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However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation. This is a HUGE problem for people and families that share one computer.

EA has yet to address this problem. We need to speak until they fix this problem.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/240.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/240.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/257.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/257.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/259.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/259.page GMT
Can you just setup a ea account and use that to login? I installed the game on my girlfriends laptop but logged in with my account then when she went to play there isn't an option to register again, at least not that I saw. I did install on my desktop but haven't started playing on that yet (*** driver issue!!!!) but once I get that going I guess I can have her register there but then I'm assuming we will have the same problem !!!! I guess it's no big deal since you can start up multiple games but it's nice to have separate accounts! Hope this gets fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/285.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/285.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/313.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/313.page GMT
Gimme a break. I got this game for myself, my wife and my son and you're telling me we can't individually track our achievements and creations?

EA/Maxis...please fix this game-breaking issue!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/343.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/343.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/441.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/441.page GMT
However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation.[/quote]

That section in the manual was a misprint and will be corrected in future printings of the manual. There is one Spore registration/account per game/serial code so you are correct in that you cannot make multiple accounts at this time. I have sent your guys' feedback to the game team though since I can understand the desire to share a game on a system that you entire family uses.

~Violet]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/446.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/446.page GMT
Gimme a break. I got this game for myself, my wife and my son and you're telling me we can't individually track our achievements and creations?

EA/Maxis...please fix this game-breaking issue![/quote]

Well you are talking about tracking digital signatures, so it's a bit more complex than screwing in a light bulb

Be that as it may, yes we definitely need to be able to have multiple account logins for one install.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/447.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/447.page GMT
However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation.[/quote]

That section in the manual was a misprint and will be corrected in future printings of the manual. There is one Spore registration/account per game/serial code so you are correct in that you cannot make multiple accounts at this time. I have sent your guys' feedback to the game team though since I can understand the desire to share a game on a system that you entire family uses.

~Violet[/quote]

O my.....ouch.

Err, I'm sorry but words fail me. Can you let us know as to why that decision was made? This is very limiting to say the least.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/448.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/448.page GMT
Thanks for the response Violet. I'll check the forums periodically to see if the "team" comes through. I would hate for my wife and I to miss out on all the Spore fun.

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However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation.[/quote]

That section in the manual was a misprint and will be corrected in future printings of the manual. There is one Spore registration/account per game/serial code so you are correct in that you cannot make multiple accounts at this time. I have sent your guys' feedback to the game team though since I can understand the desire to share a game on a system that you entire family uses.

~Violet[/quote]

Sorry but I don't take this serious issue as a simple MISPRINT.

1. The packaging within my copy of spore, inside and out, said nothing about one single account per installation.

***Pg. 3 informs: [i]"Internet connection, online authentication, and end user license agreement required to play. To access online features, you must register online with the provided serial code. Only one REGISTRATION available per game."[/i]

Ok so my copy of Spore was apparently authenticated and registered when my daughter signed in and started playing. She has no problem using her account. The above statement states nothing about one account per installation, it states only one registration per game.

2. My manual informs that we can have multiple accounts per installation.

***Pg. 52 notes: [i]"You man have multiple Spore accounts for each installation of the game."[/i]

This is not a misprint, this is a guarantee within my purchased copy of the game!!! As advertised I should be able to have at least two accounts active on a single installation. EA simply messed this up and now you are calling your failure a simple misprint. NOT GOING TO WORK.

Tell me EA, am I going to have to buy another gaming machine - spend a few thousand - so I can play on my Spore account. It's not even possible, in any present circumstance, to use one PC to run two Spore accounts. There is no capability presented by EA to actually succeed in doing so.

I expect EA to fix this problem, NOW, or this will become a much bigger deal.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/465.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/465.page GMT
"Having a misprint" is not a great answer. What was the actual wording suppose to be? "You may NOT have multiple Spore accounts for each installation of the game"?

Allowing multiple accounts for Creature Creator and a single account for the full game is bad practise. There is no way I am going to pay for the full price of a second game and install a second instance of Spore on my computer.

There is also a second thread trying to get EA to permit at least 2 registrations per game
http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread.jspa?messageID=4174735�

As I mentioned in that thread I'd be happy to buy a second license from EA if only it came at a reasonable cost, say about €5~€10]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/471.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/471.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/479.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/479.page GMT
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/498.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/498.page GMT
I don't need 2 accounts, I just want to play when I travel..... but I don't wanna use my laptop at home..

Hopefully that's ok... ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/499.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/499.page GMT
I don't need 2 accounts, I just want to play when I travel..... but I don't wanna use my laptop at home..

Hopefully that's ok... [/quote]

Yes I've heard you can install up to three times.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/501.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/501.page GMT
I don't need 2 accounts, I just want to play when I travel..... but I don't wanna use my laptop at home..

Hopefully that's ok... [/quote]

Yes this works, I have it installed on my desktop and my laptop at home and both work fine.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/524.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/524.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/530.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/530.page GMT
If the Creature Creator did not have this kind of limitation, then neither should the game itself.

I would be perfectly happy if it limited the number of accounts for each serial code to 2-3(whatever the number of installs we're limited to).

"Misprints" like this should never have made it past whomever approves the final manual.

I, for one, am just about done buying EA products altogether.
When those who choose to play illegally can do so with ease, these idiotic limitations only punish legit players.


I'd also like to point out that it's kinda idiotic to limit the number of installs per game, yet then limit each game to 1 account.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/544.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/544.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/547.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/547.page GMT
Not the same at all. I can reinstall ANY OS I have bought ANY number of times. Moreover, I can create multiple logins (users) and everything belonging to that user will be tied to it... As for being able to install it on only 1 PC, I'm ok with that.

How would you feel if [Insert OS name here] only had 1 possible user?

I know you're not arguing for that point, I'm just pointing out your flawed thinking. No offense intended.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/549.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/549.page GMT As it is, they pretty much did it this way to hook extra people through the CC, then gouge them when it comes to the actual game.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/550.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/550.page GMT
Not the same at all. I can reinstall ANY OS I have bought ANY number of times. Moreover, I can create multiple logins (users) and everything belonging to that user will be tied to it... As for being able to install it on only 1 PC, I'm ok with that.

How would you feel if [Insert OS name here] only had 1 possible user?
[/quote]

Actually, a lot of software has a user limit. Think Symantec Corp AV on servers, Citrix, Windows Server 2xxx,...

And, nobody is saying you can't reinstall it as many times as you want... well they are, but what they really mean is after 3 installs, you need to update your user signature that is stored with EA. Because your individual key is checked against the one on the server every time you play the game online, they need to have a mechanism to keep keys from being distributed billions of times.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/559.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/559.page GMT
This is a joke, isn't it?

The EULA says: "Through this purchase, you are acquiring and EA grants you a personal, non-exclusive license to install and use the Software for your personal, non-commercial use solely as set forth in this License [i]and the accompanying documentation.[/i]"

As the manual is the accompanying documentation, and it clearly states that we may have multiple accounts, this is a breach of the License Agreement.

I hope you will not change the "misprint", but your policy as soon as possible. If not, as valmiki says, your legal department will have a problem.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/560.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/560.page GMT The EULA says: "Through this purchase, you are acquiring and EA grants you a personal, non-exclusive license to install and use the Software for your personal, non-commercial use solely as set forth in this License [i]and the accompanying documentation.[/i]"[/quote]

I didn't get no stinkin "accompanying documentation".]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/566.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/566.page GMT
This is a joke, isn't it?

The EULA says: "Through this purchase, you are acquiring and EA grants you a personal, non-exclusive license to install and use the Software for your personal, non-commercial use solely as set forth in this License [i]and the accompanying documentation.[/i]"

As the manual is the accompanying documentation, and it clearly states that we may have multiple accounts, this is a breach of the License Agreement.

I hope you will not change the "misprint", but your policy as soon as possible. If not, as valmiki says, your legal department will have a problem.[/quote]

Thanks for pointing out the EULA. That's proof that we agreed of the license, but EA did not. This issue will turn into a legal matter if EA does not fix their idiotic mistake.

ALSO - I don't see anywhere on the box, ANYWHERE, that we are buying a SINGLE USER LICENSE. Nowhere is that mentioned or agreed upon. It is mentioned that multiple users can utilize their accounts on a single - registered install - and yet EA makes this misprint statement.

We need to take this further. I will voice this matter to the government and will start seeking legal advice. I will start, by tomorrow, voicing this to the media. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/569.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/569.page GMT
Not the same at all. I can reinstall ANY OS I have bought ANY number of times. Moreover, I can create multiple logins (users) and everything belonging to that user will be tied to it... As for being able to install it on only 1 PC, I'm ok with that.

How would you feel if [Insert OS name here] only had 1 possible user?
[/quote]

Actually, a lot of software has a user limit. Think Symantec Corp AV on servers, Citrix, Windows Server 2xxx,...

And, nobody is saying you can't reinstall it as many times as you want... well they are, but what they really mean is after 3 installs, you need to update your user signature that is stored with EA. Because your individual key is checked against the one on the server every time you play the game online, they need to have a mechanism to keep keys from being distributed billions of times.[/quote]

My point flew fifty miles over your head didn't it? There are TONS of such software and it's irrelevant to the debate. Normal OSes, not corporate, you know, for normal people, don't have those limitations. Of course, just in case you'd be quick to argue more, there ARE hard limitations. I think there is a 128 limit on users on Vista or somesuch, but that, also, is pointless.

