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Do you want to have a specific part? Post other in our [url=http://www.sporemods.org/forum/index.php/topic,1215.0.html]Official Part Request thread[/url] or post in this topic.

We are always looking for new modelers to help out the workload. If you are good at 3D modeling and are interested in making new parts first read this tutorial, then if you are ok with it head over to the [url=http://www.sporemods.org/forum/index.php/board,25.0.html]BetterSpore forum[/url] and post in the [url=http://www.sporemods.org/forum/index.php/topic,989.0.html]Better Spore Development team thread[/url]. Feedback is always welcomed.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyVQZTslDE[/youtube]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyVQZTslDE]Preview of New Parts at Youtube[/url]

[url=http://sporedum.wordpress.com/better-spore/]BetterSpore Homepage[/url]

[url=http://www.sporemods.org/forum/index.php/board,25.0.html]BetterSpore Forum[/url]




[i][b]FAQ[/b][/i]

[b]Q. Will the creatures which contain these modded parts be able to upload to the Sporepedia?[/b]

A. It is theoretically possible, as Virakotxa has shown with her creature which contained Void's glasses. However that was on auto-upload and so far testing has shown that we can not upload it and make it successful when clicking the share button. We will be trying to contact EA to see if we can make it so it will be like C&C and have it so that people who don't have the mod will get a '?' and will not be effected while people with the mod can play with it.



[b]Q. Will new parts effect my saved games or my spore game?[/b]

A. This mod will be safe and secure, we will have many people Alpha test it. Also it uses the same format as patch 1.03.





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I knew sooner or later people would find out how to mod the game, but I never thought someone would actually learn how to make real parts that don't screw the game over forever and eternity!!! Great proof of concept, with the video and the picture I'm pretty sure no one with an IQ over -15 would say it was photoshopped now!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384641.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384641.page GMT

Just saying that the parts along with BetterSpore should be released sometime around the 15th of February.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384648.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384648.page GMT
TRIANGLES - such a basic shape & yet one needs more parts to create it.
Pits/Holes/Niche - anything with a negative form, like a concave dome.
& if it isn't too hard, perhaps parts similar to the Sydney Opera House.


while you guys are at it with creating new parts, i was wondering if you could 'modify' existing ones. the most obvious is have the 'Tab-button' choices for the main bodies. this would definitely make rotating main bodies a heck of a lot easier.

keep up the fantastic work guys!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384814.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384814.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384924.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384924.page GMT

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[quote]Will the creatures which contain these modded parts be able to upload to the Sporepedia? [/quote]

Why don´t you ask the Developers directly in an E-Mail...maybe they answer...

A Mod that makes parts from Vehicle-Editors useable for creature editor, would be cool.

Don´t forget about upcoming GA Expansion. Chances are high that you have to restart your whole work after release.

I hope i´m going to see better stuff soon...i´m urging for serious Mods.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384939.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384939.page GMT [/quote]

I am.

[quote=williwalli]A Mod that makes parts from Vehicle-Editors useable for creature editor, would be cool.[/quote]

This is likely to be possible, i'll see what i can do about that.

[quote=williwalli]Don´t forget about upcoming GA Expansion. Chances are high that you have to restart your whole work after release.[/quote]

Actually we won't as this will be separate to GA, we may need to change some stuff here or their but it should take a day to convert all the parts across.

[quote=williwalli]Wow, I have to admit, I like it. It´s not much, but a start.

I hope i´m going to see better stuff soon...i´m urging for serious Mods.[/quote]

This was just the first, wait until later this month and you'll be amazed (hopefully )

Ball Lightning (FutureFilms)]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384966.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/384966.page GMT
I think there should be much more simple, geometric shapes both in the building and vehicle editor - for example, the vehicle editor is lacking a pyramid part, and the building editor is lacking a true sphere part.

Another idea I have is a complex tube- , pipe- or tentacle like part that has lots of bending handles on it. I mean, all of the editors have a least one tube/tentacle like part already, but the problem with them is that you can only bend them on one point, in one direction. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385025.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385025.page GMT
They look like Space Editor parts to me, or at least "robotic".

Edit: Who´s sig messes up reading experience... ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385042.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385042.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385069.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385069.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385098.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385098.page GMT
I´m having trouble getting some serious pictures. The creatures in creature stage are much to random. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385623.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/385623.page GMT
We hope so to.

[quote=brenner]I think there should be much more simple, geometric shapes both in the building and vehicle editor - for example, the vehicle editor is lacking a pyramid part, and the building editor is lacking a true sphere part.[/quote]

I agree, as someone else said in another forum, the pyramid is missing.


