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Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

simkill — GMT

First of all, I AM NOT RELIGIOUS. If anything I say sounds like it supports religious content, it's mearly speculation.

For those who don't know, Planet Nibiru (or Planet X, or marduk) is believed by some to be the 10nth planet in our solar system, yet not officially discovered, although there are alot of conspiracy theories regarding NASA's stance on Planet X even existing. So called 'leaked pictures' are on the internet available to those who want to look for them, but the youtube vid posted later on in this post if more credable as you will see.

Why am I talking about a planet in Spore forums? Well, the planet itself, many orbits ago (each orbit of the sun is 3,600 years on an elipticle path) is said to have collided with a planet that was previously in the solar system. The planet was mostly destroyed, but half of it was knocked out of its orbit, settled into a new orbit and became earth. The debris from the destroyed section is now the asteroid belt. Nibiru is believed to have water on it, which could explain the transfer of DNA of living creatures in ice from that planet to this one. Nibiru as you will see later does have a polar cap so this is a viable theory.

The History:

Nobody wants to read a long post, so see this youtube video for a basic history of Nibiru. Please read the rest of the post after you have viewed the vid if you don't believe the religious stuff about how the aliens created genetically modified slaves, as I don't believe the religious stuff they have talked about either but I have more about it to tell you, and it is certainly a viable theory if you are open minded.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcGBM2RzTHo[/url]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcGBM2RzTHo[/youtube]

If you look for more videos about Nibiru on youtube, you'll find alot with www.saintbirgitta.com in the description. I'd recommend disregarding anything from these people as I've watched laods of their videos, and they are just trying to instill the fear of god into people with poorly edited rubbish. They also make vids of warewolves, exorcisms etc and refuse comments and ratings on all of their vids through fear of being discredited by the more logical people of the net.

Rumour has it that the giant telescope that was built at the southpole by NASA was primarily built to search for this planet.

Nibiru, The Future: So, the orbit is once every 3,600 years in an elipticle path just like comets. When is it next due? Some say 2012, possibly December. Does it matter? Well, some people believe that the magnetic effect will change the polarity of the planet, as explained by some astrologists as 'the same as placeing two magnet together. One will flip to be attracted to the other'.

Some say the earth will stop spinning for a day, giving a full 24 hours of daytime for some, 24 hours darkness for others in accordance to various religious books and beliefs (dark for india, light for USA). Others say this isn't physically possible. Also, some people say that Nibiru will cause dramatic changes in temperature due to the magnetic polar flip. The major effects of this are the icecaps melting, and hurricanes and tornados everywhere, including tsunamis and hailstones weighing over 100 pounds each, also including volcanoes and earthquakes larger than anything ever experienced before due to Nibiru attacting the Earth and attracting the liquid unter the planets surface, causes the plates to shift, collide and cause these events. This 'Apocolyptic' weather may last for 50 years leaving no or virtually no life alive. Others say there will be horrendously bad weather, but if the orbit is only 3,600 years, then it happened before, not killing everything (ancient egypt existed at the time).

What I will say about ancient egypt and other cultures around at that time, is that they all believe in some sort of race or gods coming and teaching them various things such as civilisation and astronomy. Those who know about the pyramids of giza will know they are alligned perfectly with 3 stars in the sky. At least when they were built. When will they be alligned again? One source says 'Within the next few years' knowing noting about Nibiru and the 2012 prophesy. Maybe these dates are coincidental, maybe not. Maybe there really are aliens on Nibiru who had given the egyptians the exact location of where the stars are and how to align the pyramids, or maybe they built the pyramids themselves (or gave blueprints or methods of how to build them) for the line of royalty they were designed for.

Also, the pyramids are yet to be explained how they were built. The Japanese have tried to build a 1/4 scale size of the pyramids using todays technology, and failed. Maybe something will happen that will explain how they got the positioning so precise. Also, believe it or not, Ancient egypt used to be lushous green land with rivers, grass and trees. Something happened to cause a massive change of environment for the earth to turn it into the desert it is today. Also remember the story of Noahs great flood. I don't believe Noah or his boat, but the event itself could have happned and a story of a saviour made up.

Some people believe that Nibiru is inhabited by an alien race of giants called the nephalim. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim for more details of (ridiculous) religious beliefs. The aliens are said to be in the Hebrew bible, on samoan tablets (samoans being the oldest of the ancient civilisations, along with babylon), in the new american bible to name a few.

[b]Nibiru found:[/b] Youtubers/amature astronomers believe they have found the planet, although no official statement has been made by NASA. They say on their website you can ask them about anything so it's not like they don;t want to talk. I have given NASA the co-ordinates on google sky where the planet is and I still have no reply. Foy you to check yourself, there is a dead star at google sky co-ordinates 13, 16, 58, 9h 47m 59, and just like the youtube vid of google sky, you will see the red planet just to the right of the star. This is NOT mars. Google pics of mars and you will see the obvious differences if you get your red planets confused. The planet features a pole, large craters and a massive crack in its surface which is evidence that it has hit a planet before (or at least something huge), crediting the 'planet crashing into the previous planet that created earth' story.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnMbaOdUEME[/url]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnMbaOdUEME[/youtube]

Some people believe they can see it using ground telescopes, others say it won't become completly visable untill June 09 when it will appear clearly in the sothern hemisphere.

Some people believe this is all a hoax. To them, I'd say check co-ordinates above, take a screen shot, send it to NASA and await response.

Possibly linked things to the passing of Nibiru including ancient stories:

Atlantis

Noahs arc (the flooding)

Massive change of climate in egypt

The Ice ages

The earth wobbling on its axis and not able to keep a stable magnetic pole

The start of DNA, Water, Ice and life on earth

The recently changed face of Venus (discoveries have found that recently (recently in NASA terms can be up to thousands of years when talking about planets) Venus has 'Shed its skin' by some catastrophic event ripping the face off the planet that is yet to be explained. This can be researched online)

The orbits of Sedna, Pluto and Neptune being out of alignment with the rest of the orbiting planets. They were once shunted from there positions into new orbits by 'A massive object that has long since gone' according to astronomers.

The death of the dinosaurs

The cause of the tectonic plates breaking and moving apart (millions of years ago the land mass used to be one solid lump, but it has broken and is now moving. See an atlas and compare 'holes' in the edges of continets to the shape of nearby continents)

Please post what you think.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

insectwolf — GMT

hmm... i dunno what to think, it seems like an interesting theory,
but i dunno whether to be afraid of it or not, seeing how i didnt catch an evil or good aura from the videos and text, but i would say that if we WERE slaves, then thats not a good idea,

you might even want to add to that, the possibilities of UFO sightings, abduction reports, and animal carcasses.

its interesting because if its gonna be here within 3-4 years, then it should be pretty close by, definitly within the solar system by now, i would THINK, unless it moves VERY fast...
this is based on pluto having appx 248 earth years per its year, and it travels at appx 5 Km/s

Well, im no astrologist, but i would ASSUME that the planets travel RELATIVLY similar speeds... (earth is at appx 29km/s pluto at about 5) just wanna throw in my oppinion.

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ere4s3r — GMT

Wellllll

Planets can only move so fast before the fall apart (our planet speeds are well within limits)
Planets are huge, if it DOES exist within the solar system, we'd see it... (and if it does, we have technology to save us, maybe)

Basicly, i dont think it exists ^^

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

Jiman — GMT

2012 is the end of the world year.

Their are MULTIPLE accounts where 2012 is the end of the world.

2012 is when the Aztec calender suddendly stops working.

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FractalDice — GMT

hmm ... maybe there needs to be a pseudoscience forum :)

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xlapin — GMT

What, ANOTHER end of the world? Geebus...

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Kettunen — GMT

A little off topic but I often have nightmares about how a superfast object like comet or something hits the moon and knocks it towards Earth. And the moon is like slowly coming towards Earth and theres nothing we could do about it. It could happen, could it? We have no idea what flying objects out there are and we have no planetary defense to counter them. Kinda puts it all into perspective how foolish humanity really is with our "civilized economy" and not focusing the world around us.

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simkill — GMT

I've had dreams about comets colliding with earth, but I think most people do. I've also had a dream about black and white russians but I doubt russians will ever turn black and white lol.

In regard to the 'it must already be in our solar system' post, I agree, it probably is, and I have read posts and articles from other amature astronomists thet they are going to take a picture of the co-ordinates of the google earth image over a period of months to see if the object gets any bigger. Presumably they have been able to spot it from the ground, so it may well be in system already, if it's there at all.

I don't blame NASA for not telling us about it if it is going to doom us all, because if the yreleased information that an out of system object is coming to ablitorate life then the world would quite simply go to pot. Everyone would go mad and spend all their money while they could, crime would go through the roof, local authorities would be unable to control th populous and governments would be attacked and collapse, leading to the end of civilisation as we know it. Better to live civilised for 4 years with electricity than have the constant threat of being murdered and lack of basic amienities such as running water, supermarkets, electricity or whatnot.

Also, having the technology to stop it -- To be honest, we dont. If we blew it up, its jus going to turn a massive planet into a billion smaller rocks which would be more likely to do damage by being pulled towards the closest gravitational pull, which would probably be us.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

Ashmo — GMT

What the SPORE is wrong with you people?

The Mayan calendar does NOT stop working. 2012 is just the end of the first epoch. This isn't any more disastrous than, say, moving from year 999 to year 1,000 or from year 9,999 to year 10,000.

There is a tenth planet. It's just not called a planet because the definition of planet has changed in the past years (Pluto isn't a planet anymore, if I remember correctly). The planet was dubbed "Eris" because of the strife it created in the astronomic community (i.e. a debate about the definition of planet, resulting in said changes).

Look at this if you want to know more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Neptunian_objects#Notable_trans-Neptunian_objects

[quote="Wikipedia on Eris"]Because Eris is larger than Pluto, its discoverers and NASA called it the Solar system’s tenth planet. This, along with the prospect of other similarly sized objects being discovered in the future, motivated the International Astronomical Union (IAU) to define the term "planet" for the first time. Under a new definition approved on August 24, 2006, Eris is a "dwarf planet" along with Pluto, Ceres, and Makemake.[/quote]

This entire conspiracy stuff about NASA not acknowledging amateur observations is bullshit. There is no reason for them to "hide" a discovery like that. Even if they'd not want amateurs to be credited for such discoveries, it's more likely they'd just take the credit and still release the information.

So what does this mean for humanity? Keep the SPORE on living and stop believing in pseudo-scientific bullshit spread by religious nutjobs and new agers.

EDIT: By the way: As for the comet that was supposed to eliminate us in the 2010s, further studies showed that it won't come close enough to annihilate mankind before the 2020s. Even then it's probably nowhere close enough to cause any trouble -- and if so, don't worry: we're already planning experiments to find weak spots in asteroids and how to blow them out of course.

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simkill — GMT

As you may have noticed if you have read my topic properly, is that what i'm talking about is not Eris (aka sedna). The orbit of this planet is 48 degrees off kilter with the rest of the planets orbit paths, as in it is not a 'flat' orbit (bar neptune/pluto as one of the two is 12 degrees off too). The orbit of this planet is also not elypticle, and the size of the planet is also too small to do any harm if it got close enough, which it undoubtabley won't.

Eris (aka Sedna) is only slightly larger than pluto, making it the largest thing in the kuiper belt. Also, Nibiru is though to be a 'Comet planet' as in it has an elypticle orbit, has poles and also has a tail. I don't know the physics of a comit planet having a tail, but the tail part sounds unlikely, even though if you do mid tone highlights in photoshop of the planet on google sky, it has a red aura to the top left hand corner which can only be described as looking as irregular in shape as a flame. I'm not saying it is a flame or a tail, but it's there all the same.

Please read my previous post about why NASA wouldn't want to say anything about a comet planet.

Also about the mayan calander, I agree that it dosn't just end. Its just as far as they bothered to calculate before it resets to day 1 (the end of the winter equinox). I think one of the other posts may have gotton mixed up between aztec and mayan.

EDIT: The comet that you say was calculated to hit, then calculated to miss earth is not a comet, it's an asteroid named 99942 Apophis (previously 2004 MN4). Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis for more details. And it was supposed to hit in 2030's not 2010's

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ZJBDragon — GMT

This is extremely fascinating information. I have always held the belief that there's more out there than what science tells us there is. Science is based on observation and repetition, yet it is used to explain things that we've never observed and may never observe. We know so little although we think we know so much. Something like over 3/4th's of this planet is still completely unexplored even. Furthermore, taking a hundred people and having them pass a phrase from one person to another always results in loss of the original message or some sort of corruption making historical information from the past such as this stuff much more enticing since you have to reconstruct the original message.

I've always had a fascination with dragons and similar creatures for some reason. I've known about the impossible coincidences in history between completely isolated cultures for years sharing the same or similar tales of their past. This expands upon it in a way I find completely plausible.

Unfortunately, to explain things further would require writing a book. Since a regular book is boring, I've been working on something more entertaining for years.

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NordicWolf — GMT

Uh huh... So we have a planet that was uncovered by an economist creatively interpreting ancient Sumeran texts, which BTW he translated incorrectly.
Everybody knows that the planet between Mars and Jupiter was destroyed by the flying spagetti monster because the Thetans who lived there displeased him.

Of course there are big stuff out there that might one day destroy the earth, but I think human stupidity and superstition will kill us off long before that.

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WvMiskavW — GMT

Simkill,

Very interesting that you'd post on this topic. I've been researching this matter (among other related topics) for quite a long time. The bottom line; we'll never be told the truth on this or any other related subject. I often encourage others to 'do their homework' and research such issues because really . . . it's up to us to find the truth.

That being said, here is a very informative video on the subject:

Part 1:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzejRRMeMg[/youtube]

Part 2:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLx2casDHmI[/youtube]

Part 3:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zyh0RNj9EY[/youtube]

Part 4:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wXQTk5R194[/youtube]

Part 5:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHPxhN8B8Q4[/youtube]

Regards,

~*~ Miska ~*~

Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

momowheeler — GMT

[quote=simkill]
Why am I talking about a planet in Spore forums? Well, the planet itself, many orbits ago (each orbit of the sun is 3,600 years on an elipticle path) is said to have collided with a planet that was previously in the solar system. The planet was mostly destroyed, but half of it was knocked out of its orbit, settled into a new orbit and became earth. The debris from the destroyed section is now the asteroid belt. Nibiru is believed to have water on it, which could explain the transfer of DNA of living creatures in ice from that planet to this one. Nibiru as you will see later does have a polar cap so this is a viable theory.

Please post what you think.[/quote]

I stopped at the end of that paragraph... ranks up there with Nessy and Bigfoot imho... plenty of valid, scientific evidence to prove this "theory" highly, [size=16]highly[/size], [size=20]highly[/size] improbable.

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I continued out of shear curiosity until this point: [b]Also, the pyramids are yet to be explained how they were built.[/b]

It's no secret how the pyramids were built. - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080328104302.htm

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[quote=jiman]2012 is the end of the world year.

Their are MULTIPLE accounts where 2012 is the end of the world.

2012 is when the Aztec calender suddendly stops working.[/quote]

More misinformation. It doesnt "stop working."... it "starts over."

The [b]MAYAN's[/b] believed in a spiritual rebirth, not a physical one. The whole "Mayan-2012-apocalypse" theory is misrepresented on a number of levels.

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simkill — GMT

Nice vids miska. What I will say is that I didn't know there was theory that Nibiru itself is an unborn star. I guess this would explain a tail if it was a gassey planet like they explained about jupiter. Other things I have questions about, is that the narrator says that 'the prepared will come together and help each other to survive' etc, so if this is so, the people who are willing to help each other survive have built bunkers capable of holding off the radiation of the solar storms. For these people to get to know of each other to start with, wouldn't there be some sort of Planet X Survival Forum? I'll be googleing for it after this post.

Also, the creator of this video happens to be the auther of the book. Creating fear by this video is a perfect way to increase sales, so some facts/fiction may be disproportionate to the actual threat.

On a final note, I would like to comment on another line in one of the above videos. They say that planet X is the cause of global warming. Only the ignorant would accuse total responsibility for the rapid changes of our planet to planet X when it isn't even visable in space yet (or at least may not be, I hvn't got a telescope to check, nor am I in the southern hemisphere. Global warming is a human creation, but what was not a human creation were the previous ice ages, and the fact that most of europe was extreamly hot. Ancient hippo and rhino skeletons have been found in the english channel that date back thousands of years when the english channel was not there, and the land was a mix of tropical and arid terrain.

Also with regard to the building of the pyramids, fair enough. The article is believable and the most likely explaination.

Quote: "I stopped at the end of that paragraph... ranks up there with Nessy and Bigfoot imho... plenty of valid, scientific evidence to prove this "theory" highly, highly, highly improbable. "

Please post any links you can for us to read.

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SKiZM — GMT

sweet, glad to see others discussing this. i already named my planet Niburu Prime with the Anu Naki race. :D
of course that space glitch killed my game :/

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simkill — GMT

May not be entirely related to Nibiru, but makes a good watch and people should probably view these to get an idea that it may be possible that ancient texts may hold some truth. Also includes a computer program that predicts the future.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYZtMwIPb4c[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De1HsF3eaAI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UANHRJlDRI0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9FagLR3WyM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Prkz3mOdnE&feature=related[/youtube]

Quote: "sweet, glad to see others discussing this. i already named my planet Niburu Prime with the Anu Naki race.
of course that space glitch killed my game :/"

Yeah, I know the one -_-

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venick — GMT

To be honest, if that planet is 4 years away from reaching us, we'd see it.

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Tenar — GMT

Cudous to being intrested in alternitive theories. However, my advice to anyone on this is to check the sources, and read other critiques of the same subject.

I often wonder why is it that people want to attribute the works of ancient men to "mysterious aliens" as though ancient people could not possibly have known how to make a pyramid?

We know exactly how the pyramid were made as someone pointed out.

[quote]Those who know about the pyramids of giza will know they are alligned perfectly with 3 stars in the sky.[/quote]

This is called the "Orion Correlation Theory" purposed by Robert Bauval.

[quote]When will they be alligned again? One source says 'Within the next few years' knowing noting about Nibiru and the 2012 prophesy.[/quote]

What "source" are you referring to?

It's pretty easy to predict when the stars would align again as it's just a mathematical prediction based on the tilt in the earths axis (precession). Precession takes 25,000 years or so to complete a cycle and since the proposal of alignment by Bauval was for the year 10,500BC-11,000BC the next alignment wouldn't be in our lifetime ;-)

[quote]Maybe there really are aliens on Nibiru who had given the egyptians the exact location of where the stars are and how to align the pyramids, or maybe they built the pyramids themselves (or gave blueprints or methods of how to build them) for the line of royalty they were designed for.[/quote]

because the ancient Egyptians (or whoever was around in 10,500BC) couldn't have done something like.. oh.. look up. :wink:

I watched the first video, it doesn't have much credentials if you ask me. But I do enjoy late night Coast to Coast AM now and again myself :)

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driniddle — GMT

Nibiru is [i]not real[/i], at least not in the 2012 sense. If anything comes close to earth in 2012 people will claim it is nibiru, but all current calculations say nothing will come close to Earth until 2029 with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis#Close_approaches]99942 Apophis[/url], and even then it's not projected to hit.

The only way it will hit us is if it goes through what's known as a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_keyhole]Gravitational Keyhole[/url], which would then make it hit us on 2036, and even then the chance that it will is extremely low. However, scientists are working on several methods to repel it, such as wrapping one side of the rock in a highly reflective material, turning it into a solar sail or sorts (say that three times fast).

The things I mentioned actually have real physics and math calculations behind them, with scientific evidence, which means a hell of a lot. A calender ending (don't calenders just flip back when they end?) and some old texts that make predictions based on superstitions, mythology, astrology, and all other nonsense do not.

As far as how the pyramids were built, there is a lot of information on [i]reasonable[/i] theories on how it was built. For instance:

[quote]Archaeologists believe that the Great Pyramid was built by tens of thousands of skilled workers who camped near the pyramids and worked for a salary or as a form of paying taxes until the construction was completed. The worker's cemeteries were discovered in 1990 by archaeologists Zahi Hawass and Mark Lehner. Verner posited that the labor was organized into a hierarchy, consisting of two gangs of 100,000 men, divided into five zaa or phyle of 20,000 men each, which may have been further divided according to the skills of the workers.[/quote]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pyramid_of_Giza#Construction_theories]Source[/url]

It's really not all that hard to find the truth behind a lot of things if you actually look for it. Speculations that come from "ancient texts" don't really mean anything, and saying that because someone today can't build it doesn't mean we didn't. We will not ever know exactly how they built it, but we can try and learn more about it. If all civilizations were destroyed and a group of very intelligent genetic engineers were left behind, they wouldn't be able to build half the stuff that exists, and the knowledge would be lost forever. It doesn't take long for information to be lost when it isn't explicitly recorded, and if it is if it's exposed to the elements for hundreds of years, like hieroglyphics. We're losing whole languages on a yearly - if not monthly - basis. These people are not being abducted by aliens, they're just dieing and are the last ones to know it because it wasn't carried on. Languages, lost forever because they simply aren't recorded.

If you want to visit another forum about all this 2012 and Nibiru nonsense and pseudoscientific doomsday prophesying, then go [url=http://www.bautforum.com/bad-astronomy-stories/73492-2012-article.html]here[/url]. In that thread there are a ton of links to other threads with this topic discussed. If you need to register to view this, I am sorry, I am registered so I am not aware.

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juhhmim — GMT

Funny.
Yesterday I just read a Finnish space-magazine and there was a guestion about this Nibiru.
They said that it was already supposed to hit us on year 2003 and there is no evidence of the planet or its effects on other planets and their routes.
And the route of Nibiru would also be too unstable for it to bypass Earth regularly.

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simkill — GMT

http://www.crystalinks.com/gpstats.html

lots of useful information about pyramids, stars and lignments. Apparently the last line up with the pole star to one of the pyramids passages was 2004. I must have read an old article when it said 'in the next few years'.

To the people who keep posting about the pyramids, we have already established that they were built by humans.

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Kinneas — GMT

If conditions are right (and they may be with global warming), then NIbiru could cause the south pole ice sheet to slide AGAIN (the great flood).

Could the Anunakki do anything about it at this time? The answer is probably [b]still[/b], "no".

Do people really believe this stuff? Just look at DUBAI. Mankind has always created great works just before ANU is expected to return for a visit. I hope he likes what we have done so far.

I'm glad we were born at a time when we may get to find out. So many people in time never got to live during the time of a return.

For better or worse... count yourself lucky.

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sporemasterjoe — GMT

I love reading and discussing things like this, we'll just have to wait.
:P

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WvMiskavW — GMT

[quote=simkill]Nice vids miska. [/quote]

:wink:

[quote=simkill]wouldn't there be some sort of Planet X Survival Forum?[/quote]

One would think there *would* be, but . . . there isn't any official word on this, at least that has been made public . . . at least that I know of.

[quote=simkill]
Also, the creator of this video happens to be the auther of the book. Creating fear by this video is a perfect way to increase sales, so some facts/fiction may be disproportionate to the actual threat.[/quote]

Good point; I'm not one to completely trust information without research either. :wink:

[quote=simkill]Global warming is a human creation[/quote]

Yes, this is what we are told, but . . . can anyone be completely/ 100% certain of that? See my above comment. :)

Regards,

~*~ Miska ~*~

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WvMiskavW — GMT

[b]More on Nibiru[/b]

My comments in ( ) parentheses:

Are you Ready? 3 (Answers & Facts!)
(informative, compiled information)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y[/youtube]

Nibiru Planet X
(very interesting short clip)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbJ2cyXspYo[/youtube]

*LEAKED* Nibiru Photo's 'Object orbitting in front
(watch before it gets removed again)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlKMfd1R8Ew[/youtube]

Two Crossings for Nibiru Planet X And Effects On Earth
(definition - Perihelion: the point in the orbit of a body when it is closest to the Sun)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87X50OF6hOA[/youtube]

Norway's ark-Doomsday CNN- 2012 Planet X ?
(it makes one wonder what inspired Norway to do this - in other words, what does the government of Norway know that we don't? )
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yMyis1MVOA[/youtube]

Just pointing to the information that is 'out there'; I make no claims that any of the above is accurate/true; however, the information, when one sits back and considers it all does cause one to wonder.

In my opinion, there IS more going on in our Solar System/ Galaxy than we've been told. Just my .02. :wink:

Regards,

~*~ Miska ~*~

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Aesper — GMT

I love all of this, I'll be doing some research in my spare time and post here if I come upon anything significant!

If any of you have ideas where or what I should start on that'd be great,

Seems like there is a mass of info and take forever to find anything without a good start point and any specific subject

to find.

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WvMiskavW — GMT

Aesper, here is a good place to start researching:

http://www.planetxvideo.com

- much information in the above site's various sections.

Regards,

~*~ Miska ~*~

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DrScientist — GMT

Why is this on the science forum?

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simkill — GMT

Quote:"Why is this on the science forum?"

I already explained in the very first post -_-

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070133 — GMT

Nibiru does not exist, it is a fantasy created by Zacharia Sitchin from yours free-associations about the Sumerians culture and legends.