Just in case you're still missing the point, here it is: [b]Normal[/b] software for [b]common people[/b] usually don't have those limitations. Now, it's true that it seems to be becoming a trend, Bioshock being an example, but I personally don't think this will survive long. People are starting to get peeved at software publishers for the prices and lack of support, DRM, ad nauseam... Or, if it does, more and more people will turn to pirating to get rid of those installation limitations.

Anyway, that's the gist of it.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/588.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/588.page GMT

Since page 52 in the manual is not part of the TOS or any other disclaimer, unfortunately their "******" are covered, and it is just a misprint.

That said, it does suck, and this functionality should be added to the game ASAP.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/591.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/591.page GMT
In the manual on page 56 it says: "[...]and the documentation that is included with this product (the "[b]Manual[/b]")[...]" - doesn't this mean that the manual is part of the documentation? That what is written there has to be considered as part of the license agreement?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/623.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/623.page GMT
SKS]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/626.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/626.page GMT
Even on page 3 of my manual it says one registration per install.

Then on page 52 it says multiple users per install.

These statements do not contradict each other, they are seemingly tied together in a valid agreement of user rights.

On top of that, when you purchase any given software, THE CONSUMER MUST BE AWARE of user privileges. When you purchase AutoCAD for an office, there is written documentation, legal rights, that provide the software to a certain amount of users. This must be know at the POINT OF SALE. Where on the box, anywhere, does it inform the consumer that the license is for a single user? Where???]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/645.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/645.page GMT

First of all, there's no legal recourse due to the limited account misprint. You do not need to see the EULA before purchase (on the box or otherwise). You automatically agree to it when you install the software. It's been that way since EULAs (and ToS for that matter) came into being. So all of the talk about it being breach of contract or any other terminology you choose to use... it isn't. Note that I'm not saying it's a good choice on EA's part.

There is a difference between games that don't have online accounts and games that do have online accounts with regards to how many accounts to can create with one game. For example, I can't create more than one account in WoW (and it doesn't say that on the box, btw). I can create more than one character, but not more than one account. Spore lets you create more than one character, but not more than one account. Same thing. This is different from a game that is offline only, where you can create unlimited accounts on your computer because it's limited to your computer. You can't compare them as they are two entirely different situations.

Now, like I said before, it's not a good choice by EA and there may be better options. But it isn't unusual, nor is the misprint in any way binding. If the misprint was in the EULA, then it would be binding. And, no, stating "supporting documentation" doesn't make the supporting documentation binding. Manuals are not legal material (in other words, what's said in them has no legal recourse).]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/687.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/687.page GMT SKS[/quote]

LOL. I dunno. Honest people are seldom motivated to start committing FEDERAL crimes, especially if it comes down to paying an extra 50.00 to play a game with my wife, or go to prison. I'm thinking my wife would just have to suffer.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/701.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/701.page GMT
This whole thing was originally designed so MULTIPLE USERS in a household could enjoy ONE purchased copy of the game. The manual text AND the software point towards this. But what probably happened at the last minute is some greedy executive thought to shaft everyone in an misguided idea that it would generate more revenue. Instead, it has created a PR nightmare of epic proportions. I already spent $120 on the Galactic Edition and special guide bundle, and now they expect to spend an extra $50 just so my wife and I can both play. I am not even asking to play at the same time as her.... just AT ALL, and I can't! This is thievery.

As for the guy above me, shame on you for bending over for the greedy suits instead of standing up to injustice.

I suggest you all e-mail not peons in tech support who can't so anythng about it, but the directors of EA and Maxis itself, their e-mail addresses are on this page: http://www.info.ea.com/company/company_message.php]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/750.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/750.page GMT

First of all, there's no legal recourse due to the limited account misprint. You do not need to see the EULA before purchase (on the box or otherwise). You automatically agree to it when you install the software. It's been that way since EULAs (and ToS for that matter) came into being. So all of the talk about it being breach of contract or any other terminology you choose to use... it isn't. Note that I'm not saying it's a good choice on EA's part.

There is a difference between games that don't have online accounts and games that do have online accounts with regards to how many accounts to can create with one game. For example, I can't create more than one account in WoW (and it doesn't say that on the box, btw). I can create more than one character, but not more than one account. Spore lets you create more than one character, but not more than one account. Same thing. This is different from a game that is offline only, where you can create unlimited accounts on your computer because it's limited to your computer. You can't compare them as they are two entirely different situations.

Now, like I said before, it's not a good choice by EA and there may be better options. But it isn't unusual, nor is the misprint in any way binding. If the misprint was in the EULA, then it would be binding. And, no, stating "supporting documentation" doesn't make the supporting documentation binding. Manuals are not legal material (in other words, what's said in them has no legal recourse).[/quote]

1. I bought the Creature Creator. Me and my daughter had separate accounts, and we used these accounts on separate user accounts in Vista. Why can't this be done now?? During installation of Spore I was INFORMED TO ERASE CREATURE CREATOR... The installation program informed me I would be able to access all my creatures, and the features, while playing Spore. And I did delete CC. Now I've lost my access, ALL TOGETHER, to play CC or Spore.

2. YOU DO NOT SUBSCRIBE OR PLAY SPORE ONLINE WITH OTHER PEOPLE!!!! This is not a MMORG, NO co-op, no death match, nothing. The Spore account is a FREE, let me say again, FREE SERVICE.

3. We have bought a game that promised - MULTIPLE ACCOUNTs PER INSTALLATION. That is plain and simple. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/801.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/801.page GMT
And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/844.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/844.page GMT
And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

exactly...dont take it out on "violet" or any mods, its not their fault.

not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/851.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/851.page GMT
If that's the case, why did you leave in the functionality to "log-in" and/or "create account" after the reg code was linked to an account? You need to find some way to work this out, because it's unfair to families who you're expecting to spend an additional $50 each just to use the online component.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/852.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/852.page GMT
And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

I do not believe you are an actual representative of Maxis or EA because the answer you provided is purely ignorant.

As you, a person representing the company who sells this software, are telling us that there is a SERVER CONCERN.

We can't access our account because you do not want to overload the MAXIS/EA servers???

We can not use the software we gladly purchased, in loyalty to Spore, because you do not want too many people actually playing the game. EA/Maxis does not want too many people having active accounts because there might be an overload.

**** YOU!!!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/855.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/855.page GMT
And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

I do not believe you are an actual representative of Maxis or EA because the answer you provided is purely ignorant.

As you, a person representing the company who sells this software, are telling us that there is a SERVER CONCERN.

We can't access our account because you do not want to overload the MAXIS/EA servers???

We can not use the software we gladly purchased, in loyalty to Spore, because you do not want too many people actually playing the game. EA/Maxis does not want too many people having active accounts because there might be an overload.

**** YOU!!![/quote]

holy...

calm down man, its just a video game.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/856.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/856.page GMT not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

1) It says "one registration available", but it also says "multiple accounts can be used for each installation of the game (p. 52). Also, as I've said before, why have the option to login or create accounts after you've run it once? If you're only allowed one account per registration, then those should be disabled, right?

And then there's the achievements: if these are things you're supposed to show that you've achieved, and someone else uses your account and unlocks them before you have a chance to, what's the point? What's so wrong with letting a household have even a limited number of accounts (say 3-5) to linked to a single installation - especially since it's on a single computer? It's not like two players will be able to "hammer" the servers simultaneously, because there's only one computer running it. This was a bad last minute choice, plain and simple.

2) No, CC and Spore are NOT completely different games - CC is a small part of Spore.

3) We won't sue, but we also won't ever buy a game from EA again.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/857.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/857.page GMT calm down man, its just a video game.[/quote]

It's also $50+ that we spent to play this game and we're being told we can't use it in a reasonable fashion.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/858.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/858.page GMT
exactly...dont take it out on "violet" or any mods, its not their fault.

not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

Yes the manual informs the same thing. But REGISTERING software is another story. Yes we have activated our validation, we have paid and we are here. Now we're being screwed by you suck @$$ people. This is an outrage, this is at EA's fault, and EA KNOWS IT.

Fix it now!!!

Or simply explain how to access my copy of the game. Do I need another freaking PC???? I have a laptop, is EA telling me I need another copy of the game to play on my work station???]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/859.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/859.page GMT not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

1) It says "one registration available", but it also says "multiple accounts can be used for each installation of the game (p. 52). Also, as I've said before, why have the option to login or create accounts after you've run it once? If you're only allowed one account per registration, then those should be disabled, right?

And then there's the achievements: if these are things you're supposed to show that you've achieved, and someone else uses your account and unlocks them before you have a chance to, what's the point? What's so wrong with letting a household have even a limited number of accounts (say 3-5) to linked to a single installation - especially since it's on a single computer? It's not like two players will be able to "hammer" the servers simultaneously, because there's only one computer running it. This was a bad last minute choice, plain and simple.

2) No, CC and Spore are NOT completely different games - CC is a small part of Spore.