[quote=williwalli]I wonder. Did you make the new body parts completely from the scratch ?
[/quote]

They are all made in Mayo from scratch.


[quote=alirahman]so youve can make some bionic creature, with this? nice.[/quote]

Correct we can, and we have a few planned.

[quote=williwalli]Is it possible to make a Mod, that lets you spawn creatures via console or key ?

I´m having trouble getting some serious pictures. The creatures in creature stage are much to random. [/quote]

I'm not to sure about that, could you give a but more detail?

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I have a big, BIG, [b]BIG[/b], [size=18][b]BIG[/b][/size] challenge for you guys. Can you make something that is transparent and glows? Like a lightbulb, but a bit more on the organic side.

Also, will new textures be makable with this? If so, how about new animations? A new creator?! [size=24] A NEW STAGE?! [/size]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/388326.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/388326.page GMT
As for a request. I was wondering about true wings that allow creatures to fly.

Something bigger than the Insect, bat, bird vareity, but I really just mean the bat which look alittle small even when they are at their largest.

I also would like apposing thumbs. Some thing that can be combined with the pawed or clawed foot parts that are lacking a estra digit.

This would good for my four legged werewolf type creatures and a dragon I made.

So that they can have a front foot that they can also manipluate and strike with.

As it was both these creatures of mine have a small hand attached at the nee/elbow and it looks alittle funny. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/390451.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/390451.page GMT
A lion-like tail (thin and bushy at the end-- hard to replicate with the current parts)

A glass bubble (sort of like the aforementioned "lightbulb", for containing your creature's heads in 50's style space helmets/making fishbowls/whatever.

Looks promising! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/390748.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/390748.page GMT
When we first got a part in i was like WOW, then we got textures in and it was even better

[quote=ParadoxJuice]I have a big, BIG, [b]BIG[/b], [size=18][b]BIG[/b][/size] challenge for you guys. Can you make something that is transparent and glows? Like a lightbulb, but a bit more on the organic side.[/quote]

I have a feeling this is not possible without access to the hard code as you would have to make a whole new part of teh code by letting it see through the part... Glowing may be possible, especially if we get animations, which is likely in the next month.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]Also, will new textures be makable with this? If so, how about new animations? A new creator?! [size=24] A NEW STAGE?! [/size][/quote]

New animations and new textures are possible, however a new creator would need to change the UI (the interface) and thats hardcoded (for now). And a new stage is even harder..]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/393358.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/393358.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/393456.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/393456.page GMT Heres a sneak peak of what we were working on today:


[img]http://sporedum.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/betterspore-catagory-1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sporedum.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/betterspore-catagory-3.jpg[/img]
[img]http://sporedum.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/betterspore-catagory-4.jpg[/img]

We are going to include a new image for the page, however we just haven't got to that yet.

Also we are going to do better renders for the parts in the menu. The new part will be getting a alpha channel so you will be able to change its colour.

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/394546.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/394546.page GMT one piece at a time, using up complexity points as you go. Maybe you could even make it so pulling on
one of the tabs allows you to make anything from straight staircases to spiral ones?

One other building part I'd like is a new roof piece that has straight triangular sides, like real buildings often
have, and no ledge around the bottom (like the one on the upper-left roof piece in the editor). To get a satisfactory
relistic roof I have to use at least three pieces, again wasting complexity points.
Check one I did recently at http://ll-379.ea.com/spore/static/image/500/261/379/500261379100_lrg.png)
to see what I'm talking about.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/395023.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/395023.page GMT
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/397790.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/397790.page GMT Hats off to you.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/397854.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/397854.page GMT [quote=ParadoxJuice]Also, will new textures be makable with this? If so, how about new animations? A new creator?! [size=24] A NEW STAGE?! [/size][/quote]

New animations and new textures are possible, however a new creator would need to change the UI (the interface) and thats hardcoded (for now). And a new stage is even harder..[/quote]


But it [i]is[/i] possible...?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/397872.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/397872.page GMT [quote=ParadoxJuice]Also, will new textures be makable with this? If so, how about new animations? A new creator?! [size=24] A NEW STAGE?! [/size][/quote]

New animations and new textures are possible, however a new creator would need to change the UI (the interface) and thats hardcoded (for now). And a new stage is even harder..[/quote]


But it [i]is[/i] possible...?[/quote]

If we could get into the hardcoded stuff... yes... but its going to be very hard to do that (through we are talking and working on it).]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/398428.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/398428.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/398441.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/398441.page GMT
1- That picture seems to depict a page of parts in the detail section, with none of the original parts. Will we have to delete parts (or whole pages of them) to download the new parts?

2- Will there be a way to make new effects for the new parts? What I mean when I say effects is the way that spit parts create purple streaks. Will we be able to make effects such as electricity?