Sitchin does not have the slightest knowledge of astronomy needed to understand that their world can not exist in our solar system.

Nibiru can not exist for several reasons but the key is the instability of its orbit and orbital instability that would in other planets of the solar system. Simulations using professionals planetary dynamics softwares show that our solar system even exist the way it is (for example the inner planets would not exist, would have been ejected from their orbits by gravitational interactions with Nibiru) if this planet existed.

Even Nibiru not existed in our solar system after a few orbits cause the gravitational interactions with Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune destabilise completely its highly elliptical orbit ejecting the planet of the solar system at hundreds or dozens of years (depending on the degree of orbital inclination given its orbit in the simulation)

Forget Nibiru, it is just a fantasy and these videos are fake.

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simkill — GMT

Can you state your sources for this simulator? I'd beinterested in reading it and if its public software, running it myself.

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Ashmo — GMT

The Mayan calendar stops working in 2012. So does our calendar on every single December 31st. It's the same thing.

Watching youtube videos and reading conspiracy theorist websites is NOT research, folks. Educate yourselves.

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Dylan1473 — GMT

Well, that certainly is...interesting. Though I have to say, I doubt it. I can maybe see the possibility of a planet, but all this goes way out there. I think you said you didn't really agree with most of the video yourself, and I will agree with you there- the video just seems silly. Lizard humanoids who came to Earth and disguised themselves as US presidents is actually a theory I have heard before, and don't think much of. I doubt it will "kill us all" either.

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BenRK — GMT

BenRK answers with common sense.

I'll state this right now, Nibiru is not real. At least, not in the sense of the world ending. Meaning, I haven't ruled out the possibility of more planets in our solar system, but this Nibiru just doesn't exist.

First and foremost, it has a claimed elliptical orbit of 3600 years. If a Nibiru event was to happen in 2012, this would mean that Nibiru would have gone through 99.909722222...% of its orbit. With less then 0.1% remaining in its orbit, and something of that size, we would be able to see something significant in the sky with our naked eyes. And guess what, we can't.

Secondly, there is no geological or historical evidence of such an event occurring 3596.75 years ago. Simple as that. And didn't we have some ancient civilizations back then that we talk about regularly, and they didn't die off 2596.75 years ago.

Personally, I find it more likely that the moon in an ancient alien space station then a Nibiru event in 2012 happening.

All in all however, the world will end as we know it in 2012. Come dooms day, some people freak out. Come the next day, they wake up, kick them selves for being stupid, and continue on with our lives, coming up with some new date for dooms day.

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Cthulhoo — GMT

Its all a lie the world really ended in 2000 when the crazy computers took over the world, your just in denial.

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Druidblue — GMT

[quote=simkill]
Also, some people say that Nibiru will cause dramatic changes in temperature due to the magnetic polar flip. The major effects of this are the icecaps melting, and hurricanes and tornados everywhere, including tsunamis and hailstones weighing over 100 pounds each, also including volcanoes and earthquakes larger than anything ever experienced before[/quote]

If the Warpublicans win the election this fall, we won't need Nibiru to melt the icecaps!
(The rest of the above is already occurring due to the impact of global climate change to this point.)

Every generation has those that think the world is going to end, it's nothing new.

Barring a mathematical quirk of the highest magnitude, we will destroy our own planet before it is destroyed by any outside source (given our current path, which we can change if people were willing.)

I believe we have a long history in front of us, and will eventually succeed in becoming a space-faring race, though it will be a long while from now.

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diggydawg284 — GMT

When Simkill Said:

Maybe there really are aliens on Nibiru who had given the egyptians the exact location of where the stars are and how to align the pyramids,

Like In the new Indiana Jones? lol

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Aweirdgamer — GMT

I have had theories of my own somewhat similar to this (for some reason) before really hearing all of this. Another thing, the second video of the first page has been removed. Coincedence or to prevent us from knowing the truth?! I don't know, just saying overdramatically. I believe there is something that will occur on December 21st, 2012 of great change, but why does it have do be the end of the world and not just a paradigm (a great change in thought for society) like finding other life but not hostile or anything? Well... why does it have to be the END or fake? I'm waiting. That's my answer, and since it's not in the poll options, I can't vote.

Oh yah, forgot something, according to something I learned earlier, there was a planet in the early solar system that did crash with Earth, that made our moon. It was about the size of Mars. (according to the show I saw on it)

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xdarkcodex — GMT

wow that is so deep

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070133 — GMT

[quote=simkill]Can you state your sources for this simulator? I'd beinterested in reading it and if its public software, running it myself.[/quote]

Sure,

You can download it here:

- http://www.arm.ac.uk/~jec/

( Mercury software is free )

The astronomer Patryk Sofia Lykawka ( specialist in Planetary Dinamic - http://harbor.scitec.kobe-u.ac.jp/~patryk/index-en.html ) made some simulations testing the stability of the solar system in the presence of a planet like Nibiru in a time scale of 10 million years.

The orbital data was got of Sitchin descriptions of Nibiru:

Semi-major axis (a): 235.5000000
Eccentricity (e): 0.9800000
Inclination (i): 30.0000000
Longitude of ascending node (Node): 120.5911330
Argument of perihelion (Peri): 90.0000000
Mean anomaly: 66.9061279
Diameter: 427600 km
Mass relative to:
- Earth: 314.483728404982
- Sun: 9.44442489354537E-04
- Jupiter: 1
- Kg: 1.8786E+27

The results of the simulations are here:

[quote]
[b]Simulation without Nibiru:[/b]
- No surprise, the entire Solar System and the belt of asteroids have remained stable until the end ( of simulation). Simulations published in scientific articles show stability more than 5 ~ 10 billion years.

[b]Simulations with Nibiru: [/b]
- [b]Planets:[/b] orbits of the planets become instable at least 1 million years! Some planets are expelled from the Solar System (for Nibiru or Jupiter, after disruptions caused by the first). Collisions of Mercury, Venus and Earth to the sun also possible. At the end of 10 million years, usually what's left is a system with 2-5 planets, and with profound changes in their orbits (in fact, instable orbits ).
- [b]Nibiru:[/b] was ejected of Solar System by Jupiter after a few million years in 2 of 3 simulations. Its orbit has never remained stable! In the last simulation, survided by 10My, but the other planets not ...
- [b]Earth:[/b] deeply disturbed by Nibiru on a scale of time for hundreds of thousands of years. Orbit significantly amended or even ejection system.
- [b]The asteroid belt:[/b] the great majority are ejected out of the Solar System in less than 500 thousand years. General trend: the total destruction in millions of years.
[/quote]

Nibiru is a planet impossible in our solar system, at present or in the past. Nibiru is an urban legend !

[b]Note:[/b]

You also use another astronomical integrators like:

- http://math.ubbcluj.ro/~sberinde/solsyin/index.html

- http://www.orbitsimulator.com/gravity/articles/what.html

- http://universesandbox.com/

The first two are free and more scientifically confiable than the last. The first two also more intuitive than Mercury ( good for beginners )

But the best ( with scientically robust results ) is the Mercury of John Chambers.

[ ]´s

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warcrazy123 — GMT

this is just funny how simkill didnt relise that if it does exist it would have hit earth 3600 years ago and that would have killed all humans but it didnt cause it wont hit earth

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link99912 — GMT

In short, it is a real planet, that is confirmed, the thing is...

IT DOES NOT support life.
IT WILL NOT kill us all.
And scientist believe that it's own magnetic polarity or something something will stop before it reaches earth.
IT DID NOT start life on earth, let's be honest, "Aliens came here from lightyears away came before man had technology, left us here, died out for some reason, left no trace of there existence, and are coming back to get us. See something wrong here?
The pyramids have been quite explained... Actually, there are many many many accounts of how they were explained... They are so explained, that this would make you retarded to say that they haven't been explained.
Earth was not the reminisce of another planet... Why? Oh that's right, it's perfectly spherical and is placed in the exact position on a stable orbit to support life. The moon however, is believed to have possibly been once part of earth.
If planet Niribu or what ever has water, it is all quite frozen if it does, second, it has no certain orbit, do to the fact that it can't be that far from it's sun and still be orbiting it.
There is a moon that orbits... Jupiter I believe, that has frozen water on top, and water under that, but that is all.
Niribu is a completely dark planet if it is that far from it's orbit, it has no plants, it has no life.
It it hit a planet, it would have been thrown off orbit.

Ok, there's just too many reasons for Niribu not to have life, and all of these theory to be absolutely insane. At best, it is a planet that will not come any where near earth, or a large displaced planet that will eathier come close to earth, miss, or not come at all.

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link99912 — GMT

" Also, believe it or not, Ancient egypt used to be lushous green land with rivers, grass and trees. Something happened to cause a massive change of environment for the earth to turn it into the desert it is today. "

The Nile is quite lush, and if you've learned about a magical being called the dinosaur, you'll know that when they existed the earth shifted quite a lot, it was once very flooded, then the ice age happened, and a lot of the water turned into the polar ice caps.

[quote]The only way it will hit us is if it goes through what's known as a Gravitational Keyhole, which would then make it hit us on 2036, and even then the chance that it will is extremely low. However, scientists are working on several methods to repel it, such as wrapping one side of the rock in a highly reflective material, turning it into a solar sail or sorts (say that three times fast). [/quote]

EDIT: Also, the asteroid thing that's supposed to hit in 2029, has a 1 in 45000 chance, or it did any way, until being classified as a close encounter, on both 2029 and 2036 where it will look like a pin point of star light. Oh, if it hits the gravitational key hole, it will appear again as a close encounter in 2036, if not, it will not show up at all.

Oh, and one of my final opinions... I don't care if it's real or not, if it destroys us, it's a worth while way to die. If we are visited by aliens, it's a worth while way to 'meet are makers'. And although I have [size=24]HIGH[/size] doubts about this, I suppose we just have to wait and see. But if it doesn't come, I'm going to laugh at every one who believed in it, especially on youtube.

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warcrazy123 — GMT

well if a meteor did come nasa said that they would have a plan for deflecting it i got this from http://near.jhuapl.edu/intro/faq.html go to question 14 that says Say an asteroid does come toward Earth?

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spacecoconut — GMT

I'd be surprised if this planet really existed, we can see planets/stars/solarsystems millions of lightyears away from our own solarsystem, with telescopes such as the Hubble telescope, so it would kinda odd that we didn't see this planet while it's relatively close (or is it that far way :?: ) I also don't think the ice ages are caused by this planet because they occure every 10.000 years and not every 3600 years, also the dinosaurs lived for millions of years so this planet must have passed by lots of times and they would have been extinct much earlier, just like humans would already have been extinct. And about egypt becoming a desert, the sahara dessert in Northern Africa used to be an ocean so I can imagine that region was fertile for a time before it turned into a dessert ;)

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kylemesa — GMT

lame... i thought this was a science forum.

why would you put a conspiracy theory in a science forum...

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link99912 — GMT

[quote=kylemesa]lame... i thought this was a science forum.

why would you put a conspiracy theory in a science forum...[/quote]

Because the planet it self is thought to exist, then some one out there says "THIS MEANS ALIENS!" and spreads it all about the world. The end of the world from Nibiru is an unlikely scenario.

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spacecoconut — GMT

[quote=link99912]The end of the world from Nibiru is an unlikely scenario.
[/quote]
I totally agree, if it was possible, it would have already happened long time ago

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Jackuul — GMT

Sitchen's theory is relatively unfounded but nevertheless interesting. It is stated that Niburu is in a highly elliptical orbit which does not go around on the same plane as the rest of the planets. Think of it orbiting vertically or diagonally, instead of like the rest of the planets which are relatively horizontal and on the same line.

The theory further evolved that it takes some 3,000 years for it to go around, and that their atmosphere uses gold to shield it, and to trap heat. That the aliens are the gods of Egypt, Maya, etc, and that it will come round again in 2084.

Further, Sitchin postulates through DNA that we were modified, and created as slaves to mine gold, and that is why we value it so much today. Then, in 2084, they will come back and harvest it. Additionally something about a city in old Babylon being destroyed by nuclear fallout.

Personally - I don't give this idea much credit except as a tiny minute one in a Yottatillion billion trillion million infinibazillion chance of being true.

But wouldn't it be cool if it was? Then we could all say 'we are spore!' and then once that hits us, be very very disappointed that they came up with human beings, and not some Godzilla creature that spits fire and flies.

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link99912 — GMT

If that was true- (0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000(1?))- Then I'd be pissed, I'd walk right up to them and be like, "SPORE, what the SPORE, you could have made me have pcychic powers and just be able to BLOW the gold out of the mine?"

One thing that REALLY doesn't make sense is that not all humans work in gold mines, and that are soul desire in life isn't "let's go get us some gold." Oh wait... It also doesn't really make sense that we would be created by alien gods from a planet light years away... Hmmmmm...

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sonickat — GMT

First time poster. I've been a long time lurker of forums like Above Top Secret and I have read alot of start of civilization theories in the past, which is part of why spore really appealed to me.

I found this thread today and spent some time doing some reading on the interventionism which I hadn't really studied in the past that much and I ran into Lloyd Pye's work.

I was reading through his essay "HUMAN ORIGINS: CAN WE HANDLE THE TRUTH?" (http://www.lloydpye.com/) and I had a very strange thought.

What if you could reconcile Interventionism and Evolution into a single theory?

If your terraforming a planet you have a reason to do so and just like the arguments Pya makes against our ancestors domesticating plants the same arguments could be made for why a species sentient and capable of seeding galaxys wth life and using that life to terraform a planet wouldnt spnt countless eons waiting for their work to prosper if they have a faster way of doing it.

Imagine thus each life form has a range of conditions required for it to live, the least plausible enviornment where it would struggle to survive, each animal is the "food web" ill steal spore's term offers something to the cycle of life in the system making it more survivable for more complex organisms.

You could seed each small micro evolutionary step along the path to a planet to progress it and take many eons to do so.

But you could also put the most strongest organisms needed to do the current task on the planet and let them sit until they have stablized the eco system far enough that you can skip 3 4 maybe even a 100 genetic evolutnary mutations and drop them in when they can barely survive the eco system. Leapfrogging the evolutionary chain.

These newer stronger better organisms then depleate the food sources for the weaker earlier organisms and they die out creating the gaps in the evolutionary chain here.

But this does not neccesarily rule out that evolution does not exist on other planets that life somewhere else did not evolve over untold years. It is possible while remote that i could of at some point somwehere occured naturally and someone else has taken advantage and been "playing" the min/max curve to get earth upto speed as quickly as possible.

Hence what appear to be leaps and jumps in the evolutionary chains in the fossil record.

So both theories could theoretically co-exist.

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elbrad — GMT

From NASA website

[quote]
#
Question

Is there a planet Nibiru that will pretty much destroy earth in 2012? I watched a video about it last night and I freaked out so bad i was shaking and crying. Is our world coming to an end in 2012? If so... why cant we just blow the thing up and call it a day?

I am really sorry that these crazy Nibiru claims have upset you. I don't want to keep answering these questions about Nibiru, but let me say once more as clearly as I can, for you and the other questioners: Nibiru does not exist. NASA has never discovered or detected Nibiru or anything remotely like it. The handful of dwarf planets that astronomers have discovered beyond Neptune are on stable orbits that will never come into the inner solar system, let alone threaten Earth. Nothing will happen in 2012. Nibiru is simply a fake, a hoax, the result of a small religious cult that is unfortunately scaring lots of people with totally false stories. David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist
January 31, 2008[/quote]

Nibiru will come and try to destroy us all, but we will be saved by [b]The Invisible Pink Unicorn![/b]

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Venderman — GMT

I don't believe in it, just seems like another wacky thing like "Reptoids".

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link99912 — GMT

HAIL THE UNICORN!

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=link99912][/quote]

You broke the forum.

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Shademaster — GMT

[quote=simkill]As you may have noticed if you have read my topic properly, is that what i'm talking about is not Eris (aka sedna). The orbit of this planet is 48 degrees off kilter with the rest of the planets orbit paths, as in it is not a 'flat' orbit (bar neptune/pluto as one of the two is 12 degrees off too). The orbit of this planet is also not elypticle, and the size of the planet is also too small to do any harm if it got close enough, which it undoubtabley won't.

Eris (aka Sedna) is only slightly larger than pluto, making it the largest thing in the kuiper belt. Also, Nibiru is though to be a 'Comet planet' as in it has an elypticle orbit, has poles and also has a tail. I don't know the physics of a comit planet having a tail, but the tail part sounds unlikely, even though if you do mid tone highlights in photoshop of the planet on google sky, it has a red aura to the top left hand corner which can only be described as looking as irregular in shape as a flame. I'm not saying it is a flame or a tail, but it's there all the same.

Please read my previous post about why NASA wouldn't want to say anything about a comet planet.

Also about the mayan calander, I agree that it dosn't just end. Its just as far as they bothered to calculate before it resets to day 1 (the end of the winter equinox). I think one of the other posts may have gotton mixed up between aztec and mayan.

EDIT: The comet that you say was calculated to hit, then calculated to miss earth is not a comet, it's an asteroid named 99942 Apophis (previously 2004 MN4). Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis for more details. And it was supposed to hit in 2030's not 2010's[/quote] you mentioned something about nibiru having a flamish red aura,i just realized that in 1 of the videos,it mentioned the aliens coming down from space in ships of flame,Flame=Red Aura?

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Worldbreaker276 — GMT

[quote=simkill]First of all, I AM NOT RELIGIOUS. If anything I say sounds like it supports religious content, it's mearly speculation.

For those who don't know, Planet Nibiru (or Planet X, or marduk) is believed by some to be the 10nth planet in our solar system, yet not officially discovered, although there are alot of conspiracy theories regarding NASA's stance on Planet X even existing. So called 'leaked pictures' are on the internet available to those who want to look for them, but the youtube vid posted later on in this post if more credable as you will see.

Why am I talking about a planet in Spore forums? Well, the planet itself, many orbits ago (each orbit of the sun is 3,600 years on an elipticle path) is said to have collided with a planet that was previously in the solar system. The planet was mostly destroyed, but half of it was knocked out of its orbit, settled into a new orbit and became earth. The debris from the destroyed section is now the asteroid belt. Nibiru is believed to have water on it, which could explain the transfer of DNA of living creatures in ice from that planet to this one. Nibiru as you will see later does have a polar cap so this is a viable theory.

The History:

Nobody wants to read a long post, so see this youtube video for a basic history of Nibiru. Please read the rest of the post after you have viewed the vid if you don't believe the religious stuff about how the aliens created genetically modified slaves, as I don't believe the religious stuff they have talked about either but I have more about it to tell you, and it is certainly a viable theory if you are open minded.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcGBM2RzTHo[/url]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcGBM2RzTHo[/youtube]

If you look for more videos about Nibiru on youtube, you'll find alot with www.saintbirgitta.com in the description. I'd recommend disregarding anything from these people as I've watched laods of their videos, and they are just trying to instill the fear of god into people with poorly edited rubbish. They also make vids of warewolves, exorcisms etc and refuse comments and ratings on all of their vids through fear of being discredited by the more logical people of the net.

Rumour has it that the giant telescope that was built at the southpole by NASA was primarily built to search for this planet.

Nibiru, The Future: So, the orbit is once every 3,600 years in an elipticle path just like comets. When is it next due? Some say 2012, possibly December. Does it matter? Well, some people believe that the magnetic effect will change the polarity of the planet, as explained by some astrologists as 'the same as placeing two magnet together. One will flip to be attracted to the other'.

Some say the earth will stop spinning for a day, giving a full 24 hours of daytime for some, 24 hours darkness for others in accordance to various religious books and beliefs (dark for india, light for USA). Others say this isn't physically possible. Also, some people say that Nibiru will cause dramatic changes in temperature due to the magnetic polar flip. The major effects of this are the icecaps melting, and hurricanes and tornados everywhere, including tsunamis and hailstones weighing over 100 pounds each, also including volcanoes and earthquakes larger than anything ever experienced before due to Nibiru attacting the Earth and attracting the liquid unter the planets surface, causes the plates to shift, collide and cause these events. This 'Apocolyptic' weather may last for 50 years leaving no or virtually no life alive. Others say there will be horrendously bad weather, but if the orbit is only 3,600 years, then it happened before, not killing everything (ancient egypt existed at the time).

What I will say about ancient egypt and other cultures around at that time, is that they all believe in some sort of race or gods coming and teaching them various things such as civilisation and astronomy. Those who know about the pyramids of giza will know they are alligned perfectly with 3 stars in the sky. At least when they were built. When will they be alligned again? One source says 'Within the next few years' knowing noting about Nibiru and the 2012 prophesy. Maybe these dates are coincidental, maybe not. Maybe there really are aliens on Nibiru who had given the egyptians the exact location of where the stars are and how to align the pyramids, or maybe they built the pyramids themselves (or gave blueprints or methods of how to build them) for the line of royalty they were designed for.

Also, the pyramids are yet to be explained how they were built. The Japanese have tried to build a 1/4 scale size of the pyramids using todays technology, and failed. Maybe something will happen that will explain how they got the positioning so precise. Also, believe it or not, Ancient egypt used to be lushous green land with rivers, grass and trees. Something happened to cause a massive change of environment for the earth to turn it into the desert it is today. Also remember the story of Noahs great flood. I don't believe Noah or his boat, but the event itself could have happned and a story of a saviour made up.

Some people believe that Nibiru is inhabited by an alien race of giants called the nephalim. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim for more details of (ridiculous) religious beliefs. The aliens are said to be in the Hebrew bible, on samoan tablets (samoans being the oldest of the ancient civilisations, along with babylon), in the new american bible to name a few.

[b]Nibiru found:[/b] Youtubers/amature astronomers believe they have found the planet, although no official statement has been made by NASA. They say on their website you can ask them about anything so it's not like they don;t want to talk. I have given NASA the co-ordinates on google sky where the planet is and I still have no reply. Foy you to check yourself, there is a dead star at google sky co-ordinates 13, 16, 58, 9h 47m 59, and just like the youtube vid of google sky, you will see the red planet just to the right of the star. This is NOT mars. Google pics of mars and you will see the obvious differences if you get your red planets confused. The planet features a pole, large craters and a massive crack in its surface which is evidence that it has hit a planet before (or at least something huge), crediting the 'planet crashing into the previous planet that created earth' story.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnMbaOdUEME[/url]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnMbaOdUEME[/youtube]

Some people believe they can see it using ground telescopes, others say it won't become completly visable untill June 09 when it will appear clearly in the sothern hemisphere.

Some people believe this is all a hoax. To them, I'd say check co-ordinates above, take a screen shot, send it to NASA and await response.

Possibly linked things to the passing of Nibiru including ancient stories:

Atlantis

Noahs arc (the flooding)

Massive change of climate in egypt

The Ice ages

The earth wobbling on its axis and not able to keep a stable magnetic pole

The start of DNA, Water, Ice and life on earth

The recently changed face of Venus (discoveries have found that recently (recently in NASA terms can be up to thousands of years when talking about planets) Venus has 'Shed its skin' by some catastrophic event ripping the face off the planet that is yet to be explained. This can be researched online)

The orbits of Sedna, Pluto and Neptune being out of alignment with the rest of the orbiting planets. They were once shunted from there positions into new orbits by 'A massive object that has long since gone' according to astronomers.

The death of the dinosaurs

The cause of the tectonic plates breaking and moving apart (millions of years ago the land mass used to be one solid lump, but it has broken and is now moving. See an atlas and compare 'holes' in the edges of continets to the shape of nearby continents)

Please post what you think.[/quote]

I doubt its exists, and if it does, I don't think its going to do much.

People always look for an excuse to say the world is ending...

Remember Y2K, 6/6/06? Were still here, and not back in the stone age.

People are saying 12/21/12 is the end of the world because of some mayan calander which ended at that date. However as I've said to people, I don't put stock in such things, and there was no apocalyptic cataclysm predicted on the calander, so I'm not at all worried.

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Carpman — GMT

I also think there is no credibility in this, And the earlier parts of the theory sounds like that wierd religion scientology which this sci fi writer made and is utterly convinced.

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theultimateend — GMT

[quote=xlapin]What, ANOTHER end of the world? Geebus...[/quote]

What? It's not like there are literally thousands of recorded false ends of the world.

People are just plain stupid.

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LailaK — GMT

10th planet? Where's the 9th?

(Ha ha, screw you Pluto!)

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theultimateend — GMT

[quote=lailak]10th planet? Where's the 9th?

(Ha ha, screw you Pluto!)[/quote]

"I'm a big fat nothing!"

I love that joke.

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lordofthunder — GMT

the only interesting thing about the 2012 prediction is some theories meet eachother at that date.
a few things which i give some credibility:

- a rare alignment in our solar system is expected (where some people develop pseudo scientific theories or plain fantasy about what happens then)
- the mayan calender ending (which some probably critisise because the stars had different positions at the time and their time calculations were based on it so i can't be sure if it's really ending. but even if it is so: maybe they simply didn't have enough room left to put the rest on it lol)

+ there might be others which can even be based upon the same (like i never heard of this unknown shattered planet, seems like a variation).

there always have been doom scenario's (and it might happen right now as a scientific possibility!) but worrying about things we can't do anyting about simply doesn't help at all. if this turns out to be date where the world ends then it won't be something to worry about anymore after it happens anyway.

