Only part pack? wtf If the parts come with something extra like a new stage or something it would be ok but only parts? this really reminds me of sims 2

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Worldbreaker276 — GMT

[quote=Flame707]I Googled it just now and the only thing that pops up looks like a troll thread on GameSpot. Someone claims a Gamestop manager told him "Spore: Cute and Ugly" is coming out in November. That's one month. If that doesn't tell you it's a lie right there, then I don't know what else to say.[/quote]

I know its probably a troll thread, and I shouldn't have all capped the title. Emotion doesn't transfer well over the itnernet, even with

Photons — GMT

part packs arn't necessarily a bad thing. Think of how many more creations people could form just with a couple of simple pieces! I'd rather have them fix other issues with the game before they start adding more content though..

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Korlath — GMT

i think we're forgetting something here. why is it that amazon and gamestop and everyone else took down the links related to the pack?

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Flame707 — GMT

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Korlath — GMT

[quote=Flame707][quote=Flame707]Or maybe they removed the parts packs from the other four sites because EA/Maxis is actually making a real one now.

(Don't tell me it's wishful thinking. I know what it is.)
[/quote]

Some people aren't forgetting.[/quote]

o.o i dont get it. but im glad we're not forgetting ;D

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Poetry — GMT

[quote=Photons]part packs arn't necessarily a bad thing. [/quote]

At 20$ a pop 2 months .. well heck I can stop at
20$ A POP!!!???

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theultimateend — GMT

Part packs should always be 5 dollars + the cost of packaging.

Why?

They'd sell them to EVERYONE and it would piss off so few people.

As opposed to 20 dollars where more people will pirate than download.

Seriously, they'd make far more at 5+packaging than at 20.

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Bluhman — GMT

Darnit, I want content, not parts. New unit types, attacks, abilities, and galactic classes are worth 20$. Not eyes. And jaws.

The EP's should focus around that, not new parts! It's precisely that that I'm going to be paying for.

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4ferrets — GMT

I'M not convinced it's true,

Why isn't there a updated post by MAXIS or EA,
"here on this website about the exp,"

I would think it would show up here, before some of the others.
Or is it posted somewhere here by MAXIS or EA and i just missed it??
Somethings not right here.

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RocketGirl — GMT

[quote=Jackuul]http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/05/27/

Aptly prophetic, from 2005.[/quote]

Let's not forget this: http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20080627

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PlasteredDragon — GMT

[quote=Korlath]i think we're forgetting something here. why is it that amazon and gamestop and everyone else took down the links related to the pack? [/quote]

[quote=4ferrets]I'M not convinced it's true[/quote]

Oh come ON. This is Amazon, EB Games, GameStop we are talking about... not the local rumor mill. They don't create product pages because there is a *rumour* that the product might exist. They create the page because EA gives them advanced notice of upcoming products.

I understand there is some desperately wishful thinking going on here by people who are banking on Spore becoming a good game through expansions, but don't let that blind you to what is a pretty depressing piece of news.

The fact that they have taken the pages down means that EA is changing something. Maybe they've decided to delay the release of the product, maybe they've decided to change the name based on the early response aptly noting that Spore is essentially Creature Creator 2.0.

Some EA exec, staring at the harsh reviews pouring into this site for the last couple weeks and going pale, probably got in a room with marketing and said "we call this 'cute' and describe it as if it is a collection of parts and we're going to get reamed... come up with a new name, and let's delay it to be a little closer to Christmas--pick up more sales being made by unsavvy parents instead of savvy kids."

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jadebullet — GMT

I don't know. I don't mind parts packs. I'd of course prefer free parts, but there are just some things that don't fit in a certain expansion. I have all of the Sims2 EPs and Item packs, with the exception of Ikea stuff because I hate Ikea.

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nitwhit — GMT

[quote=jadebullet] I have all of the Sims2 EPs and Item packs, with the exception of Ikea stuff because I hate Ikea.[/quote]

*gasp* How can you hate Ikea??? I could live in that place if given the opportunity, but then again being a female college student, space saving efficiency and decorating are two of my favorite things.

Anyway back on topic... I just can't warrant spending $20 just for some extra parts, I've managed with the ones in the creator just fine and I seriously doubt that they are going to give us much of anything that we couldn't pull off with the parts we have already. And of all the expansions "Cute and Creepy" why? Why not robot parts, they've talked about it in the past and it's actually more difficult to make robotic looking beings with the current set of parts but "Cute and creepy" parts? Haven't we as a community already proven that we can pull off cute and creepy quite easily by now? I mean we've pulled off robots, inanimate objects, video game characters, extremely cute, extremely creepy, and realistic. We don't need any new parts.

I'm just hoping that I wake up tomorrow to find out that this is all just an elaborate prank or some extreme case of trolling but I know I won't.

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jadebullet — GMT

Lets just say that I have had a bad experience, and an interesting scar, from an Ikea furniture thing.

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RaptorZefier — GMT

[quote=nitwhit][quote=jadebullet] I have all of the Sims2 EPs and Item packs, with the exception of Ikea stuff because I hate Ikea.[/quote]

*gasp* How can you hate Ikea??? I could live in that place if given the opportunity, but then again being a female college student, space saving efficiency and decorating are two of my favorite things.

Anyway back on topic... I just can't warrant spending $20 just for some extra parts, I've managed with the ones in the creator just fine and I seriously doubt that they are going to give us much of anything that we couldn't pull off with the parts we have already. And of all the expansions "Cute and Creepy" why? Why not robot parts, they've talked about it in the past and it's actually more difficult to make robotic looking beings with the current set of parts but "Cute and creepy" parts? Haven't we as a community already proven that we can pull off cute and creepy quite easily by now? I mean we've pulled off robots, inanimate objects, video game characters, extremely cute, extremely creepy, and realistic. We don't need any new parts.

I'm just hoping that I wake up tomorrow to find out that this is all just an elaborate prank or some extreme case of trolling but I know I won't. [/quote]

It's definately trolling, it would be idiotic for the first expansion -not- to release the Flora Editor/Underwater stage.

Even though, I'd perfer they work out the current bugs in the game above anything else. Or, heck, improve the gameplay some. =( I want creatures in the creature phase to roam around, the museum setup sucks.

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theultimateend — GMT

[quote=RaptorZefier][quote=nitwhit][quote=jadebullet] I have all of the Sims2 EPs and Item packs, with the exception of Ikea stuff because I hate Ikea.[/quote]

*gasp* How can you hate Ikea??? I could live in that place if given the opportunity, but then again being a female college student, space saving efficiency and decorating are two of my favorite things.

Anyway back on topic... I just can't warrant spending $20 just for some extra parts, I've managed with the ones in the creator just fine and I seriously doubt that they are going to give us much of anything that we couldn't pull off with the parts we have already. And of all the expansions "Cute and Creepy" why? Why not robot parts, they've talked about it in the past and it's actually more difficult to make robotic looking beings with the current set of parts but "Cute and creepy" parts? Haven't we as a community already proven that we can pull off cute and creepy quite easily by now? I mean we've pulled off robots, inanimate objects, video game characters, extremely cute, extremely creepy, and realistic. We don't need any new parts.

I'm just hoping that I wake up tomorrow to find out that this is all just an elaborate prank or some extreme case of trolling but I know I won't. [/quote]

It's definately trolling, it would be idiotic for the first expansion -not- to release the Flora Editor/Underwater stage.

Even though, I'd perfer they work out the current bugs in the game above anything else. Or, heck, improve the gameplay some. =( I want creatures in the creature phase to roam around, the museum setup sucks. [/quote]

You do realize the parts pack is still google cached on all the main game retailer websites right?

Unless you are saying this guy trolled by hacking?

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AngelusNox — GMT

[quote=StevenMC]isn't the original Spore already cute and ugly? They need an EP titled "Spore, the way it was meant to be"[/quote]

i lold

[quote=Flame707]Every time you post one of those links, a kitten dies.[/quote]

i lold to death

no really. this spore pack expansion stuff is a sign of apokalypse to me.
if there will be no patch (sry working/good patch) before this expansion will be released, many players will think twice about buying a ea or maxis game in the future, and this is what i am going to do from now ...

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nitwhit — GMT

[quote=RaptorZefier]

It's definately trolling, it would be idiotic for the first expansion -not- to release the Flora Editor/Underwater stage.

Even though, I'd perfer they work out the current bugs in the game above anything else. Or, heck, improve the gameplay some. =( I want creatures in the creature phase to roam around, the museum setup sucks. [/quote]

Well I think we've seen EA do some pretty idiotic things so far with this game. They released a clearly unfinished game, use piracy protection that did more to turn away honest consumers than foil any pirating attempts, released a buggy patch for an already buggy game, originally had it so you had to buy a copy of the game per user in order to play with different accounts, banned people for seemingly no reason and without any warning for "offensive" creatures, failed to notify us about the changes being made to the site for the longest time, etc... I could go on for pages if given the chance but I'll stop since I think I've made my point in that EA really isn't bright when it comes to these things and they need some serious help getting back in touch with their consumer base.

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theultimateend — GMT

[quote=nitwhit][quote=RaptorZefier]

It's definately trolling, it would be idiotic for the first expansion -not- to release the Flora Editor/Underwater stage.

Even though, I'd perfer they work out the current bugs in the game above anything else. Or, heck, improve the gameplay some. =( I want creatures in the creature phase to roam around, the museum setup sucks. [/quote]

Well I think we've seen EA do some pretty idiotic things so far with this game. They released a clearly unfinished game, use piracy protection that did more to turn away honest consumers than foil any pirating attempts, released a buggy patch for an already buggy game, originally had it so you had to buy a copy of the game per user in order to play with different accounts, banned people for seemingly no reason and without any warning for "offensive" creatures, failed to notify us about the changes being made to the site for the longest time, etc... I could go on for pages if given the chance but I'll stop since I think I've made my point in that EA really isn't bright when it comes to these things and they need some serious help getting back in touch with their consumer base.[/quote]

Hell they were abusing their employees till someone finally made it public.