3) We won't sue, but we also won't ever buy a game from EA again.[/quote]

i understand...and im not saying that it wouldnt be a good feature (it would be helpful to many families im sure)

im just surprised by peoples reactions here.

and from what ive read, the booklet isnt binding, while on the OUTSIDE of the box it clearly says only one registration per game. shouldnt people look for that before purchasing it and assuming that they can have more than one account?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/861.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/861.page GMT
exactly...dont take it out on "violet" or any mods, its not their fault.

not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

Yes the manual informs the same thing. But REGISTERING software is another story. Yes we have activated our validation, we have paid and we are here. Now we're being screwed by you suck @$$ people. This is an outrage, this is at EA's fault, and EA KNOWS IT.

Fix it now!!!

Or simply explain how to access my copy of the game. Do I need another freaking PC???? I have a laptop, is EA telling me I need another copy of the game to play on my work station???[/quote]

you suck @$$ people? i have nothing to do with EA/Maxis/spore...just an end user.

from what i understand, you CAN install the game on multiple computers and have a separate account for each.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/863.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/863.page GMT calm down man, its just a video game.[/quote]

It's also $50+ that we spent to play this game and we're being told we can't use it in a reasonable fashion.[/quote]

i guess i dont understand what you mean by "reasonable"

it seems like people are just assuming you can have multiple accounts ( i understand it says it in the booklet, but on the outside of the package it says the opposite)]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/865.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/865.page GMT

exactly...dont take it out on "violet" or any mods, its not their fault.

not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

Yes the manual informs the same thing. But REGISTERING software is another story. Yes we have activated our validation, we have paid and we are here. Now we're being screwed by you suck @$$ people. This is an outrage, this is at EA's fault, and EA KNOWS IT.

Fix it now!!!

Or simply explain how to access my copy of the game. Do I need another freaking PC???? I have a laptop, is EA telling me I need another copy of the game to play on my work station???



]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/866.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/866.page GMT i understand...and im not saying that it wouldnt be a good feature (it would be helpful to many families im sure)

im just surprised by peoples reactions here.

and from what ive read, the booklet isnt binding, while on the OUTSIDE of the box it clearly says only one registration per game. shouldnt people look for that before purchasing it and assuming that they can have more than one account?[/quote]

Why wouldn't it be a good feature? Do you really think the designers expected there to be 1000 users on a single computer? And aren't families a huge part of Maxis' target audience?

I don't deny the part about "one registration per game", but nothing in the manual even talks about "linking" a single Spore account to that registration.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/868.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/868.page GMT

exactly...dont take it out on "violet" or any mods, its not their fault.

not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

Yes the manual informs the same thing. But REGISTERING software is another story. Yes we have activated our validation, we have paid and we are here. Now we're being screwed by you suck @$$ people. This is an outrage, this is at EA's fault, and EA KNOWS IT.

Fix it now!!!

Or simply explain how to access my copy of the game. Do I need another freaking PC???? I have a laptop, is EA telling me I need another copy of the game to play on my work station???

^^^^^ The above message is supposed to be QUOTED.

I have seen many strange thing happen within this matter.

My GameSpot topic VANISHED into thin air.

Now I am not allowed to edit my own message. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

[/quote]


lol, conspiracy theory?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/869.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/869.page GMT i understand...and im not saying that it wouldnt be a good feature (it would be helpful to many families im sure)

im just surprised by peoples reactions here.

and from what ive read, the booklet isnt binding, while on the OUTSIDE of the box it clearly says only one registration per game. shouldnt people look for that before purchasing it and assuming that they can have more than one account?[/quote]

Why wouldn't it be a good feature? Do you really think the designers expected there to be 1000 users on a single computer? And aren't families a huge part of Maxis' target audience?

I don't deny the part about "one registration per game", but nothing in the manual even talks about "linking" a single Spore account to that registration.[/quote]

im sorry if i mistyped. i DO think it would be a good feature. i was just confused as to why people were assuming the feature to be available...see what im saying?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/870.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/870.page GMT i guess i dont understand what you mean by "reasonable"

it seems like people are just assuming you can have multiple accounts ( i understand it says it in the booklet, but on the outside of the package it says the opposite)[/quote]

I'm "assuming" nothing - the part about one registration (the outside of the package and p.3 of the manual) and the part about multiple Spore accounts (on p.52) refer to two different things.

I would have no problem with the issue people are having about multiple installs if rather than tying a registration to a Spore account, instead they simply tie it to an IP address or a MAC address or something else that identifies it as being run on a single computer. That way, every member of the family can use it with their individual Spore accounts, and the game isn't being pirated.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/871.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/871.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/872.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/872.page GMT
exactly...dont take it out on "violet" or any mods, its not their fault.

not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

Yes the manual informs the same thing. But REGISTERING software is another story. Yes we have activated our validation, we have paid and we are here. Now we're being screwed by you suck @$$ people. This is an outrage, this is at EA's fault, and EA KNOWS IT.

Fix it now!!!

Or simply explain how to access my copy of the game. Do I need another freaking PC???? I have a laptop, is EA telling me I need another copy of the game to play on my work station???[/quote]

you suck @$$ people? i have nothing to do with EA/Maxis/spore...just an end user.

from what i understand, you CAN install the game on multiple computers and have a separate account for each.[/quote]

Why is my message inside yours, before I even posted it???? [/quote]

im not sure Heints...im pretty sure you posted it (or else i wouldnt have been able to respond to it)

strange though....not sure how that would happen.

anyway, im goin to sleep, goodnight all. if you want to leave a message for me, ill answer in the morning.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/873.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/873.page GMT
IF ONLY THEY HAD USED GAMES FOR WINDOWS - LIVE THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE AT ALL! That system is built around each user having their own profile for EVERY GAME. That means every Games for Windows Live game can be shared with the whole family, its a requirement. But no, they had to be greedy, stubborn EA who thinks they are better than Microsoft and are stuck with 10 year old ideas about how DRM and user rights should work.

FIX THIS NOW and maybe restore some semblance of decency!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/878.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/878.page GMT
exactly...dont take it out on "violet" or any mods, its not their fault.

not to mention, if the box says "only one registration available per game" thats pretty clear. ( i just checked and mine has it) so when exactly where you promised multiple accounts? creature creator and spore are completely different games.

plus...what are you going to do...sue EA? come on...[/quote]

Yes the manual informs the same thing. But REGISTERING software is another story. Yes we have activated our validation, we have paid and we are here. Now we're being screwed by you suck @$$ people. This is an outrage, this is at EA's fault, and EA KNOWS IT.

Fix it now!!!

Or simply explain how to access my copy of the game. Do I need another freaking PC???? I have a laptop, is EA telling me I need another copy of the game to play on my work station???[/quote]

you suck @$$ people? i have nothing to do with EA/Maxis/spore...just an end user.

from what i understand, you CAN install the game on multiple computers and have a separate account for each.[/quote]

Why is my message inside yours, before I even posted it???? [/quote]

im not sure Heints...im pretty sure you posted it (or else i wouldnt have been able to respond to it)

strange though....not sure how that would happen.

anyway, im goin to sleep, goodnight all. if you want to leave a message for me, ill answer in the morning.[/quote]

^^^ NOT MY POST, QUOTED ^^^

thank you..heints... MY POST BELOW

How could it be possible for two people to play the game, using the same software disk, on two different computers?

We can't even play on the same machine, taking turns. It is not possible to access different accounts using the same serial number.

This concern needs to be addressed. I bought Creature Creator, then I bought Spore. I was promised multiple accounts per PC installation, yet it is not happening.

This can be taken into a legal matter legitimately with right cause.

PEACE! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/879.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/879.page GMT
IF ONLY THEY HAD USED GAMES FOR WINDOWS - LIVE THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE AT ALL! That system is built around each user having their own profile for EVERY GAME. That means every Games for Windows Live game can be shared with the whole family, its a requirement. But no, they had to be greedy, stubborn EA who thinks they are better than Microsoft and are stuck with 10 year old ideas about how DRM and user rights should work.

FIX THIS NOW and maybe restore some semblance of decency![/quote]

Yea Microsoft Live works per user. If Spore were to come out on my 360 I would not have to buy the game two times for me and my daughter to play. I buy the game once, and I pay for my MS Gold, and my daughters MS Gold. The Spore account is free. The software cost, and I've paid $10 for the Creature Creator, and $50 for MY copy of Spore.

Software is intended to be accessible for multiple users per agreement - yet this Spore software is NOT. We have not one single option.

EA intends us to purchase another computer to access our FREE spore account. I already paid for the freaking software.

EA do I need to pay you more? How do I use Spore on my PC? How am I able to utilize this software on my PC?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/885.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/885.page GMT
Low blow EA. Really low blow.

Sure you can argue semantics, but obviously, the people in charge of all the legalese and proofreading stuff initially viewed a distinction between "registration" and "accounts."

To me, one registration means you can only install it on one system, akin to a license. Multiple accounts (different words, stated we would get it in the manual) means multiple users on the same system. At least that's how I took it, until I couldn't use online and here I am on the internet.