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LailaK — GMT

The calendar on my wall ends in 2009.

Am I going to die? :cry:

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JPFrostfox — GMT

Sounds like it's all a bit out there, but space is vast and we've really only been around for relatively minuscule moment on a cosmic scale. NASA isn't going to try and hide anything... they really can't given the technology that is in so many hands in this day and age.

Anyhow, Shoemaker-Levy 9 really brought home the fact that planetary impacts are not an 'if' but a 'when'. That's pretty [bleeping] scary when you stop to consider just how insignificant it makes our everyday struggles to prosper and survive. It could literally be erased permanently by a single and titanically violent event over which we currently have no control.

Everyone had that fear lurking in the back of their heads after actually being able to witness it happen to Jupiter. A chunk of cosmic junk barreling down on your home and heating the atmosphere to 24,000 degrees Kelvin (over 23,000 degrees Celsius or nearly 43,000 degrees Fahrenheit) is definitely the stuff of nightmares. It's definitely the end of the ride.

I noticed that every video in this thread is 'no longer available. Odd.

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spacecoconut — GMT

[quote=jpfrostfox]
Anyhow, Shoemaker-Levy 9 really brought home the fact that planetary impacts are not an 'if' but a 'when'. That's pretty [bleeping] scary when you stop to consider just how insignificant it makes our everyday struggles to prosper and survive. It could literally be erased permanently by a single and titanically violent event over which we currently have no control.

I noticed that every video in this thread is 'no longer available. Odd.[/quote]
I hope by the time an asteroid or comet is on a collision course with our planet we have the technology to stop it [size=7]or maybe we have already found a new world[/size]

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Poetry — GMT

From another post of mine:

Asteroid strikes
As a FYI, march 2014 is when the current 'Dinosaur Killer' asteroid might hit here. It's a big year for space things it seems. It's a huge asteroid with a near earth collision vector and will completely miss the saturn/jupiter 'nudge' that usually protects our current Goldilocks Zone. 2003 QQ47 will apparently miss though, but pass close enough that debris will make for interesting skies that spring. Apophis is next, and will come a bit too close for comfort in 2029 and 2036, but will most likely do nada. Earlier this year has projections of getting a small nudge from Saturn. This will throw it an oblique into the asteroid belt. 2007 VK184 is next, and only has a TS1 rating for an impact with Earth during summer 2048. Though current projections might put it very close to the moon instead, but miss us completely. 2018 will be the calculation finalization date on 2007 VK184. Current projections show it avoids the Jupiter nudge completely making that 30 year projection easier. The nudge miss will be finalized by a late 2011 observation leading to a more accurate recalculation

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SivCorp — GMT

You are not guaranteed tomorrow, so live like you have no tomorrow. That's my theory on it all.

However, it is all very interesting. Keep watching the eastern sky folks...

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Danya — GMT

Brang it on, Nephalim!

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Poetry — GMT

[quote=lailak]The calendar on my wall ends in 2009.

Am I going to die? :cry: [/quote]

Yes :(

The good new is if your a normal health human being, it won't be 2009/2010. :thumbup:

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HyunSun — GMT

Its been discovered there is far more debris orbiting our sun beyond Pluto that would eliminated a need for a fictional planet to make all forces at work in our solar system theoretically sound and in 2012 my understanding is that our solar system is going to pass through the galactic equator and nothing more.

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link99912 — GMT

I can- GUARANTEE you tomorrow ;).

I can't believe this thread is still going...

-The Myan calendar RESETS in 2012, hell, you'd get tired of counting too after a couple hundred years too huh?

-Nasa made an announcement that the whole thing was a hoax created by a small religious cult in order to cause chaos amoungst the general public, and err- make people give them selves to god.

-No asteroid in 2014, or I don't believe there is- never herd anything about it... In 2029 an asteroid will come with in close contact with Earth, a threat level of zero, it will look like a small star in the night sky if you don't have a telescope. It has a relatively small chance of hitting a gravitational key hole, and coming back in 2036 for a close encounter again.

-Are biggest guaranteed death is in about 3.5 billion years with a collision with the Andromeda galaxy, are galaxies will fuse, resulting in- err, a bigger galaxy I guess. But we have a lot of time to think in 3.5 billion years huh?

-There is literally a 1 in 1 billion chance of a steller collision in the suns life span.

Anything else? Life will not end in 2012.

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Poetry — GMT

[quote=link99912]
-No asteroid in 2014, or I don't believe there is- never herd anything about it... In 2029 an asteroid will come with in close contact with Earth, a threat level of zero, it will look like a small star in the night sky if you don't have a telescope. It has a relatively small chance of hitting a gravitational key hole, and coming back in 2036 for a close encounter again. [/quote]

Just use the Asteroid ID 2003 QQ47 I gave above for it to ask someone who is into astrophysics or an astronomer . It was hot news a while back. Original impact date estimate March 18-22, 2014. 'Dino killer' sized rock that will be visible then but not even close at the moment.

Gonna miss is the current conclusion. 2003 QQ47 was the first one where news used the loose nature of calling it T1 to cause folks to go crazy. As a result of the press coverage of 2003 QQ47, the plan is to at the least to reevaluate the Torino scale. Recent actions have the goal to phase it out completely by 2011.

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Omegachicken — GMT

I hate to be a conspiracy theorist but why are many videos, images, and sites that were listed at the beginning of this thread "No longer available"?

Yes I know they could have gone inactive or be deleted but still.......

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dew0330 — GMT

I believe in it all, most of the fact add up to it however there are a few contradictory issues...

Im scared

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theultimateend — GMT

[quote=link99912]I can- GUARANTEE you tomorrow ;).

I can't believe this thread is still going...

-The Myan calendar RESETS in 2012, hell, you'd get tired of counting too after a couple hundred years too huh?

-Nasa made an announcement that the whole thing was a hoax created by a small religious cult in order to cause chaos amoungst the general public, and err- make people give them selves to god.

-No asteroid in 2014, or I don't believe there is- never herd anything about it... In 2029 an asteroid will come with in close contact with Earth, a threat level of zero, it will look like a small star in the night sky if you don't have a telescope. It has a relatively small chance of hitting a gravitational key hole, and coming back in 2036 for a close encounter again.

-Are biggest guaranteed death is in about 3.5 billion years with a collision with the Andromeda galaxy, are galaxies will fuse, resulting in- err, a bigger galaxy I guess. But we have a lot of time to think in 3.5 billion years huh?

-There is literally a 1 in 1 billion chance of a steller collision in the suns life span.

Anything else? Life will not end in 2012. [/quote]

I like when people who actually do a little research speak up :).

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Omegachicken — GMT

The whole "the universe will end in 2012" is bull. The part that got me thinking was the similar stories of ALL cultures having the reptilian rulers from the 10th planet.

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BlanketyBlankMan — GMT

[quote=simkill]Well, some people believe that the magnetic effect will change the polarity of the planet, as explained by some astrologists as 'the same as placeing two magnet together. One will flip to be attracted to the other'.[/quote]Earth's magnetic pole switches regularly. We have geological evidence of that. The world hasn't been destroyed because of it.

[quote]Some say the earth will stop spinning for a day, giving a full 24 hours of daytime for some, 24 hours darkness for others in accordance to various religious books and beliefs (dark for india, light for USA). Others say this isn't physically possible.[/quote]It's not. And even if it were, it wouldn't start rotating again.

[quote]Also, some people say that Nibiru will cause dramatic changes in temperature due to the magnetic polar flip. The major effects of this are the icecaps melting, and hurricanes and tornados everywhere, including tsunamis and hailstones weighing over 100 pounds each, also including volcanoes and earthquakes larger than anything ever experienced before due to Nibiru attacting the Earth and attracting the liquid unter the planets surface, causes the plates to shift, collide and cause these events. This 'Apocolyptic' weather may last for 50 years leaving no or virtually no life alive. Others say there will be horrendously bad weather, but if the orbit is only 3,600 years, then it happened before, not killing everything (ancient egypt existed at the time).[/quote]A pole flip wouldn't cause any of that, though you might be subject to more skin cancer and sunburns ;)

[quote]Also, the pyramids are yet to be explained how they were built.[/quote]Utter rubbish.

[quote]Maybe something will happen that will explain how they got the positioning so precise.[/quote]They looked up (or to the horizon). Just like the builders of many other enigmatic landmarks across our world (Stonehenge, Goseck Circle, Medicine Wheel, etc.)

[quote]Also, believe it or not, Ancient egypt used to be lushous green land with rivers, grass and trees.[/quote][url=http://www.touregypt.net/magazine/mag05012001/nile7.jpg]It still is[/url]. Well, "a" river.

[quote]Also remember the story of Noahs great flood. I don't believe Noah or his boat, but the event itself could have happned and a story of a saviour made up.[/quote][url=http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html#flood]No, it really couldn't have happened[/url]

[quote]Atlantis[/quote]You mean the island of Crete, or possibly a fabrication of Plato's to illustrate a point?

[quote]The Ice ages[/quote]Multiple reasons, but [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Vostok-ice-core-petit.png]perfectly natural and regular occurrence[/url]

[quote]The earth wobbling on its axis and not able to keep a stable magnetic pole[/quote]Earth's precession is due largely to the gravitational pull of the Sun on Earth, and because Earth is not a perfect sphere.

[quote]The start of DNA, Water, Ice and life on earth[/quote]There are many possibilities for the kickstart to life. You might want to read the Wikipedia page on [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis]Abiogenesis[/url] as a place to start.

[quote]The recently changed face of Venus (discoveries have found that recently (recently in NASA terms can be up to thousands of years when talking about planets) Venus has 'Shed its skin' by some catastrophic event ripping the face off the planet that is yet to be explained. This can be researched online)[/quote]Are you referring to the runaway greenhouse effect that happened to Venus? That's not so much a "catastrophic event" as "bound to happen because of how Venus' atmosphere and lithosphere were structured"

[quote]The orbits of Sedna, Pluto and Neptune being out of alignment with the rest of the orbiting planets. They were once shunted from there positions into new orbits by 'A massive object that has long since gone' according to astronomers.[/quote]Senda's orbit is most likely caused by either a Neptune-sized object in the Oort Cloud, or a near pass from another star.

[quote]The death of the dinosaurs[/quote]Iridium at the K-T Boundary, Chicxulub crater, and possible multiple-impacts (Chicxulub, Boltysh, Silverpit, and Shiva craters all date approx. 65my). There's really not much more to say unless you're a paleontologist or geologist by profession.

[quote]The cause of the tectonic plates breaking and moving apart (millions of years ago the land mass used to be one solid lump, but it has broken and is now moving. See an atlas and compare 'holes' in the edges of continets to the shape of nearby continents)[/quote]You're kidding. You think [i]continental drift[/i] is an alien conspiracy? Have you never heard of convection? That process that allows you to cook things in your oven, or to make spaghetti? Our planet is a pot of boiling water, and the continents are basil leaves floating on top. **** yes they're going to move around!

(Ok, no, I realize that plate tectonics isn't quite the same thing as basil leaves floating in boiling water. The geology involved is more complicated than that, and thankfully so. But including plate tectonics in a list of conspiracy theories is just dumb.)

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Finally:
The only thing I really know about the existence of "Nibiru" is a Babylonian poem where the name is a reference to Jupiter.

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Space_Coconut — GMT

[quote=BlanketyBlankMan][quote=simkill]Well, some people believe that the magnetic effect will change the polarity of the planet, as explained by some astrologists as 'the same as placeing two magnet together. One will flip to be attracted to the other'.[/quote]Earth's magnetic pole switches regularly. We have geological evidence of that. The world hasn't been destroyed because of it.

[quote]Some say the earth will stop spinning for a day, giving a full 24 hours of daytime for some, 24 hours darkness for others in accordance to various religious books and beliefs (dark for india, light for USA). Others say this isn't physically possible.[/quote]It's not. And even if it were, it wouldn't start rotating again.

[quote]Also, some people say that Nibiru will cause dramatic changes in temperature due to the magnetic polar flip. The major effects of this are the icecaps melting, and hurricanes and tornados everywhere, including tsunamis and hailstones weighing over 100 pounds each, also including volcanoes and earthquakes larger than anything ever experienced before due to Nibiru attacting the Earth and attracting the liquid unter the planets surface, causes the plates to shift, collide and cause these events. This 'Apocolyptic' weather may last for 50 years leaving no or virtually no life alive. Others say there will be horrendously bad weather, but if the orbit is only 3,600 years, then it happened before, not killing everything (ancient egypt existed at the time).[/quote]A pole flip wouldn't cause any of that, though you might be subject to more skin cancer and sunburns ;)

[quote]Also, the pyramids are yet to be explained how they were built.[/quote]Utter rubbish.

[quote]Maybe something will happen that will explain how they got the positioning so precise.[/quote]They looked up (or to the horizon). Just like the builders of many other enigmatic landmarks across our world (Stonehenge, Goseck Circle, Medicine Wheel, etc.)

[quote]Also, believe it or not, Ancient egypt used to be lushous green land with rivers, grass and trees.[/quote][url=http://www.touregypt.net/magazine/mag05012001/nile7.jpg]It still is[/url]. Well, "a" river.

[quote]Also remember the story of Noahs great flood. I don't believe Noah or his boat, but the event itself could have happned and a story of a saviour made up.[/quote][url=http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html#flood]No, it really couldn't have happened[/url]

[quote]Atlantis[/quote]You mean the island of Crete, or possibly a fabrication of Plato's to illustrate a point?

[quote]The Ice ages[/quote]Multiple reasons, but [url=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Vostok-ice-core-petit.png]perfectly natural and regular occurrence[/url]

[quote]The earth wobbling on its axis and not able to keep a stable magnetic pole[/quote]Earth's precession is due largely to the gravitational pull of the Sun on Earth, and because Earth is not a perfect sphere.

[quote]The start of DNA, Water, Ice and life on earth[/quote]There are many possibilities for the kickstart to life. You might want to read the Wikipedia page on [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis]Abiogenesis[/url] as a place to start.

[quote]The recently changed face of Venus (discoveries have found that recently (recently in NASA terms can be up to thousands of years when talking about planets) Venus has 'Shed its skin' by some catastrophic event ripping the face off the planet that is yet to be explained. This can be researched online)[/quote]Are you referring to the runaway greenhouse effect that happened to Venus? That's not so much a "catastrophic event" as "bound to happen because of how Venus' atmosphere and lithosphere were structured"

[quote]The orbits of Sedna, Pluto and Neptune being out of alignment with the rest of the orbiting planets. They were once shunted from there positions into new orbits by 'A massive object that has long since gone' according to astronomers.[/quote]Senda's orbit is most likely caused by either a Neptune-sized object in the Oort Cloud, or a near pass from another star.

[quote]The death of the dinosaurs[/quote]Iridium at the K-T Boundary, Chicxulub crater, and possible multiple-impacts (Chicxulub, Boltysh, Silverpit, and Shiva craters all date approx. 65my). There's really not much more to say unless you're a paleontologist or geologist by profession.

[quote]The cause of the tectonic plates breaking and moving apart (millions of years ago the land mass used to be one solid lump, but it has broken and is now moving. See an atlas and compare 'holes' in the edges of continets to the shape of nearby continents)[/quote]You're kidding. You think [i]continental drift[/i] is an alien conspiracy? Have you never heard of convection? That process that allows you to cook things in your oven, or to make spaghetti? Our planet is a pot of boiling water, and the continents are basil leaves floating on top. **** yes they're going to move around!

(Ok, no, I realize that plate tectonics isn't quite the same thing as basil leaves floating in boiling water. The geology involved is more complicated than that, and thankfully so. But including plate tectonics in a list of conspiracy theories is just dumb.)

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Finally:
The only thing I really know about the existence of "Nibiru" is a Babylonian poem where the name is a reference to Jupiter.[/quote]
lOl, you pwnd :mrgreen:

[quote][quote]The earth wobbling on its axis and not able to keep a stable magnetic pole[/quote]Earth's precession is due largely to the gravitational pull of the Sun on Earth, and because Earth is not a perfect sphere.[/quote]
The gravity of moon is also working like a gyroscope on the earth to make it turn on a stable axis.

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neunzehnisbest — GMT

If it's only 4 years away on its 3600 year path, don't you think it'd at least be even slightly visible by now?

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Meffy — GMT

Blankety, thankety. *salute*

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JPFrostfox — GMT

[quote=BlanketyBlankMan]
[quote]Also, some people say that Nibiru will cause dramatic changes in temperature due to the magnetic polar flip. The major effects of this are the icecaps melting, and hurricanes and tornados everywhere, including tsunamis and hailstones weighing over 100 pounds each, also including volcanoes and earthquakes larger than anything ever experienced before due to Nibiru attacting the Earth and attracting the liquid unter the planets surface, causes the plates to shift, collide and cause these events. This 'Apocolyptic' weather may last for 50 years leaving no or virtually no life alive. Others say there will be horrendously bad weather, but if the orbit is only 3,600 years, then it happened before, not killing everything (ancient egypt existed at the time).[/quote]A pole flip wouldn't cause any of that, though you might be subject to more skin cancer and sunburns ;)[/quote]

I think the section here is a result of misconception by many people on what actually happens. Some people seem to believe that a magnetic pole flip involves the entire planet rotating 180 degrees, which is obviously preposterous (not to mention not a magnetic pole flip but just a pole flip), they don't get that it's just a change in the magnetic field not the physical orientation of the planet.

While it is possible for it to play great havoc with current technology and possibly result in a lot of dead migratory birds, weather phenomena and/or possibly climate change I don't think it would cause the end of the world. Some difficulty yes, but as stated we know it's happened before and I believe it would be manageable. Not to mention completely unrelated to said 'alleged' mystery planet (which I believe is myth).

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link99912 — GMT

www.nasa.com

I can't believe this is still going on... Once more- religious cult came up with the idea- "Hey! I bet that we can get idiots to believe that a planet is coming and the final battle of god and the devil will occur!" "Why do you say that? That is impossible!" "Let me show you... THE INTERNET!" "OMG HAXORS PLOX GOD RULS!" Then, after this was put on the internet, some conspiracy theorist were like- "PLANET NIRIBU! OMGS HAXORS NERD NERD MONKEY PLOX! ALIENS AAAALLLIIIIEEEENNNNNNSSSSSS!" and then some one looked up in the sky and said "What the SPORE."

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BlanketyBlankMan — GMT

[quote=Space_Coconut][quote][quote]The earth wobbling on its axis and not able to keep a stable magnetic pole[/quote]Earth's precession is due largely to the gravitational pull of the Sun on Earth, and because Earth is not a perfect sphere.[/quote]
The gravity of moon is also working like a gyroscope on the earth to make it turn on a stable axis.

[/quote]Not quite. A gyroscope is affected by gravitational pull along it's axis of rotation; the Earth is affected by gravitational pull (approximately) perpendicular to its axis of rotation. Both Moon and Sun do this (and other planets in our system... and technically everything in the universe, but gravitational force dies off exponentially, so the effects of anything else but maybe Jupiter are completely negligible), though the Sun much more so due to its huge mass. In the case of Earth, the precession is caused because the Earth is not a perfect sphere, and so the Sun (or Moon) pull on different parts of the Earth by different amounts - a pulge in the surface facing the sun will be pulled on more than the surrounding area, because it is, ultimately, closer to the sun than it ought to be.

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JPFrostfox — GMT

Slightly off the topic ... but gravity has always fascinated me.

Sparing the mathematical, I suppose one of the main reasons is the fact that it can be so relatively weak and even subtle (life your hand, you have defeated gravity), yet also incredibly powerful with nearly infinite complexities and the ability to crush matter into a singularity.

Had to say that, as the talk about gravity brought it to mind again.

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i-photon — GMT

Nibiru... lizard men... aliens that created humans as slaves?

Now what idiot would engineer such an inefficient biological organism to be a slave and at the same time have the ability to think critically? You'd think with such divine powers they could animate stone and steel to work for them and just eliminate everything alive on the planet to prevent further consumption of resources. I sense raw creativity with a lot of flaws not entirely thought through.

Behold the creativity of the human mind, the same creativity that spawned Christianity and the religions before it. We question the purpose for our existence and our understanding of the world, so we fill in the blanks with things that make us comfortable... or fill them in for others so that they can be manipulated for personal gain.

Inventing such stories is how societies cope and carry on, because if we were all to seek the truth, we would probably ponder our existence until it ceases altogether.

Your purpose is what you make of it, as reality is always interpreted. Lizard people or not.

I just wish people would stop throwing their crazy dogma in my direction; it disrupts my prayers to the flying spaghetti monster.

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Space_Coconut — GMT

"Deleted"

sorry posted into wrong topic :?

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Original182 — GMT

Man I've never heard of this before. Really alot to read.

But sometimes I do feel like the end of the world is coming soon. Just too much death and moral decay in the world right now.

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JPFrostfox — GMT

[quote=Original182]Man I've never heard of this before. Really alot to read.

But sometimes I do feel like the end of the world is coming soon. Just too much death and moral decay in the world right now.[/quote]

It was always this bad, we were just better able to hide and obscure it. Oh the joy of instant and global communications networks. That's my opinion anyway. :?

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Original182 — GMT

Don't mind this post. :P

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PlasteredDragon — GMT

Utter poppycock. Has no place in the "Science" forum. Whenever Nbiru is supposed to happen? I'llk be in my kitchen the morning after scratching myself and making tea just like the day before. Seriously people, there are plenty of REAL things to concern ourselves with--this sort of mumbo jumbo is nonproductive.

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Parvati — GMT

It does have a place in the science forum.
Even if it sounds like hogwash, see it as a study on modern myths.

I do not believe in Niburu.
The Anunnaki have no relation to Niburu.

PlanetX or Niburu as you call it is an interesting aspect on the disinfo side. Thats what it is, disinfo nothing else.

Naturally I have no proof to back this up.
Besides the logic that a planet with a rotation as Niburu could not support life. No mather how advanced they may be, the cost would be higher then the benefit not to mention that it would probably get ripped apart.

And if you believe the Anunnaki to be real you should be aware that they are very economically oriented.

The rabbit hole is deep.

EDIT: its interesting that people who are on the established science side can use old and new data that has been proven to be false as they please. Myself i do not think there is anything to the entire 'story'.

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dashp — GMT

Read the wiki article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothetical_planetary_object_(non-scientific)#Planets_proposed_by_Zecharia_Sitchin about it. That guy doesn't seem so smart. As far as I can tell, he's just saying what he had a dream about last night, or saw on the sci-fi channel. I don't mean to insult anyone who believes in these things but, people think what they want to think. If someone decides that they were abducted by aliens, then they believe they were. If I keep telling myself that we are in an interstellar war with the Artog race of the Yeeeeeeeeg system, that's what I will think.

(the link isn't working, just copy it.)

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Sunyavadin — GMT

Everyone laughs now, but when the tenth planet arrives, and we're suddenly being invaded by Cybermen - WHO'LL BE LAUGHING THEN?

....except of course The Doctor.

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SmokeyPSD — GMT

Wat's with all the crackpot theories coming onto this forum, lol.

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Sunyavadin — GMT

I really have no idea. I'm just enjoying it.

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Torbin — GMT

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G4005t — GMT

Lets worry about this later, first lets see if we survive that black hole experiment they are going do to then the asteroid that is supposed to hit earth soon after that :roll:

and besides, if it does happen, like there is anything we can do about it... We might as well ignore the fact that it MIGHT happen.

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rodge_002 — GMT

There is actually more than 9 planets... But most of em are smaller than pluto... The so called tenth planet is Eris, 5% larger than pluto and has one moon. :D

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kiwifreak — GMT

[quote=PlasteredDragon]Utter poppycock. Has no place in the "Science" forum. Whenever Nbiru is supposed to happen? I'llk be in my kitchen the morning after scratching myself and making tea just like the day before. Seriously people, there are plenty of REAL things to concern ourselves with--this sort of mumbo jumbo is nonproductive.[/quote]
This, along with wondewr what I get for christmas (it's 2 or 4 days after 'doomsday')

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Sunyavadin — GMT

[quote=G4005t]Lets worry about this later, first lets see if we survive that black hole experiment they are going do to then the asteroid that is supposed to hit earth soon after that :roll:

and besides, if it does happen, like there is anything we can do about it... We might as well ignore the fact that it MIGHT happen.

[/quote]

I don't know... Channeling all the resources we waste each year on unproductive warfare into building enormous weaponry in orbit aimed outwards at any asteroids/aliens/miscellaneous threats/etc. seems a pretty viable option to me.

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HyunSun — GMT

[quote]I don't know... Channeling all the resources we waste each year on unproductive warfare into building enormous weaponry in orbit aimed outwards at any asteroids/aliens/miscellaneous [/quote]

Its population control less people less resource are need. That has always been the point of war in human history. If look at all the wars in the world and not what each side claimed the reason was for fighting the war. It always comes back to resource control, land, a precocious metals or such. Even oil.