Then they 'magically' saw the light.

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TormakSaber — GMT

Saw a picture of a receipt from gamestop showing a reserve copy bought of "Spore:Cute and Creepy" on GameFAQS, but it could eaisly have been a shoop, pixels, etc.

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Ruyoayo — GMT

I'd consider it if it doubled my parts, but I'm happy with what I got now, as far as parts are concerned...

However with a name like Cute and Ugly or whatever it is, I seriously doubt it'll add twice as many parts.

It's a Maxis game, did you seriously think there wouldn't be a bunch of expansions and part packs? Look at how incomplete The Sims 2 feels without any expansions, however you add half a dozen expansions and it's quite an experience. Hell, the first 4 or 5 expansions had advertisements for the next expansion inside their cases.

I am rather amazed that they announced their parts pack before an expansion... and this early.

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DrLazy — GMT

[quote=Jackuul]http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/05/27/

Aptly prophetic, from 2005.[/quote]

So true.

Sadly there are people stupid enough to buy this stuff.

Does EA have no shame? They could have at least waited to next year to release an EP. And at least pretend they haven't spent the last three years working on expansion packs.

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Poetry — GMT

[quote=jadebullet]I don't know. I don't mind parts packs. I'd of course prefer free parts, but there are just some things that don't fit in a certain expansion. I have all of the Sims2 EPs and Item packs, with the exception of Ikea stuff because I hate Ikea.[/quote]

Not being demeaning (though this might sound it).
Spore has a smarter audience. People re move savvy about purchases. The economy is very different.

The smarter audience means that there are a lot of folks who are not only in college but are graduates of same that were interested in spore. The attempt to dummy it down was obviously a bid to try and get the easy money and more gullible audience. The ones that just ask maw n paw to buy them a new XboX cart, or the new PC title whatever it is to keep that two month attention span busy. The other is a almost Unique Sims audience, the homemaker, who can ask the hubby or has enough expense money to simply plunk down cash.

Those last two are the target audience nowadays. The result of appealing to a smarter or older audience means they get folks with more savvy in purchases. They know how to balance games vs cost of living allowances (aka COLA spending). Games are a near investment to the original intended Spore audience. You make a good title, you just earned the loyalty of someone who will stick with you through a handful of expansions in the least and not even drop you after one bad expansion. Expansions that are large and come 13-14 months apart at the least.

Savvy is greater now. Even amongst the target audiences. There are a number of 10-20$ quick games available from yahoo, pogo (EA owned) and others that get the homemaker audience. They know what they like and they know how it feels to be suckered into expansions. After doing the multi-year math on how much was spent on the Sim brand in total they feel sheepish. Combine that with the science aspect of spore even with the extreme dummying down. On top of that the audience will be shrinking. The economy is getting to a two income necessary one again.

The other target audience, the younger folks with their parents liquidity, are a -lot- smarter now regarding purchases of games and titles. They use torrent as a test drive, just par for the course. Something that does not produce in the first run is gone gone gone. They read articles and know their parents will only shell out a very finite amount. If they choose poorly they not only get a title that is the suck, but they get left out of their social groups some by not having a title to share playing with their buds.

All of this ties into the current economy. Things are tight. No one is going to toss money after an expansion now. People are looking for companies who try to milk them and avoid them. Everyone is positively penny pinching now. You can buy a software product or eat better than ramen for two weeks. Hrmmmm. When they choose the software product and it is something like the current Spore release, look out. You just hit on the thing that makes any American and pretty much any citizen of the world peeved. You're cutting into their food and living expenses. One of the three basic drives of our animal nature. This has resulted in some of the most profound legal actions, created almost every civil and many other other wars in world history.

EA is doing the equivalent of Let Them Eat Expansions, and the mobs are looking to pull down the SecuRom Bastille they were placed in. The chopping block is ready and the federal government is looking to appease the masses more than the money in token ways. Online gaming? Ripe to be made an example. It's something many parents gripe about, it has technology 'someplace in there' for the older executives in federal positions, and they are making money.

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=Poetry]... [/quote]
Thats a sad, sad truth.
edit: Not saying your cynical. Just happens to be the truth. And it saddens me.

All joking aside. How appealing this expansion pack may look like it shows what kind of a brand we unwillingly signed up for. Unwillingly...very pliable term. Dont hold me on that one. I can still leave, I am aware of that.

What EA is asking us:
Forget how the game should have been.
Forget that the patch breaks your game (mine just broke down completly, its FUBAR)
Forget that we promised meaningfull gameplay.
Forget that a sensible and smart publisher wouldn't allow an expansion pack being released so fast after we essentially duped you guys. (yea how you twist and turn it, they duped us)

All we are asking you now, our dear customers, is to offer us your wrists.
No worry we will only make a small cut. But forget about the bandage, we will need to cut you again in 8 weeks.

What bothers me more, is that theire target consumer base does not have the means to purchase all of these expansions. I can already hear the countless reqeusts for overpriced presents. I geuss I should start saving up for my God children.
Or maybe I am wrong about the target audience.

*snip* irrelevant

But this is getting silly. I admit being a bit Spored up today cause the game crashed completly.
I like Spore, but its really becoming a bigger pain then a game should.
Let me rephrase that. I'm genuinly Peed of. (trying to avoid filters)

ps: Silly qeustion: Isn't it possible that the hits we get for the expansion were place holders?

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ZJBDragon — GMT

2 months and 15 days after the release of Spore is when they want to release this parts pack. 2 months and 15 days. That's got to set a record and perfectly makes the case as to why this content should have been in the retail game. I've never seen a company get this greedy. Turn on the news and you'll hear about golden parachutes. This parts pack is nothing more than a golden expansion.
[quote=PlasteredDragon]The fact that they have taken the pages down means that EA is changing something. Maybe they've decided to delay the release of the product, maybe they've decided to change the name based on the early response aptly noting that Spore is essentially Creature Creator 2.0.[/quote]
No, it doesn't mean that at all. It just means these companies loaded the parts pack into their inventory tracking systems and have created temporary placeholder sale pages (normally these are generated automatically). These pages are now hidden from view but not necessarily no longer existing. On the website I manage it's easy to hide something from view to make it look like it was taken down. It's equally as easy to un-hide it. This sort of behavior tends to happen with most game releases until they're officially announced.

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Schlippo — GMT

I couldn't even bring myself to play last night, cos the Cute n' Creepy Parts Pack is just too bitter a pill to swallow. I was hoping they'd find a way to fill out the gameplay of what is a pretty shallow game, but it looks like Spore is all it's gonna be with just a bunch of lame parts tacked on top.

R.I.P. Spore
You were a good idea mangled by idiots.

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Parvati — GMT

Right, i got a quick of topic qeustion.

Would it be completly naieve of us to ask for a community feedback day?
Like every 2nd friday of the month or something.
In my opinion this community could use it.
Hell, I could use it. The last bit of faith I had in this product is completly gone.
I'm feeling the illegal community gaining momentum.....

Bad idea?

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PlasteredDragon — GMT

[quote=ZJBDragon]No, it doesn't mean that at all...[/quote]

Point taken, but the persons I was responding to were suggesting that the fact the pages were either taken down or hidden means that maybe the "parts pack" [i]isn't real[/i]. That's a lot more outlandish than "maybe EA is changing something about the release of the parts pack." The scenario you describe is even more likely.

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Flame707 — GMT

Likely or not. The only thing that can be conclusively proven until someone from EA comments here or elsewhere is that the parts pack existed or exists as a possibility.

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MatticusUK — GMT

looks pretty likely to me..

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PlasteredDragon — GMT

[quote=Parvati]...The last bit of faith I had in this product is completly gone.
I'm feeling the illegal community gaining momentum.....

Bad idea?[/quote]

I've come to think of you as the "champion of Spore" on these boards. We've not necessarily agreed, but I feel your disappointment, and have been feeling the same way for a long time now... which is why I have been complaining so much. And admittedly I've been frustrated by people continuing to pin hope on the "potential" of Spore.

That said, I don't condone piracy. Besides if the game is *bad* why would you want to pirate it anyway? You'll hurt EA as much just by not buying it, and so we should just pick up and move on... there will be other games.

Case in point--on the Orange Box set containing Half Life 2, Half Life 2: Episode 1, and Half Life 2: Episode 2, there was this little "gamelet" called Portal--just a silly idea with a very cool twist that combined both action gaming (in a manner of speaking) and puzzle-solving strategy. It was just a test release to see if gamers would like it. It was very short but hella fun. It was such a rave success that the publishers are now working on a full fledged game called Portal 2. There's a lot to be excited about... it doesn't have to all be pinned on Spore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_(video_game)

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=PlasteredDragon][quote=Parvati]...The last bit of faith I had in this product is completly gone.
I'm feeling the illegal community gaining momentum.....

Bad idea?[/quote]

I've come to think of you as the "champion of Spore" on these boards.
[/quote]

Thank you, no we havent always agreed.
But I am not beaten yet.
Do realise i know its bad to pirate. Still not agreeing with it perse. But ...I'm very mixed up.
Just wanted some kind of feedback from the devs.
Inform us instead of this milk money sceme

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Schlippo — GMT

After reading this thread, do you really think the devs are such gluttons for punishment that they'd come in here and confirm Spore's official Mr. Potato Head status?

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Guineh — GMT

Actually a part pack makes perfect sense as an expansion. Whether I'd buy such an expansion, eh .. depends on whether there's anything worthwhile for me in it.

What I'm actually unsure of at the moment is whether the plant editor will be an expansion or a patch. From what I've seen of the one that's "hidden" in the main executable, its there, but definitely not ready for primetime. This seems to be to be possible patch material, but I don't know.

Other expansion pack possibilities will probably be things like more tools, different rares, more outfitting stuff, things like that. I don't really think they'll add a water stage or anything like that, but who knows.

If you remember the main thrust of Spore is creativity.

What I wonder, though, is what happens if someone creates something with an expansion. My guess is it won't be included in your game if [i]you[/i] don't own the expansion. Good marketing.