Someone on here said they would pay. I say poppycock. Why should I have to pay for a service that was free when we purchased the game, just not for both of us?

EA once again takes something wonderful and ruins it, being more concerned with dollars and bottom lines than customer satisfaction.

I call shennanigans. Get your brooms people.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/903.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/903.page GMT
2) No, CC and Spore are NOT completely different games - CC is a small part of Spore.[/quote]


1) actually, multiple users could log in from the same computer.

if a friend was over at my house and had Spore, he could make something on my computer, log in with his account, and upload it by his name.

then he could switch back to my account, and I could upload my stuff.

voila. multiple accounts from a single client.

because, in essence, Spore IS a SPOG (Single play Online Game) with mainly offline elements.

2) nope, they're spearate games. Spore DOES have a Creature Creature in the game, but the Creature Creator that was sold in stores is NOT spore.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/912.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/912.page GMT
But in all honesty if EA were never going to allow multiple users they should of done this from the very start with Creature Creator, instead of all these arguments coming now. Especially when a lot of people have installed the game and can't get refunds--how many game stores will take back an open Spore game knowing that the installation limit on it will of decreased? Not a lot I guess.

I just hope EA can come good on this and offer some sort of compromise.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/954.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/954.page GMT
if a friend was over at my house and had Spore, he could make something on my computer, log in with his account, and upload it by his name.[/quote]

That's because your account is connected to your CD-key and your friend's account is connected to his CD-key - but we were promised to create multiple accounts with one CD-key.

[quote=maxislucky]I understand that you folks are upset about this - but this is a misprint in the manual and it will be changed in the next printing.

And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

1) Accounts and registrations are not the same. The handbook states "Only one registration available per game", too. So this is not concerned with the issue.
2) So you have a perfomance-issue if Spore sells well? What if you sold 4 million copies? Would the Spore-servers crash? Will our game experience become laggy?
As far as I know, the framerate of my game doesn't depend on how fast the server's running. Only on my computer. The number of creations that are being downloaded while I play the game depends on it - and I can't say there are too few creatures in my game.

I really think you made a great game - I really like it. But how you treat us, your customers, is not very nice. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/958.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/958.page GMT
Firstly I think it's pretty disgusting that nobody from EA is replying (or even reading?) to any of the posts on the http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/spore/ forum

I've viewed the vast majority of topics and honestly not seen a single reply (bar the stickies)

If EA think ignoring the issue means it will go away, you're mistaken.

I also need to link two accounts (created in creature creator by myself and partner) to my single copy of Spore. This is stated as possible in the manual and was possible in the CC.

This needs to be rectified. This does not affect the 3 installations so EA has no anti-piracy excuses for not allowing this. What's the point of letting people create their own CC accounts on the same PC if they then cannot do that with the full game.

Surely EA aren't expecting people to buy another copy for each family member, that would make them seem to be some over-bloated money orientated publisher. Besides how would you even install two copies of the game on one PC?

Unhappy and unimpressed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/966.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/966.page GMT
1) buy a copy of Spore
2) install on your PC (2 installs remaining)
3) register game to your Spore account
4) go to friends house and install game on that PC (1 install remaining)
5) register game to friends Spore account

Unless my thinking is flawed. This is of course still totally unacceptable as someone that wants to pirate the game, will just download it anyway. The only people being affected by this, as per usual, are the honest paying customers.

EA why don't you implement something like having a master account linked to the game verification key. Then any other user account can be a sub-account linked to the master account. For every install the master account MUST exist as well as any sub-account. Thus people can still only install 3 times.

Even if this meant the master account had to login to authenticate every week is better than the situation we currently have.


]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/980.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/980.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/988.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/988.page GMT
^^^This is what I'm talking about.^^^

I've emailed tech support almost 48 hrs ago. No answer or reply.

I've called tech support but the message says their phone system is having technical difficulties.

And some forum moderators try to shut us up my calling the fiasco a misprint. And they do not bother to inform me as to how I can play my account on my computer. Still it's only possible to access one account on my computer, and there is no solution being presented by EA.

Do they seriously want me to buy another copy of Spore, install it on a separate PC, then be able to have two accounts on one machine. This seems like the only solution and it's ridiculous. I'm not going to purchase another copy of Spore. I fully expect to utilize the copy I already paid good money for. And I sure as hell shouldn't have to pull out another computer because EA is too greedy to fix this problem, or even provide a realistic solution to use my account on the same PC carrying my daughter's account.

Now I understand this is all about greed. They gladly take my money, but are too lazy to address this concern in a professional manner.

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1046.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1046.page GMT
^^^This is what I'm talking about.^^^

I've emailed tech support almost 48 hrs ago. No answer or reply.

I've called tech support but the message says their phone system is having technical difficulties.

And some forum moderators try to shut us up my calling the fiasco a misprint. And they do not bother to inform me as to how I can play my account on my computer. Still it's only possible to access one account on my computer, and there is no solution being presented by EA.

Do they seriously want me to buy another copy of Spore, install it on a separate PC, then be able to have two accounts on one machine. This seems like the only solution and it's ridiculous. I'm not going to purchase another copy of Spore. I fully expect to utilize the copy I already paid good money for. And I sure as hell shouldn't have to pull out another computer because EA is too greedy to fix this problem, or even provide a realistic solution to use my account on the same PC carrying my daughter's account.

Now I understand this is all about greed. They gladly take my money, but are too lazy to address this concern in a professional manner.

[/quote]

nice to see you again Heints haha

to be fair, its probably not the forum moderator's fault. you have to believe that they were told to say it was a "misprint." i doubt they just came up with the excuse by themselves, ya know?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1047.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1047.page GMT
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]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1062.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1062.page GMT And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.
-MaxisLucky[/quote]

I have ONE registration of Windows Vista -- 6 Users ACCOUNTS
I have ONE registration of Quicken -- 5 Data Files for 5 different peoples ACCOUNTS
I have ONE registration of MS Office -- 6 Users

So don't tell me that "Only one registration" = "Only one account"

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1088.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1088.page GMT And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.
-MaxisLucky[/quote]

I have ONE registration of Windows Vista -- 6 Users ACCOUNTS
I have ONE registration of Quicken -- 5 Data Files for 5 different peoples ACCOUNTS
I have ONE registration of MS Office -- 6 Users

So don't tell me that "Only one registration" = "Only one account"

[/quote]

well put.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1095.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1095.page GMT
I've been looking forward to this game for a while. I bought it mainly for me, but my wife would also like to play, and ideally, she'd be able to keep her creations and achievements separate from mine. This is entirely reasonable, as we're not looking to install it on multiple PCs or both play at the same time using our one license.

The thing that really gets me is, this can only be a money-grab on EA's part; they're actually hoping that people will plunk down an extra $50 per additional user just to be able to keep their creations separate. There is *NO* technical reason for this. I'm a database administrator and I can say with some degree of certainty that the additional overhead on their servers of more users per household would be negligible. Because the real load is not managing users, it's managing creations - each user creates MANY creatures, buildings, vehicles, etc, so that's where the real load on their systems comes from. Furthermore, if multiple people in a household are going to play the game ANYWAY, the exact same number of creations will be hitting their servers, whether from one account or multiple accounts. 100 creations is 100 creations, whether it comes from 4 accounts or 4 people using one account. This might sound simplistic, but it's valid: 4 is a much, much smaller number than 100. Plus the 100 will grow as people play, while the 4 won't unless they have a kid. Plus the accounts only need to track login info while the creations contain actual data that needs to be stored.

Yes, this is just EA being EA, unfortunately. But it's also total crap. People at work have been pushing me to get Tiger Woods 09 so we can play online together, but I'm not really inclined to give EA any more money until this absurd problem is fixed. I encourage many of you to do the same, and let them know you're doing it.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1096.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1096.page GMT
But in all honesty if EA were never going to allow multiple users they should of done this from the very start with Creature Creator, instead of all these arguments coming now. Especially when a lot of people have installed the game and can't get refunds--how many game stores will take back an open Spore game knowing that the installation limit on it will of decreased? Not a lot I guess.

I just hope EA can come good on this and offer some sort of compromise.[/quote]
Agreed 100%.

There should at least be some kind of much much cheaper option for those of us who can't afford to go out and buy multiple copies of the game just so the rest of our household can play.
I'm not about to shell out $50 more so my gf can use her account to play, and neither is she.

They should have done this from the very start with the CC.
As it is, they hooked multiple people with the CC, then screwed them over by saying "Sorry! Only 1 account per game. Gotta go and buy yourself multiple copies if you want to play with the online features that badly!"
It's a money-grab issue, as has been said before in this topic.

I'm not asking for 100s of accounts being tied to a single game purchase.
I'm only asking for at least 1 account for each "allowed" installs of the game(the original installs, of course. Not the added ones you get after calling EA to get it reset because of their DRM bull-***).]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1105.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1105.page GMT
Also, one of the things we were looking forward to was being able to compare our creations in our own seperate accounts. A little friendly competition.

Now something that we virtually took for granted as a cool aspect of Spore has been taken away from us for reasons that are unclear and suspiciously greedy.