3- Will new parts come with new stats?

4- You say these are uploadable to the Sporpedia. But what if we encouter a creature with a part that we don't have? Will the game crash?

5- Will the new parts be able to be invisible?

6- Will we ever see complicated texturing, such as a transparent texture that lets you see your creatures organs?

7- Can there be part specific animations? Compare how a tall creature moves without a mouth to how one moves with a mouth. Will we be able to say, make a suction cup that makes any limb it is on wiggle (think of tentacles)?

8- Will the new parts be able to have morph handles?

9- How many stupid or poorly done creations do you think will be made with this?

10- What downsides will there be to downloading this?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/398746.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/398746.page GMT
It will be released sometime in the middle of February. It will come in a seperate package and with BetterSpore.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]The forums were lame and refused to upload my loooooong post, so I have to type it again. Grrr...[/quote]

Never happened to me or anyone else, they are definitely better then these one (software is the same, but better layout and community)

[quote=ParadoxJuice]1- That picture seems to depict a page of parts in the detail section, with none of the original parts. Will we have to delete parts (or whole pages of them) to download the new parts?[/quote]

You don't need to delete anything, it will add a whole new page for these parts, we are working creating images for it now.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]2- Will there be a way to make new effects for the new parts? What I mean when I say effects is the way that spit parts create purple streaks. Will we be able to make effects such as electricity?[/quote]

We will be able to create these effects hopefully in the future. Our decoder is currently on a honeymoon and can't therefore isn't working on decoding the animation, however by march we should be able to start on it.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]3- Will new parts come with new stats?[/quote]

It may be possible to have more levels to stats, however the will for the moment have different combinations of stats already in the game. It will be impossible until we get into the hardcoding to add entirely new stats.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]4- You say these are uploadable to the Sporpedia. But what if we encouter a creature with a part that we don't have? Will the game crash?[/quote]

It is like if you don't have C&C, it will not put those into the game as it has unfamiliar parts, we are in discussion with Maxis on this point. At the moment they are not uploadable, but it has been done with the auto uploader.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]5- Will the new parts be able to be invisible?[/quote]

What do you mean by this?

[quote=ParadoxJuice]6- Will we ever see complicated texturing, such as a transparent texture that lets you see your creatures organs?[/quote]

Not for some time, it is theoretically possible, but at the moment we are more focused on new parts.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]7- Can there be part specific animations? Compare how a tall creature moves without a mouth to how one moves with a mouth. Will we be able to say, make a suction cup that makes any limb it is on wiggle (think of tentacles)?[/quote]

Not without touching the hardcode.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]8- Will the new parts be able to have morph handles?[/quote]

Yes.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]9- How many stupid or poorly done creations do you think will be made with this?[/quote]

Not many, as the only people who will have these mods are people who want more choices to create and therefore are probably good at making creatures, vehicles or buildings.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]10- What downsides will there be to downloading this?[/quote]

None that we know of yet, we will be getting about 10 people to alpha test it for a week before it goes into a public beta. Any downsides will be fixed, or if not possible will be posted. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/401087.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/401087.page GMT
It will be released sometime in the middle of February. It will come in a seperate package and with BetterSpore.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]The forums were lame and refused to upload my loooooong post, so I have to type it again. Grrr...[/quote]

Never happened to me or anyone else, they are definitely better then these one (software is the same, but better layout and community)

[quote=ParadoxJuice]1- That picture seems to depict a page of parts in the detail section, with none of the original parts. Will we have to delete parts (or whole pages of them) to download the new parts?[/quote]

You don't need to delete anything, it will add a whole new page for these parts, we are working creating images for it now.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]2- Will there be a way to make new effects for the new parts? What I mean when I say effects is the way that spit parts create purple streaks. Will we be able to make effects such as electricity?[/quote]

We will be able to create these effects hopefully in the future. Our decoder is currently on a honeymoon and can't therefore isn't working on decoding the animation, however by march we should be able to start on it.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]3- Will new parts come with new stats?[/quote]

It may be possible to have more levels to stats, however the will for the moment have different combinations of stats already in the game. It will be impossible until we get into the hardcoding to add entirely new stats.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]4- You say these are uploadable to the Sporpedia. But what if we encouter a creature with a part that we don't have? Will the game crash?[/quote]

It is like if you don't have C&C, it will not put those into the game as it has unfamiliar parts, we are in discussion with Maxis on this point. At the moment they are not uploadable, but it has been done with the auto uploader.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]5- Will the new parts be able to be invisible?[/quote]

What do you mean by this?