"Ooh, this guy looks cool!" so you drop him into your editor, and Bang! sorry, but this has parts that aren't available to you. Check www.spore.com or your local retailer for the "Blah blah" expansion pack and get more cool creations!

Eventually, those who haven't bought the packs will see their galaxy pollination dry up due to the people who have the expansion doing most of the creating. So, the late adopters may want to buy the expansion eventually, to just to keep the content flowing. It makes good sense to me.

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MatticusUK — GMT

[quote=PlasteredDragon]It was such a rave success that the publishers are now working on a full fledged game called Portal 2. There's a lot to be excited about... it doesn't have to all be pinned on Spore.[/quote]
I hope Portal 2 doesn't get too massivly over-hyped. A large part of Portal's success was low expectations and the fact that it was, like you say, a "gamelet".
Plus, there's more charisma in the first 30 seconds of portal than i've seen in most other recent games.

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=Schlippo]After reading this thread, do you really think the devs are such gluttons for punishment that they'd come in here and confirm Spore's official Mr. Potato Head status? [/quote]

Not really.
I'm a cynical optimist till the end thoug.

Just having a bad day i geuss.
I do like Spore. Agh, I never followed a game so closely. Was a hobby really.
Maybe its better to think that this expansion is just a bad dream and that its no use to get all worked up until i have solid proof infront of my eyes in the stores. bah.

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Ytram — GMT

The fact that NONE of the cached/non-cached pages claiming to sell this parts pack had any box cover art makes me think one of the following:

[list]It's not real and somehow got propagated to several sites[/list]
[list]It's real but not ready for release.[/list]

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PlasteredDragon — GMT

[quote=MatticusUK][quote=PlasteredDragon]It was such a rave success that the publishers are now working on a full fledged game called Portal 2. There's a lot to be excited about... it doesn't have to all be pinned on Spore.[/quote]
I hope Portal 2 doesn't get too massivly over-hyped. A large part of Portal's success was low expectations and the fact that it was, like you say, a "gamelet".
Plus, there's more charisma in the first 30 seconds of portal than i've seen in most other recent games.
[/quote]

Heck I go back and play the end over and over again just to listen to GlaDOS rave... man was that ever frikkin funny. Whole lot of personality in that game... short but LOTS of depth (i.e. a lot of WHAT MATTERS).

[i]GlaDOS: I have your brain scanned and permanently backed up in case something terrible happens to you, which it's just about to. Don't believe me? Here, I'll put you on...

Backup: Hellooooo?

GlaDOS: That's you! That's how dumb you sound! You've been wrong about every single thing you've ever done, including this thing. You're not smart. You're not a scientist. You're not a doctor. You're not even a full-time employee. Where did your life go so wrong?[/i]

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lonelydogs — GMT

[quote=PlasteredDragon][quote=MatticusUK][quote=PlasteredDragon]It was such a rave success that the publishers are now working on a full fledged game called Portal 2. There's a lot to be excited about... it doesn't have to all be pinned on Spore.[/quote]
I hope Portal 2 doesn't get too massivly over-hyped. A large part of Portal's success was low expectations and the fact that it was, like you say, a "gamelet".
Plus, there's more charisma in the first 30 seconds of portal than i've seen in most other recent games.
[/quote]

Heck I go back and play the end over and over again just to listen to GlaDOS rave... man was that ever frikkin funny. Whole lot of personality in that game... short but LOTS of depth (i.e. a lot of WHAT MATTERS).

[i]GlaDOS: I have your brain scanned and permanently backed up in case something terrible happens to you, which it's just about to. Don't believe me? Here, I'll put you on...

Backup: Hellooooo?

GlaDOS: That's you! That's how dumb you sound! You've been wrong about every single thing you've ever done, including this thing. You're not smart. You're not a scientist. You're not a doctor. You're not even a full-time employee. Where did your life go so wrong?[/i]
[/quote]

haha i love that "boss battle" in portal .And yes Portal is rather deep especially all the hidden stuff and easter eggs

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Worldbreaker276 — GMT

Never actually played that game

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ZJBDragon — GMT

[quote=Ytram]The fact that NONE of the cached/non-cached pages claiming to sell this parts pack had any box cover art makes me think one of the following:

[list]It's not real and somehow got propagated to several sites[/list]
[list]It's real but not ready for release.[/list][/quote]
It's kind of hard to have box cover art when all you have is a SKU for an unannounced product. Even the biggest gaming retailers don't have final box art for some products until it goes "gold". Gamestop, in particular, likes to guess at box art or make up their own temporary box art sometimes until the real thing is released. The absence or presence of box art is not necessarily an indicator or the authenticity of the product.

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Ccurving — GMT

[quote]Cee Sss Rrrr is spore'd? When did a customer service representative become a bad word?[/quote]

When EA put the axe to all of theirs

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thecapitaine — GMT

My prime experience with EA/Maxis is the Sims and I'm guessing Spore's expansion/stuff packs will be done similarly to those games. If so, this parts pack could be a 'stuff' pack that doesn't really change the way the game is played. Of course, as has been asked, how does that work with a game where content is shared between users? Doesn't quite make sense to me and seems to be more headache than its worth to implement. So, I'm not drinking the kool-aide on this one. I think the rumor will be proven false. With most of the forums clamoring for more depth at each stage, more complex gameplay, and a more robust sandbox to play in, anything but a true expansion that builds on Spore's gameplay isn't likely to do well in the stores. I anticipate, at the very least, the comeback of the underwater stage and more options in space, including the ability to get out of one's spaceship. Here's hoping.

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LadyEternity — GMT

Well I for one have no problems at all with them releasing a parts pack. Infact, I welcome it. Although it would have to have some real nice additions for me to fork over 20 bucks for. Hehe. If they are enabling the flora and cell editors in the expansion...to allow sharing of cells and flora..plus the addition of more parts...then yeah that'd be worth it.

Oh hehe, now I am all excited about it. I can't wait till the official notification. I hope it comes soon.

Lady Eternity and Family
Spore Fanatics

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Poetry — GMT

[quote=Guineh]Actually a part pack makes perfect sense as an expansion. Whether I'd buy such an expansion, eh .. depends on whether there's anything worthwhile for me in it.
[/quote]

Not sure if you saw how it went with the demo vs prime time in the CC. It would pop up with an obnoxious message after you loaded in the creature but tried to view it.
'You do not have the expansion to view this creation, please go to the EA store and purchase the expansion to view.'

Meaning you'll have a cluttered sporepedia with unusable content. It is bugged all to heck with content everyone -can- use. Do you think they would blink twice if a content pack made Spore the old unplayable? Why not, there are folks who have not played since the patch. Some not even gotten EA responses from channels, or classic 'check your drivers' canned responses.

I try to be optimistic. I try to see the potential. I'm trying, I am.
I'm also starting to see a pattern that will have me out with some spray paint on the spore billboard in a month. Local tech news has already done a DRM/SecuRom demo showing it shutting down a DVD drive. Another where it said on first try on a laptop, it used up installations. Then the mentioned the lawsuit and stock drop. Man talk about a public ouch.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Parvati — GMT

[quote=Poetry]
I try to be optimistic. I try to see the potential. I'm trying, I am.
I'm also starting to see a pattern that will have me out with some spray paint on the spore billboard in a month.

[/quote]

Thats the place where I am right now.
God, Spore is messing me up. So much for caring about a game right.

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=Parvati][quote=Poetry]
I try to be optimistic. I try to see the potential. I'm trying, I am.
I'm also starting to see a pattern that will have me out with some spray paint on the spore billboard in a month.

[/quote]

Thats the place where I am right now.
God, Spore is messing me up. So much for caring about a game right. [/quote]

Someone is hunting you and one starring you in every thread. How funny. Is it EA? Is it Fanboi's? Is it Mr. Owl? Nobody knows. How many licks does it take to get to the center of the galaxy anyways?

On the front for searching new mentions of the Expansion Phat - nothing so far.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Worldbreaker276 — GMT

Lets hope its just a theory or placeholder......

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Pugnap00 — GMT

whatever, im all for expansion packs and content packs. Bring on the content!

seriously, it is how it is. You guys know how EA operates. Part packs and expqansions will come. Id rather have it then nothing.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

PlasteredDragon — GMT

[quote=thecapitaine]I think the rumor will be proven false.[/quote]

Say it with me: game sellers don't take pre-orders for rumors.

K?

You can hope the expansion will be different, or you can accept what we know about it right now: (a) it exists or is close to release (b) it's name is "cute and creepy parts pack". Given (b) the implication is that it is a parts pack.

Concluding a product exists because the same product appears on five different reputable retail sites is not "drinking kool-aide". Trying to talk yourself into concluding that maybe it doesn't exist in the face of such evidence *is* drinking kool-aid. The evidence is solid.

The question now is, are the Spore champions for great potential (as opposed to great game play), happy with the notion of a $20 pack of more-of-the-same. The answer appears to be mixed, implying that this particular expansion erodes support for Spore unless the "parts pack" also includes something significant, like gameplay enhancements or at least new and different Mr. Potato Head stuff like maybe a flora editor.

We'll have to wait and see how EA/Maxis chooses to spin the product. If they pulled it to add some sort of game play feature to throw us a bone, that might make people more receptive. Or they could delay it slightly to be timed with another expansion that they had originally chosen to sell separately and offer a discount if they are bought together, this second expansion providing gameplay enhancements. There are a number of things they could do to make this EP seem like less of a turd.

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Poetry — GMT

[quote=Pugnap00]whatever, im all for expansion packs and content packs. Bring on the content!

seriously, it is how it is. You guys know how EA operates. Part packs and expqansions will come. Id rather have it then nothing.[/quote]

As the saying goes.
There is one born every minute.