As long as we don't give up protesting this, it would seem impossible for anyone in EA or Maxis not to take notice (I only blame EA though).]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1118.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1118.page GMT
The argument that this would allow piracy is equally asinine. People are no more likely to give their friend their registration information than they are to give their friend their WoW account information. Blizzard doesn't seem to throw a fit about this (despite the fact that with Blizzard, you can create 5 separate characters ON EACH SERVER.)

This is not about web space/server loads, it's about money.

Now, I *was* quite curious as to how Spore was going to handle the web trading stuff, and assumed for awhile that it would be a peer to peer setup, never imagining that their servers would actually have your content uploaded to them, and then distribute the content from the servers. My guess is that *this* is where the real problem comes in. The idea sounded good until the first week showed over 11 million objects uploaded. I just don't think they were anywhere close to ready for the result, and someone at the last minute realized that the servers were going to cost them, so this was a last-ditch money grab, getting people to "pay" for the server space they were using.

My solution is this:

1.) When you bought Spore, you bought the game, ready to play, out of the box. The server usage is a privilege, not a right. Read at the EULA, not just the parts you want to hear.

2.) Allow multiple users per registration. This is standard.

3.) Charge a very small ($1) monthly fee to use the online service to "share" (read: download additional) content for the game.

Finally, for all of you that are gnashing your teeth, and shaking your fists, and jumping up and down, and threatening EA with the media and lawsuits, there's a reason they don't respond to you: They're laughing. EA, and other companies like them hear this crap ALL DAY, EVERY DAY from a billion users just like you, and absolutely NONE of them are actually going through with any of their empty threats. Quite simply put, EA is like every big business, and there's a formula that is used to determine whether the trouble is worth even looking at:

IF CostToFix > CostOfLawsuits THEN IgnoreYou

It's that simple. So sure, ONE of you might have your rent-a-lawyer draft up a threatening sounding note, which EA's law department will promptly throw in the trash, but absolutely nothing is going to change. You want to hurt EA? Start doing what I'm doing. Pirate. Spore was the last straw for me (yes, I purchased my legit copy.) It was actually easier to install/play the pirated version than the legit version. And the pirated version isn't limited to 3 installs (I upgrade/reformat my PCs quite regularly.)

And for the poor misguided soul that's convinced that pirating software is a federal offense, read your lawbooks. In the U.S., it's illegal to SELL pirated software. Downloading it and playing it is no more of an offense than shoplifting, and that's only if they want to go through the insane expense of trying to track you down by your IP, attempt to confiscate your computer, then bring a legal case against you. The fact is, there's more piracy scare bullcrap put out in the media than any substance behind it. If you really want to do something to punish EA, hit them where it hurts. In the pocket books. I'm tired of them punishing the legitimate users, and those of us that pay for our games legally. It's finally gotten to the point that it's easier to pirate than to purchase, so that's what I'll be doing from here out.

-Javin]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1129.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1129.page GMT
This is, as many have said more eloquently, bogus. Unless this gets resolved well, no more EA products will come into our house.

I, too, contacted EA via their Web form. I'm now 48 hours into the "within 24 hours" they promised in the confirmation email, so I'm sure that tells me what (if anything) will happen as a result of that.

My son has a couple of friends who downloaded the cracked version of the game. They had it before I took him to the store to buy our copy, and don't have these issues. Stuff like this really makes my job as a parent harder, when I have to explain why it is better to do what is right in the face of apparent disregard by EA.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1132.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1132.page GMT
Well here's a new problem in the mix. My friend bought this, installed it, went to register, and his registration number was already swiped by someone!

So far no help from EA on this situation for him.

So much for this stopping piracy. As has been said, the honest gaming community is the one who suffers from these ridiculous policies (that are not clearly stated on the software ANYWHERE).

This is going from bad to worse, and so far we get company fed lines of "it's a misprint."

If I had known that, I would of just not even got it until it was on 360, where at least you can have two accounts without any hassle.

EA, fix this. Your customers demand it. I was planning on purchasing Rock Band 2 in the next couple of months, now I'm not sure I want to give EA anymore of my hard earned dollars.

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[quote=fizzicist]My sons and I had some fun with each of us creating creatures with the CC on this one computer (with multiple user accounts). Since the CC allowed that behavior, we planned on doing the same with the game. Since I ran it first, our product key is now bound to my spore.com account, and my kids can't play online under their own accounts.[/quote]

This is the exact same thing my family and I went through. We all had our own accounts and we had our own cretures. Now because I happened to log on first, the rest of family cannot use their own creations and share them as their own.

[quote=Javin007]3.) Charge a very small ($1) monthly fee to use the online service to "share" (read: download additional) content for the game. [/quote]

Please no. Just like the anti-piracy stuff like DRM, monthly fees are something that have grown a little too much recently. Let's not show our support for giving EA more money just to get something we kind of already expected. Show them that we will pay for more of their games in the future if they treat us well with another game, like Spore.

[quote=Javin007]You want to hurt EA? Start doing what I'm doing. Pirate. Spore was the last straw for me (yes, I purchased my legit copy.) It was actually easier to install/play the pirated version than the legit version. And the pirated version isn't limited to 3 installs (I upgrade/reformat my PCs quite regularly.)
[/quote]

This is the wrong way to go about solving this. As it is, it will only encourage companies like EA that they need to keep upping their softare security and make it more difficult for people like me to play legitamitely. Good companies like Maxis would also be hurt, and I feel that they don't need to be. By the way, last time I checked, shoplifting was very much illegal, and something that I would never even consider doing.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1148.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1148.page GMT
MaxisLucky is an official Maxis rep. Try not to cross her. . Actually, I believe MaxisLucky is one of the senior producers to the game. I don't know her exact title.


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We voiced our concerns once, and we did it in a civil manner. If change is needed, then let's proceed by using the same exact methods. We got results last time.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1180.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1180.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1186.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1186.page GMT
You are right about conducting our complaints in a civil manner.

@ MaxisLucky

I am sorry for my drunken ranting and posting last night. There no excuse for the embarrassing posts and comments. I would really have liked enjoying my beverages while playing Spore. It was very generous of you to follow up with an explanation during the late hours.

Still, your explanation and reasoning, the MISPRINT and the concerns of a server overload, do not impress me, and do not address the problem.

Nobody has informed us how to have multiple accounts per computer. My daughter will come home from school today and play her game... I'll be a bystander watching her enjoyment on what is a great game IMO.

Until I can play my account, on my FAMILY gaming PC, I will forever feel neglected and used by the EA corporation. The system in which this game is being portrayed, is not working. Today I read about somebody having their serial code stripped, leaving them without their consumer rights to play a purchased product.

And still there is no way to purchase another license to establish multiple users on a single computer. We, who proudly purchased this game, who waited for YEARS to play this, are being shorthanded.

Fix this please.
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MaxisLucky is an official Maxis rep. Try not to cross her. . Actually, I believe MaxisLucky is one of the senior producers to the game. I don't know her exact title.


[/quote]

Im not 100% but im 95% sure the title in question is "Producer"
Dont you know your Maxis team.. sigh''']]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1225.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1225.page GMT
Yikes! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1230.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1230.page GMT
[quote]I am writing to express my extreme displeasure with your company, Electronic Arts. I have been a consumer of EA products for around 20 years now. I owned the original John Madden Football for the Apple II. I've bought almost a dozen Sims expansion packs. I've spent more money on downloadable tracks in Rock Band than I've spent on actual music in almost 5 years. And now, I must say, I've decided I will not be giving your company any more of my money. Let me explain.

My girlfriend and I have been eagerly anticipating Spore for the past 2 and a half years. The concept sounded interesting, and we're both fans of Will Wright's past work. The idea of a massive universe of shared user created content sounded intriguing. So when the the game was finally released on Sunday, we went down to Gamestop and bought a copy to share. We live together, so it's not like we were burning a copy and a splitting the cost. She even decided to buy the guide for another $20.

So we got home and installed the game. She logged in and played for a bit with her creatures she made back when the creature creator was first released, while I did some work around the house. When I finally got a chance to install and play on my laptop, I was annoyed to discover that I couldn't login with MY account I already had, since the serial number was now tied to her user account. Despite the fact that the manual and the guide explicitly says you CAN have more than one account in the game. Which, as I understand it, EA support is now trying to pass off as a "misprint". A quick google for the phrase "spore multiple accounts" brings up quite a few results with several people just as annoyed at your company as I am.

I've put up with a lot from Electronic Arts over the years. I've paid $50-60 for what has essentially been a roster update for Madden 2004 every year, which always seems to actually LOSE at least 2 features for every new one introduced. I've eagerly bought games that turned out to be unfinished, encountered game breaking bugs, and had to sit on my hands and wait for a patch (usually 2-3 months later). And I've lived with the annoying malware called SecuROM you've taken to using as copy protection.

To make matters even more frustrating, when I got home today, I tried to start Spore up and began getting a black screen which would immediately crash, saying "Spore has stopped working". A quick search on Google revealed this is related to the overbearing DRM your company is using. Apparently, the cracked version of the executable floating around on the internet fixes it, whereas your company has not. Sure, I could try uninstalling and reinstalling, but then I'd burn one of my THREE installs I'm allowed. No thanks. And I won't run a pirated version either. No, instead, I've decided to just uninstall Spore off my laptop, let my girlfriend have her fun with her install (as long as it works for her, great), and wash my hands of Spore, Electronic Arts, and everything related.