[quote=ParadoxJuice]6- Will we ever see complicated texturing, such as a transparent texture that lets you see your creatures organs?[/quote]

Not for some time, it is theoretically possible, but at the moment we are more focused on new parts.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]7- Can there be part specific animations? Compare how a tall creature moves without a mouth to how one moves with a mouth. Will we be able to say, make a suction cup that makes any limb it is on wiggle (think of tentacles)?[/quote]

Not without touching the hardcode.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]8- Will the new parts be able to have morph handles?[/quote]

Yes.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]9- How many stupid or poorly done creations do you think will be made with this?[/quote]

Not many, as the only people who will have these mods are people who want more choices to create and therefore are probably good at making creatures, vehicles or buildings.

[quote=ParadoxJuice]10- What downsides will there be to downloading this?[/quote]

None that we know of yet, we will be getting about 10 people to alpha test it for a week before it goes into a public beta. Any downsides will be fixed, or if not possible will be posted. [/quote]

What I mean with question 5 is something like the invisible limbs-for example, a cloud shaped part which appears to 'float' but only because one part of it is invisible.

Also, before I got C&C, I had creatures with the parts popping up in my game. They had a little lock in the top left corner of there card and if I clicked there cards info button it would tell me to download C&C. Then again, this may have to do with buddying with Rennar, who was making a tonne of C&C creations.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/402366.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/402366.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/402535.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/402535.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/402727.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/402727.page GMT

Its in pre-alpha testing, that part is still getting the finishing touches.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/404102.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/404102.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/412201.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/412201.page GMT Thats already possible, if you place an connector somewhere then place an body on it then turn the connector around then drag the body upwards with ctrl to make it independent and then use ctrl and shift to move the body to where you want it to be, then you can.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/412234.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/412234.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/412252.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/412252.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416535.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416535.page GMT
It will work with GA, we made need to get a patch but it will be like just having another parts pack.

[quote=spyro1996]where can you get those parts[/quote]

Its not out yet.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416560.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416560.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416596.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416596.page GMT
Yes, however at the moment no new abilities, we may have higher levels of already made abilities later on, but at the moment it will just be different combos of maxis made abilities.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416605.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/416605.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/417622.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/417622.page GMT
What do you think?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/444489.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/444489.page GMT I hate to be negative - I highly respect your skills in modding spore, I did't think adding parts or any other major mod was possible.
But I have to admit that I'm not especially excited about the parts shown in the screenshot.

The main problem I see with them, is that the parts look the same on all the screenshots - they have the same size and shape on all of them. Do the new parts even have morph channels? Or at least the option to scale them up or down? Maybe its just a unlucky choice of screenshots - but if you really can't morph or scale the new parts, then I fear they are next to useless.

Another problem I have with the screenshots is that the shown parts don't fit to non-sentient creatures at all.
With the textures and shapes they have they would be great additions to the outfitter parts, and maybe the vehicle parts too. But on the creatures in the screenshots they look awful.
I mean, this gun-like part would look awesome if placed on the arm of a armored space warrior dude - but a non sentient creature with 4 guns sticking out of its chest??? Come on, you can do better than that! You should have really taken the extra 5 minutes in the creature editor to present the new parts in a more attractive way.


]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/444583.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/444583.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/444593.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/19373/444593.page GMT I hate to be negative - I highly respect your skills in modding spore, I did't think adding parts or any other major mod was possible.
But I have to admit that I'm not especially excited about the parts shown in the screenshot. [/quote]

No problem being negative, especially if its constructive like yours is.

[quote=brenner]The main problem I see with them, is that the parts look the same on all the screenshots - they have the same size and shape on all of them. Do the new parts even have morph channels? Or at least the option to scale them up or down? Maybe its just a unlucky choice of screenshots - but if you really can't morph or scale the new parts, then I fear they are next to useless. [/quote]

They can be changed in size and do have some of the morphs. You can't change the shape of it, however you can put it anywhere/anyway you like and change the size like everything else.

[quote=brenner]Another problem I have with the screenshots is that the shown parts don't fit to non-sentient creatures at all.
With the textures and shapes they have they would be great additions to the outfitter parts, and maybe the vehicle parts too. But on the creatures in the screenshots they look awful.
I mean, this gun-like part would look awesome if placed on the arm of a armored space warrior dude - but a non sentient creature with 4 guns sticking out of its chest??? Come on, you can do better than that! You should have really taken the extra 5 minutes in the creature editor to present the new parts in a more attractive way. [/quote]

Well the gun is still in alpha (along with about 10 other new parts), there wasn't really any other way to present it, and we are looking to import them into the outfitter editor. Also as you can see some of those screenshots include the parts from the hidden cell editor.

BL
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