I wish I had a more bloodthirsty heart and could find more people this gullible.
I'd be quite wealthy. Though my soul might be in jeopardy

Because that is how they try to operate that way now does not make it right.
If you are willing to lie down and take it feel free to do so. Just do not endeavor to end
our right to speak our mind and attempt to express our disgust and grief.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Pugnap00 — GMT

im getting sick of everyone misunderstanding me. Im not on a mission to "endeavor to end
our right to speak our mind and attempt to express our disgust and grief."

i was just stating that i dont mind expansions. Please dont ever insult me again by insinuating im some sort of push over. thanks.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Aecursus — GMT

[quote=Pugnap00]i was just stating that i dont mind expansions. Please dont ever insult me again by insinuating im some sort of push over. thanks.[/quote]

There's a difference between real expansion and what EA considers to be an expansion. Expansion packs tend to add a [b]significant[/b] amount of new content...EA xpacks basically adds minor features plus odds & ends. It's pathetic that they half-assed this game and left things out just so there would be expansion pack "content".

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Pugnap00 — GMT

i know that. its irritating indeed. all im saying is im looking forward to expansions and such. Thats all im saying.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

dparrot — GMT

So wait, I can not play the game I paid $60.00 for (with the creature editor...that came w/o a coupon) due to a patch that breaks the game. (and it's going on 3 weeks since I was able to play it. )

Now they want me to shell out another $20.00 to get more parts so I can see what my friends make, but they won't either get a patch roll back nor a new patch out the door? No way in hades!

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

nitwhit — GMT

[quote=dparrot]So wait, I can not play the game I paid $60.00 for (with the creature editor...that came w/o a coupon) due to a patch that breaks the game. (and it's going on 3 weeks since I was able to play it. )

Now they want me to shell out another $20.00 to get more parts so I can see what my friends make, but they won't either get a patch roll back nor a new patch out the door? No way in hades! [/quote]

Exactly, they should make sure that their game is functional before even bothering releasing expansion packs. But then again now that I think about it since Spore is still so buggy they might not be able to release many gameplay enhancements without risking more bugs. Thus causing them to delay gameplay related expansions until they have patched it enough times to where the bugs are minimal and thus making "part packs" the only thing they really can release right now. But still this is EA who pushed the game out way before it was ready so they might not care if they did push a heavily bugged gameplay enhancement expansion on us, then again I can't get inside this company's head since I haven't comprehended much of anything they've done so far with Spore so I don't know.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

thecapitaine — GMT

Perhaps I should have been clearer, Plastered Dragon. What I question is not that EA/Maxis has plans to release an add-on for Spore. That part's obvious. However, the when of it and the what of it is what I'm questioning. Game sellers don't take pre-orders on rumors, true. But the date, title, and content of it are apt to change and those who are fond of pre-ordering things the moment the Gamestop allows them to will find quite often that things like release dates and details about what's actually going to be in the game do fluctuate wildly. I can pre-order the Sims 3 today but there's nothing to stop the release date from being pushed back a coupla months. Might Spore's next big thing be a parts pack? Sure. But I'll wait to get my info from the companies that make and publish the game rather than the stores that sell them. Particularly when their websites are accepting pre-orders for games that come out in February but are next to mum about any Spore expansion that's supposed to hit the shelves nary two months from now. I don't think that's an unreasonable position to take whatsoever.

Nevertheless, I still maintain that it would be foolhardy for the next release to simply be a parts pack for a game where parts only matter in two (arguably three) stages of the game while the core gameplay elements in the stage one spends the most time in lie fallow. So, no, I am still not drinking from the 'It's Only a Part Pack' keg. I will gladly sip and sup once a proper announcement is made, if it turns out to be just that. I will also designate that twenty dollars I would have used for something more worthwhile as well, heh.

Hope that helps define my stance a bit better.

OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Bones1138 — GMT

And may I remind you that RUMORS are the main cause of Spore failing in certain cases?

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

theultimateend — GMT

[quote=Pugnap00]i know that. its irritating indeed. all im saying is im looking forward to expansions and such. Thats all im saying.[/quote]

I think most people are trying to point out that your attitude is what EA was banking on in the first place.

If they weren't, that would be my point .

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Parvati — GMT

[quote=Jackuul]

Someone is hunting you and one starring you in every thread. How funny. Is it EA? Is it Fanboi's? Is it Mr. Owl? Nobody knows. How many licks does it take to get to the center of the galaxy anyways?
[/quote]

I don't really care, I just hope its not one of the people here i concider friendly.
That [i]would[/i] mess me up
No way of knowing right.

And of course people will buy the expansion.
How idle a dream it is of us to assume that we could make a difference.

Well news flash people. WE CAN.
Howcome that people have seem to have forgotten about consumer power?
You want EA to start caring about its product. Make a stand and hit them where they feel it.
In their wallets FCOL.

Spam the boards with valid complaints.
Adress the problems.
Hell, if I had enough backing and if I wasnt in such a small forsaken runt of a country I would be the first to barge down their doors. Honestly, we can change the world. You just have to put your back into it.

Dont get me wrong. I like Spore. I want to like it. But i want to Love it.
Like I loved the game they promised to build.
Untill i started digging up the expansion idea I really thougt Will would straighten out this entire mess.
Just some community feedback. Thats all I am asking.

Will i buy this shallow cosmetic expansion?
Not tooo sure about that at this point.

(LOL this post immediatly got 1starred, hows that even possible )

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Schlippo — GMT

[quote=LadyEternity]

Well I for one have no problems at all with them releasing a parts pack. Infact, I welcome it. Although it would have to have some real nice additions for me to fork over 20 bucks for. Hehe. If they are enabling the flora and cell editors in the expansion...to allow sharing of cells and flora..plus the addition of more parts...then yeah that'd be worth it.

Oh hehe, now I am all excited about it. I can't wait till the official notification. I hope it comes soon.

Lady Eternity and Family
[b]CREATURE CREATOR[/b] Fanatics[/quote]

Fixed.

A parts pack isn't an expansion for Spore, it's more toys for the creature editor. The whole point of expansions is to expand the gameplay. Having more hands or feet in the editors doesn't change this game one bit.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

jabberwock — GMT

[quote=Parvati][quote=jabberwock]nope he's not and on xspore look at the thread titled "game update" in the sporedom section
[/quote]

Not to be mean, but the veterans should remember that Xspore has always been a site to lure people with controversy. They fake stories.

Best to ignore this.
There is no proof.[/quote]

yeah umm Im the one who made the tthread on xspore, in response to the gamespot thread so.....

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=Parvati]

(LOL this post immediatly got 1starred, hows that even possible )[/quote]

Someone must not like you. Fixing.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Parvati — GMT

[quote=jabberwock][quote=Parvati][quote=jabberwock]nope he's not and on xspore look at the thread titled "game update" in the sporedom section
[/quote]

Not to be mean, but the veterans should remember that Xspore has always been a site to lure people with controversy. They fake stories.

Best to ignore this.
There is no proof.[/quote]

yeah umm Im the one who made the tthread on xspore, in response to the gamespot thread so.....[/quote]

I was not accusing you of hoaxing.
I just wanted to remind people that Xspore has fabricated hoaxes in the past.
Noone can say thats not true.
Ask ANY veteran. They will all say that Xspore are fakers. Sorry mate, didnt mean you personally.
You dont own that forum do you

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

Parvati — GMT

[quote=Jackuul][quote=Parvati]

(LOL this post immediatly got 1starred, hows that even possible )[/quote]

Someone must not like you. Fixing. [/quote]

Yea, its because I always make such troll posts I think

/sarcasm

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

jabberwock — GMT

[quote=Flame707]Ok, so there's a thread on Gamefaqs by the exact same user.
That's all I can find. I got nothing by running a search on X-Spore's forums.
If there was something there, I wouldn't be surprised if it was, again, the same person.

The way his posts are written even indicates trolling to me.

Quote: "I thought the guy was just trying to trick me" and then he hits you with the real controversial stuff, ZOMG, "until he offered to have it on reserve!" That exclamation just screams "HAI, I'M A TROLL."[/quote]

he has a photo of the recite on gamespot, and xspore search is not working, on the sporedom dourm on xspore look for the thread titled "game update" the tc is jabberwock xeno (me)

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=Bones1138]And may I remind you that RUMORS are the main cause of Spore failing in certain cases?[/quote]

Lets agree to disagree.
There is nothing 'rumor' like about the 2005, 2006 and TED video's.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

jabberwock — GMT

[quote=Korlath][quote=Flame707]Alright, now I'm disturbed.

http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:dz7ZIlB2AL4J:www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx%3Fproduct_id%3D72792+Spore+Cute+and+Creepy+Parts+Pack&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us
[/quote]

yup that's the cached site right?[/quote]

and it says the publisher and devolper is EA, thogh I whouldent put it past them to take credit

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jabberwock — GMT

I want a part pack

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Jackuul — GMT

I want to pay 19 dollars for every extra part!

So give me one at a time and ram my rear with your bleeding wallet policies EA! I enjoy being your target of passive aggressive monetary rape!

Not.

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MrRogersHasAGun — GMT

[quote=earthbounder64]I do hope they don't go and do like with the Sims 2 and do all kinds of idiotic "stuff packs" on top of expansion packs that include things that should have already been in the game.

1-2 expansions is enough.
Anything more should be free downloads...[/quote] [i]Everything[/i] should be a free download. Like what Valve does.

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=MrRogersHasAGun][quote=earthbounder64]I do hope they don't go and do like with the Sims 2 and do all kinds of idiotic "stuff packs" on top of expansion packs that include things that should have already been in the game.

1-2 expansions is enough.
Anything more should be free downloads...[/quote] [i]Everything[/i] should be a free download. Like what Valve does.[/quote]

Here here.

Edit: Or is it hear hear? That one is the most confusing thing...

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=Jackuul]Passive aggressive monetary rape![/quote]

Beautiful, thats just beautiful.
Really man, that was a nice arrangement of words

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shawn-m — GMT

Rude + Crappy Parts Pack?

Although the parts pack doesn't sound like what I was hoping for --yes, I'd like to see game-play mechanics expanded, too-- I might buy it if it includes things that I'd wished for from the outset, like honest tentacles and fur. Actually the pack [i]sounds[/i] like an effort to give players the ability to second-guess the developers' cute vs. creepy in-house compromise.