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Sunyavadin — GMT

Once we cut the current population to manageable levels, possibly with a maximum cap on what percentage of the population can be of each ethnicity to maintain maximum gene pool size, and when we have production systems in place to maintain that size of society, education systems in place to ensure their education, health care in place to ensure long, healthy lives for them (And a combination of those two, to help maintain the first part, the population control) - then we'd be set.

But co-operation between all members of our species to that degree? Unlikely. At least until about 20 years from now when China has so many mass drivers on the moon pointed at us, that everyone's got no choice but to work together one way or another.

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ccaptorchen — GMT

I'm sorry... I wasn't aware that I need to wear tin foil hats for this forum.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkJLIxvw6wY[/youtube]

please fast forward to 7:15 of that vid...

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Ashloc — GMT

If this race existes maybe they can get spore working by 2012 which will be 4 years sooner then Maxis and EA can do it

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Sunyavadin — GMT

The underwater stage of Spore was removed to cover up the existence of a super-advanced race in ATLANTIS. True story....

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Parvati — GMT

Amazing how uninformed some of you are.

Not that I buy into Nibiru.
But to keep hearing about Tin foil hats,atlantis and this is my favorite, a population cap. Is completely silly.
I am not saying I belong to the crowd that according to some of you wears tin foil hats, but I sure know I certainly do not belong to any of you.

I am sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about if you actually think that a population cap based on etnic groups is a viable strategy. To maintain the gene pool :roll:. You may think what you are saying is wise.

But I would call that slightly dangerous.
Even quite racist.

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ccaptorchen — GMT

[quote=Parvati]Amazing how uninformed some of you are.

Not that I buy into Nibiru.
But to keep hearing about Tin foil hats,atlantis and this is my favorite, a population cap. Is completely silly.
I am not saying I belong to the crowd that according to some of you wears tin foil hats, but I sure know I certainly do not belong to any of you.

I am sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about if you actually think that a population cap based on etnic groups is a viable strategy. To maintain the gene pool :roll:. You may think what you are saying is wise.

But I would call that slightly dangerous.
Even quite racist.[/quote]

you know that tin foil hat comment was a joke right?? and so was the atlantis comment above you. guess the group you belong to is labeled people that can't understand sarcasm?

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=ccaptorchen]

you know that tin foil hat comment was a joke right?? and so was the atlantis comment above you. guess the group you belong to is labeled people that can't understand sarcasm? [/quote]

Honestly that did escape me yes.
Don't you know sarcasm doesn't work on the internet. Eventhoug the joke is so old and where I live its being used to describe and laugh with people who are just a bit more out there.

It did not hit me as sarcasm.

The population cap was sarcasm too?

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ccaptorchen — GMT

[quote=Parvati]
Honestly that did escape me yes.
Don't you know sarcasm doesn't work on the internet. Eventhoug the joke is so old and where I live its being used to describe and laugh with people who are just a bit more out there.

It did not hit me as sarcasm.

The population cap was sarcasm too?[/quote]

I didn't see any post about population caps, and I find that somewhat dangerous as well, doesn't matter how old the jokes.. it really apply here. that vid in the first post talk about alien overlords... I mean come on!!!
but if you look at the vid in my comment and fast forward to 7:15. its a quick scientific debunk of planet X claims. its history, and what we really know about it.

I think it would be obviously I was joking about the tin foil hats if you looked =/

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Parvati — GMT

I did.
I am not trying to have an arguement with you.
You clarified that it was sarcasm.
I explained you why it didn't go down well with me.
No point to argue about it.
Trust me, its not worth it to have any arguement about this.
You made a joke and I choked on it. You clarified it and thats the end of it :) no worries :)

The population cap was promoted by Sunyavadin.

(not that you could have known this, but I've been into the rabbit hole for more then 30 years now. And the tin foil hat is the one thing that keeps being brought up to discredit any reasonable discusion about anything somewhat related to it. Its an insult that has been thrown at me a lot. Thats why I choked on it. Its not your fault. You clarified it was sarcam. So we are cool. Sorry if I have upset you.)

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Serbius — GMT

Who knows either way... Guess we'll find out in 2012, just like we did in 2003 :P

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Sunyavadin — GMT

[quote=Parvati]I am sorry, but you have no idea what you are talking about if you actually think that a population cap based on etnic groups is a viable strategy. To maintain the gene pool :roll:. You may think what you are saying is wise.

But I would call that slightly dangerous.
Even quite racist.[/quote]

Quite the opposite.

China currently uses one where all ethnic groups are treated as one in order to carry out state-sponsored genocide.

(Woo! I just got this post blacklisted from internet searches in China!)

Population caps are necessary, it's that simple. However if you just initiate a blanket cap, then smaller ethnic groups will suffer from the limits on reproduction, their populations getting smaller by the same percentage as the largest ethnic group (Let's say, HAN CHINESE) and as a result, by the time the overall population is reduced to a stable, supportable level - you've conveniently eliminated all the smallest racial groups (And can lay claim to their lands as yours, even if you invaded them, because only your people populate them).

It's racist to NOT take the size of different ethnic groups into account when initiating a population control system.

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Parvati — GMT

You are making the mistake to assume we even need a population control system.

Who will come up with the rules?
Who will enforce the rules?

I can not agree with any population control system.
Do you honestly believe that the problems we are in today are because of the amount of people? Not really.
Its more a distribution problem.
Also it is easy to talk about a population cap if you live in a relativly wealthy country.

I am sorry. To me it smells of fascism. Even if your intent is to solve some current problems. No good can come of any form of implementation of a population cap.

I am not some child that is not aware of what you are talking about. Personaly I don't see much difference between a population cap and genocide. Sure, different methods but the outcome is the same. Will you decide who can have a child and who can not?

After reading up on you, I think we are not compatible on a philosophical level.
You seem to genuinly believe what you are saying, so I'll respect that in the same way I feel it is any mans given right to believe whatever they want. Unfortenatly history has a tendency to repeat itself so I am quite sure you will see the error in your reasoning.

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dashp — GMT

I KNOW HOW TO FIND NIBIRU IN SPORE!!!

All you have to do is:

1) Go on Youtube
2) Find a Spore video (any)
3) Repeat step 2 until you get Rick Rolled
4) Board a transport for Caprica
5) Go straight into a training montage
6) Keep on, Keep on, Keep on Dancin
7) Find purpose
8) Follow your dreams
9) Turn right where you started
10) Go too far
11) Go down easy
12) Dive into a relationship headfirst
13) Be there
14) Get left
15) Stay the course
16) Continue talking about your problems and doing nothing about them
17) Go under the knife
18) Go straight into the light

And THAT'S how you get to Nibiru

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covillcreatures — GMT

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nightmeare — GMT

who are the 13 who said that the planet will destroy us? and BTW if this will happen 2012 the planet should be visible, practically like the sun, and aliens, for crying out loud, they DO exist that i am 99% sure, we have a huge universe and being the only planet with life, yea right
But if aliens were in the same solar system as us and they should be an advanced civilization scientists would probably report UFO sitings, just another myth alike big foot and the loch ness monster
does anyone agree with me?

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Sunyavadin — GMT

[quote=dashp]

1) Go on Youtube
2) Find a Spore video (any)
3) Repeat step 2 until you get Rick Rolled[/quote]

THIS.

But you missed the steps: ????? and PROFIT

[quote=Parvati] No good can come of any form of implementation of a population cap.[/quote]

No good can come of NOT implementing one.

This is how a pathogen left unchecked inevitably kills its host.

Also, I'm sorry about any philosophical conflict we may have. And you may be pleased to know that at least my work will help raise the sustainability of our species' out of control population, through engineering better yields in our food supply, and systems for producing the resources we require using genetically modified bacteria for increased efficiency...
(Don't worry, no Soylent Green, hehe)

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Ian1732 — GMT

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, anyone?

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Ian1732 — GMT

[quote=dashp]I KNOW HOW TO FIND NIBIRU IN SPORE!!!

All you have to do is:

1) Go on Youtube
2) Find a Spore video (any)
3) Repeat step 2 until you get Rick Rolled
4) Board a transport for Caprica
5) Go straight into a training montage
6) Keep on, Keep on, Keep on Dancin
7) Find purpose
8) Follow your dreams
9) Turn right where you started
10) Go too far
11) Go down easy
12) Dive into a relationship headfirst
13) Be there
14) Get left
15) Stay the course
16) Continue talking about your problems and doing nothing about them
17) Go under the knife
18) Go straight into the light

And THAT'S how you get to Nibiru[/quote]

I believe you forgot the steps
19)????
20)PROFIT!!!!

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behemoth85 — GMT

[quote=Jiman]2012 is the end of the world year.

Their are MULTIPLE accounts where 2012 is the end of the world.

2012 is when the Aztec calender suddendly stops working.[/quote]
simple answer, they got bored, and didn't finish the creations. also, the year goes, firts cycle, second cycle, third cyccle, rinse repeat

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=Sunyavadin]
Also, I'm sorry about any philosophical conflict we may have. And you may be pleased to know that at least my work will help raise the sustainability of our species' out of control population, through engineering better yields in our food supply, and systems for producing the resources we require using genetically modified bacteria for increased efficiency...
(Don't worry, no Soylent Green, hehe)[/quote]

No that doesn't make me feel better.
But thats not your fault.
It would be arrogant from both of us to assume we hold the definite solution.
I am happy you do not plan on introducing soylent green :wink:

But I honestly don't think that the solution is in these methods.
But if you come up with GMO's that leave the rest of the flora alone please let me know.
I still have nightmares over the GM kool flower was it? in canada that is succesfully destroying the real unmodified version of it.
Or what about Monsanto and India? They have succesfully copyrighted rice strands, thus making it impossible for local farmers to survive. Copyrighting rice :roll: Our rice was doing just fine. But that rice is still destroying indegenous strands of rice. All in the name of increasing crop yields. If we keep this up we wont have anything left to yield.

It is because of these kind of policies that I know that population control can not work.
(Not attacking you of course, just an informative discusion :) )

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ESPEE — GMT

The so called "Nibiru" does not exist. The tenth planet is a satelite, the largest of them. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/136199_Eris[/url](see here) So, the 10th planet the egiptians saw is actually this, people call it "Erix" and hesn't aproached earth. In conclusion, "Nibiru" is called Eris and has a unchanged orbit. It has never ever even aproached earth...

Edit:
"Nibiru" has a orbit of 2400km while earth has 12000 km. If it crushes earth, it may make a new mountain or make a new continent, if it lands in a ocean, so don't worry. Also Eris' orbit does not cross earth's orbit. It's smaller then Pluto so don't worry.

All I agree is that the end of the world will be in 2012. Panic back...

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lordofthunder — GMT

looks like i'm behind with my actual solarsystem knowledge so i've been playing around with the Celestia program

more info about eris: (according to this eris is larger than pluto btw, if it's still up to date)
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/index.html

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=lordofthunder]looks like i'm behind with my actual solarsystem knowledge so i've been playing around with the Celestia program

more info about eris: (according to this eris is larger than pluto btw, if it's still up to date)
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/index.html[/quote]

The main idea is that what he calls "Nibiru" has a stabil orbit and is no threat to us. I doubt such a cold planet can have life, especially reptiles.

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Parvati — GMT

[quote=ESPEE]*snip*[/quote]

Not that I believe in Niburu.
But it goes back to the Sumerians as most of this stuff.

In case you thougt it was the Egyptians that first mentioned it.

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lordofthunder — GMT

[quote=ESPEE]
The main idea is that what he calls "Nibiru" has a stabil orbit and is no threat to us. I doubt such a cold planet can have life, especially reptiles.[/quote]

i merely provided another scientific source of information about Eris for the ones interested.
it would be impossible for any life as we know it to survive on a planet with such an orbit as described in the theory.

Eris for example has an even less eliptic orbit than described in this theory but to as for the 'living' conditions: a quote from the link to the site of the discoverers i provided.
"...In 280 years the planet will be the closest it ever gets -- a factor of almost 2.6 times closer. The absolute temperature on the planet will rise over the next 280 years by a factor of 1.6 (which is the square root of 2.6). The current temperature of (a quite cold) 405 degrees below zero will be but a distant memory at this point when the temperatures will be a balmy 360 degrees below zero...." (here with the official tag 2003UB313)

[URL=http://img528.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lonlyyg3.jpg][IMG]http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5794/lonlyyg3.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

the interesting thing is (remains of?) the unknown planet Nubiru are described to have (had?) a very deviant orbit passing between Jupiter and Mars.
now if astronomers can find at least 64 satelites around jupiter (most interesting: 4 large moons), 2 moons around mars and are even discovering objects smaller than 10 km in the kuiper asteroid belt (were also Pluto and Eris pass) then it's very unlike something as large as a planet or the remains of one wouldn't have been spotted yet when they're only 4 years away from us. a meteor striking us without having spotted it? that's possible because nobody has discovered them all yet but we're talking about something much bigger. it's also not clear where they get that detailed info in the first place. while that wall art depicting an extra planet is certainly intriguing it doesn't provide detailed information. it could even be more a symbolic religious thing than a depiction of their actual knowledge at the time.

i find the ancient tales from the touareg that they're originating from Sirius B more intriguing than this whole reptile and cover up theory to be honest. even satanism appears in the end. the one who invented this stuff clearly knew what he was doing: take a few fantasies and indications which [u]appear[/u] to have some scientific value, mix it with a cover up and doom scenario and some are always willing to believe it. i bet he's laughing his pants of right now. i also bet he could write a brilliant 'twilight' episode :lol:

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PenguinKid — GMT

[quote=Jiman]2012 is the end of the world year.

Their are MULTIPLE accounts where 2012 is the end of the world.

2012 is when the Aztec calender suddendly stops working.[/quote]

The only reason the Aztecs stopped making their calendar at 2012 was because they were lazy or they just got tired of making more years for their calendar.

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PenguinKid — GMT

Nibiru does not exist, or poses no threat, because if it did, NASA would be telling us, or would have already done something top secret to stop it from killing us. NASA probably would tell us that "There is an object that could possibly collide with Earth and we shouldn't panic" because they would be launching an unmanned spacecraft that would hit Nibiru and change its course. So I do not believe in Nibiru 2012 Doomsday. But I will do a project 2012 in SPORE that involves hitting a planet with lots of asteroids.

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sfw12345 — GMT

To me, this seems like a load of garbage. It's just some planet mentioned in the Babylonian poem 'Enûma Eliš' and is usually accepted as being Jupiter.

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Aweirdgamer — GMT

* Didn't read most of this *

I said it before, and I'll say it again:

"WHY does it have to be the end of the world OR nothing at all?!"

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sfw12345 — GMT

True. There's always the possibility of a mass but not total extinction

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=PenguinKid]Nibiru does not exist, or poses no threat, because if it did, NASA would be telling us, or would have already done something top secret to stop it from killing us. NASA probably would tell us that "There is an object that could possibly collide with Earth and we shouldn't panic" because they would be launching an unmanned spacecraft that would hit Nibiru and change its course. So I do not believe in Nibiru 2012 Doomsday. But I will do a project 2012 in SPORE that involves hitting a planet with lots of asteroids.[/quote]

Actually, NASA whould not tell us to prevent global panic. Anyway, Erix moved a small distance in the years it was discovered, why would it change speed from 3500km/s wich is 8% of the light speed to a higher speed? It may take another 100 years for it to reach the earth.

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PenguinKid — GMT

[quote=ESPEE][quote=PenguinKid]Nibiru does not exist, or poses no threat, because if it did, NASA would be telling us, or would have already done something top secret to stop it from killing us. NASA probably would tell us that "There is an object that could possibly collide with Earth and we shouldn't panic" because they would be launching an unmanned spacecraft that would hit Nibiru and change its course. So I do not believe in Nibiru 2012 Doomsday. But I will do a project 2012 in SPORE that involves hitting a planet with lots of asteroids.[/quote]

Actually, NASA whould not tell us to prevent global panic. Anyway, Erix moved a small distance in the years it was discovered, why would it change speed from 3500km/s wich is 8% of the light speed to a higher speed? It may take another 100 years for it to reach the earth.[/quote]

Or maybe NASA has been trying to tell us, but the government always does something to stop them. Hopefully, our next president will not be ignorant, idiotic, or feeling the need to keep all citizens from knowing the TRUTH!!!

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Clstirens — GMT

Anybody actually watching these videos and getting very STRONG conspiracy vibes?

I mean, some of them are formatted (the way the text scrolls) in a way that almost seems directed at brainwashing individuals. On top of that, others are worded in a way that basically says, only the smart kids believe in nibiru, are YOU a smart kid?

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joejoebob — GMT

[quote=PenguinKid][quote=ESPEE][quote=PenguinKid]Nibiru does not exist, or poses no threat, because if it did, NASA would be telling us, or would have already done something top secret to stop it from killing us. NASA probably would tell us that "There is an object that could possibly collide with Earth and we shouldn't panic" because they would be launching an unmanned spacecraft that would hit Nibiru and change its course. So I do not believe in Nibiru 2012 Doomsday. But I will do a project 2012 in SPORE that involves hitting a planet with lots of asteroids.[/quote]

Actually, NASA whould not tell us to prevent global panic. Anyway, Erix moved a small distance in the years it was discovered, why would it change speed from 3500km/s wich is 8% of the light speed to a higher speed? It may take another 100 years for it to reach the earth.[/quote]

Or maybe NASA has been trying to tell us, but the government always does something to stop them. Hopefully, our next president will not be [u]ignorant, idiotic, or feeling the need to keep all citizens from knowing the TRUTH!!![/u][/quote]i wish the same for its citizens

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Destroyers414 — GMT

I know this is kinda odd, but I just wanna say my brother is going to be 7, the number of God, on December 21, 2012. Funny coincidence, eh?

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Jackuul — GMT

Eris has a moon.

Also, for that 'wouldn't we have discovered it by now' argument? The fact we just discovered the moon is proof that things take time. Perhaps the years are off by a few hundred. I mean, geologically speaking an elliptical orbit of l3,750 years is pretty darn short. But to us humans, that's about 150 generations (counting a generation as every 25 years, as the usual age of having children is about that). Come to think of it... our modern society took 2-4,000 generations to reach this current state (50,000-100,000 years) and since 6,000 B.C. there have been about 240 generations.

We're not all that old if you look at it.

Anyways, there could be a super-massive planet out there as large as Jupiter just sitting around way out of the way toward the edge of the sun's gravitational pull for all we know.

My theory is that we should crash Saturn into Jupiter in about 4 billion years. Also Uranus, Neptune, and perhaps some random asteroids. I have no idea what this has to do with Nibiru, but if it can start critical mass we can create a mini-star after our own sun dies.

*cough*

Oh, right. About Nibiru - the possibility exists of an earth-sized object existing in an orbital path we may not be expecting at all. Although unlikely, extreme orbits can be possible with a little magic from our friend the SUPER MASSIVE ASTEROID. The SMA is like Jerome Bettis of the Solar System. It's the bus with no breaks, and if you're in its way, you might get flung around.

What if the orbit of this lovely little smashling that has the same or near same mass of earth is similar in composition, with enough radioactive decay like ours to generate inner heat? Secondly, what if this little crumb of the galaxy wasn't circling the sun like the rest of us, but was taking a wildly angled path - as if it had way too much to drink (or was smashed about by Jerome).

Imagine, half its orbit it is going in the direction we consider "up" (north) and the other half its going down (south) in such a quacked orbit that we'd never think to look up or down to find it. Gravity would eventually need to contend with it, for being so strange, but at 4.5 billion I think it would still be possible. Look at Mercury and Pluto - they're certainly not following the uniform plane.

Anyways, I say we kill it with fire if it exists.

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Smiltle King — GMT

Nibiru is Eris, has a constant orbit and no life. It's just a planet. Why do we fear it??? Why don't we fear Sun? It might over heat the earth, making it like Pluto. A lifeless sphere flying in the Space...

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Jordan90 — GMT

It does exist and it will kill us all...

That is if the LHC particle accelorator doesnt kill us first.... :mrgreen:

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=Smiltle King]Nibiru is Eris, has a constant orbit and no life. It's just a planet. Why do we fear it??? Why don't we fear Sun? It might over heat the earth, making it like Pluto. A lifeless sphere flying in the Space...[/quote]

Incorrect.

Nibiru is supposedly near the same size as Earth.

Eris < Earth

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=Jordan90]It does exist and it will kill us all...

That is if the LHC particle accelorator doesnt kill us first.... :mrgreen:[/quote]

The particle accelerator had a chinese quality. It cracked after first use.

Ps. Nibiru does not exist. It is just like black holes, a imaginary object that humans fear. There are more chances for the earth to break into two halves than to be crashed by a orbit less, but obliviously with life, wich is teoretically impossible, planet bigger as Neptune.

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PenguinKid — GMT

[quote=Sunyavadin]Everyone laughs now, but when the tenth planet arrives, and we're suddenly being invaded by Cybermen - WHO'LL BE LAUGHING THEN?

....except of course The Doctor.[/quote]

Great to see another Doctor Who fan here! But if there were Cybermen involved in this theory, wouldn't the "tenth planet" be called Mondas instead of Nibiru?

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CopperWolf — GMT

[quote=PenguinKid][quote=Sunyavadin]Everyone laughs now, but when the tenth planet arrives, and we're suddenly being invaded by Cybermen - WHO'LL BE LAUGHING THEN?

....except of course The Doctor.[/quote]

Great to see another Doctor Who fan here! But if there were Cybermen involved in this theory, wouldn't the "tenth planet" be called Mondas instead of Nibiru?[/quote]

The Doctor.... I've been trying to steal his Tardis.

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DracoKing28 — GMT

I am sick of this doomsday theory. just another stupid scare like Y2K :evil:

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LordMeakin — GMT

[IMG]http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr45/LordMeakin/Copy2ofpost-65-1178829852.jpg[/IMG]

relax! its all over soon

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Torbin — GMT

[quote=PenguinKid][quote=Jiman]2012 is the end of the world year.

Their are MULTIPLE accounts where 2012 is the end of the world.

2012 is when the Aztec calender suddendly stops working.[/quote]

The only reason the Aztecs stopped making their calendar at 2012 was because they were lazy or they just got tired of making more years for their calendar.[/quote]

The Mayan Calendar is the one that stops at 2012, not the Aztec. And the Mayan calendar is not the same as your easy to read Augustine calendar than modern civilization clings to. The Mayan calendars are a amazingly accurate mathematical time line. The Tzolkin and Haab' both together explain a Mayans full life cycle, birth to death. Then you have the Venus Cycle, the Lunar Series... the Maya were living calculators.

But the whole December 21, 2012 crap is false. The calendar doesn't "stop working" and they weren't too lazy to continue. December 21, 2012 is the next absolute Wayeb' (where all of their calendars turn)

Wayeb' is a very short (5-20 days depending on the calendar) period which the Maya believed to be unholy, but [b]not[/b] apocalyptic. To the Maya, Wayeb' was a period where the protective energies the kept the underworld from pervading life was the weakest. If you were left outside, especially at night, it was assumed you would die and never be granted passage to the afterlife. But it isn't permanent... it has happened before (350 years ago? I may be off by a little), and guess what; nothing apocalyptic has happened yet.

Go tell a Mayan that the end of the world is coming in 2012... I bet they'd cut your tongue (okay, not really. Maya are too loving... they'll just hug you and tell you to continue going about your simple life)

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ESPEE — GMT

This thread is a SPORE. Nibiru is the same as gigants. Human fear(ed) it but they/it never actually existed.

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DracoKing28 — GMT

Please stop bumping this thread. :x

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=DracoKing28]Please stop bumping this thread. :x[/quote]

>.>

<.<

Bumps

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ESPEE — GMT

[img]http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/zzzzlllloooo07.jpg[/img]

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LordMeakin — GMT

[quote=ESPEE][img]http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/zzzzlllloooo07.jpg[/img][/quote]
Good One! but my Relax ''its all over soon'' is better :wink:

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ESPEE — GMT

If you say...

Anyway, does anyone here think Nibiru exists?

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PenguinKid — GMT

[quote=driniddle]Nibiru is [i]not real[/i], at least not in the 2012 sense. If anything comes close to earth in 2012 people will claim it is nibiru, but all current calculations say nothing will come close to Earth until 2029 with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis#Close_approaches]99942 Apophis[/url], and even then it's not projected to hit.

The only way it will hit us is if it goes through what's known as a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_keyhole]Gravitational Keyhole[/url], which would then make it hit us on 2036, and even then the chance that it will is extremely low. However, scientists are working on several methods to repel it, such as wrapping one side of the rock in a highly reflective material, turning it into a solar sail or sorts (say that three times fast).

The things I mentioned actually have real physics and math calculations behind them, with scientific evidence, which means a hell of a lot. A calender ending (don't calenders just flip back when they end?) and some old texts that make predictions based on superstitions, mythology, astrology, and all other nonsense do not.[/quote]

OMG if 99942 Apophis hits Earth, there is a possibility of an IMPACT WINTER!!!! An impact winter is similar to nuclear winter, but there may or may not be radioactive waste flying everywhere.