I'm done. No more EA games for me, ever. No Mercenaries 2 (which I almost bought Sunday as well, I'm very glad I didn't). No more Madden. No more Rock Band DLC. I won't buy anything you develop, publish, or sell. I won't buy it new, I won't buy it used. I won't pirate it, and I won't even take it if given to me. From this day forward, the EA logo will no longer cross the threshold of my home. [/quote]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1245.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1245.page GMT !!!! I guess it's no big deal since you can start up multiple games but it's nice to have separate accounts! Hope this gets fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]

No, we can't. We can setup one but can't use it. Actually we DID set up a new EA account but my girlfriend wasn't able to log in the game with this account seeing that it seems to be registered to my unique key -.-]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1258.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1258.page GMT
[quote=Yesrah][quote=Javin007]You want to hurt EA? Start doing what I'm doing. Pirate. Spore was the last straw for me (yes, I purchased my legit copy.) It was actually easier to install/play the pirated version than the legit version. And the pirated version isn't limited to 3 installs (I upgrade/reformat my PCs quite regularly.)
[/quote]
This is the wrong way to go about solving this. As it is, it will only encourage companies like EA that they need to keep upping their softare security and make it more difficult for people like me to play legitamitely. Good companies like Maxis would also be hurt, and I feel that they don't need to be. By the way, last time I checked, shoplifting was very much illegal, and something that I would never even consider doing.[/quote]
EA does not need any convincing of that. Have you ever sat in on one of those Securom pitches? It's like sitting through a time share sale. They will misrepresent and insist that you make an agreement with them because they won't take no for an answer and there's no way of getting away from them once you give them a forum with management. They are so skilled at this that they convinced one of the industry's top developers that 40+ million people pirated their crappy game when we all know that number of PC gamers doesn't exist. If you don't sign on or try to get out of an agreement, they go after your shareholders and by the time you've convinced them that anti-piracy doesn't work, half of your management team is living off severance packages while your company loses customers and spends more on support/public relations.

BTW, EA should really make sure that the anti-piracy software they sell works on the Operating Systems this game is for sale on. Securom does not play well with Vista 64-bit.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1260.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1260.page GMT
Doe SecuROM play well with anything? It's a bit obnoxious that the first time I installed CC, I run the game and got an error message. A cryptic error message about some module not able to load. I uninstall and reinstall. Same thing. Finally I resort to e-mailing a file that gathered as much info about my computer as it wanted to EA, The problem: Process Explorer. WTF? An (very nicely) enhanced version of Task Manager causes it to fail with a cryptic error message? That's a horrible user experience. Obviously degrading user experience didn't stop people who wanted to from pirating the game.

Then this ... ? Why only one account per DVD? that's incredible! Sure, maybe not from a second computer (and I'm sure SecuROM has done its job of recording data about what machine it's on ...) but from another user account, or even to switch accounts ingame? Kind of defeats the purpose of having a family computer with multiple accounts if they want to play spore with it's [i]key feature[/i] enabled. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1292.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1292.page GMT
I bought this game so both my son and I could play this game, on seperate accounts. As it is, I registered first, now he has to play as me.

Not happy EA, get this crap sorted. You wonder why people prefer to illegally download games these days?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1299.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1299.page GMT
I bought this game so both my son and I could play this game, on seperate accounts. As it is, I registered first, now he has to play as me.

Not happy EA, get this crap sorted. You wonder why people prefer to illegally download games these days?[/quote]

And you think a "pirated" or "illegal" copy will allow account online acces.. hmm,.

doubt it.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1314.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1314.page GMT [quote=Javin007]3.) Charge a very small ($1) monthly fee to use the online service to "share" (read: download additional) content for the game. [/quote]

Please no. Just like the anti-piracy stuff like DRM, monthly fees are something that have grown a little too much recently. Let's not show our support for giving EA more money just to get something we kind of already expected. Show them that we will pay for more of their games in the future if they treat us well with another game, like Spore.
[/quote]

The fact is, if it comes down to the cost of the servers, I'd far rather pay a paltry $12 per YEAR for the service then have them stop the service all together.

[quote=Yesrah]
[quote=Javin007]You want to hurt EA? Start doing what I'm doing. Pirate. Spore was the last straw for me (yes, I purchased my legit copy.) It was actually easier to install/play the pirated version than the legit version. And the pirated version isn't limited to 3 installs (I upgrade/reformat my PCs quite regularly.)
[/quote]

This is the wrong way to go about solving this. As it is, it will only encourage companies like EA that they need to keep upping their softare security and make it more difficult for people like me to play legitamitely. Good companies like Maxis would also be hurt, and I feel that they don't need to be. By the way, last time I checked, shoplifting was very much illegal, and something that I would never even consider doing.[/quote]

Perhaps it's the "wrong way" to go about anything, but as there are two factors here:
1.) Piracy will ALWAYS happen, and it will ALWAYS get past no matter what EA sets up.
2.) It's far easier to play a pirated version than a legit one.

EA has left we as the consumers absolutely no choice in the matter.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1340.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1340.page GMT
I bought this game so both my son and I could play this game, on seperate accounts. As it is, I registered first, now he has to play as me.

Not happy EA, get this crap sorted. You wonder why people prefer to illegally download games these days?[/quote]

And you think a "pirated" or "illegal" copy will allow account online acces.. hmm,.

doubt it.[/quote]
I think the point is, if we can't play with the online features for our family members, then why bother buying the game at all?

Especially when you consider you can simply download the creatures you see in the Sporepedia via the internet on an illegal copy and then only have creatures you want instead of maybe getting surprised at something that might show up.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1368.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1368.page GMT
[quote]EA... Do you hear us? There still is not an expectational reason why we can't play this game, in it's full entirety, on a SINGLE PC.

Is EA and Maxis happy with families, who looked forward to this game, having to share a single online account.

Households had separate accounts with Creature Creator. We made our creations separately on the same PC.

Now, when the Spore installation on my computer informed me to delete Creature Creator, informed me I would have full access to the features from Creature Creator while playing Spore, I understood that agreement. Still no luck using my 'paid for' software from EA - Maxis.

Now we are all stuck, forced to purchase multiple copies of Spore, scrounging up multiple PC's, to play a single game within a household.

What happened to users taking turns? Utilizing a single piece of software, per user? Windows allows multiple, Internet Validated, users per piece of software. And of course we cannot install Windows on multiple PC's without user license agreements.

My copy of Spore, with the EULA, states clearly that my family is able to have multiple accounts per installation. I agreed to these terms, EA and Maxis turn their respective backs.[/quote]

I'm not into using Cracks. If I like a game, I purchase the software to support those hundreds of individuals within the production process.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1372.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1372.page GMT
Otherwise, let us have multiple accounts in the game. I'm giving EA 30 days... after that I will never buy another EA title again.

*EDIT* You'd think the fact that some people bought the Creature Creator for $10 should be license enough to have multiple accounts.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1374.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1374.page GMT
I bought this game so both my son and I could play this game, on seperate accounts. As it is, I registered first, now he has to play as me.

Not happy EA, get this crap sorted. You wonder why people prefer to illegally download games these days?[/quote]

And you think a "pirated" or "illegal" copy will allow account online acces.. hmm,.

doubt it.[/quote]
I think the point is, if we can't play with the online features for our family members, then why bother buying the game at all?

Especially when you consider you can simply download the creatures you see in the Sporepedia via the internet on an illegal copy and then only have creatures you want instead of maybe getting surprised at something that might show up.[/quote]

Precisely.

I bought this game so that I could get the online features as well as my son. So he could feel a sense of purpose about the creatures and objects he created as well as I could. But no.

Online capabilites does not change gameplay, it does not alter the game, all it offers is a chance for your creatures to appear in other peoples games and vice versa.

If EA cant offer that to multiple users in the same household, then what is the point?

You have four kids that want to play the game on their own, then you are looking at paying for 4 copies. That is wrong on a base level. Better to download an illegal copy and tell them that online play doesn't work on your computer than have them fight over the one account.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1430.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1430.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1518.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1518.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1541.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1541.page GMT
Everyone is collectively freaking out here. lol Oi! The teen-age angst I am hearing! Everyone wants to play 'right now' and explaining DRM to the wife and kids is fun. It's cool though.

Getting a copy for each person is rough, EA. I'm probably the only one who will stick with it and the rest will go back to SIMS2. Would if I could, but these aint the times of zippity do dah and prosperity the way they used to be.[/size]

[b]'Any' options to get more user licenses for a family than "Buy Four Copies!" is better than nothing.

For a few dollars more per person, I wish you could purchase extra users for family members as easy as getting a 'Super Size' fries.

or "add user" button in game... or in my EA Games Account page.

...something.
[/b]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1550.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1550.page GMT
My wife and I both love the SimCity/Sims line of games, and really enjoyed using the Creature Creator on BOTH of our Vista 64bit profiles as separate logins. We paid the $10 for the Creature Creator, thought it was worth the money. Picked up the game on release day from a local store even, to try to help out the 'small guys' instead of getting it cheaper online.