On the other hand, if it's nothing more than cute eyelashes and creepy pimples... well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Re:OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

theultimateend — GMT

[quote=Jackuul][quote=MrRogersHasAGun][quote=earthbounder64]I do hope they don't go and do like with the Sims 2 and do all kinds of idiotic "stuff packs" on top of expansion packs that include things that should have already been in the game.

1-2 expansions is enough.
Anything more should be free downloads...[/quote] [i]Everything[/i] should be a free download. Like what Valve does.[/quote]

Here here.

Edit: Or is it hear hear? That one is the most confusing thing...[/quote]

It's hear hear.

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Jackuul — GMT

The Cute Team didn't take something ugly and make it cute.

They took a hammer and nail set with wood blocks and created play dough - with eyes.

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theultimateend — GMT

[quote=Jackuul]The Cute Team didn't take something ugly and make it cute.

They took a hammer and nail set with wood blocks and created play dough - with eyes. [/quote]

Basically yes .

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Jackuul — GMT

Anyone remember Erector Sets, Capsule, and Old-Style Legos? Like, 1990's toys where you could BUILD THINGS THAT WORKED?

Now, that's what Spore looked like it would be to me, functional and procedural characters, all of that nice stuff, where how you built what you built created something that worked based on its design. Not its stat points. Will Wright described it as such, as a toy that taught.

They took that, tossed it while keeping just the most rudimentary parts (it seems and likely is) and then plopped on Play dough. Come on.

Erector Set = Building things that work based on how you built them, complexity wasn't hard and the end result was fun.

Spore = You has blobz. Putz teh parts on teh blobz. Yay. Blobz cans runs fasts - wis jus a leg and a prayer from Spode.

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ElementLeaf — GMT

The part about all of this is the fact that this "parts pack" could've easily been created by the community, if we had been given any way to attempt it. I can make 3-D models in an afternoon!

Electronic Arts is much like a cruel horse racer. Beating the horse until it nearly collapses, throwing it out and buying a new one. Just look at The Sims 2.

Nonetheless, there is just a handful of people to blame. EA is not some large machine of evil. It has hundreds of "regular" programmers and employees. There's just a handful of people that know how to make games suck.

*cough* Marketing *cough*

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theultimateend — GMT

[quote=ElementLeaf]The part about all of this is the fact that this "parts pack" could've easily been created by the community, if we had been given any way to attempt it. I can make 3-D models in an afternoon!

Electronic Arts is much like a cruel horse racer. Beating the horse until it nearly collapses, throwing it out and buying a new one. Just look at The Sims 2.

Nonetheless, there is just a handful of people to blame. EA is not some large machine of evil. It has hundreds of "regular" programmers and employees. There's just a handful of people that know how to make games suck.

*cough* Marketing *cough*[/quote]

I would like to remind people that Sims 2 did FAR worse than Sims 1 in sales.

It was still a best seller, but it didn't really come close to its parent. It's reasonable to say much of the initial sales for Sims 2 was people expecting something far above Sims 1. Much like all the people who bought SPORE. With the minimal improvements and the game only really taking shape 5 expansions later.

I can foresee that Sims 3 will be even worse in sales. Especially after this .

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Korlath — GMT

[quote=theultimateend][quote=ElementLeaf]The part about all of this is the fact that this "parts pack" could've easily been created by the community, if we had been given any way to attempt it. I can make 3-D models in an afternoon!

Electronic Arts is much like a cruel horse racer. Beating the horse until it nearly collapses, throwing it out and buying a new one. Just look at The Sims 2.

Nonetheless, there is just a handful of people to blame. EA is not some large machine of evil. It has hundreds of "regular" programmers and employees. There's just a handful of people that know how to make games suck.

*cough* Marketing *cough*[/quote]

I would like to remind people that Sims 2 did FAR worse than Sims 1 in sales.

It was still a best seller, but it didn't really come close to its parent. It's reasonable to say much of the initial sales for Sims 2 was people expecting something far above Sims 1. Much like all the people who bought SPORE. With the minimal improvements and the game only really taking shape 5 expansions later.

I can foresee that Sims 3 will be even worse in sales. Especially after this .[/quote]

Yea, you're right. I bought Sims 1 and Sims 2, SOME expansion packs, im afraid to say...but i wont be getting Sims 3 =D.

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Jackuul — GMT

EA is the Grox?

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Flame707 — GMT

[quote=Jackuul]EA is the Grox?[/quote]

Could be, seeing as all their games have to be terraformed past T0 when they come out.

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Jackuul — GMT

T -2

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MaxisCactus — GMT

We can't release info on this subject just yet, but we'll be announcing plans for future Spore products soon.

-MaxisCactus

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Korlath — GMT

bump

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ZJBDragon — GMT

[quote=MaxisCactus]We can't release info on this subject just yet, but we'll be announcing plans for future Spore products soon.

-MaxisCactus[/quote]
I think you missed the point of this thread. We don't want your future Spore products until you fix the current Spore product. You've clearly got all this content sitting around behind the scenes that you weren't interested in putting into the final retail copy but are more than happy to nickle and dime every customer you have a mere 2 months and 15 days after the release of the retail product. Didn't you see the President a few days ago? People are getting kicked out of their homes, repossessions are rampant, credit is drying up, banks are collapsing, trillions of dollars are being lost, income is not keeping pace with inflation, gas prices are still astronomical, unemployment is increasing, and job cuts are expanding. In the wake of financial turmoil your company wants to turn around and charge people double the cost of the creature creator for a couple extra parts that should have been in the retail game. 2 months and 15 days is absolutely unprecedented.

We expect that you'll improve the current game and then deliver some free content like the rest of the video game industry does (Bring Down the Sky, Bonus Packs, Act 4, landmarks, modding support, etc.). You seem to want to run Spore into the ground with what will likely become a long chain of expensive "booster" packs priced the same as a regular full blown expansion or episode for other games. In such a highly competitive market, we, your customers, are sounding the alarm now to give you guidance as to how to avoid a catastrophe of burning bridges with your fans. If you do this parts pack thing you're going to anger a lot of people and you might just earn the tag of most pirated franchise, not just individual product, ever created.

I've said good things and bad things about Spore. I've had fun and I've been frustrated. A parts pack at 2 months and 15 days will turn the majority of your fans and customers away. [b]2 months and 15 days.[/b] 2 months and 15 days...this stuff belongs in the retail game. Patch it in or release it as a bonus pack. The objective media and reviewers out there already are mostly ripping into Spore. A parts pack will only make things worse.

Call a meeting with your boss and the people making plans for these packs. You people need to change plans. If you don't think so, then just start hunting around for what people are saying about Spore. Some games get a lot of negative feedback, but Spore is in a whole new category.

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Korlath — GMT

[quote=ZJBDragon][quote=MaxisCactus]We can't release info on this subject just yet, but we'll be announcing plans for future Spore products soon.

-MaxisCactus[/quote]
I think you missed the point of this thread. We don't want your future Spore products until you fix the current Spore product. You've clearly got all this content sitting around behind the scenes that you weren't interested in putting into the final retail copy but are more than happy to nickle and dime every customer you have a mere 2 months and 15 days after the release of the retail product. Didn't you see the President a few days ago? People are getting kicked out of their homes, repossessions are rampant, credit is drying up, banks are collapsing, trillions of dollars are being lost, income is not keeping pace with inflation, gas prices are still astronomical, unemployment is increasing, and job cuts are expanding. In the wake of financial turmoil your company wants to turn around and charge people double the cost of the creature creator for a couple extra parts that should have been in the retail game. 2 months and 15 days is absolutely unprecedented.

We expect that you'll improve the current game and then deliver some free content like the rest of the video game industry does (Bring Down the Sky, Bonus Packs, Act 4, landmarks, modding support, etc.). You seem to want to run Spore into the ground with what will likely become a long chain of expensive "booster" packs priced the same as a regular full blown expansion or episode for other games. In such a highly competitive market, we, your customers, are sounding the alarm now to give you guidance as to how to avoid a catastrophe of burning bridges with your fans. If you do this parts pack thing you're going to anger a lot of people and you might just earn the tag of most pirated franchise, not just individual product, ever created.

I've said good things and bad things about Spore. I've had fun and I've been frustrated. A parts pack at 2 months and 15 days will turn the majority of your fans and customers away. [b]2 months and 15 days.[/b] 2 months and 15 days...this stuff belongs in the retail game. Patch it in or release it as a bonus pack. The objective media and reviewers out there already are mostly ripping into Spore. A parts pack will only make things worse.

Call a meeting with your boss and the people making plans for these packs. You people need to change plans. If you don't think so, then just start hunting around for what people are saying about Spore. Some games get a lot of negative feedback, but Spore is in a whole new category.[/quote]

thumbs up.

Drish — GMT

The Cute and Creepy Parts pack has been reported on Gamespot.com:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6198530.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;6
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Retail Radar: Spore spawns add-on

Cute & Creepy Parts Pack briefly appears in GameStop's online database, priced at $19.99 and due by November 18.

The Sims is big business for EA. Big enough, in fact, that it warranted its own label when CEO John Riccitiello reorganized the publisher's corporate structure last year. Aside from new games such as the upcoming Sims 3, the division is bolstered by regular releases of full expansion packs and add-on content.

As has been expected, EA will be applying a similar monetization model to Will Wright's latest best-selling title, Spore. Today, GameStop listed--and quickly pulled--the first of these add-on packs for the universe-in-a-box simulation, Spore Cute & Creepy Parts Pack for the PC. A $19.99 price tag was attached to the add-on pack, and GameStop pegged its street date as November 18.

GameStop's listing revealed no other information on the Cute & Creepy Parts Pack, and EA had not responded to requests for comment as of press time. However, the Parts Pack will likely integrate into the game's lauded Creature Creator component, which gives gamers an open template for designing custom life-forms and vehicles.

For more on Spore, check out GameSpot's full review.