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=PenguinKid][quote=driniddle]Nibiru is [i]not real[/i], at least not in the 2012 sense. If anything comes close to earth in 2012 people will claim it is nibiru, but all current calculations say nothing will come close to Earth until 2029 with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis#Close_approaches]99942 Apophis[/url], and even then it's not projected to hit.

The only way it will hit us is if it goes through what's known as a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_keyhole]Gravitational Keyhole[/url], which would then make it hit us on 2036, and even then the chance that it will is extremely low. However, scientists are working on several methods to repel it, such as wrapping one side of the rock in a highly reflective material, turning it into a solar sail or sorts (say that three times fast).

The things I mentioned actually have real physics and math calculations behind them, with scientific evidence, which means a hell of a lot. A calender ending (don't calenders just flip back when they end?) and some old texts that make predictions based on superstitions, mythology, astrology, and all other nonsense do not.[/quote]

OMG if 99942 Apophis hits Earth, there is a possibility of an IMPACT WINTER!!!! An impact winter is similar to nuclear winter, but there may or may not be radioactive waste flying everywhere.[/quote]

Nah. A nuke will turn it into a meteor storm. Not as distructive a s it for terra, but might highly affect cities and the surface. But if the zone is evaquated nothing will happen.

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PenguinKid — GMT

[quote=ESPEE][quote=PenguinKid][quote=driniddle]Nibiru is [i]not real[/i], at least not in the 2012 sense. If anything comes close to earth in 2012 people will claim it is nibiru, but all current calculations say nothing will come close to Earth until 2029 with [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis#Close_approaches]99942 Apophis[/url], and even then it's not projected to hit.

The only way it will hit us is if it goes through what's known as a [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_keyhole]Gravitational Keyhole[/url], which would then make it hit us on 2036, and even then the chance that it will is extremely low. However, scientists are working on several methods to repel it, such as wrapping one side of the rock in a highly reflective material, turning it into a solar sail or sorts (say that three times fast).

The things I mentioned actually have real physics and math calculations behind them, with scientific evidence, which means a hell of a lot. A calender ending (don't calenders just flip back when they end?) and some old texts that make predictions based on superstitions, mythology, astrology, and all other nonsense do not.[/quote]

OMG if 99942 Apophis hits Earth, there is a possibility of an IMPACT WINTER!!!! An impact winter is similar to nuclear winter, but there may or may not be radioactive waste flying everywhere.[/quote]

Nah. A nuke will turn it into a meteor storm. Not as distructive a s it for terra, but might highly affect cities and the surface. But if the zone is evaquated nothing will happen.[/quote]

The nuke caused meteor storm would most likely also include massive chunks of radioactive garbage. And now that you mentioned nukes, an impact winter is looking a whole lot better than the meteor storm full of nuke chunks...

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ESPEE — GMT

You know, maybe this is destinied to be like this. This is how the second ace age will begin.
But what if the earth will be behind the sun at the impact? Nothing will happen. Maybe the meteorite will miss the earth or hit another planet. There is 10% chances to hit earth.

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fivex1 — GMT

It with eventualy hit mars, then earth.
EDIT:
Actuly, it will leave our solar system in a few billion/million years. But it's orbit started moving in my Solar system simulater, it them caused mercury to fly out of the solar system. Veneus'es orbit started to move, then Nirabu Flew out of the system, causing earth's orbit to start moving aswell. but for some reason Nirabu wasn't lost bye the gravity, it took a couple thousand years to get back in the solar system, and caused mars'es orbit to start moving, and nirabu flew into the sun, then, a couple billion years later, Mars, Earth, and Venus colided and flew out of the solar system, causing the other discovered planets orbit's to start moving, getting them in the same gravity line, and pluto flying out. billion years later pluto came back, hit them, and they all flew out of the solar system.

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phaolm — GMT

its hard to be looking as an aspie in at this conversation.

Here are some facts to consider.

1. The largest possible orbital periodicities are in the hundreds of thousands of years.
2. A ten thousand year orbital periodicity at the longest stretch would still be well recorded in multiple
cultres and correlating dates.
3. Niburu is an exotic and esoteric pure new age interpretation gobbledygook of a merely mythological
concept. Askign wether r not nibru exists is like asking if unicorns exist. Of course unicorns DO EXIST:
entirely inside A. our mythologiies and B. i that the unvierse is so large life and random chance probably built
one somewhere.

In the case of nibiru, you have a great symbol and place holder for quarter mystical systems which try to organize the universe into sets of properties and values and polarities and such. And thats great. Astrology is wonderful if you can appreciate it as art and know not to take is too seriously.

Assuming even that an undetected object such as nibiru did exist, it would have made thousands of orbits without
making a mark on earth.

Nibiru is a stupid and lame bunch of BS we don't need to distract us from the real problems;
shooting our oil pimps in the face, getting off of our oil addiction, getting ourselves into green energy,
stopping the propaganda wars, actually bringing science fact into politics, geothermal power, which
makes all the rest look silly in terms of long term cost and ecological footprint.

We need to panic now. About global warming and our decaying society. About a president whos a liar and a con artist and an utterly corrupt and evil man, about a tanking economy, about peak oil, about 90 worth of deeper oceans and 150 degree summers with super cell storms and winds upto 700 MPH.

Nibiru is a pleasant fiction to keep you fooled and distracted into talking about gibberish rather than talking about
and understanding and thus solving our real problems.

Wake from the matrix.

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TuefelHundenIV — GMT

yes on 2012, just like 01 01 00, I will get up, grab a bite to eat and some coffee, sniff the air and say yep. smells like the new millenium. seriously. you cant cal it the ed of the world any more than you can call the end of the chinese 12 year cycle. seriously.

next thing you know is people panic because they found out that every 32,000 years ( iacan't remmember all the details of this) polaris will not be the notrh star OMG the world as we know it is ending! Yellowstone's hotspot os a few thousand years overdue to explode. Might that not happen tomorrow maybe? OMG the hubris of man to think he can destroy the earth with "manmade" global warming. I think it is just bad timing. THey did not blame the dust bowl on global warming, and yet it was way worse than anything we see today.

So believe in chariots of the gods if you like, hats on the easter island statues, brought over by bird headed creatures from space. Believe the way stargate tells it or whatever. It could just be like the jungian collective unconciousness, remembering things as they were when our race was a tiny speck among giants.

um. so. . .as for the nibiru thing. . .grab your tin foil hats and stay away from power lines.

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taurenking176 — GMT

Im baptist and I don't believe this niburu stuff. BTW in the first vid the eye of sauron lol.

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PatTheWanderer — GMT

I guess we'll all just have to look up in the sky in May or June and see if Nibiru is real or not.

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Tutthoth — GMT

Nibiru doesn't exist. We should be worrying about Apophis who wants to blcok us from Ra's guiding rays and kill us!

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Havic13 — GMT

No no no, In 2012, there will be a mass terrorist who will make a lethal video that whoever watches it dies instatnly, i have found a non-lethal version of the video, this is it! The way the world ends!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2b1D5w82yU[/url]

P.s. This is only a joke. :mrgreen:

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Muffinette — GMT

I don't think that "theory" is at all probable. Much of it appears to be based on misinformation, scare tactics, and guessing. Recent years have had a lot of "end of the world" moments, huh? Remember 6/6/06? The Large Hadron Collider? People keep throwing hissy fits over these kinds of things, and it never amounts to anything.

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BigChiefMatt — GMT

Dude, 2012 is a lie, nothing will happen, people have been saying the world was going to end in 2000, were still here, people said it will end in June 6, 2006, WERE STILL HERE. Now what makes you think the world is going to end in 2012? I mean yeah, the Mayans predicted it, so what? They got killed my the conquestidors, if they could predict when the world was going to end how come they couldn't predict when THEY would end? I say you shouldn't worry about 2012, nothing will happen.

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DracoKing28 — GMT

Theres nothing to worry about Apophis either. If the thing actually does hit us

(270 M is only enough to destroy an area 3x Britian) it won't have much effect.

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EvOlUtIoN001 — GMT

[quote=ere4s3r]Wellllll

Planets can only move so fast before the fall apart (our planet speeds are well within limits)
Planets are huge, if it DOES exist within the solar system, we'd see it... (and if it does, we have technology to save us, maybe)

Basicly, i dont think it exists ^^[/quote] no we wouldn't see it simply because of its Orbit, Nibiru has an 3600 year rotation around our sun, supposedly when it returns to the System it will pass somewhere between Earth and Jupiter(which will throw off the Gravity in our System like crazy. but anyway we wont see it until it gets close enough, right now they only thing it would look like on first glance would be a far off Asteroid.

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EvOlUtIoN001 — GMT

[quote=DracoKing28]Theres nothing to worry about Apophis either. If the thing actually does hit us

(270 M is only enough to destroy an area 3x Britian) it won't have much effect.[/quote]]

hahahahahahahahaha, thats all it takes dude, Apophis is moving thousands of mile per second. if it comes smashing down on Earth it will be about the same as 1000 nukes going off in one place.
the resulting blanket of Dust and debris will cover the Earth in blackness for years after the Asteroid hit. that means no plants, and no plants means no animals,No animals and plants means the death of the Human race.

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Elvisdogs — GMT

What ever

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Pyjamaman — GMT

i read a book like that once. its very complicated so ill go through the back story first. highly advanced aliens from planet niberu (with is the twelth planet not the tenth btw) their planet only orbits every 3000 years and live on average and live on average 80 of their years so a long time by our standerds. their planet had a thick atmosphere of gold particles that kept the heat in. a therible war destroyed this atmosphere so they came to earth to mine gold. the nuberians got fed up of minig so they created a nuberian/ape crossbread wich is why scientists cant fin a link between humans and apes. theses people had limited intelegens so they couldent challenge their overlords. wich needs another tedious back story. the whole univers is a dream and we dream it. so if you belive you are a loser you will become one. and the whole consept of "reality" is a cover over the dream. if you can break through this layer you can shape reality. kinda like windows on a computer. reality is acolective dream where the consiousness of others combines to creat so we all dream the same dream. words are the foundation of counsiosness. as we think we think in word for example you may not saying it but you are thinking "what the hell has this got to do with spore" well thats what im thinking anyway. lss to limit a creaturs words is to limit their reasning. average humans know 10,000+ words, dolphins and chims can be tought 2,000 words. (in a unrelated topic, tribes in the jungle and arctic used to be able to comunicate to chimps and dolphins but this knoledge has been long lost) parots can learn 100 words and dogs 10. (hmm eat sleep poo t walkies bark at cars pee on neighbors lawn) the aliens limited the words the early humans understood. after the nuberians got all the gold they needed they were going to take the humans all back to niberu with them to use as servents but a group of nuberians disegreed and recreated humans so they could create their own languages. suddenly they invented their own words for everything wich is all well and good but with each of them having their own languge they could no longer communicate with each other or with their masters so the nuberians lef them on earth. though soon mothers tought their childeren their own languge and then their granchildren. these family groups grew and took over other groups soon tribes, then civilisations grew. with the proces always excelrating. the nuberians became very scared in as little as 2 or 3 of their years, humans had civilised and were very close to chalenging them so they stoped time using their superior teachnology so they could gather all the people up and use them as slaves. the rest of the story is irrelevent. basicly a bunch of kids who were imune to the time stop because they were related to nuberians saved the day. you can download a copy free at www.maxquikseries.com/ at first i thought it was nothing more than a story but it kept playing on my mind and other books movies followed the same patttern like the matrix and jumper and the whole idea of scientology untill it became to obvious to ignore. i belive parts of the story like the whole dreamtime bit but not the part about nuberu. the dreamtime theory can be proven everywhere (like how u guy know about nuberu if u never read the book) so i ques the answer is i dont belive nuberu will destroy the world and so i dont know why i even botherd writing this. sorry for wasting 15 minutes of time for anybody reading

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Tentacle — GMT

Actually, apparently, it'll kill us in 2010, as that's when the Mayan calendar abruptly ends. It's just ANOTHER WAY TO DA-HIIIEE da da DA DA DAADADA DAA DA DAAAAAA

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DarkPlasma — GMT

[quote=EvOlUtIoN001]no we wouldn't see it simply because of its Orbit, Nibiru has an 3600 year rotation around our sun, supposedly when it returns to the System it will pass somewhere between Earth and Jupiter(which will throw off the Gravity in our System like crazy. but anyway we wont see it until it gets close enough, right now they only thing it would look like on first glance would be a far off Asteroid.[/quote]
Soo... a planet that's presumably moving very slow relative to other planets here will go from really far off to ridiculously close by in a 3-year span?

*facepalm*

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Puppysworld13 — GMT

the mayans don't predict the end of everything at in 2012 they only restart their calander we do this every year and the world doesn't end when our calander does we just add one single number to it however the mayan calander is based on stare posions in 2012 they predicted all start will be in 1 single line so a good time to restart

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PenguinKid — GMT

Actually, according to Wikipedia, Nibiru isn't a planet. It's a spaceship. The planet it came from is apparently called Rizq.

[quote]Rizq was home to the Anunnaqi Eloheem, who came to earth and played a role in the creation of humans, who represent them in various ways in their mythologies.

These Anunnaqi Eloheem came from Rizq to Earth to find gold and other resources for Rizq. Rizq had been attacked in the course of a galactic civil war, and had lost its protective ozone layer, and so needed gold to construct a dome to protect its inhabitants from intense solar radiation.

They had 30-mile-long transport ships that they constructed relatively locally on Mars and the dark side of the Moon, and a planet-sized ship called “Nibiru”, two-or-three times the size of the Earth, which is capable of light-speed travel.

These Rizqiyians first stopped at a planet called Kesiyl in the Orion constellation, where they were attacked by Reptilians. Then they sent out android scouts to find a gold-rich planet, Earth. They set up bases on the Moon and on Mars (the Martian canals were said to have been built then), and began to extract gold to send back to Rizq.
[/quote]

Not that I believe any of this crap. It's almost certainly a lie. But if Nibiru is in fact a spaceship, and it can travel at light speed, and it does exist, we'll see it sometime in 2012. Come on, do a little research before you post stuff like this. Here's what we'll be saying when we see a large object headed for Earth at a terrifying speed:
That's not a planet...it's a SPACE STATION!!!!! Wait, it's a spaceship. SPACESHIP?!?!?!"

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pigsfly — GMT

Aliens dont exist. NOT! They are everywhere! As for that spaceship thing....and 2012....and something about a meteor....RUN!!!!!!!!!!!! I have an idea! PANIC!!!!! Plan of 2012 survival=build a spaceship, colonize Mars, terraform Mars, NOT the Moon. I dont want Earth debris flying in my face. Anyone agree?

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=pigsfly]Aliens dont exist. NOT! They are everywhere! As for that spaceship thing....and 2012....and something about a meteor....RUN!!!!!!!!!!!! I have an idea! PANIC!!!!! Plan of 2012 survival=build a spaceship, colonize Mars, terraform Mars, NOT the Moon. I dont want Earth debris flying in my face. Anyone agree?[/quote]

No.

You should all stand outside and stare at the sun after giving me all your money.

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lordofthunder — GMT

[quote=Jackuul][quote=pigsfly]Aliens dont exist. NOT! They are everywhere! As for that spaceship thing....and 2012....and something about a meteor....RUN!!!!!!!!!!!! I have an idea! PANIC!!!!! Plan of 2012 survival=build a spaceship, colonize Mars, terraform Mars, NOT the Moon. I dont want Earth debris flying in my face. Anyone agree?[/quote]

No.

You should all stand outside and stare at the sun after giving me all your money. [/quote]

funny i saw a television program once where some devotees were staring right into the sun and they believed to be seeing stars floating around an apparition of mother marry. i bet they did see stars :mrgreen: ps: don't try this at home if you value your vision.

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Jackuul — GMT

Burning your retinas is a great activity for all! Especially if it means you can never drive again! Makes the road safer for me at least.

And yes, give me your monies.

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Pyjamaman — GMT

how can u say aliens dont exsist when you havent looked everywhere. in in the universe there are about 1500 mapped galaxies each of them having 100,000 stars and if each of them have 10 planets like our solar system (or 8 planets and 2 dwarf planets according to mr burn my boring geography teacher) so thats

hmm let me thing . . .

o well alot anyway
unless you have been to all these places dont say aliens dont excist

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world_piece — GMT

Yeah, it's awfully arrogant to think aliens don't exist. We're not that special...

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PenguinKid — GMT

I was reading the book version of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in science class today, and when I got to the part when they reached the cave with all of the murals, I started thinking about what the Annunaki, IF THEY EXIST, might look like. I concluded that the "godlike beings" in the movie/book and the Annunaki might actually be the same species. Godlike beings arriving from space, teaching ancient cultures how to use technology WAY ahead of their time, sounds a lot like the Annunaki. The Annunaki would probably have those weirdly shaped skulls, and crystal skeletons.

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misterie — GMT

some quick notes (that was lot of reading)

one bit that leads me to question the rest:
masons did NOT come up with the great seal.
(look up the great seal, the committe, it's members, and the artist who had the chosen design)

the simulator: false data - the planet is said to be in a different star system, the simulator APPEARS to run placing it in ours.
(on page 2, I believe)

for all those who have issues with "ancient texts" (I had enough of those on the mensa boards) - just because ancients didn't know about trichonosis (sp) doesn't mean they had it wrong when they "preached" against eating animals with cloven hoofs.

The flood happened - regardless of what your religion (and treating "science" as a religion in this case, because objective - ie. real - science leads to the fact as stated) - Just because you may not have seen the wood in turkey, or don't believe in Gilgamesh or Noah, does not mean that it didn't.
(look up: gilgamesh, flood, ark, turkey, salt)

Mayans didn't create the calendar, folks, it was borrowed by them.
(look up: B'ak'tun, Long Count)

(the last is because I LOVE - no sarcasm in that - when people talk about the "mayans predicting doomsday" - the comment, in light of the truth, proves they are speaking their beliefs - their ideology or faith, if you prefer - rather than offering a reasoned response. I love it, because the lack of demonstrated insight on their part saves me a bunch of reading at that point)

- Misterie

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Jackuul — GMT

O'hai can I has nuke? I wants be am become death, destroyer of worlds!

Misspellings for the lulz.

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EvOlUtIoN001 — GMT

[quote=misterie]some quick notes (that was lot of reading)

one bit that leads me to question the rest:
masons did NOT come up with the great seal.
(look up the great seal, the committe, it's members, and the artist who had the chosen design)

the simulator: false data - the planet is said to be in a different star system, the simulator APPEARS to run placing it in ours.
(on page 2, I believe)

for all those who have issues with "ancient texts" (I had enough of those on the mensa boards) - just because ancients didn't know about trichonosis (sp) doesn't mean they had it wrong when they "preached" against eating animals with cloven hoofs.

The flood happened - regardless of what your religion (and treating "science" as a religion in this case, because objective - ie. real - science leads to the fact as stated) - Just because you may not have seen the wood in turkey, or don't believe in Gilgamesh or Noah, does not mean that it didn't.
(look up: gilgamesh, flood, ark, turkey, salt)

Mayans didn't create the calendar, folks, it was borrowed by them.
(look up: B'ak'tun, Long Count)

(the last is because I LOVE - no sarcasm in that - when people talk about the "mayans predicting doomsday" - the comment, in light of the truth, proves they are speaking their beliefs - their ideology or faith, if you prefer - rather than offering a reasoned response. I love it, because the lack of demonstrated insight on their part saves me a bunch of reading at that point)

- Misterie
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the Mayan may have not Created the calendar, however they did perfect it.

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EvOlUtIoN001 — GMT

[quote=PenguinKid]I was reading the book version of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in science class today, and when I got to the part when they reached the cave with all of the murals, I started thinking about what the Annunaki, IF THEY EXIST, might look like. I concluded that the "godlike beings" in the movie/book and the Annunaki might actually be the same species. Godlike beings arriving from space, teaching ancient cultures how to use technology WAY ahead of their time, sounds a lot like the Annunaki. The Annunaki would probably have those weirdly shaped skulls, and crystal skeletons.[/quote]

the Annunaki are supposed to be more reptilian in appearance, but i really don't buy that one at all. i dont claim to know what they look like but in my opinion they would look similar to us, since they may have evolved on a Carbon based planet. they wouldn't look exactly like us but i think they would be similar in some ways as far as physical appearance goes.

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PenguinKid — GMT

[quote=EvOlUtIoN001][quote=PenguinKid]I was reading the book version of Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull in science class today, and when I got to the part when they reached the cave with all of the murals, I started thinking about what the Annunaki, IF THEY EXIST, might look like. I concluded that the "godlike beings" in the movie/book and the Annunaki might actually be the same species. Godlike beings arriving from space, teaching ancient cultures how to use technology WAY ahead of their time, sounds a lot like the Annunaki. The Annunaki would probably have those weirdly shaped skulls, and crystal skeletons.[/quote]

the Annunaki are supposed to be more reptilian in appearance, but i really don't buy that one at all. i dont claim to know what they look like but in my opinion they would look similar to us, since they may have evolved on a Carbon based planet. they wouldn't look exactly like us but i think they would be similar in some ways as far as physical appearance goes. [/quote]

I was speculating. Besides, I don't believe it anyways. Indiana Jones ROCKZ!!!! Anyone wanna know why I think the Annunaki would look like the crystal skeleton beings? Because the guys with crystal skulls are powerful interdimensional beings, and I would guess that the Annunaki are too. Besides, I'm an Indiana Jones fan.

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StyleConformer — GMT

No, only if they evolved from primates. There might be entirely different groups and classifications from where they're from.

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Jackuul — GMT

Or they might be the predecessors of ancient reptilian mammal-like synapsids that caused the Permian-Triassic Extinction Event, and left earth in an exodus 250 million years ago.

Or maybe people are just morons?

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StyleConformer — GMT

The last part seems to be the most accurate.

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DracoKing28 — GMT

OK guys, stop saying the world ends and stop attempting to prove it will. this is ridiculous. You know that.

So what, maybe it will. So does that mean we spend these few years worrying and obbsessing over it? No. You know that, too.

December 21, 2012.

End of world 5.

Nothing to worry about! The last time this happened was back in 1618. anything happen back then? No. Nothing.

Even if the world is destroyed on 2012 at end of world 5. It all means that we come back in world 6. The world will be created again, and we all follow that cycle of life. That is, if the mayans are correct. This thing happens every 350 years or so, when they believe it is unsafe to go outside.

The next "end" is supposed to happen in 7100+, ending world 6 and beginning world 7. It gos on and on, and it's unlikely we will live that long to see it. Unless, scientists develop a way to cease aging.

Why cant we have a friendly discussion about life? the internet, and now even entire of Terra is consumed in this. It makes no point! even if there is a Nibiru or 9th planet, I doubt it will have any effect. Video proof, pictures, heck. It could all be photoshop. There is no way also that this event occurs in 2012.

I asked friends about the thing, and they laughed at me and said "Ha, do you actually believe in that? this "Nibiru is a joke! And how is it supposed to come in 2012? Seriously."

That's it. I dont care. you can blurt out your "science" and prophecies to try and get me to believe that time ends on the 21st. I'm leaving this thread.

Not even spore, the "game of evolution" says anything about it when we reach Sol. I'm done with this. And I hope it is never bumbed again. Stop PMing me too.

EDIT: plus, I'm sorry I bumped this again. stop PMing me. I'm serious now.

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StyleConformer — GMT

.....Why does it matter?

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PenguinKid — GMT

I don't even believe in Nibiru, or the end of the world. At least the end of the world on 12/21/12. The year 5000000000, that's when the world ends. Even science says so. That's when the sun expands to a point at which it goes beyond Earth's orbit. I hope you "the world will end" people are happy with what science says. Anyway, I was talking about how the Annunaki, IF they exist, are interdimensional beings. So we will never find out unless the LHC opens an interdimensional portal. Then we can panic. Or send nuclear weapons through the portal and blow up their homeworld.

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world_piece — GMT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke

This guy is weird. He believes reptilian humanoids are among us and employed in high ranking positions.

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StyleConformer — GMT

Who knows, maybe bush was an evil reptilian alien. A stupid one but still........

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PenguinKid — GMT

[quote=StyleConformer]Who knows, maybe bush was an evil reptilian alien. A stupid one but still........[/quote]
He ain't no Reptillian! What I mean is, he isn't a Reptillian. He's obviously a Stupidian.

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misterie — GMT

[quote=StyleConformer]Who knows, maybe bush was an evil reptilian alien. A stupid one but still........[/quote]

You know...

That would kind of explain that oddly straight-lined, thin mouth of his....

:D

- Misterie

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StyleConformer — GMT

It really did seem like he was trying to destroy us though....

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ESPEE — GMT

He says they don't want to destroy us. Their planet "will collide" ours.
Pffff! I don't belive that! If Eris whould approach us it whould be clearly visible. Anyway, it will not collide earth. Or, at least, not in 2012 (nor in this universe)
Eris is called the "crossover planet" because it crosses Saturn's, Neptune's and Pluto's orbit. Nothing to fear about it.
The closest point it will approach earth it will be between 2010-2012 when it will fly between Mars and Jupiter because of the gravitational atraction of Mercur and Saturn.
Earth will probably be destroyed because of Eris, but not collide Eris. Eris is the cause of global warming not only on earth. Pluto, Mars and other planets' temperature grew. It's thought that one of Eris' satelites made the asteroid belt. Anyway, NASA has sent a satelite on the asteroid belt and will anounce us if Eris comes too close to earth.