She started up her game late Sunday, and I just now had a chance to try to fire it up after a long few days of work. However, it seems I can't use the online features with my own Spore profile because she key'd the install to hers.

I work for a Microsoft Gold level partner, I deal with PCs, Servers, Software, and Internet accounts every single day since I also help take care of afterhour and weekend tech calls for our small town. I know the differences between machine and user registrations. Not wanting to max out their servers for different user profile/same machine allowances isn't a feasible argument because if you have two profiles on the same PC only one will be able to be played at any given time. How's that so hard to manage?

I know what to understand when I read a game's 'notices'. The packaging tells me "Only one registration per game". NO where does that say to me "Only one registration per profile account". If a game is installed once, I would surely assume it could only be registered and playable from one machine. But one profile?

I've spent countless money on EA games over the last many years. Console & PC, I can think of more than 10 right off the top of my head that are currently playable. All legally purchased, all enjoyed.

This could seriously be the end of that relationship. If this is where EA is going, I don't want to be there.

Please fix this horrible choice of licensing.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1601.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1601.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1632.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1632.page GMT
To make matters worse, I installed the game via my computer account since I'm the admin... and now the game is locked to my account... so neither of the kids have access to the online content

Come EA, you can do better than this!
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1649.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1649.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1685.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1685.page GMT The problem with saying something like this is that the staff over at EA are laughing their heads off because they know this is merely an empty promise. Put some bite behind that bark and discourage people from buying EA products by using the immense power of social networking and online communities. You can make a difference by becoming the angry customer that spawns a lot more angry customers. In retail, they dread that situation. In software, they don't seem to think it exists until it bites them on the backside. Epic Games and UT3 is case in point. People don't play it, it didn't sell as well as it should, and a lot of people are absolutely infuriated with the game. I know I stopped at least 210-something friends from buying it via poor reviews/comments via various social networking sites and communities.

[quote=dr_moreau78]This is absurd. I work in the IT industry. I deal with licensing agreements all the time. There are two schools of thought: per computer and per user licensing. Spore appears to license the combination of per computer and per user which is absurdly restrictive. For all the beauty of this game, it is completely ruined for me because of this issue. I hope there are curious lawyers looking over the licensing verbage to determine any inconsitencies. I'll sign up for the class action lawsuit. I'm sure that's what Will Wright wants to happen.... have his best game remembered as the biggest licensing blunder that frustrated customer after customer instead of the revolutionary game I had hoped it would be... what a shame.[/quote]I don't really think this is Will's fault, but actually that of the suits at EA who bought the Securom presentation hook, line, and sinker. It would appear, from early demos, that programmers were in charge of accounts and thus embraced the necessary many-to-one way of handling the ratio of accounts to license hashes. All that goes out the window when the PHB's (pointy haired bosses for those of you not in the IT industry) show up and start dictating. I still dream of the day where Maxis gets out from under EA's control.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1708.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1708.page GMT
Heh, even if Bill hadn't stepped down and was personally in charge of the gaming division, I don't think a lone comment from a MS tech would set too much of your hopes into motion.

Now, a large public outcry...that could at least get the attention of those that need to hear that there are problems with this worth correcting. I can only hope they're reading their own forums.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1724.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1724.page GMT
I agree. We all have our own circles of influence. I've given reviews of various games to my more paper-based RPG friends, and actively have kept them from making some very poor purchasing choices (sometimes it sucks being the one with more disposable income, haha). I've also spread enough word about other great games to get more income to their designers. Most recently, I've been pushing Braid and Castle Crashers for the 360 Live arcade. I've even got someone interested enough to go to the Castle Crashers merch site and buy products. You think your voice won't be heard? Speak up. Let your friends know. Let others on similar sites know that there are problems or praises with a product.

I'm going to give them some time in hopes that they'll fix this, but I already know of 2 others at my work that are wanting to get this, and each of them has multiple people using the same PC, and you can be sure I'm going to let them know this will cause problems. I can only hope that I can say that the problems are fixed soon, or that's already $100 less to be spent, and that's just off the top of my head and tomorrow's plans. They'll tell their friends, and on it goes.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1729.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1729.page GMT
"Login & Registration"

Now why the heck would it say registration if it never intended to allow us to register another account? I mean what's the whole point in having the option to prompt me for my u/n and p/w if there was never an option to use more than one account?

I can imagine the scene at the EA board room when the EA faceless suits broke the news to the Maxis team a few days before the game went to print. "Oh guys, yeah we're going to have to change one thing, you know how we said we would let them register as many accounts as they want? Yeah well we're changing that.." "You're what? You know this game is going to print in just a few days right?" "Ah yeah so you got plenty of time to take the ability to register multiple accounts out." "I'm not sure that's enough time, sure we can take it out, but the menu is still gonna say 'Login *and* Registration' but when you click on it it's only going to give you the option to Login." "Oh I doubt anyone will really notice that subtle bit." "Uh, okay and, well, we've already printed the manuals up, I mean right here on page 52 'You may have multiple Spore accounts for each installation of the game.'" "Right well, we already checked with our massive team of lawyers and they say we can claim it was a misprint, we just forgot the "not" in the sentence, easy out, we even have this nice new intern named Violet who is going to break the news to everyone."

This is bollocks plain and simple, EA. I'm sick of this crap that you guys seem intent on pulling. Are you guys having a good laugh about this or something? Do you think there are no consequences for your actions? Do you honestly think I'm not going to think twice about buying your software next time? When you roll out Sims 3 finally, it's going to be a hell of a lot easier for me to just download a pirated version than to drive all the way down to GameStop and plopping down 50 bucks to get it (or is it gonna be 60?). Yes, it is EASIER. And now you are giving me a moral impetus to DO it. You are digging your own grave EA. At least have balls to tell us the truth. That's not a misprint. You know it, Violet knows it, we all know it. It's GREED. And unnecesary greed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1734.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1734.page GMT
You purchased an item in good faith and received something that is materially different from what was advertised.

The prospect of a mass charge back has caused a mis-behaving company to amend its behavior on more than one occasion. The feedback effect of the chargeback at the end of the supply chain (i.e. the retailer), going back up to the wholesaler, publisher etc, should be an efficient way of expressing discontent to EA.

I charged back tonight. Most providers allow you to do it online. If you have to call and ask for one, just state that the product you received was materially different. That will, at the very least, get the ball rolling.


]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1757.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1757.page GMT
Why put that there for a "misprint?"]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1775.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1775.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1799.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1799.page GMT i wonder at the law suits MS would face if their "One Registration per computer" product only allowed one user account per licence.... MS are not concerned that the additional user accounts will overload "windows update" for example - because they cannot access them at the same time!!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1803.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1803.page GMT
Simply put, manual says it, game HAS FUNCTIONALITY clearly laid out in the settings, but because I installed and played it first, she doesn't get the chance to link to her creations and make her own buddy lists.

I have a small video game review site and you can be *** sure there will be a mention (and likely a link back here to the forums) in the article we're writing.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1808.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1808.page GMT
Many people are using dig for their word of mouth news. Any increase in visibility amongst those considering buying this game helps.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1810.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1810.page GMT
http://digg.com/pc_games/You_may_have_multiple_Spore_accounts_a_misprint_says_EA]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1812.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1812.page GMT When my friend brought up the fact that EA was getting shady about this game i defended EA with an iron heart because, although they have crappy service, their games (for the most part) are amazing.

i too have spent more on rock band DLC in the last 3 months than i have spend on music my whole LIFE, but if EA is gonna continue this bull-**** then they are not getting another penny from me. screw rock band 2, ill jump ship to GH-WT.

and to think, i wasnt even having the account problem. EA get your hands out of your pockets and DO SOMETHING about this!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1813.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1813.page GMT

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1824.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1824.page GMT
Guess that we see how they view the consumer.

EA tech support told me I can install it on another computer and have online access, burning one of my 3 installs, oh and requiring me to buy another computer.

So far, we have 2 options. Buy another computer, or buy another game, both terrible.

It's ashame I can no longer buy Tiger Woods, Madden, Rock Band 2, Skate2, and many other games I have been excited for. I had been waiting to buy TW and Madden 09, but now they will not be on my shelves. Rock Band 2 has had me drooling, but now, I'd rather not give this company the money.

This is just sad how little care is given for the people that keep these companies in business in the first place.

It would be nice if someone official could respond in any way. Even to tell us "tough cookies, love it or leave it." At least then we would know you are listening.

As of now, feigned ignorance seems to be EA's bliss.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1825.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1825.page GMT
I'm glad that so many at least seem to enjoy the game when they can play it. I found out about this debacle before installing it, so I've left it for my find friend to have. We planned to share it, being roommates, but unless the situation changes, that isn't happening. I'm not too concerned for myself, but millions of people are buying this game, taking for granted a simple functionality that doesn't exist. This is low coming for EA. Every PC release from them in recent history has been a marketing disaster. Their status with gamers has been in steady decline since the purchase of the NFL rights, it continued with the numerous DRM scandals.