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Im nauseous. I think I'm going to puke. Will Wright and Maxis truly have SOLD OUT.... SOLD OUT SOLD OUT SOLD OUT SOLD OUT..... hope you enjoyed giving up your professional integrity for the money.

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Bernoully — GMT

Let's just see what else is included in that expansion, no one's forcing anyone to buy it, right? Meanwhile, they still have about a month to bring the next big [i]free[/i] patch, to quell the anger around.

That's what happens when they don't interact with the customers~

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ZJBDragon — GMT

[quote=3rdType]I have bought or play the following.

Mercenaries 2
Mass Effect
Rock Band
The Sims 1 and 2 + All stuff & expansions
Tiger Woods PGA Tour Series
Battlefield: BC[/quote]
Just out of curiosity...do you have a job, a car/SUV/truck/aircraft, college/school work, hobbies outside of gaming, eat out much, own a home/trailer/mansion, have a rich family, or have a significant other? This is probably coming across as rude, but it's not my intention. Back in the SNES days I easily had 50 or 60 games. Ever since then it's been decreasing steadily up to this generation where I have none of the new consoles although I do have a new comp with half a dozen games on it, only 2 in which are recent. If I had grown up around The Sims and such I might have had more of that game's content instead of thinking the first game was shallow and not buying any following sequel or expansion. These days the release of some expansion packs and DLC so soon after a full retail release is absolutely mind boggling to me and turns me away from gaming (which is why I don't have any of the new consoles). I literally avoided everything to do with The Sims because of expansion fatigue and excessive milking. It makes me downright angry to feel like content was purposely held from the full release to create paid content. It may be acceptable for some people, but as a gamer that played Duke Nukem 3D and Super Mario World on their respective release dates, it's absolutely infuriating to see what's been made acceptable in today's video game industry (particularly what EA thinks it can get away with). The very idea of announcing expansions or DLC anywhere under 3 months from the retail game and releasing anywhere under 6 months from the retail release is something I absolutely don't tolerate. This is probably why more of my cash that I used to spend on gaming goes towards AVgas these days. Moves like this parts pack reek rip-off to me.

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theultimateend — GMT

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Neruu — GMT

hmm wonder if cute and creepy would include some new crazy mouth designs or maybe.. more clothing choices...

Parvati — GMT

[quote=Poetry]*snip*...... [/quote]

Yeap, its very possible that they quickly pulled the plug to avoid a PR disaster.
But I think that whent very wrong very quickly.

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ausdreamer — GMT

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ZJBDragon — GMT

[quote=Akasha-Ravenstar][quote=ausdreamer]They have done this with most of the Sims 2 stuff/expansion packs. One day they appear on a site - then disappear. They usually resurface later. I am not sure why they do that - to get people excited about it and/or the sites put up the info earlier then they should have?
I am not sure as it seems to happen an awful lot what the point in doing this is - but anyway they turn out to be true packs in the end [/quote]
Perhaps also coding the page ahead of time then taking it down when satisfied? *shrugs*[/quote]
Coding? What Coding? Typing stuff into a WYSIWYG editor is not coding. I must be the only one here that has any sort of serious retail management experience.
[quote=ZJBDragon][. . .]
For Gamestop, Amazon, and multiple other companies to load this Spore parts pack at relatively the same time with similar information is not simply coincidence or an accident. They don't sit there and copy off of each other either. They're not simply guessing that this pack is coming out. They have a million other things that need more attention than loading phantom products. If they were guessing or if this were a hoax we would have seen this sort of adding phantom products much more often. [u]It is usually the case that products like this Spore parts pack get added to the system, momentarily appear public depending on what settings a person used, and then disappear from public view to reside on the corporate intranet until such time that the product is announced.[/u] If you had access to a department or store manager's STS (generic term for a system that tracks inventory) login information you'd find a wealth of information in which the public doesn't know about. Things like upcoming sales, product status changes, supplier deliveries and shortfalls, as well as products in which the public doesn't know about.
[. . .][/quote]

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JPFrostfox — GMT

Well, at least we won't have to worry about something like this...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhp1ElO4MiA&feature=related[/youtube]

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NecroBones — GMT

[quote=Poetry]
No one is disagreeing, just not jumping to conclusions. I myself think that even the concept
of a 20$ pack so soon after release is despicable. That then goes up by a factor when you
take into account the game in it's current state.
[/quote]

I see a lot of people saying this, so I'd like some clarification. Is it despicable because you feel the content should have been included in the main game, with delaying the release two months to get it in?

I suppose I can't argue with that. And if it were a full-blown expansion with features that were pulled from the game, I'd agree. There was a lot in the previous demos and information released that isn't in the game. Tribal phase is simplistic, Creature phase lacks a lot of the dynamic and procedural details we were, promised, etc. I fully expect expansions to flesh out the gameplay sometime later.

But a parts pack (with just parts) will likely have allowed them to leverage resources more efficiently, by allocating artistic resources while the primary game was in final testing and debugging (and likely in a feature freeze). I see this as efficiency, and nothing more.

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Ricotez — GMT

I'm not gonna buy an only-parts pack. At least, not soon. There are plenty of parts as-is.
However, I would like an actual expansion, for example one that adds underwater creature, tribal and civ phases.

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Poetry — GMT

[quote=ZJBDragon]
Coding? What Coding? Typing stuff into a WYSIWYG editor is not coding. I must be the only one here that has any sort of serious retail management experience.[/quote]

You might be correct, I think you are prolly very much correct.
We appreciate your instructing us. So please chill, try not be so adversarial.
We want to know, help us to learn the basics so we can pass that on.

It's less doubting you, than we are clueless.
I know [b]I[/b] am quite clueless regarding most of what you have mentioned regarding online retail.
You might want to even macro some of the basics you mention until it sinks in. (not sarcasm)

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Skirlasvoud — GMT

With the insane hurry they put behind both the flawed release of spore and spreading rumors of creating this expansion pack, (because let's face it, these shops don't put up titles for the hell of it.) you'd almost think they had the EP planned before they even released spore, or at the very least, just days after.
If this thing really is going to hit the stores in november, or if they at least had serious plans to do so as those sites make us belief, than they must already putting the pack together before they even knew how people were going to react to the game itself.

EA and Maxis aren't stumbling from one mistake to another, no, they had this entire series planned from the onset and only now are they realizing that this construct will hit the gaming community like a train wreck against a brick wall.

Before Will Wright even had the concept of Spore on his mind and uttered its possibility, EA was allready prowling the company's hallways searching for something to fill its coffers in the last quarter of 2008. This product had to be developed in X amount of time with the minimum amount of fuss and additional add ons would needed to be released throughout Y amount of months. Spore was unlucky enough to be chosen and the reason why it turned out like it did, was because it didn't fit the moneymold. Creating a good game at that time, simply was too much of an effort intensive endeavor.
Games used to be developed with the hope of making money, Like SquareSoft creating Final Fantasy one without even thinking it would do very well. Now games are made to make money, but EA takes it to a whole new level, where money is made with the hope of creating a good game.

It's the kind of blind foresight and absolute merciless marketing strategy that makes me shiver. Do they really think we'll just sit still and react like good little sheep to what hypes and predictions their PR has been allowed to throw up on us in the weeks up to Spore's launch when they still could get away with promising a great game?
Yes they do and frankly, it worked. Congratulations, you had me.

I personally feel we've been deepthroated by an ogre of a company. Forcefully, hard, with abandon and with almost offensively little dedication.

I sincerely hope that there will come a time when large gaming companies will simely be shunned. Come to think of it, the only reason why I was enthousiastic about spore, was because it had a Maxis brand stamp on the cover. Now however, I regard even that company as fruit of a poisenous tree. Some titles I will still buy for their time proven qualities like C&C and Red Alert (Even though the series had far more class and style when West wood was still around.) but I will be seriously aprehensive about anything else EA or any of its croonies will ever produce.

As it stands now, I will not buy any Spore expansion pack.

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Visko — GMT

I own Rock Band, and I actually like it despite how much bonus content costs. But it is fun to just play, and I don't need every song to enjoy it. That's probably the last game published by EA that I'll ever buy.

I'm completely abandoning the Battlefield series now. It's going downhill anyways. 1942 was the greatest. Spore can obviously kiss my ass. Deadspace looked cool, but EA put their name on it so I'm avoiding that too.

... hurray for boycotting! Well, I don't think it'll make a very big difference at all. But at least I know this way I'm protecting myself from big piles of SPORE.

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shinu1729 — GMT

[quote=Visko]I own Rock Band, and I actually like it despite how much bonus content costs. But it is fun to just play, and I don't need every song to enjoy it. That's probably the last game published by EA that I'll ever buy.

I'm completely abandoning the Battlefield series now. It's going downhill anyways. 1942 was the greatest. Spore can obviously kiss my ass. Deadspace looked cool, but EA put their name on it so I'm avoiding that too.

... hurray for boycotting! Well, I don't think it'll make a very big difference at all. But at least I know this way I'm protecting myself from big piles of SPORE.[/quote]

I'm glad they decided to make the portal song "Still Alive" free on rock band. That made my year.

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JohnnyPie — GMT

I would say this is no longer a rumor:

[url]http://eastore.ea.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=ea&Locale=en_US&Env=BASE&productID=108090800[/url]

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sawsage — GMT

In my opinion Maxis should only make 2 expansions to spore

1. Underwater expansion: includes underwater stage as shown in the spore gameplay video, ability to create underwater citys and has more parts (not restricted to underwater parts)

2.Flora expansion: includes flora editor and more parts (again not restricted to flora like parts)

These should be around the same price as the creature creator.

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cor4101 — GMT

I can't belive the amount of shock about this expansion. Everyone should have known this is what we were going to see. I say hurray, bring it on, this is what I want from spore, more parts, more color for my creations and more fun. 20 bucks for this is the same as 20 bucks for the stuff packs in Sims 2, also it is optional, you don't like it dont' buy it. Quit complaining and moaning about how horrible the game is. If you don't like the game or the business then post your farewell and go. I've bought plenty of games over the years that sucked, guess what I did, moved on. I certainly don't go hang around the forums and make sure every thread has at least 20 ounces of hate in it.