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StyleConformer — GMT

....Everybody knows we blow something up if it gets to close.

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=StyleConformer]....Everybody knows we blow something up if it gets to close.[/quote]

The awnser looks simple. Nothing is that simple.
If I may ask, how do you want us to blow up that planet?

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StyleConformer — GMT

Watch the movie arrmaggedon. Thats my plan.

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Mastermind69 — GMT

You really got some problems...I mean Chuck Norris is the ultimate living form, so why you care about this? Better pray you won't anger CHUCK NORRIS :lol:

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StyleConformer — GMT

WTF.

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ESPEE — GMT

Chack Norris iz doomb

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StyleConformer — GMT

you are a perfect example of humanity's future.

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Kylelolcat — GMT

this all is a fat load of bull in my opinion. Just a panic story because two people with internet access were bored.

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StyleConformer — GMT

exactly. ps. why did you abandon the divines kylelolcat? WHY?!

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Kylelolcat — GMT

OOC: oh, sorry. that had no new posts in a while.

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=StyleConformer]you are a perfect example of humanity's future.[/quote]
I know.

There are more religions who think Nibiru has some semnification.
Oh, and NIBIRU IS NOT ERIS.

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StyleConformer — GMT

All not-retards realize that.

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ESPEE — GMT

Ya.
SPORE [url=http://yowusa.com/]Here[/url]

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StyleConformer — GMT

I'm not accidentally spamming anymore! yay! (there is nothing to contribute right now so this isn't spam.)

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pigsfly — GMT

Of corse they exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember my type?

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=pigsfly]Of corse they exist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Remember my type?[/quote]
???

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YourSavior — GMT

They're making a Hollywood movie based (loosely) on it! How could it possibly be fake? :roll:

EDIT: whoever down-rated this has no sense of sarcasm.

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davidzwp — GMT

I don't normally post in the forums, but I just have to say that this "Planet X" could never exist. First of all, it would've been detected long ago by the orbit perturbations created by the immense mass that explains all of the miracles that it allegedlly created. NASA can detect planets around star systems light years away by looking at how the star's orbit wobbles from the influence of the planets.

Atlantis
There is no archaelogical evidence of the mythical city, and if it did exist, we would have found it already.

Noah's Ark
How do you know if it was true? Did the people of the time have enough technology and engineering experience to create such a big ark? Why aren't there more fossils of drowned species? It could just be a tall tale from a book that some happen to worship.

Climate Change in Egypt
Global Warming....regular temperature flucctuations....volcanoes and asteroids....

The Ice Ages
The Ice ages were caused when new mountain ranges were created by the collisions of plates, which caused lots of precipitation in the form of snow on the mountains. The snow was locked up, less water vapor was in the air, which cooled the earth (water vapor is in fact a greenhouse gas). Then the polar areas froze, and the globe was plunged into an ice age.
Besides, how would a big body make an ice age?

Rotational wobble and unstable magnetic pole
The earth wobbles because of the moon. A mars sized object crashed into the earth, which made the moon, and made the earth wobble. The moon stabilizes it, so it isn't as much.
Why the magnetic pole moves is not known, but according to the scientific community, it is highly unlikely that it was caused by an external force.

Water, Ice, and Life
Comets, comets, and lightning. Comets bring the water, lighting turns ammino acids into proteins. We have the right temperature, so the water is liquid.

Venus
Asteroids, or a planet sized collision. Not a giant object, or else the orbit would be elliptical.

Plutoids
If asteroids in the oort cloud collide, then they could be sent off in a different directions, so they would be in a seperate orbit. If Planet X was out there, then there would be no oort cloud, it would've gravitationally sucked it all up.

Death of the Dinosaurs
Ever heard of mass extinctions caused by asteroids? Check out the Yucatan Peninsula, that's where the crater is, it's giant.

Tectonic Plates
The earth has an active geological system. The heat generated inside by radioactive delay warms the inside, and the heat has to get out somehow, which is how the cracks developed.

Incidentally, all of this has scientific proof or support, and Planet X doesn't.

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piePIEpie — GMT

[quote=davidzwp]I don't normally post in the forums, but I just have to say that this "Planet X" could never exist. First of all, it would've been detected long ago by the orbit perturbations created by the immense mass that explains all of the miracles that it allegedlly created. NASA can detect planets around star systems light years away by looking at how the star's orbit wobbles from the influence of the planets.

Atlantis
There is no archaelogical evidence of the mythical city, and if it did exist, we would have found it already.

Noah's Ark
How do you know if it was true? Did the people of the time have enough technology and engineering experience to create such a big ark? Why aren't there more fossils of drowned species? It could just be a tall tale from a book that some happen to worship.

Climate Change in Egypt
Global Warming....regular temperature flucctuations....volcanoes and asteroids....

The Ice Ages
The Ice ages were caused when new mountain ranges were created by the collisions of plates, which caused lots of precipitation in the form of snow on the mountains. The snow was locked up, less water vapor was in the air, which cooled the earth (water vapor is in fact a greenhouse gas). Then the polar areas froze, and the globe was plunged into an ice age.
Besides, how would a big body make an ice age?

Rotational wobble and unstable magnetic pole
The earth wobbles because of the moon. A mars sized object crashed into the earth, which made the moon, and made the earth wobble. The moon stabilizes it, so it isn't as much.
Why the magnetic pole moves is not known, but according to the scientific community, it is highly unlikely that it was caused by an external force.

Water, Ice, and Life
Comets, comets, and lightning. Comets bring the water, lighting turns ammino acids into proteins. We have the right temperature, so the water is liquid.

Venus
Asteroids, or a planet sized collision. Not a giant object, or else the orbit would be elliptical.

Plutoids
If asteroids in the oort cloud collide, then they could be sent off in a different directions, so they would be in a seperate orbit. If Planet X was out there, then there would be no oort cloud, it would've gravitationally sucked it all up.

Death of the Dinosaurs
Ever heard of mass extinctions caused by asteroids? Check out the Yucatan Peninsula, that's where the crater is, it's giant.

Tectonic Plates
The earth has an active geological system. The heat generated inside by radioactive delay warms the inside, and the heat has to get out somehow, which is how the cracks developed.

Incidentally, all of this has scientific proof or support, and Planet X doesn't.

[/quote]

atlantis has been discoverid in greece

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Krazyklams — GMT

I say fail for the sheer fact that if it was a real planet in our system, then it would be our NINTH planet.

How can something be 10th if there is no 9th?

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ESPEE — GMT

I'll just ignore the last post wich is totally off topic.

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pigsfly — GMT

I agree with both of you. :|

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Pyjamaman — GMT

no atlantas is in se america. you are thinking of crete. and it was destroyed in the same volcano that caused a tsunami wich alowed moses to cross the red sea. but it is in a movie it must be true

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

[quote=Pyjamaman]no atlantas is in se america.[/quote]
Says an American, obviously.

[quote=Pyjamaman]you are thinking of crete. and it was destroyed in the same volcano that caused a tsunami wich alowed moses to cross the red sea. [/quote]
Crete happens to still be there. So is Santorini, which was the volcano that erupted. Oh yes and incidentally - that eruption was unlikely to have been the one allowing for that part of the Bible myth to occur. The dates are wrong by about 300 years. And both radiocarbon dating and Egyptian records can narrow those sorts of times down to within a few years.

[quote=Pyjamaman]but it is in a movie it must be true[/quote]
Or not. :roll:

EDIT: And whilst I'm on the subject, Atlantis was neither in Greece nor America. It was present in in the centre of the Atlantic Ocean. Read Plato's [i]Critias[/i] for more information.

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TheAngelofDeath — GMT

There is an Ark on Mt. Ararat, Muslims dont like people prodding into the idea though.
I wonder why they dont let people climb the mountain in Turkey...its like something is there that they dont want people see.
It is very curious.

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ESPEE — GMT

Maybe cuz they hate belivers in God. Thy're like Zealots, "We're the children of Mohamed (or which their god is), the other belivers are wrong(and must be destroyed)"

About Nibiru... THIS TOPIC MAKES NO SENCE. WHo's the SPORE who made this anyways?

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ShadowSeris — GMT

this is what we should do with all of those threats (Planet X,comets,astreiods,etc.)

[size=18]WE SHOULD BUILD A BIG GIANT CANNON AND BLOW THE HECK OUT OF THOSE THREATS![/size]

although i think the the debris would kill us :|

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FreakAboutSims — GMT

Everywhere I go on the internet I keep hearing about this so called planet. Seems as if it has died down for now, but everything shall come out of the blue once 2012 gets here. Even 2010 has been rumored to be the year that the United States splits apart into four sections. There are dozens and dozens of theories that involve this year and date.

However all of them have no relevant evidence when it comes to the most logical one. If the human race and all other life comes to an end in 2012. It will be because of the passing asteroid that may or may not hit us during this time. For this is the only thing that is getting me worried about this upcoming year.

Hopefully the world governments are working on a way to stop such a disaster. Do not concern yourself with religious beliefs and other such theories for there is almost no psychical evidence of those coming true. Instead worry of the space rock on it's trail to Earth, for this could become the end for us all...

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Joehtosis — GMT

I find this almost insulting... This is just... Wow.
This is no better than Scientology.

It's not so much about the whole Nibiru rogue planet thing. That may be true, I don't know.

But to suggest aliens came down, genetically altered our race into what it was and then gave us information as to how to make pyramids? O_o

Where is your evidence? Some man who dug up some "scrolls" and "translated" them into this. It's no better than what L. Ron Hubbard did. Wrote a fictional story and people took it too far.

And how do you explain how the Native American cultures made pyramids? How stone age celts constructed stone-henge? How about the many wonders scattered all over Asia? Humans. Are. Builders. We have art. We have shelter. You mix the two together and bam, you have a project that can be easily accomplished when ingenuity and commitment are used.

First of all, humans as a species did not genetically start in bronze age Egypt. By this time there were many peoples all over the world, from warring nomadic hunter gatherer tribes all over Norther Eurasia to the settled peoples of China, India and Sumer.

Genetically we did not come about from mutated Egyptians who would have had to spread at an impossible rate to distribute the genetics to call those, like myself, who happen to be of Irish decent, "human." That my friend is just an insult.

Secondly dragons and reptiles have always been viewed as the stuff of interest and legend in the world BECAUSE world wide there are reptiles and dragon like creatures. Alligators, Crocodiles, giant prehistoric monitors in Autstralia and venomous snakes that kill with one bite.

It's easy to be fascinated by such things, as a young child the only thing I wanted to do all day was draw dinosaurs and lizards. So does that mean I'm genetically programmed to worship such creatures? O_o No. We're inquisitive beings and reptiles are similar yet different to us. They're a good place to start for those that want to learn about something interesting.

Secondly, the human race has cow dieties, Gods that shoot lightning from their hands and all sorts of animals from tigers to birds as dieties. That's because culture SPREADS. Word does travel. One man may want to move to a new area and in that move he also brings his religion. It doesn't mean a bunch of Gods shooting lightning out of their hands riding cows, tigers and birds came down and got freaky with lizards and thus we're the product. (Although that sounds freaking fun to draw lol)

There is no factual evidence behind any of this.
Besides all that these so called lizard alien Gods would have died out by now. Complex life as we know it can not be sustained on a rogue planet that has no immediate and constant energy source.

I'd be faster to believe in the flying spaghetti monster than this.

"If you tell a big enough lie and you tell it long enough, people will believe it."
- Adolf H!tler
(I can't believe they censored H!tler... Lol)

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ESPEE — GMT

[quote=Joehtosis]And how do you explain how the Native American cultures made pyramids? How stone age celts constructed stone-henge? How about the many wonders scattered all over Asia? Humans. Are. Builders. We have art. We have shelter. You mix the two together and bam, you have a project that can be easily accomplished when ingenuity and commitment are used.[/quote]

I agree. It's called team work.

[quote=Joehtosis]First of all, humans as a species did not genetically start in bronze age Egypt. By this time there were many peoples all over the world, from warring nomadic hunter gatherer tribes all over Norther Eurasia to the settled peoples of China, India and Sumer.[/quote]

Yea. We do not have enaugh historical prooves to provide our provenience.

[quote=Joehtosis]It's easy to be fascinated by such things, as a young child the only thing I wanted to do all day was draw dinosaurs and lizards. So does that mean I'm genetically programmed to worship such creatures? O_o ...[/quote]

Makes sense...

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Foedawg — GMT

I say if any of Earth's countries contact aliens, the first would be Russia. They have to dip their hands into everyone's pockets. And everythings.

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th155 — GMT

some say Niribu is a planet, others say it's a star, some say it orbits our sun, some say it orbits it's own sun, so i say...

[size=24]FAKE[/size]

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davidzwp — GMT

I agree.
If the supporters of the Nibiru conspiracy theory can't even decide on what it exactly is, then it can't possibly be real because there is no evidence.

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ThatUberGuy — GMT

What I heard was that it was a moon of a jupiter-sized sun-like object that passed through the solar system. Then Nibiru hit a mars-sized planet and they both collided with earth or something...

Oh, here it is:

Sitchin's theory proposes the planets Tiamat and Nibiru. Tiamat supposedly existed between Mars and Jupiter. He postulated that it was a thriving world in a much differently shaped solar system, with jungles and oceans, whose orbit was disrupted by the arrival of a large planet or very small star (less than twenty times the size of Jupiter) which passed through the solar system between 65 million and four billion years ago. The new orbits caused Tiamat to collide with one of the moons of this object, which is known as Nibiru. The debris from this collision are thought by the theory's proponents to have variously formed the asteroid belt, the moon, and the current incarnation of the planet Earth.

I agree with what Davidzwp said, if the supporters cant even make up their minds then you know it's stupid.

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Ashloc — GMT

Isn't tiamat a goddess in Babylonian mythology ?

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SpoMax21 — GMT

This idea is just as crazy as any other idea that is crazy and an idea.

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Ashloc — GMT

agreed this topic and any other about 2012 shouldbe locked . It has nothingto do with spore and even less to do with science.

Anyone who believes in 2012 is sofa king we tod did!

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davidzwp — GMT

By the way, in my reading I came across some mass extinction theory that is a lot like Nibiru.
It's called the Nemesis theory. The Sun is allegedly in a binary system, with a gray dwarf. Every once in a while, it comes around the Oort cloud and knocks a large amount of asteroids into the inner solar system, which caused multiple mass extinctions. This probably doesn't work, but it is very similar to the Nibiru conspiracy theory.

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Chemosynthesis — GMT

[quote=ShadowSeris]this is what we should do with all of those threats (Planet X,comets,astreiods,etc.)

[size=18]WE SHOULD BUILD A BIG GIANT CANNON AND BLOW THE HECK OUT OF THOSE THREATS![/size]

although i think the the debris would kill us :|[/quote]Uhh... yeah... It would. And Nibiru is an act of God and should not be tampered with. There the good guys and we're the bad guys. The good guys are supposed to win in the end.

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Miyalana — GMT

[quote=Chemosynthesis][quote=ShadowSeris]this is what we should do with all of those threats (Planet X,comets,astreiods,etc.)

[size=18]WE SHOULD BUILD A BIG GIANT CANNON AND BLOW THE HECK OUT OF THOSE THREATS![/size]

although i think the the debris would kill us :|[/quote]Uhh... yeah... It would. And Nibiru is an act of God and should not be tampered with. There the good guys and we're the bad guys. The good guys are supposed to win in the end.[/quote] WE SHOULD BUILD A BIG LAZER AND MOVE THOSE THINGS OUTA EARTHS WAY!!!!

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Chemosynthesis — GMT

[quote=Miyalana][quote=Chemosynthesis][quote=ShadowSeris]this is what we should do with all of those threats (Planet X,comets,astreiods,etc.)

[size=18]WE SHOULD BUILD A BIG GIANT CANNON AND BLOW THE HECK OUT OF THOSE THREATS![/size]

although i think the the debris would kill us :|[/quote]Uhh... yeah... It would. And Nibiru is an act of God and should not be tampered with. There the good guys and we're the bad guys. The good guys are supposed to win in the end.[/quote] WE SHOULD BUILD A BIG LAZER AND MOVE THOSE THINGS OUTA EARTHS WAY!!!![/quote]Please see the link in my sig.

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iceman2 — GMT

The world cnat end just as i get out of the school system.

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

Dude, this thread is ancient. Respect the dead.

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AaronMk — GMT

As interesting as it would be to have a tenth planet in our solar system I doubt its orbit would have any impact on Earth. It's passing between Mars and Jupiter, not by our Earth. So in all likely hood I would say the least it would do is clean up the Asteroid Belt. Or mess with Mars for a bit. I don't think it'll come crashing down on Earth.

And if there was a lizard like species up there I doubt they would be able to live for long. Lizards and reptiles require heat because they're cold blooded. And this planet Nibiru spends a lot of its time away from the planet. So even if they were half warm and cold blooded I doubt they would survive for the colder periods of time on the planet. I doubt much of anything that could fly down here and be noticable would survive there.

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YourBreakfast — GMT

Now thats fu*in scary. Nostradamuss in his lost book predicted about the world ending in 2012, I don't think Nibiru will kill us but when you said it happens only 3,600 years thats what it said in his lost book. I think we''l kill ourselves with
the leadership of one man. Things are changing

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Pyjamaman — GMT

o yay:roll:. this is the topic that i wanted to be necro'd the [i]most[/i]

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spiderslayer — GMT

Nibiru did not start life!!! God did! hes the one creator of the universe.

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MinionJoe — GMT

[quote=spiderslayer]Nibiru did not start life!!! God did! hes the one creator of the universe.[/quote]

That's a surefire way to get this locked! Good job! :D

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=spiderslayer]Nibiru did not start life!!! God did! hes the one creator of the universe.[/quote]

You are new here, aren't you?

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Euphoric_Turtle — GMT

We've all been the newb at some point or another. Lol give him a break

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MinionJoe — GMT

[quote=Euphoric_Turtle]We've all been the newb at some point or another. Lol give him a break[/quote]

Line break?

Break a leg?

Breakfast?

If by "break" you mean "tolerate their ignorance because they didn't bother learning the forum before posting", then sorry, no.

How about an Egg McMuffin instead?

[img]http://cep.mcdonalds.com/qualityfood/images/related_content/img_kitchens_eggs.jpg[/img]

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=Euphoric_Turtle]We've all been the newb at some point or another. Lol give him a break[/quote]

Oh, i'm not at all the person he needs to worry about. It is the hardcore atheists that are going to raise hell over this.

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Euphoric_Turtle — GMT

[quote=Vilageidiotx][quote=Euphoric_Turtle]We've all been the newb at some point or another. Lol give him a break[/quote]

Oh, i'm not at all the person he needs to worry about. It is the hardcore atheists that are going to raise hell over this.[/quote]

Thats very true, mate.

[quote=MinionJoe][quote=Euphoric_Turtle]We've all been the newb at some point or another. Lol give him a break[/quote]

Line break?

Break a leg?

Breakfast?

If by "break" you mean "tolerate their ignorance because they didn't bother learning the forum before posting", then sorry, no.

How about an Egg McMuffin instead?

[img]http://cep.mcdonalds.com/qualityfood/images/related_content/img_kitchens_eggs.jpg[/img][/quote]

I'de rather throw up my organs, let wild boars feast upon the remains, survive that, get shot in the face by a shotgun at point blank, survive, then die later of a truck attack then eat at that REVOLTING, DISGUSTING, HELLISH PLACE.

But yeah give him a break for real man.

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poisson14 — GMT

[quote=Vilageidiotx][quote=Euphoric_Turtle]We've all been the newb at some point or another. Lol give him a break[/quote]

Oh, i'm not at all the person he needs to worry about. It is the hardcore atheists that are going to raise hell over this.[/quote]

[joking, sort of] Please let us go after him? The C vs. E threads have been closed for too long! [/joking, sort of]

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Jackuul — GMT

[quote=spiderslayer]Nibiru did not start life!!! God did! hes the one creator of the universe.[/quote]

[img]http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa220/death_berryxx/macros/why_we_cant_have_nice_things.jpg[/img]

Not this again!

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poisson14 — GMT

Good going, spiderslayer.

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AaronMk — GMT

[quote=MinionJoe][quote=Euphoric_Turtle]We've all been the newb at some point or another. Lol give him a break[/quote]

Line break?

Break a leg?

Breakfast?

If by "break" you mean "tolerate their ignorance because they didn't bother learning the forum before posting", then sorry, no.

How about an Egg McMuffin instead?

[img]http://cep.mcdonalds.com/qualityfood/images/related_content/img_kitchens_eggs.jpg[/img][/quote]

No thank you, I gave McDonals a looong time ago.

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Spode Worker — GMT

[img]http://www.anthroblogs.org/nomadicthoughts/archives/maya_cartoon.JPG[/img]

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feragorn — GMT

Nice cartoon Spode. I don't know why everyone cares! If it is going to kill us, keep living your life until it is cut short by a large planet colliding with us again. If it isn't, then we're fine. Leave doomsday SPORE to the conspiracy theorists, and proven facts to the science board.

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Kilen — GMT

Theres nothing in history to indicate really that the world ends in 2012...not really

Also wasn't the 10th planet in our solar system Xena? Then they demoted pluto and xena as planets

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poisson14 — GMT

[color=#000040]Eris, not Xena (Or was it Sedna?). Also, this is a dead, beaten topic.[/color]

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Kilen — GMT

[quote=poisson14][color=#000040]Eris, not Xena (Or was it Sedna?). Also, this is a dead, beaten topic.[/color][/quote]

This forum doesn't make sense, the moderators lock threads and say to us the search fuctions to find old threads and then when we search in these old threads and post a comment, others claim it was a beaten topic, well what happens when new people want to discuss said topic?? Otherwise does this forum have a purpose?

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=Kilen][quote=poisson14][color=#000040]Eris, not Xena (Or was it Sedna?). Also, this is a dead, beaten topic.[/color][/quote]

This forum doesn't make sense, the moderators lock threads and say to us the search fuctions to find old threads and then when we search in these old threads and post a comment, others claim it was a beaten topic, well what happens when new people want to discuss said topic?? Otherwise does this forum have a purpose?[/quote]

That's an excellent point. All this nonsense against "necroing" threads is totally at odds with the idea of not starting duplicate threads.

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poisson14 — GMT

[color=#000040]If there is nothing more to say, then it is to be left a dead topic. Like CvsE.[/color]

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Kilen — GMT

[quote=poisson14][color=#000040]If there is nothing more to say, then it is to be left a dead topic. Like CvsE.[/color][/quote

Thats not how forums work though whether people like it or not :-p

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poisson14 — GMT

[color=#000040]That's how this one is. If you have a complaint, then make a thread about it. BlackBird will probably lock it, being the *** that (s)he is, but at least you tried.[/color]

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Kilen — GMT

[quote=poisson14][color=#000040]Eris, not Xena (Or was it Sedna?). [/color][/quote]

Anyway....I thought it was originally called xena by the discoverers

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poisson14 — GMT

[color=#000040]Maybe...[/color]

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=Kilen][quote=poisson14][color=#000040]Eris, not Xena (Or was it Sedna?). [/color][/quote]

Anyway....I thought it was originally called xena by the discoverers[/quote]

It was, but it was always intended to be a placeholder name and they reserved it for the first KBO found larger than Pluto.

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=poisson14][color=#000040]That's how this one is. If you have a complaint, then make a thread about it. BlackBird will probably lock it, being the *** that (s)he is, but at least you tried.[/color][/quote]

Revolution is coming. :twisted:

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poisson14 — GMT

[color=#000040]Not to be a stickler for rules, but beware of double posts. And yes, I support the revolution! :twisted:[/color]

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DragonEye4 — GMT

The video in the original post is a fail, as the Mayans were in central, not south america. The Incas were in South America.

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CrazyShyness — GMT

Doomsday threads like this need to die, just like scientology.

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poisson14 — GMT

[color=#000040]No, not the 2012. The.. aw forget it. You missed it. I was talking about BlackBird locking a complaint thread.[/color]

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Kilen — GMT

to cut matters short notradamus was a fake and the 2012 mayan calender was a misinterpretation so the 2012 thing is bogus

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=poisson14][color=#000040]Not to be a stickler for rules, but beware of double posts. And yes, I support the revolution! :twisted:[/color][/quote]

Oh, cut it out, will ya. I was responding to two different posts and the second of them hadn't even posted at the time I wrote the first.

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ShadowsoulX — GMT

[quote=simkill].................Some people believe they can see it using ground telescopes, others say it won't become completly visable untill June 09 when it will appear clearly in the sothern hemisphere............[/quote]

[b]Original post shortened[/b]

Ok, it's September, so fail for you :wink:

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Thomas1134 — GMT

It is fake thank you. All fake. End of.

And who necro'd this?

These 'doomsday' topics get really irritating...

Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

piePIEpie — GMT

guys in 2013 go buy a new calender

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=Thomas1134]It is fake thank you. All fake. End of.

And who necro'd this?

These 'doomsday' topics get really irritating...[/quote]

Kilen necro'd it...then disappeared...

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Tarcin — GMT

I bet someone 1 million dollars that we won't die on 2012. If we do, well you win, but I won't pay up, ill be dead. If I win, you better pay up bud.

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tyrannolodon — GMT

2012 is the biggest load of nonsense since the 06/06/06 panic in 2006. Or the Y2K panic.

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piePIEpie — GMT

[quote=Tarcin]I bet someone 1 million dollars that we won't die on 2012. If we do, well you win, but I won't pay up, ill be dead. If I win, you better pay up bud.[/quote]tarcin take that out of your sig

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okknaggs88 — GMT

I hate using these images, but it applies to this thread.
[IMG]http://i31.tinypic.com/2pshu6p.png[/IMG]

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Patriot00111 — GMT

And all because the mayans didn't have a big enough stone to go further than 2012. And for those really interested, read the book "Apocalypse 2012". it explains the calnedar,solar flares and Nikolai Tesla...=-)

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tyrannolodon — GMT

If Tesla were alive he'd go out and instantly debunk 2012 because he is just that awesome.

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Tarcin — GMT

[quote=piePIEpie][quote=Tarcin]I bet someone 1 million dollars that we won't die on 2012. If we do, well you win, but I won't pay up, ill be dead. If I win, you better pay up bud.[/quote]tarcin take that out of your sig[/quote]

??

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=tyrannolodon]If Tesla were alive he'd go out and instantly debunk 2012 because he is just that awesome. [/quote]

We don' need him(yet)

A lunitic that wants to kill all of mankind can figure that out(debunk it)

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tyrannolodon — GMT

[quote=Patriot00111][quote=tyrannolodon]If Tesla were alive he'd go out and instantly debunk 2012 because he is just that awesome. [/quote]

We don' need him(yet)

A lunitic that wants to kill all of mankind can figure that out(debunk it)[/quote]
But Tesla has managed to do things back in the day that we still can't figure out how the hell he did it, because he did most everything in his head. He is perhaps a once per species genius.

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=tyrannolodon][quote=Patriot00111][quote=tyrannolodon]If Tesla were alive he'd go out and instantly debunk 2012 because he is just that awesome. [/quote]

We don' need him(yet)

A lunitic that wants to kill all of mankind can figure that out(debunk it)[/quote]
But Tesla has managed to do things back in the day that we still can't figure out how the hell he did it, because he did most everything in his head. He is perhaps a once per species genius. [/quote]

Are you saying that einstien and Bohr weren't human? Bohr is personally my favorite scientist to date.And Tesla did stuff with the "supernatural/psycics?"

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

Bohr was German (ergo inhuman) and Einstein was Arcturian (ergo inhuman). Tesla was Russian (and so semi-human). :lol:

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Thomas1134 — GMT

Be careful there. You never know who you might offend. :wink:

Bohr was Dutch by the way. :wink:

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piePIEpie — GMT

[quote=Tarcin][quote=piePIEpie][quote=Tarcin]I bet someone 1 million dollars that we won't die on 2012. If we do, well you win, but I won't pay up, ill be dead. If I win, you better pay up bud.[/quote]tarcin take that out of your sig[/quote]

??[/quote]take this out of your sig [img]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6075/splashdance.gif[/img]

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Tarcin — GMT

[quote=piePIEpie][quote=Tarcin][quote=piePIEpie][quote=Tarcin]I bet someone 1 million dollars that we won't die on 2012. If we do, well you win, but I won't pay up, ill be dead. If I win, you better pay up bud.[/quote]tarcin take that out of your sig[/quote]

??[/quote]take this out of your sig [img]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6075/splashdance.gif[/img][/quote]

i got permission to put it in the sig...

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spiderslayer — GMT

whats so bad about a dancing waterdrop?

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Patriot00111 — GMT

We inhumans don't like water drops.

@Chaos

Now i'm offended, as i am German, Russian and Scottish.

You have anything against the Scots as well?

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

I don't dare! :lol:

Besides, how many people really accepted the Germans back into the human race after learning of WWII?

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Thomas1134 — GMT

WWII was inevitabel anyway. The issues of the First World War were not effectively solved and dealt with, and the harsh punishments inflicted upon Germany only made it worse. Even if SPORE had never rose to power, there would have been some sort of war.

Also bear in mind that the Allies share a lot of the blame for WWII for failing to instigate the measures needed to control SPORE. They just sat back and watched when he repeatedly broke the Treaty of Versailles.

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

Don't need to tell me mate! You can trace the origins of WW1 back to British policies under Disraeli and Gladstone as well. Nightmare!

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Thomas1134 — GMT

Disraeli was a complete fool.

Of course, we cannot forget Mr. Chamberlain can we?

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

Who? Oh yes, sorry - I forgot! :D

Politicians in general are stupid and useless at best, otherwise malicious and detrimental at worst. You need STATESMEN in office, not politicians.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

Like Mr. Churchill.

There was someone who knew what had to be done.

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

Took him bloody long enough too, boozy swine. Git stuck two fingers up at the world and got away with it too. Why the British use two fingers and the Americans use one, I don't know, but I think it has to do with the exchange rate.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

Despite being an alcoholic, depressed, suffering from severe stress, and so on, he still lived until 90. Not bad really. Deserved the state funeral he got.

Brilliant man.

Some quotes:

In response to H[size=1],[/size]itler calling calling a drunken loonatic, he said:

'Let me tell you, I've taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has taken out of me.'

Another one:

In response to a woman saying 'Sir, you're drunk', he responded:

'Madam, your ugly, but at least I'll be sober in the morning.'

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=ChaosHarbinger]Took him bloody long enough too, boozy swine. Git stuck two fingers up at the world and got away with it too. Why the British use two fingers and the Americans use one, I don't know, but I think it has to do with the exchange rate.[/quote]

Lol. This thread has been more stand up comedy than anything. :mrgreen:

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

Well, you have to laugh at war. Either that or go mad with depression.

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=ChaosHarbinger]Well, you have to laugh at war. Either that or go mad with depression.[/quote]

Man's last words.

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Groxian3000 — GMT

Ok this thread is stupid. First of all, life wouldn't exist here if "Nibiru" hit our planet 3,000 years ago. The Earth had formed and was habitable 3,000 years ago. Second, if Nibiru was going to impact in 2012, the solar system would be experiencing small gravitational anomalies because of it's presence. Now stop whining about this and go play Spore.

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=Groxian3000]Ok this thread is stupid. First of all, life wouldn't exist here if "Nibiru" hit a planet 3,000 years ago. The Earth had formed and was habitable 3,000 years ago. Second, if Nibiru was going to impact in 2012, the solar system would be experiencing small gravitational anomalies because of it's presence. Now stop whining about this and go play Spore.[/quote]

By anomilies, you mean changes, right? And there is no evidence of "Nibiru".

And i am playing spore.

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Groxian3000 — GMT

yes, changes. and no, you are not. you are on the forums, not spore. :lol: (ok, don't take that wrong.)

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okknaggs88 — GMT

[quote=okknaggs88]I hate using these images, but it applies to this thread.
[IMG]http://i31.tinypic.com/2pshu6p.png[/IMG][/quote]

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Groxian3000 — GMT

[i]angred?[/i]

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=ChaosHarbinger]Bohr was German (ergo inhuman) and Einstein was Arcturian (ergo inhuman). Tesla was Russian (and so semi-human). :lol: [/quote]

Tesla was Croatian.

@Thomas

Bohr was Danish

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Groxian3000 — GMT

indeed.

WOW this thread is so off-topic! It deserves an award!

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=Groxian3000]indeed.

WOW this thread is so off-topic! It deserves an award![/quote]

Even i figured that out. And i'm only in 7th grade.:-)

Tesla did stuff on psycics, right?

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Groxian3000 — GMT

yep.

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tyrannolodon — GMT

Tesla was so amazing at physics that it was unbelievable. He transferred enough energy without wires, over 20 miles, to power 200 light bulbs. Modern day scientists struggle with more than a few feet. We have this problem because almost all of his work was done in his head so none of us can see the majority of his work. If we could, I'd say the world would be a more advanced place.

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=tyrannolodon]Tesla was so amazing at physics that it was unbelievable. He transferred enough energy without wires, over 20 miles, to power 200 light bulbs. Modern day scientists struggle with more than a few feet. We have this problem because almost all of his work was done in his head so none of us can see the majority of his work. If we could, I'd say the world would be a more advanced place. [/quote]

Tesla was brilliant, but also a prolific bull-SPORE. Was this something he said, or was there witnesses?

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poisson14 — GMT

[color=#000040]Agreed. Even the all-mighty Nikolai Tesla was subject to the laws of physics. [/color]
[size=0][color=white]Now Chuck Noris... [/color][/size]

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Imperiex-prime — GMT

i watched a dvd about nibiru, my grandparents saw it and they knew i love science, so they asked me to see it and tell them what i thought. i told them it had more bull in it then a farm. im only 17 and i can disprove nearly everything, its full of cr@p that isint real, for instance, jupiters gravitational pull would have flung "nibiru" out of our system after about 8 orbits, due the math on how long our system has been here and you see a problem. so quit with the "end is near" and whatever else, when 2012 comes by i can laugh at all you idiots who got into this pseudo-science.

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=Imperiex-prime]i watched a dvd about nibiru, my grandparents saw it and they knew i love science, so they asked me to see it and tell them what i thought. i told them it had more bull in it then a farm. im only 17 and i can disprove nearly everything, its full of cr@p that isint real, for instance, jupiters gravitational pull would have flung "nibiru" out of our system after about 8 orbits, due the math on how long our system has been here and you see a problem. so quit with the "end is near" and whatever else, when 2012 comes by i can laugh at all you idiots who got into this pseudo-science. go watch some star trek and star wars if you want to see science thats actually possible.[/quote]

Star War as a scientifically sound piece of sci-fi? Ignoring all little details (sound in space etc), there are other things like...

[url=http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/386.html][img]http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg0386.jpg[/img][/url]

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Imperiex-prime — GMT

[quote=Vilageidiotx][quote=Imperiex-prime]i watched a dvd about nibiru, my grandparents saw it and they knew i love science, so they asked me to see it and tell them what i thought. i told them it had more bull in it then a farm. im only 17 and i can disprove nearly everything, its full of cr@p that isint real, for instance, jupiters gravitational pull would have flung "nibiru" out of our system after about 8 orbits, due the math on how long our system has been here and you see a problem. so quit with the "end is near" and whatever else, when 2012 comes by i can laugh at all you idiots who got into this pseudo-science.[/quote]

Star War as a scientifically sound piece of sci-fi? Ignoring all little details (sound in space etc), there are other things like...

[url=http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/386.html][img]http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg0386.jpg[/img][/url][/quote]

you do know i was being sarcastic, right? i really hope you didnt think i was being serious, im just making a point that whole laws of science disprove the whole nibiru fad, which will end 2012 when nothing happens, or they will say it will come at a later time. atleast somethings in star trek and star wars are possible, scientists got the idea of cell phones from those little phones the people on star trek use, and thats a known fact. history channel said it would be possible, not at our current techonolgy level however, to make a light saber using hot plasma and an electromagnetic fields to hold it in the shape that it is. it would take thousands of years to make it work probbly, but it could. again, dont take me seriously on that post, i was joking.
il edit it out so noone falls into that one.

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

Ah, sorry, sarcasm isn't as easy to read on the internet as in reality. No tells.

The things in old sci-fi do tend to be what inspires later inventors though.

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

[quote=Vilageidiotx]Star War as a scientifically sound piece of sci-fi? Ignoring all little details (sound in space etc), there are other things like...

[url=http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/386.html][img]http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/comics/irreg0386.jpg[/img][/url][/quote]
Oh please, go back to Isaac Asimov and his Foundation series for the earliest example of a planet-city. He pointed out much the same problem with it, but similarly resolved it through the simple medium of fleets of agricultural transports. Whilst the figures are basically correct, sheer numbers can counter the difficulty. Well...right up until you learn of this massive jugular and note that it has virtually no defences.

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

[quote=Vilageidiotx][quote=tyrannolodon]Tesla was so amazing at physics that it was unbelievable. He transferred enough energy without wires, over 20 miles, to power 200 light bulbs. Modern day scientists struggle with more than a few feet. We have this problem because almost all of his work was done in his head so none of us can see the majority of his work. If we could, I'd say the world would be a more advanced place. [/quote]

Tesla was brilliant, but also a prolific bull-SPORE. Was this something he said, or was there witnesses?[/quote]
Since he rarely spoke to anyone about his work, the only real way for us to have heard about this was for him to have had witnesses in this endeavour...

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=ChaosHarbinger][quote=Vilageidiotx][quote=tyrannolodon]Tesla was so amazing at physics that it was unbelievable. He transferred enough energy without wires, over 20 miles, to power 200 light bulbs. Modern day scientists struggle with more than a few feet. We have this problem because almost all of his work was done in his head so none of us can see the majority of his work. If we could, I'd say the world would be a more advanced place. [/quote]

Tesla was brilliant, but also a prolific bull-SPORE. Was this something he said, or was there witnesses?[/quote]
Since he rarely spoke to anyone about his work, the only real way for us to have heard about this was for him to have had witnesses in this endeavour...[/quote]

In his later years he spoke a lot about his work, and bragged a lot. He said that he new how to, with a few well timed explosions, split the earth in half.

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

So do most scientists today. The difference is, he never claimed he could actually DO it. I could probably tell you exactly how to construct a nuclear weapon with a bit of research...but I very much doubt you'd be able to get the necessary materials!

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=ChaosHarbinger]So do most scientists today. The difference is, he never claimed he could actually DO it. I could probably tell you exactly how to construct a nuclear weapon with a bit of research...but I very much doubt you'd be able to get the necessary materials![/quote]

I have connections for these things :P .

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

[quote=Vilageidiotx][quote=ChaosHarbinger]So do most scientists today. The difference is, he never claimed he could actually DO it. I could probably tell you exactly how to construct a nuclear weapon with a bit of research...but I very much doubt you'd be able to get the necessary materials![/quote]

I have connections for these things :P .[/quote]
In that case, we probably know the same people...we may even work together and not realise this! :shock:

Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

DragonEye4 — GMT

Evey time I see a 2012 "doomsday" thing, I want to punch a Mayan. :evil:

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=DragonEye4]Evey time I see a 2012 "doomsday" thing, I want to punch a Mayan. :evil:[/quote]

Too bad they didn't have bigger rocks...bigger calanders...less dommsday SPORE.

Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=DragonEye4]Evey time I see a 2012 "doomsday" thing, I want to punch a Mayan. :evil:[/quote]

They are still around if you absolutely need to do this.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacandon[/url]

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Unhoplyone — GMT

December 21, 2012

I look out my window...I see nothing...I go onto the computer...It says every one is killing them selves to bear the slow death coming...A hour later...Nothing still happend...Two hours later, Still nothing happend...At the end of the day I just spend the rest of the night playing spore...

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Patriot00111 — GMT

[quote=Unhoplyone]December 21, 2012

I look out my window...I see nothing...I go onto the computer...It says every one is killing them selves to bear the slow death coming...A hour later...Nothing still happend...Two hours later, Still nothing happend...At the end of the day I just spend the rest of the night playing spore...[/quote]

We all sing 5 more days till christmas and then go to sleep, like any other winter day...=-)

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Tarcin — GMT

[quote=Patriot00111][quote=Unhoplyone]December 21, 2012

I look out my window...I see nothing...I go onto the computer...It says every one is killing them selves to bear the slow death coming...A hour later...Nothing still happend...Two hours later, Still nothing happend...At the end of the day I just spend the rest of the night playing spore...[/quote]

We all sing 5 more days till christmas and then go to sleep, like any other winter day...=-)[/quote]

woo if everyones killing themselves on 2012, time to raid target!! >:D

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okknaggs88 — GMT

This thread
[IMG]http://i29.tinypic.com/2mf0rrt.jpg[/IMG]
Makes me mad.

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Imperiex-prime — GMT

[quote=okknaggs88]This thread
[IMG]http://i29.tinypic.com/2mf0rrt.jpg[/IMG]
Makes me mad.[/quote]
Lol, i agree. this thread has as much use as that tangled mess has, nothing, zilch.

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Boinked — GMT

I'll just wait for everyone to kill themselves, then check for change in their pockets ;)

Honestly, the Earth will NOT stop rotating. The polarity of the Earth has a chance of switching [i]sometime in the future[/i], but it will not kill us all. Sure, we'll be bombarded with dangerous rays for a few months, but if we just STAY OUT OF THE SUN we won't all die. On the plus side, we'll get schweet aurora borealis.

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=Boinked]I'll just wait for everyone to kill themselves, then check for change in their pockets ;)[/quote]

Hey, no fair, why do you get to survive :( . Oh well, you will probably break your glasses or something.

Regarding 2012, What is the scientific basis for this Nibiru crap that puts it here in the first place?

(Also, fittingly enough, this is my 2012th post. The polarity of the science section will now shift).

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Imperiex-prime — GMT

[quote=Vilageidiotx][quote=Boinked]I'll just wait for everyone to kill themselves, then check for change in their pockets ;)[/quote]

Hey, no fair, why do you get to survive :( . Oh well, you will probably break your glasses or something.

Regarding 2012, What is the scientific basis for this Nibiru crap that puts it here in the first place?

(Also, fittingly enough, this is my 2012th post. The polarity of the science section will now shift).[/quote]

"In recent years the work of Zecharia Sitchin has garnered much attention among ufologists, ancient astronaut theorists and conspiracy theorists. He claims to have uncovered, through his retranslations of Sumerian texts, evidence that the human race was visited by a group of extraterrestrials from a distant planet in our own Solar System. Part of his theory lies in an astronomical interpretation of the Babylonian creation myth, the Enuma Elish, in which he replaces the names of gods with hypothetical planets. However, since the principal evidence for Sitchin's claims lies in his own personally derived etymologies and not on any scholarly agreed interpretations (including scholars among the Sumerians themselves), his theories remain at most pseudoscience to the vast majority, if not the totality, of academics.[1]

Sitchin's theory proposes the planets Tiamat and Nibiru. Tiamat supposedly existed between Mars and Jupiter. He postulated that it was a thriving world in a much differently shaped solar system, with jungles and oceans, whose orbit was disrupted by the arrival of a large planet or very small star (less than twenty times the size of Jupiter) which passed through the solar system between 65 million and four billion years ago. The new orbits caused Tiamat to collide with one of the moons of this object, which is known as Nibiru. The debris from this collision are thought by the theory's proponents to have variously formed the asteroid belt, the Moon, and the current incarnation of the planet Earth.

To the Babylonians, Nibiru was the celestial body or region sometimes associated with the god Marduk. The word is Akkadian and the meaning is uncertain. Because of this, the hypothetical planet Nibiru is sometimes also referred to as Marduk. Sitchin hypothesizes it as a planet in a highly elliptic orbit around the Sun, with a perihelion passage some 3,600 years ago and assumed orbital period of about 3,750 years; he also claims it was the home of a technologically advanced human-like alien race, the Anunnaki, who apparently visited Earth in search of gold. These beings eventually created humanity by genetically crossing themselves with extant primates, and thus became the first gods.

Beginning in 1995, websites such as ZetaTalk have identified Nibiru or "Planet X" as a brown dwarf currently within our planetary system, soon to pass relatively close to Earth. Sitchin disagrees with the timing of passage.[2]

Sitchin also postulates that Pluto began life as Gaga, a satellite of Saturn which, due to gravitational disruption caused by Nibiru's passing, was flung into orbit beyond Neptune."

From wikipedia, read more about it here- [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision[/url]

its a load of cr@p that some guy that didnt know how to translate sumarian and took the babylonian mythology way to seriously.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

AaronMk — GMT

Silly people are silly. So raise you glasses and give a toast to the entertainment they provide.

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ESPEE — GMT

Too long to read...

Okay, okay okay!
Who is the necromancer who revived this thread?
First of all, Nibiru is a haox.
Why? Well:
He orbits around star marduk. No star marduk, no planet.
People sell books of nibiru to make money.

And yes, there are traces of polarity switches wich you don't even know what an [u]ENORMOUS[/u] impact over the world (most birds and fishes) will have.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

This reminds me of the 'Nemesis Hypothesis'. A hoax as well.

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Boinked — GMT

Break out the tinfoil hats!

@Vilageidiotx

How do you know I wear glasses?

:shock:

*examines windows, sweeps room for cameras*

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=Thomas1134]This reminds me of the 'Nemesis Hypothesis'. A hoax as well.[/quote]

O.k. I'm willing to be educated. I thought that Nemesis was yet another attempt to explain aberrations in the orbit of Neptune. I understand that it is incorrect, but was it a hoax?

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=Boinked]Break out the tinfoil hats!

@Vilageidiotx

How do you know I wear glasses?

:shock:

*examines windows, sweeps room for cameras*[/quote]

This is the internet. Everyone knows that every denizen of this here internet has bad eyes (except me, this makes me the jock of the nerd world)

Seriously though, it was an oldschool reference.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

@ doktorf:

The Nemesis Hypothesis was created to try and explain the regular pattern pertaining to the mass extinction events on Earth. Admittedly, while there was a regular pattern, there was no evidence to suggest a second star orbiting between 50,000 and 100,000 AU away.

Some have gone so far to say that Nemesis's orbit is displacing distant asteroids from the Ooort Clound or some yet detected asteroid reserve and sending them towards the Solar System every several millions of years.

To test this, NASA and ESA turned every scientific insturment they had which could possibly detect it (including Hubble briefly), and nothing came up. No radiation source, no time disruption, no large gravitational influence, nothing.

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BEAR90 — GMT

ahhh nibiru also know as orcus and planet x. i dont think it has life. one reason would be because it goes to far from the sun so the tempratures would be to cold to support life. also [b]its half the size of pluto![/b] there are pictures out there. theres one nasa photo out there too.

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=Thomas1134]@ doktorf:

The Nemesis Hypothesis was created to try and explain the regular pattern pertaining to the mass extinction events on Earth. Admittedly, while there was a regular pattern, there was no evidence to suggest a second star orbiting between 50,000 and 100,000 AU away.

Some have gone so far to say that Nemesis's orbit is displacing distant asteroids from the Ooort Clound or some yet detected asteroid reserve and sending them towards the Solar System every several millions of years.

To test this, NASA and ESA turned every scientific insturment they had which could possibly detect it (including Hubble briefly), and nothing came up. No radiation source, no time disruption, no large gravitational influence, nothing.[/quote]

I'll buy that, but that's not exactly a "hoax", I mean it wasn't put forward as an idea merely to deceive people, right?

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Thomas1134 — GMT

Maybe, maybe not. :wink:

It is technically not a hoax if the people who introduced it believe in it. Then they are unwittingly deceiving us. Then it is not a hoax.

However, if they don't... (or did-but not anymore)

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

tyrannolodon — GMT

Nibiru won't kill us as it doesn't exist, but one of the most likely ways for us to go is by our own machines, one poorly worded goal to a military computer in command of an army and many factories of robots would lead to our doom.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

How true.

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ChaosHarbinger — GMT

Personally I think the end of the world will come when some American general is trying to print off something at 4AM and getting so annoyed with the consistent acquisition of "Error Type 2904" that he just slams the desk and hits the wrong button...

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tyrannolodon — GMT

[quote=ChaosHarbinger]Personally I think the end of the world will come when some American general is trying to print off something at 4AM and getting so annoyed with the consistent acquisition of "Error Type 2904" that he just slams the desk and hits the wrong button...[/quote]
That's a myth, to launch a nuclear weapon in the United States of America, you need the proper authorization codes, which I believe only the President of the United States of America has.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

Small problem:

Who gives him the codes?

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tyrannolodon — GMT

[quote=Thomas1134]Small problem:

Who gives him the codes?[/quote]
Wait a minute, I think I was wrong in my last post, I think some people in some of the secret angencies have the code. Or something like that.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

Exactly. A few bribes...

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Boinked — GMT

Ever seen [i]Dr. Strangelove[/i]?

There's the real problem. FLUORIDATED WATER!

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Tarcin — GMT

The History channel is terrible. They have so many bullshitty documentaries about the end of the world, like Nostradamus Effect and all of that. It's disappointing to see that.

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tyrannolodon — GMT

[quote=Tarcin]The History channel is terrible. They have so many bullshitty documentaries about the end of the world, like Nostradamus Effect and all of that. It's disappointing to see that.[/quote]
The history network is desperate, the Discovery Network has backed them into a corner, and thus the History network is trying anything for viewers to avoid being forced out of the business, or worse, being bought out for cheap by their much more successful rival. The National Geographic network is only kept from this fate by it's parent magazine.