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walnutthewise — GMT

[quote=Skirlasvoud]With the insane hurry they put behind both the flawed release of spore and spreading rumors of creating this expansion pack, (because let's face it, these shops don't put up titles for the hell of it.) you'd almost think they had the EP planned before they even released spore, or at the very least, just days after.
If this thing really is going to hit the stores in november, or if they at least had serious plans to do so as those sites make us belief, than they must already putting the pack together before they even knew how people were going to react to the game itself.

EA and Maxis aren't stumbling from one mistake to another, no, they had this entire series planned from the onset and only now are they realizing that this construct will hit the gaming community like a train wreck against a brick wall.

Before Will Wright even had the concept of Spore on his mind and uttered its possibility, EA was allready prowling the company's hallways searching for something to fill its coffers in the last quarter of 2008. This product had to be developed in X amount of time with the minimum amount of fuss and additional add ons would needed to be released throughout Y amount of months. Spore was unlucky enough to be chosen and the reason why it turned out like it did, was because it didn't fit the moneymold. Creating a good game at that time, simply was too much of an effort intensive endeavor.
Games used to be developed with the hope of making money, Like SquareSoft creating Final Fantasy one without even thinking it would do very well. Now games are made to make money, but EA takes it to a whole new level, where money is made with the hope of creating a good game.

It's the kind of blind foresight and absolute merciless marketing strategy that makes me shiver. Do they really think we'll just sit still and react like good little sheep to what hypes and predictions their PR has been allowed to throw up on us in the weeks up to Spore's launch when they still could get away with promising a great game?
Yes they do and frankly, it worked. Congratulations, you had me.

I personally feel we've been deepthroated by an ogre of a company. Forcefully, hard, with abandon and with almost offensively little dedication.

I sincerely hope that there will come a time when large gaming companies will simely be shunned. Come to think of it, the only reason why I was enthousiastic about spore, was because it had a Maxis brand stamp on the cover. Now however, I regard even that company as fruit of a poisenous tree. Some titles I will still buy for their time proven qualities like C&C and Red Alert (Even though the series had far more class and style when West wood was still around.) but I will be seriously aprehensive about anything else EA or any of its croonies will ever produce.

As it stands now, I will not buy any Spore expansion pack.[/quote]

Video games is a business. While you may disagree with some of their methods, they still have to make money. EA obviously has found a pretty successful model so far. Also, the answer is Yes, they did think about the parts pack and probably most of the expansions before the game is released. Even though SPORE was in development for forever, expansions and parts packs still take some development time, so they need to plan way ahead.

The bottom line here is people: if you do not want the parts, do not buy it! For example, I own all Sims 2 expansions, but only one of the parts pack (that I received as a gift). I will not bring myself to spend $20 bucks for a parts pack that adds no gameplay functionality. Perhaps one day when all the parts packs are bundled, I'll get it.

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Crypton — GMT

$20 is a bit high for a part pack tbh, really should be cheaper considering it is just parts, sure we don't have to get it, but regardless, the normal version of the game (non-GE) is around $49, so can anyone justify $20 for parts 0o, almost half the cost of the game..

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Worldbreaker276 — GMT

The scariest thing about this is that even after all the spore players saying that we don't want a parts pack, there making it anyway...

And if you need proof, theres a pre-order link on the actual EA website.

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NoxBestia — GMT

This is a great big [size=24]F-YOU[/size] to those of us still suffering major crashing problems with the game!!!

I have suffered 37 space stage crashes in the two weeks after my first e-mail to support which went unanswered. My second one contained a zip of all 74 files associated with these 37 crashes. So far all I have back is a request to resend my DxDiag results, which I have done.

If Spore wasn't the most addictive game I have ever played, I would simply delete it and be done with it forever. As far as I am concerned, Until EA fixes the problems with Spore, anyone who doesn't pirate or boycott it and any other expansions they release is an idiot.

John Duane Rice

{edited for typos}

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SoupLLJK — GMT

I don't have a problem with them planning out expansion details beforehand. I only have a problem with what they sell not being what the customers expected or wanted.

If the parts pack doesn't do well, it's because it's not what people wanted. Which could actually turn into a positive if they changed direction because of it. I'd much rather see small gameplay packs that add several features or more complexity for $20.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. If it sells well, then that's because it's what people wanted to buy - which is a good thing for both the customer and the company.

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NoxBestia — GMT

[quote]If you don't like it, don't buy it. If it sells well, then that's because it's what people wanted to buy - which is a good thing for both the customer and the company.[/quote]

Okay, you have a SPORE good point there. Lets see how sales are.

By the by... **IF** I could play spore regularly without it crashing, I'd gladly shell out the $20 for the parts pack.

For anyone who hasn't read the whole press release, they did announce a second expansion for this spring that sounds like it does add more content. And I quote:

[quote]Gamers will experience deeper Space stage gameplay with an expansion pack scheduled for release in spring 2009. For the first time, players’ space faring creatures will be able to beam down from their spaceships to explore new planets and earn rewards for completing challenging missions. A new Adventure Creator will allow players to build and share online their own custom missions, providing almost endless gameplay possibilities. [/quote]

Of course if they don't have the game somewhat stable by then, I wont be buying that either and it [i]really[/i] sounds interesting.

John Duane Rice

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Hawkian — GMT

I assume they will have the game increasingly more stable over the next few months, since I haven't had any stability problems from the start and I figure I belong to the majority, so they're working on the bugs that are being reported by folks like you.

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NoxBestia — GMT

Here's hoping you are correct. Cheers.

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RedLightning777 — GMT

[quote=Skirlasvoud]Before Will Wright even had the concept of Spore on his mind and uttered its possibility, EA was allready prowling the company's hallways searching for something to fill its coffers in the last quarter of 2008. This product had to be developed in X amount of time with the minimum amount of fuss and additional add ons would needed to be released throughout Y amount of months. Spore was unlucky enough to be chosen and the reason why it turned out like it did, was because it didn't fit the moneymold. Creating a good game at that time, simply was too much of an effort intensive endeavor.
Games used to be developed with the hope of making money, Like SquareSoft creating Final Fantasy one without even thinking it would do very well. Now games are made to make money, [b]but EA takes it to a whole new level, where money is made with the hope of creating a good game[/b]. .[/quote]

You said it right there. Right on the money.

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Viltord — GMT

Look:
[img]http://myspore.hu/e107_images/edesesremes.JPG[/img]

[img]http://myspore.hu/e107_images/custom/edesesremesmini.jpg[/img]

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Viltord — GMT

This is not fake, it's true. We will see it. Maybe in this pack will be the Flora Creator too. In the next year will coming the first big pack: in Space Stage you can teleport your creature down, not only the hologram. And you can make own missions in a Mission Creator.
And maybe later will under water pack which is between the Cell Stage and Creature Stage.
I just help. If you don't believe for me, wait and see the news. But don't attack me, thanks.

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Worldbreaker276 — GMT

[quote=Viltord]This is not fake, it's true. We will see it. Maybe in this pack will be the Flora Creator too. In the next year will coming the first big pack: in Space Stage you can teleport your creature down, not only the hologram. And you can make own missions in a Mission Creator.
And maybe later will under water pack which is between the Cell Stage and Creature Stage.
I just help. If you don't believe for me, wait and see the news. But don't attack me, thanks.[/quote]

Realize that this thread is really old, when there was no hard evidence that there was going to be a parts pack. Also, if they have the flora editor in the parts pack, thats another low blow, bating people to buy somthing like that so they can get more money. And if a mission creator and beeming down from your spaceship is a full expansion pack, than Maxis' quality is slipping, even the sims 2 EPs had more, and by normal standards, they were nothing compared to most other games Expansion packs in terms of content.'

Also, EA is notourious for milking players for their money like no other company, the sims 2 had 9 expansions, each 30 dollars and sparse on content.

PS: Sporemasters, please don't close this, it was here before that other thread on cute and creepy, and I belive it also has more posts.

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Surinade — GMT

Well, it's confirmed by Spore (EA) themself. So my question to you all; Do you have to buy this?
Yes;
• Do I have to buy Spore again, so it will conclude that pack?
• Do I have to buy this from the website or something?

No;
• Can I download this free or what?

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NoxBestia — GMT

[quote=Surinade]Well, it's confirmed by Spore (EA) themself. So my question to you all; Do you have to buy this?
Yes;
• Do I have to buy Spore again, so it will conclude that pack?
• Do I have to buy this from the website or something?

No;
• Can I download this free or what?[/quote]

You can buy it from the website or from retailers (when it is released).
It is currently preorder only.
It is about $20
You do not have to re-purchase Spore if you already own it.
They say this pack will work with the retail version of the Creature Creator.

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Eversicle — GMT

You all know that companys need money right? right? right!? no but someone said something about the soms packs they sucked but do we even know how much is gonna be in this? seriously

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ZaidZilla — GMT

[quote=Flame707]I Googled it just now and the only thing that pops up looks like a troll thread on GameSpot. Someone claims a Gamestop manager told him "Spore: Cute and Ugly" is coming out in November. That's one month. If that doesn't tell you it's a lie right there, then I don't know what else to say.[/quote]

Lol this has been bothering for a while now.......its cute and creepy. oh and also ive been to a game stop store and one of the clerks told me it came out November 18. I didnt belive him, so i went online and searched cute and creepy spore. i got results and it said....Release date: November/18/08.

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NoxBestia — GMT

[quote=Eversicle]You all know that companys need money right? right? right!? no but someone said something about the soms packs they sucked but do we even know how much is gonna be in this? seriously[/quote]

Since my "about $20" wasn't accurate enough the EA Store lists it at $19.95.

Hopefully this link works for anyone interested:
[url]http://eastore.ea.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=ea&Locale=en_US&ThemeID=718200&Env=BASE&productID=108090800[/url]

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Viltord — GMT

We can see it on Main page, so that is offical.