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Tarcin — GMT

[quote=tyrannolodon][quote=Tarcin]The History channel is terrible. They have so many bullshitty documentaries about the end of the world, like Nostradamus Effect and all of that. It's disappointing to see that.[/quote]
The history network is desperate, the Discovery Network has backed them into a corner, and thus the History network is trying anything for viewers to avoid being forced out of the business, or worse, being bought out for cheap by their much more successful rival. The National Geographic network is only kept from this fate by it's parent magazine. [/quote]

I never found anything good on the discovery channel, i always preferred the science channel, or watching reruns of the universe on On Demand

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tyrannolodon — GMT

[quote=Tarcin][quote=tyrannolodon][quote=Tarcin]The History channel is terrible. They have so many bullshitty documentaries about the end of the world, like Nostradamus Effect and all of that. It's disappointing to see that.[/quote]
The history network is desperate, the Discovery Network has backed them into a corner, and thus the History network is trying anything for viewers to avoid being forced out of the business, or worse, being bought out for cheap by their much more successful rival. The National Geographic network is only kept from this fate by it's parent magazine. [/quote]

I never found anything good on the discovery channel, i always preferred the science channel, or watching reruns of the universe on On Demand[/quote]
The science channel is a part of the Discovery network, as is Animal planet, the Military channel, Discovery kids, the Investigation Channel, Planet Green, HD theater, Discovery In Spanish *I translated the name*, Discovery Familia, The TLC short for The Learning Channel, The Discovery Health Channel, and FitTV. And these are just the feeds in America, Discovery has over 100 separate feeds in 35 languages all over the world.

There is one other rival of the Discovery channel, which is PBS, but PBS doesn't really extend past America's borders.

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=tyrannolodon][quote=ChaosHarbinger]Personally I think the end of the world will come when some American general is trying to print off something at 4AM and getting so annoyed with the consistent acquisition of "Error Type 2904" that he just slams the desk and hits the wrong button...[/quote]
That's a myth, to launch a nuclear weapon in the United States of America, you need the proper authorization codes, which I believe only the President of the United States of America has. [/quote]

In my more paranoid moments I wonder about this. There are a lot of people high up in the military that believe that power doesn't belong in the hands of a civilian. *ANY* civilian, including the president. In recent years when presidents have tried to affect chance in the military, sometimes the military has pushed back hard and won out against its "commander in chief". A lot of recent presidents have never served and the military takes them a *lot* less seriously.

But, that being said, you are right. There is no single button for someone to hit by accident.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

@ doktorf:

[quote=Thomas1134]Small problem:

Who gives him the codes?[/quote]

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tyrannolodon — GMT

[quote=Thomas1134]@ doktorf:

[quote=Thomas1134]Small problem:

Who gives him the codes?[/quote][/quote]
As I said before, it's probable that the directors of the secret agencies, or other higher-ups in those organizations possess them as well. After all at one point, the director of the FBI was so powerful a position that a single director threatened the well-being of the united states, so they created the C.I.A to deal with international things and limited the F.B.I to domestic affairs.

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Thomas1134 — GMT

I wasn't directing it at you. It was at doktorf.

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doktorf — GMT

[quote=Thomas1134]@ doktorf:

[quote=Thomas1134]Small problem:

Who gives him the codes?[/quote][/quote]

I have no idea. I presume that these are things that are purposely not well known by the public.

edit: I went back and looked. I didn't say anything about codes and I'm not sure of which "Him" you are alluding to. The president? I'm not certain that codes enter into it, but they might. I wasn't at the meeting where that was decided.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

Thomas1134 — GMT

I would presume that most of the high ranking military personnel would know, as would the leaders of the intelligence services.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

Linneo2097 — GMT

Oh,no! Also on the Sporum!!!!!Please,make me blind!!!!!!
[size=24][/size][b]NIBURU DOES NOT EXIST![/b][size=24][/size]
If it existed,or,at least,if it was approaching to Earth,its gravitational field was alredy hurting the other planets,and we alredy saw it from Earth.
Also,it's very difficult for a great planet to travel all the Sol system and to not fall on another planet.

[quote]simkill
May not be entirely related to Nibiru, but makes a good watch and people should probably view these to get an idea that it may be possible that ancient texts may hold some truth. Also includes a computer program that predicts the future. [/quote]

NO ONE predicted the end of the world in 2012!!!!!

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HabaneroArrow — GMT

You necroed a year old thread just to say that?

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AaronMk — GMT

Holy necro Batman!

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

CaptainOomp — GMT

Nibiru is actually a solar flare. Humans get cancer and die, and it is my birthday on that day so it's a good date to kill all humans.

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Linneo2097 — GMT

Oops...it's a year old... :oops:
This is what happens when you travel around internal pages without taking any look at the date!
But the cultural situation is today critical,and people [b]MUST[/b] know that 2012 is not the year of the end of the world or anything similar.
Maya only said that their calendar's biggest period(like a century for us) will finish in 2012. They never talked about unusual facts(even,they never talked us at all!!).
Nostradamus "predicted" the future from '500s to 3700s,so world will not end in 2012 for him.But he was only a crazy man...
Einstein NEVER talked about inversion of the magnetic poles in 2012.
Bible's book "Apocalipse" is very hard to understand,so it's extremely far to tell a precise date like 2012...

But what's exactly necroing? And why is it hurting(like in the "Do aliens exist?" thread)?

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Alpackabomb — GMT

I know the whole story.

If we found all these extrasolar planets why didn't we find planetX?
BTW the story is earth was a half planet, planet X, a full planet, they 'fought', and planet x won. On a very old clay tablet it showa our solar system with two extra planets. NASA [b](apparently)[/b] dubbed video top secret, which someone found planet X in.

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Slyth33 — GMT

Who bumped this? The whole 2012/solar flare/niburu/polar shift/annuaki thing is a load of bullSpore.

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Alpackabomb — GMT

[quote=Slyth33]Who bumped this? The whole 2012/solar flare/niburu/polar shift/annuaki thing is a load of bullSpore.[/quote]

Agreed.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

Nibiru,if exists, is obviously going to kill you all. It's a planet crashing into another planet. This isn't spore.

Planet+Planet=BOOOM

Planet+Planet+Moon+=C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

the gravity will likely pull the moon in too.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

Alpackabomb — GMT

[quote=CaptainOomp]Nibiru,if exists, is obviously going to kill you all. It's a planet crashing into another planet. This isn't spore.

Planet+Planet=BOOOM

Planet+Planet+Moon+=C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER

the gravity will likely pull the moon in too.[/quote]

It's supposed to go by us, and disrupt the Oort cloud, sending aestroids twoard us.
Why do you think such an advanced civilization'd be here?I wanna hitchike an aestroid.

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CafeManager — GMT

Nibiru, Marduk, Planet X, et cetera, are all fake predictions created by a bunch of stupid teenagers to scare some of their friends. It spread around, and boom. Doomsday prediction. There's absolutely no proof that it exists, and if it did exist, then we would see it in the sky by now. Problem solved. :mrgreen:

Oh, and Alpackabomb? How would a planet passing by us disrupt the Oort cloud? The Oort cloud is near the edge of our solar system! :lol:

FAIL.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=CafeManager]Nibiru, Marduk, Planet X, et cetera, are all fake predictions created by a bunch of stupid teenagers to scare some of their friends. It spread around, and boom. Doomsday prediction. There's absolutely no proof that it exists, and if it did exist, then we would see it in the sky by now. Problem solved. :mrgreen:

Oh, and Alpackabomb? How would a planet passing by us disrupt the Oort cloud? The Oort cloud is near the edge of our solar system! :lol:

FAIL.[/quote]

Well duh, it has to pass IN to the solar system :hunf:

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

Slyth33 — GMT

So, how would a culture with no knowledge of Uranus or Neptune be able to detect a planet smaller and more remote than either of them and manage to calculate its orbit?

There are no large bodies in the Kupier belt or the Oort cloud, only comet size ice balls and a few Plutos.

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=Slyth33]So, how would a culture with no knowledge of Uranus or Neptune be able to detect a planet smaller and more remote than either of them and manage to calculate its orbit?

There are no large bodies in the Kupier belt or the Oort cloud, only comet size ice balls and a few Plutos.[/quote]

Maybe Pluto IS Nibiru!

DUN DUN DUNNNN

Re:Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

CafeManager — GMT

[quote=CaptainOomp][quote=CafeManager]Nibiru, Marduk, Planet X, et cetera, are all fake predictions created by a bunch of stupid teenagers to scare some of their friends. It spread around, and boom. Doomsday prediction. There's absolutely no proof that it exists, and if it did exist, then we would see it in the sky by now. Problem solved. :mrgreen:

Oh, and Alpackabomb? How would a planet passing by us disrupt the Oort cloud? The Oort cloud is near the edge of our solar system! :lol:

FAIL.[/quote]

Well duh, it has to pass IN to the solar system :hunf:[/quote]

It would have to be in close proximity to the Oort cloud to disrupt it.

Nibiru - The start of life? Will it kill us all? 2012

MKCSTEALTH — GMT

Honestly, all i have to say

I've heard many stories claiming Planet Niburu is twice the size of Jupiter. Though the planet isn't real, if something that big existed, we would find it

Second, the Aztec Calender does not stop on December 21, 2012. The only significance to that date is that it is the 13th time it repeats itself, so it's only starting from the beginning....seeing it is a solar calendar...

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=MKCSTEALTH]Honestly, all i have to say

I've heard many stories claiming Planet Niburu is twice the size of Jupiter. Though the planet isn't real, if something that big existed, we would find it

Second, the Aztec Calender does not stop on December 21, 2012. The only significance to that date is that it is the 13th time it repeats itself, so it's only starting from the beginning....seeing it is a solar calendar...[/quote]

Nibru and 2012 have nothing to do with eachother. The Sumerians and the Mayans lived on different sides of the palnet and thousands of years apart.

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Trickatel — GMT

Not to mention the fact that the Mayan calendar repeats as a cycle, it does not simply stop. 2012 is the new cycle, a new "era", as it were.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

Probablt when the planets align, Pluto will crash into Neptune, then Neptune into Uranus, thes so on like cosmic dominoes untill SPLAT! Into the sun. Then boom.

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Slyth33 — GMT

Pluto's orbit never crosses Neptune's, they're not in the same orbital plane.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

Nah, i'm just kidding. There will be a solar flare. I chose to kill all humans on that day because your ICBMs will not work, and it was coincidentally my birthday. You would gladly use your ICBMs on cities i'm attacking, which would not only kill my army but also the entire ecosystem of the state/country thing.

Only double apocaplypse, not a triple.

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CafeManager — GMT

[quote=CaptainOomp]Probablt when the planets align, Pluto will crash into Neptune, then Neptune into Uranus, thes so on like cosmic dominoes untill SPLAT! Into the sun. Then boom.[/quote]

...How could the sun be destroyed by a bunch of planets? Remember, the sun is gigantic, and unimaginably hot. If the planets really did crash into the sun, then they would be burned to a crisp.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=CafeManager][quote=CaptainOomp]Probablt when the planets align, Pluto will crash into Neptune, then Neptune into Uranus, thes so on like cosmic dominoes untill SPLAT! Into the sun. Then boom.[/quote]

...How could the sun be destroyed by a bunch of planets? Remember, the sun is gigantic, and unimaginably hot. If the planets really did crash into the sun, then they would be burned to a crisp.[/quote]

Jupiter and Saturn will probably leave a light-second wide dent in the sun and a large flash from the methane blowing up, but nothing too major. That's the boom.

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Slyth33 — GMT

Methane dissociates at those temperatures, there is no traditional chemistry in the sun.

Any planets colliding with the sun would be heated into plasma and be added to the sun's mass with little incident (and torn to bits by tidal forces long before the collision)

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Darkhole54321 — GMT

I always thought the Mayan calender "ended"(now know its a cycle) at 2012 because they got tired of extending the calender..... or a prank....[color=white]" Hey man, wouldn't it be awesome if we like, stopped making the calender at 2012 and like, pranked the entire world in the future?" "Yeah, man![/color]

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=Darkhole54321]I always thought the Mayan calender "ended"(now know its a cycle) at 2012 because they got tired of extending the calender..... or a prank....[color=white]" Hey man, wouldn't it be awesome if we like, stopped making the calender at 2012 and like, pranked the entire world in the future?" "Yeah, man![/color][/quote]

No, it's a solar storm. Been proven, even by humans.

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Alpackabomb — GMT

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=Alpackabomb][quote=Slyth33]So, how would a culture with no knowledge of Uranus or Neptune be able to detect a planet smaller and more remote than either of them and manage to calculate its orbit?

There are no large bodies in the Kupier belt or the Oort cloud, only comet size ice balls and a few Plutos.[/quote]

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that's why I don't beleive in planet X[/quote]

Pluto IS planet X!

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Alpackabomb — GMT

[quote=CaptainOomp][quote=Alpackabomb][quote=Slyth33]So, how would a culture with no knowledge of Uranus or Neptune be able to detect a planet smaller and more remote than either of them and manage to calculate its orbit?

There are no large bodies in the Kupier belt or the Oort cloud, only comet size ice balls and a few Plutos.[/quote]

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that's why I don't beleive in planet X[/quote]

Pluto IS planet X![/quote]
...[/fail][quote]Pluto IS planet X![/quote][fail]

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=Alpackabomb][quote=CaptainOomp][quote=Alpackabomb][quote=Slyth33]So, how would a culture with no knowledge of Uranus or Neptune be able to detect a planet smaller and more remote than either of them and manage to calculate its orbit?

There are no large bodies in the Kupier belt or the Oort cloud, only comet size ice balls and a few Plutos.[/quote]

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that's why I don't beleive in planet X[/quote]

Pluto IS planet X![/quote]
...[/fail][quote]Pluto IS planet X![/quote][fail][/quote]

It's true! Your favorite little 'dwarf planet' will take revenge on you for not recognizing it as a planet!

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Alpackabomb — GMT

[quote=CaptainOomp][quote=Alpackabomb][quote=CaptainOomp][quote=Alpackabomb][quote=Slyth33]So, how would a culture with no knowledge of Uranus or Neptune be able to detect a planet smaller and more remote than either of them and manage to calculate its orbit?

There are no large bodies in the Kupier belt or the Oort cloud, only comet size ice balls and a few Plutos.[/quote]

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that's why I don't beleive in planet X[/quote]

Pluto IS planet X![/quote]
...[/fail][quote]Pluto IS planet X![/quote][fail][/quote]

It's true! Your favorite little 'dwarf planet' will take revenge on you for not recognizing it as a planet![/quote]

How would you know it's my favorite? ARE YOU AA STAALLAKEELKKERRREER!!!!???
and then I'd fly out of here.
Sylph33, tell Captain0omp that pluto isn't planetX please.

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AaronMk — GMT

As per Nibiru:

A loonie on another forum was claiming it passed near to the sun and caused it to flip prematurely.

He then went on to keep defending his case with the "well NASA just photo-shops it out of their satellite pictures" argument.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=Alpackabomb][quote=CaptainOomp][quote=Alpackabomb][quote=CaptainOomp][quote=Alpackabomb][quote=Slyth33]So, how would a culture with no knowledge of Uranus or Neptune be able to detect a planet smaller and more remote than either of them and manage to calculate its orbit?

There are no large bodies in the Kupier belt or the Oort cloud, only comet size ice balls and a few Plutos.[/quote]

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that's why I don't beleive in planet X[/quote]

Pluto IS planet X![/quote]
...[/fail][quote]Pluto IS planet X![/quote][fail][/quote]

It's true! Your favorite little 'dwarf planet' will take revenge on you for not recognizing it as a planet![/quote]

How would you know it's my favorite? ARE YOU AA STAALLAKEELKKERRREER!!!!???
and then I'd fly out of here.
Sylph33, tell Captain0omp that pluto isn't planetX please.[/quote]

But he won't because it is!

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AaronMk — GMT

I have a secret.

I am Planet X.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=AaronMk]I have a secret.

I am Planet X.[/quote]

D: Pluto please forgive Earth for it's stupid humans calling you a non-planet, I promise to bring a shuttle full of them to you so you can kill them. Please don't crash into Earth.

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AaronMk — GMT

I don't care for them. Me and Charon are having enough fun as it is. Have you tried near absolute zero? It's wonderful.

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=CaptainOomp][quote=AaronMk]I have a secret.

I am Planet X.[/quote]

D: Pluto please forgive Earth for it's stupid humans calling you a non-planet, I promise to bring a shuttle full of them to you so you can kill them. Please don't crash into Earth.[/quote]

Bah, Pluto was a sucky planet anyway. Who could take a rock named after Mickey Mouse's dog serious?

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=AaronMk]I don't care for them. Me and Charon are having enough fun as it is. Have you tried near absolute zero? It's wonderful.[/quote]

My arm broke off. It was great.

If planet X isn't Pluto, it's either Quauor or Sedna, both far-out planetoids. You fail to consider those poor guys. Most humans don't even know abou this planet, and it's in your own star system.

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Slyth33 — GMT

[quote=Alpackabomb]tell Captain0omp that pluto isn't planetX please.[/quote]

Pluto was actually detected during a search for "planet X" since it happened to be right where planet X should have been, based on (erroneous) calculations, so in that sense, it is planet X.

We now know that the orbital dynamics calculations used were flawed, and Pluto just happened to be in the exact right place at the right time. There are no perturbations to Neptune's orbit, and even if there were Pluto is much to small to have caused them.

Part of the confusion comes from bad estimates of Pluto's mass after its discovery. Pluto has a fairly unusual albedo (shinyness, more or less) that led to dramatic over-estimations of mass for a long time. Once Hubble got a good look at it (and noticed the moon) we found out that it was a runt.

Now, I'll direct you to [url=http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/66703.page]AaronMK's thread[/url] for a more recent discussion on planet X.

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cpelite — GMT

In all honesty. There was no Planet X. The actual planet that collided with ours & gave life melted into magma, along with our planet. These formed the new Earth, with a small chunk becoming our moon. You see, when it began all the planets were very small. Mercury seems like it never collided: it is small & grey, although it did get encounters with smaller objects. Venus did not shed 'skin'. It was once a good place for life to develop but the cluster of meteors that killed the dinosaurs impacted Venus as well. Since venus was closer, & had so many acids, it just heated up, the acids becoming huge clouds, the water escaping the atmosphere.

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DarkMandalore — GMT

IMO the the 2012 theories are like Yosemite Sam's guns, they look big and scary but when you pull the trigger all that happens is a flag that says "Bang!" pops out. Gonna be a heck of a party though considering more people believe in the 2012 thing than any other apocalypse theory I've seen before from what I understand. Gonna be lots of awkward moments the next day.

If there is a planet X where we cannot see it the only possible places for it to be are on nearly the exact opposite side of the sun orbiting at the same rate in almost the same orbit, behind a gas giant somehow always keeping behind it in orbit, or beyond the Kuiper belt which is FAR beyond this system's life belt and even beyond the survivable area for extremophiles. It would be just too cold past the Kuiper belt for life to exist without some crazy advanced tech. I'm skeptical that even a geothermal system could work that far out.

To even get to us the planet would have to make it through the gravitational fields of any other planets in the way including the gas giants and the asteroid belt is also there to play havoc on it's course to Earth. Rocky planets that are in the same area as gas giants usually either end up as moons, are slingshotted into a new orbit which usually is very irregular (like Pluto's, which was blatantly altered by a close pass with Neptune millenia ago, probably around the time Pluto formed), or are "eaten" by the gas giant. The behind the sun scenario is the most likely out of the three potentials since we have no probes over there to my knowledge and therefore cannot prove or disprove the existence of said planet X plus all the hazards that mess with the other two are not present there making it much more feasible for a planet to be there.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=cpelite]In all honesty. There was no Planet X. The actual planet that collided with ours & gave life melted into magma, along with our planet. These formed the new Earth, with a small chunk becoming our moon. You see, when it began all the planets were very small. Mercury seems like it never collided: it is small & grey, although it did get encounters with smaller objects. Venus did not shed 'skin'. It was once a good place for life to develop but the cluster of meteors that killed the dinosaurs impacted Venus as well. Since venus was closer, & had so many acids, it just heated up, the acids becoming huge clouds, the water escaping the atmosphere.[/quote]

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE KUIPER BELT

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DinoRexCM — GMT

:lol:

I can't believe I never saw this thread before now.

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DarkMandalore — GMT

[quote=CaptainOomp][quote=cpelite]In all honesty. There was no Planet X. The actual planet that collided with ours & gave life melted into magma, along with our planet. These formed the new Earth, with a small chunk becoming our moon. You see, when it began all the planets were very small. Mercury seems like it never collided: it is small & grey, although it did get encounters with smaller objects. Venus did not shed 'skin'. It was once a good place for life to develop but the cluster of meteors that killed the dinosaurs impacted Venus as well. Since venus was closer, & had so many acids, it just heated up, the acids becoming huge clouds, the water escaping the atmosphere.[/quote]

WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE KUIPER BELT[/quote]

The post you quoted? Nothing. The whole topic? Quite a bit actually.

As I said, there's only a few places an unidentified planet as big as it's rumored to be could be hiding in the system without being spotted by us. In or beyond the Kuiper belt is a potential because the belt's dust would likely obscure the planet from the prying eye of our telescopes. As far as any life being there, I don't think it's possible, it's just to hostile an environment that far out. Constant bombardment from belt debris, incredible cold... it would take more than a miracle for anything, even microbial, to be there.

If our X is in the Kuiper belt it has almost no chance of hitting us, it has a blockade of obstacles to run before it could reach us, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, and Jupiter would all have the potential to alter it's course with their immense gravitational pull, maybe even eat it or capture it as a moon, then there are asteroids in the asteroid belt that are undoubtedly big enough to cause mass ejection on impact altering the course slightly.

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Slyth33 — GMT

:lol:

How has this discussion lasted so long? The odds of any large bodies sitting outside the Kupier belt are very low, there simply wasn't enough matter there for a planet to condense. Even if one did manage to form, the surface temperature will be unimaginably low, <10K. Once you get that low all chemical processes stop, everything except helium is frozen solid. (Helium itself will escape into space unless the planet is significantly more massive than Earth, but is replenished by radiodecay)

The Mayans themselves were unaware of Uranus and Neptune, there's no way they could have predicted any "random" astrological event like meteoric impacts, only systematic events like planetary motion, lunar and solar eclipses, and solar transits.

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AaronMk — GMT

People must be determined to get the last word in.

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Vilageidiotx — GMT

[quote=AaronMk]People must be determined to get the last word in.[/quote]

Indeed

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Trickatel — GMT

If there was a Planet X coming at 2012, we would already be able to spot it with telescopes from our back yard. Also, NASA have said that Planet X does not exist.

As I said before, the Mayan calendar is a simple cycle, starting and ending. It just so happens to end (and start again) on 2012. They did not predict anything, despite their good intellectual abilities.

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CaptainOomp — GMT

[quote=Trickatel]If there was a Planet X coming at 2012, we would already be able to spot it with telescopes from our back yard. Also, NASA have said that Planet X does not exist.

As I said before, the Mayan calendar is a simple cycle, starting and ending. It just so happens to end (and start again) on 2012. They did not predict anything, despite their good intellectual abilities.[/quote]

Life changing event...

AKA such as the new millenium party.

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kobbleykobkob — GMT

If this planet existed, we would have seen it, this has been said already but the fact is that [i]if[/i] we had, no one could keep it quiet, not even the US government. Have you noticed that most of the videos/ pictures are not from scientists/ have not been proved?

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cpelite — GMT

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DevenAB — GMT

Have any of you read the book "Life as we Knew it"? It seems frighteningly plausible.

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Slyth33 — GMT

[quote=DevenAB]Have any of you read the book "Life as we Knew it"? It seems frighteningly plausible.[/quote]

nope, but I have heard of it. You'd need an [i]incredibly[/i] huge object to knock the moon into a downward spiraling orbit (it's actually in a slow outward orbit right now). Such an impact would probably liquefy the moon as well. It'd be quite a sight to see.

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Zomdie — GMT

the Answer is more Complicated Then just death on 2012.

On 2012, Mcdonaldilization will be complete, bringing Forth Zomdies From every single Resturant. We Are the First wave To Strike you pitiful humans.

The Sky jellyfish will be Zomdie sky Jellyfish, under Our Command.

As Will the zomdie Mermaids.

the World Will be weakened for Our Annunaki overlords, who Will Strke from Nibiru.

that Is the End of Your World on 2012. Be Ready.

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ultimateplay91 — GMT

[quote=Zomdie]the Answer is more Complicated Then just death on 2012.

On 2012, Mcdonaldilization will be complete, bringing Forth Zomdies From every single Resturant. We Are the First wave To Strike you pitiful humans.

The Sky jellyfish will be Zomdie sky Jellyfish, under Our Command.

As Will the zomdie Mermaids.

the World Will be weakened for Our Annunaki overlords, who Will Strke from Nibiru.

that Is the End of Your World on 2012. Be Ready.[/quote]
However i have captured one of you. He is now one of us. We have genetically enhanced him. Take a look:
[img]http://static.spore.com/static/image/500/696/348/500696348759_lrg.png[/img]
He has the power of 10 of you. We are in the process of making an unstoppable army by cloning him. Be scared. Be very scared.

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Alpha989 — GMT

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CaptainOomp — GMT

If Nibiru happened, the Earth would be reduced to a smoldering chunk of hot rock, at the least.