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TheElite711 — GMT

For some reason this expansion doesnt bother me at all personally. Besides, new parts means more creativity and that is usually always a + in games, but thats my take on it. Also this expansion pack will go down in price with time anyways, so if you dont want to shell out $20 for it, just wait till the price drops to...$10? LOL

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Gregory1 — GMT

[quote=Worldbreaker276] I've been hearing rumors that the first SPORE EP is to be called: Cute and Nasty (or Cute and Ugly). That title implies a part pack ...if thats what Maxis calls an EP for SPORE...

...

...

than there is truly no hope for SPORE.[/quote]
Cute and Creepy, and yes it is a part pack... so what? YOu don't have to buy it, but I think it will be cool

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Blazinjackal — GMT

http://eastore.ea.com/store/ea/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.108090800
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Click on link above for proof that this isn't a rumor ppl.

24 new animations, 48 new parts, 60 new paint options.

Personally I'd just get it to create awesome devlish hell creatures from beyond the abyss of torture and horror mwahahahahahahahaahahh *cough cough cough coughing fit* but seriously I don't understand y it bothers u pplz so much seriously....

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OneBlackbird — GMT

[quote=Blazinjackal]http://eastore.ea.com/store/ea/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.108090800
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Click on link above for proof that this isn't a rumor ppl.[/quote]

[img]http://www.hookahforum.com/uploads/1165808825/gallery_2063_3_17264.jpg[/img]

We know. Check the dates on the posts next time and use the search function.

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ESPEE — GMT

Wasn't it cute and creppy? Sounds way better anyway.

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OptimusJ — GMT

[quote=Blazinjackal]http://eastore.ea.com/store/ea/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.108090800
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Click on link above for proof that this isn't a rumor ppl.

24 new animations, 48 new parts, 60 new paint options.

Personally I'd just get it to create awesome devlish hell creatures from beyond the abyss of torture and horror mwahahahahahahahaahahh *cough cough cough coughing fit* but seriously I don't understand y it bothers u pplz so much seriously....
[/quote]

Me neither. In fact I believe I will even be relieved to be able to create more accurate creatures from the new parts.
I wonder what they mean with new animations. Will it be new random movement options to the already programmed actions, or whole new actions?

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WolfMark6 — GMT

The difference between Spore and The Sims 2 Stuff Packs is that you can not easily make Spore Parts and in The Sims 2 you can easily make (or just download) clothes and stuff.

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PirateNori — GMT

I don't understand why you'd be upset.

This seems like a brilliant idea.

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YourSavior — GMT

[quote=PirateNori]I don't understand why you'd be upset.

This seems like a brilliant idea.[/quote]

People are upset because they're releasing this pack two months after the release, which people think means that they purposefully withheld content to sell to us, or that these parts are extremely easy to make and that they're grossly overcharging us for content that took less than a month to make.

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elrunethe2nd — GMT

I feel used. What was innovation shipped to be an impressive game with enourmous potential, and lots of options. Players put asside the worries that creature and cell were slightly too brief, and other things and played, but now, two months after release and a large $90 from me, a kid without a salary, this turns up.
[quote]People are upset because they're releasing this pack two months after the release, which people think means that they purposefully withheld content to sell to us, or that these parts are extremely easy to make and that they're grossly overcharging us for content that took less than a month to make.[/quote] This is definitely true. I think that what would feel like a complete list of parts with this expansion added is what Spore ought to have felt like at the beginning. I feel cheapened with what could have easily been done into a free patch that will now cost me a fair amount. I really hope Spore doesnt take the same path of the Sims with 500 expansion packs.

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Jackuul — GMT

Oh, it won't be like the Sims. Sure, you might have the IKEA stuff, maybe some Niko, and Toshiba, but have no worry. You'll probably never get in depth simulator based game-play like the Sims 2.

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elrunethe2nd — GMT

That's the worst part. Some part of me says that no matter how many packs they release to build upon the game, its main bits left lacking still will be left so.
I DO like the game, and I admire people like Will for having the guts to do this, but I feel that its getting a Simming, and would hate for that to happen.

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Camosnake — GMT

If EA and Maxis are truley listen to us, and would like to "evolve" this game into the deep exiting game that they promised us that it would be, then you can help save spore by going to the forum link on my signature below. And EA and Maxis, a special note for you, read the forum as well, and give us the game that we crave!!!!!!!!!!

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DracoKing28 — GMT

Uhhhhm.. ok?

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OneBlackbird — GMT

OH DEAR GOD NOT ANOTHER RESURRECTION OF THIS THREAD!

Do we really need to have the same thing repeated 10 times every week?

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elrunethe2nd — GMT

Yes.

Better to resurrect an old thread than make a new one, eh?

Old thread is old!

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gigasquirrel7 — GMT

Anyone noticed the EP won't even install on an XP?

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MaxSkyl — GMT

[quote=elrunethe2nd]Yes.

Better to resurrect an old thread than make a new one, eh?

Old thread is old! [/quote]
Haha nice one. Someone will need to work for EA someday , someone in the forum to solve all of EA problems.. this is forum is surely gonna affect spore's buyers i mean with all of the arguments here and there.. well lets just cross our fingers

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piePIEpie — GMT

[quote=gigasquirrel7]Anyone noticed the EP won't even install on an XP? [/quote]
i havean xp and it works patch 3 doesn't

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Kylelolcat — GMT

I have XP

C&C and patch 3 work.

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piePIEpie — GMT

[quote=Kylelolcat]I have XP

C&C and patch 3 work.[/quote]
it sais i've got it but when i go into spore it doesn't work

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Kerslam — GMT

Packs and expantions are merely ways to make money. Just like how they overpriced those fancy Spore creature paperweights. atleast I didn't have to waste money on the exoskeleton limbs, they came with a patch.

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Bastarden — GMT

Part packs for Spore is very welcome, that gives more creativity and the additional gameplay and even new parts are featured in the EP's.

It's a rumour, that's for sure. Or just a lie, not sure really. Cute & Creepy is already out, logic tells you that EA won't create another one and just switch one word...

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alexis515148 — GMT

Bastar,there talking about cute and creepy,this was made before it came out,and before they knew it was being made

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dragoffire — GMT

If your talking about cute and something its aculity called cute and creppy and its out.

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Muffinette — GMT

I love how the first few pages of this thread dismiss the parts pack as "rumors". Now we know it as an unfortunate reality. Oh well, it means more possibilities for those of us with cash (not me)! XP

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Bastarden — GMT

alexis:

Woooot?? *Checks the date*, its true, the thread was posted 10/1....

My bad, I thought they were discussing a potential SECOND parts pack with almost the same name...I blame it on my poor english...

But still, I do like the thought of part packs, the creators have to make money on what they do, games, and I'm happy to pay since it gives me more creational freedom!

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kwanzaabot — GMT

Funny how the OP actually owns the Creepy and Cute pack. http://www.spore.com/view/profile/Worldbreaker276

...which I should point out is not a bad thing, but it's just funny how people's opinions can change over time. Makes you wonder if any of those who are particularly militant about Science Spore might one day just accept the game for what it is.

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DarkPlasma — GMT

[quote=Kerslam]Just like how they overpriced those fancy Spore creature paperweights.[/quote]
Actually, they're not overpriced; it's just expensive technology, making a detailed sculpture printer & painter from a digital model. Especially a model with overlapping polygons.

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Frawst — GMT

[quote=kwanzaabot]Funny how the OP actually owns the Creepy and Cute pack. http://www.spore.com/view/profile/Worldbreaker276

...which I should point out is not a bad thing, but it's just funny how people's opinions can change over time. Makes you wonder if any of those who are particularly militant about Science Spore might one day just accept the game for what it is.[/quote]

Or maybe he just felt the need to be able to play all of the new content players made using CC:C&C... I for one refuse - this is the kind of stuff we should get for free. Expansion Packs should be reserved for improvements to game play even for $10. Shameful play for more money on EA's part.

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kwanzaabot — GMT

[quote=Frawst]Or maybe he just felt the need to be able to play all of the new content players made using CC:C&C... I for one refuse - this is the kind of stuff we should get for free. Expansion Packs should be reserved for improvements to game play even for $10. Shameful play for more money on EA's part.[/quote]

True, but we live in the real world where EA is a business looking out for themselves and their investors. They might not be the most ethical company around, but they do know how to make a buck.

I mean, we already got those exoskeleton limbs in the latest patch... which is [i]completely [/i]out of character for EA. That's about all you're gonna get.

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Virakotxa — GMT

And not even that would have come out of that contempt with their unfair practice. As drm deactivation... and so many other stuff. They need to know what is wrong. And what's very wrong you better say very loudly.

OH DEAR GOD NOT A PART PACK!

batsrcool — GMT

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OneBlackbird — GMT

How is this thread still alive?

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PlanetKing — GMT

[quote=OneBlackbird]How is this thread still alive?[/quote]
Because no one bothers to look at how the [u][b]OP was on 10/01/2008[/b] [/u]and somehow have not noticed that it has been answered

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PacoPaco — GMT

[quote=PlanetKing][quote=OneBlackbird]How is this thread still alive?[/quote]
Because no one bothers to look at how the [u][b]OP was on 10/01/2008[/b] [/u]and somehow have not noticed that it has been answered [/quote]
Still, that's no reason to stop answering the question... no wait, that is a reason to stop answering that question.

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jack59splat59 — GMT

I doubt that they'll stop at Creepy and Cute. Eventually, Spore will be available for $50 with all of the packs, just like The Sims.

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Miyalana — GMT

lol whats next, a pack where all they have added are more eyes? they need to hire better pepole for makeing spore, for moderateing the spore site, and they need to eliminate wbms.....

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austin14-15 — GMT

[quote=earthbounder64]I do hope they don't go and do like with the Sims 2 and do all kinds of idiotic "stuff packs" on top of expansion packs that include things that should have already been in the game.

1-2 expansions is enough.
Anything more should be free downloads...[/quote]i agree they already got creepy/cute and now galactic advatures.......shulda bought the first expansion tho.....(and now i am tommarow