EA is quickly losing face with the people contributing to it's enormous profit margins. There is a difference between doing what needs to be done as a corporation to satisfy quarterly projections for shareholders, and biting the hand that feeds you. You can't continue to defile the place you eat and expect people to keep reaching in their pockets for increasingly less return. The rights to the NFL made good business sense, and one can argue that DRM does as well, but what does EA gain by doing this, other than another stain on the public's perception of their company? I've become haggared over dealing with this time and again. If this becomes the face of EA, as it slowly is, people are going to stop coming to the well. Your water has become rancid.


]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1840.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1840.page GMT
You'd still only be able to login using the spore account you're using on the first PC though. You couldn't register another account to it as it says it's already linked to that DVD Key.

So don't go buying another PC for that reason!

Nice to see that EA are giving you unclear information though! Can't say I'm surprised.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1867.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1867.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1877.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1877.page GMT
So, it's now off my list, much to all my friends disappointment, as we've all continually gotten together to play the first one. That means the next thing I'm looking forward to down the line....well, for one thing, are all console titles, hehe. Fallout 3 & Fable 2]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1897.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1897.page GMT And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.[/quote]

If this was in fact intended.. Why didn't you have the account limit on the Creature Creator?
Most of us didn't even think about any account limitations of the game because of how the CC worked.
( And some of us downloaded the game from EA store / D2D and didn't see the actual box. )


[quote]
There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game
...............

we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

Excuse me, but since the creature creator had no account limit, and since all family members can play under one account, how would that effect the number of creations on the server? If you're talking about different save folders/galaxies, why not just keep the one "Galaxy" per game, with shared save files?

Easy fix/solution for this limitating problem would be to add server code to check that only one instance of the game is running at a time. Even with multiple accounts, there would be one registeration key that could be tracked.
When a person logs on to Spore, it'd check if there's any other accounts playing on that certain registeration key, and boot them out if there was. Very very simple.

That'd be easy solution for family members to have their own accounts, even if only one account could play at a time. Please consider this.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1915.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1915.page GMT
So you may as well do something about it. Just ignoring it with the assumption, "Oh give 'em a few weeks and they'll give up" is not going to work.

Oh and [u]please[/u] stop trying to fob people off with misprint in the manual, server issues and etc. You're treating us like imbeciles.

Draycen]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1923.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1923.page GMT
I have my suspicions that this may be an issue with infamous DRM, and that not only does the DRM cause potential problems for the user, it also seems to limit what the developers can do.

As an aside - why do companies decide that ignoring those with complaints, or fobbing them off with a pretty transparent excuse, is a good idea? Now we're annoyed at their duplicity, as well as the actual problem. Had they said "Yeah, we're sorry and it'll be fixed in the first patch" or even "we screwed up and it can't be fixed now" then there would be much less of a problem.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1946.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1946.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1954.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1954.page GMT
http://www.new.facebook.com/group.php?gid=35309637221&ref=mf]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1990.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/1990.page GMT
Hmm.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2006.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2006.page GMT
Hmm.[/quote]

well there have been a couple EA or Maxis replies in here...but they have been few and far between.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2009.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2009.page GMT
And not only that, their answers verge on dismissals. They have yet to give any response as to what's going to happan too.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2018.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2018.page GMT
And not only that, their answers verge on dismissals. They have yet to give any response as to what's going to happan too.[/quote]

yes, but to be fair, they probably dont know what is going to happen.

no offense to any of the mods/producers/whatever, but they are probably relatively low on the food chain there and this matter isnt being handled by them... ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2020.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2020.page GMT
Hmm.[/quote]
If the people, whom run a company or division that signs your paycheck and has many employees and an endless supply of fresh recruits, made a poor decision to leave individual accounts out would you comment on the issue or would you cover for them? If you really want to be fired, you join the complaining. If you agree but your hands are tied you go silent or just say you're listening/watching. If you're the person who contributed to the decision or you're backed into a corner then you start defending the decision. If your boss is mad about this, then you start deleting and banning over it at the extreme cost of digging a hole (see Unreal Tournament 3 fallout and intense hatred of Epic Games). It's clear that accounts are a casualty of DRM, which is normally required by the suits at the publishing company (EA). Even if that weren't the case, then the automatic second explanation is that the game was kicked out before it was finished which would then also be the fault of EA and Maxis management. Either explanation, they're screwed especially when it's obvious this was no misprint.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2023.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2023.page GMT [/quote]

I really don't blame the mods on this forum or the devolopers of the game (<3 Maxis). It's just that their answers may have come from somewhere in EA, and EA has been completely ignoring us. That's who I'm upset at.

Spore is such a great game which I am enjoying very much. Maybe with flaws, but with a whole lot of potential. I hate to see such a game nearly ruined when I can't even let the rest of my family have their own account.

Keep this the hottest topic in the Spore forum! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2032.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2032.page GMT
I certainly think that the silence speaks volumes...


Draycen


[size=9](I also really hope we're not still posting to this thread, in three months time on page 300, with no resolution!)[/size]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2051.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2051.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2073.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2073.page GMT
Getting ready to charge back...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2088.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2088.page GMT
I try to always buy my games, because I want to support the developers, writers, designers and all the workers who earn their living making games. But I have to say, this is the last straw with EA. Come on! Lamest excuse ever. If Blizzard can manage to allow us to have several characters *per server* off one registration, then I don't believe this is a misprint and too hard for your company to figure out.

Epic fail EA, epic fail. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2096.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2096.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2120.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2120.page GMT
EA this sucks... create a freaking many-to-many table in your database, update your code, and push a patch. How in the world do you think it's fair that my family members can't create different profiles for their own individual experience.

/BUMP]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2127.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2127.page GMT There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work...[/quote]

Four years was enough to work out the bugs with teh procedural animation and textures, but not enough time to make multiple accounts work?

[quote=MaxisLucky]
and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. [/quote]

And it was important to limit the online features to just one user because why? And why would we assume that it would be limited to one person when: 1. Such a limitation was not present in the Creature Creator and 2. The user manual explicitly claims otherwise.

[quote=MaxisLucky]
We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.[/quote]

Ah now this one is a real winner! That makes NO sense. Just because I have two different accounts, that does NOT mean twice as much content is going to be created. Since everyone is just working under one account the same amount of content is still being created. If I create 100 different creatures under 1 account, or 100 different creatures under 2 different account, 50 on 1 and 50 on another, 100 creatures are still being created and uploaded. Same load on the server. That excuse is even worse than you guy's "misprint" excuse.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2130.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2130.page GMT
Can you please give all of us estimate as to when this ONE ACCOUNT PER PC BUG will be fixed.

Thanks ahead of time,

Heints]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2136.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2136.page GMT
Erm: at the time I burned up that install I was under the impression everything would work as advertised, and my wife would be able to play using her own account. Silly, I know]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2142.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2142.page GMT
Erm: at the time I burned up that install I was under the impression everything would work as advertised, and my wife would be able to play using her own account. Silly, I know[/quote]

Yeah, that's true of course. I suppose the lesson here is, ALWAYS be suspicious of EA, eh?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2143.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2143.page GMT http://consumerist.com/5048556/want-more-than-one-account-on-your-spore-game-buy-another-copy-sucker

Be sure and digg it here:
http://digg.com/pc_games/Want_a_second_Spore_account_But_another_copy_Sucker

And the original digg here:
http://digg.com/pc_games/You_may_have_multiple_Spore_accounts_a_misprint_says_EA

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2146.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2146.page GMT http://consumerist.com/5048556/want-more-than-one-account-on-your-spore-game-buy-another-copy-sucker

Be sure and digg it here:
http://digg.com/pc_games/Want_a_second_Spore_account_But_another_copy_Sucker

And the original digg here:
http://digg.com/pc_games/You_may_have_multiple_Spore_accounts_a_misprint_says_EA

[/quote]

you wrote that, right?

i think you might have missed the part of the argument where people had multiple accounts in Creature Creater and was told that they would seamlessly interact...also the part where supposedly in the game menus it says "switch user"...right?

EDIT: but overall, good work i think! (i didnt mean to sound critical before)]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2154.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2154.page GMT
You purchased an item in good faith and received something that is materially different from what was advertised.

The prospect of a mass charge back has caused a mis-behaving company to amend its behavior on more than one occasion. The feedback effect of the chargeback at the end of the supply chain (i.e. the retailer), going back up to the wholesaler, publisher etc, should be an efficient way of expressing discontent to EA.

I charged back tonight. Most providers allow you to do it online. If you have to call and ask for one, just state that the product you received was materially different. That will, at the very least, get the ball rolling.


[/quote]

With all due respect meosaurus, that's probably the most half-baked, unthoughtful, ill-planned, plan ever conceived.

A chargeback hits a merchant who carried out your transaction , but the merchant is unable to seek recourse or refund from the manufacturer (in this case EA) for a chargeback. Once goods have been delievered, it's paid for, whether it's sold, not sold, or chargeback.

So what you buy from Target, Wal-Mart, Amazon.com, Circuit City, Best Buy, etc. stays there. What you return or chargeback also hits them. It does NOT hit EA. It does NOT travel up the supply chain.

The exception to the rule is if you bought the game from EA directly like the EA Store. In this case, EA's the merchant.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2161.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2161.page GMT It doesn't appear as if EA/Maxis regards that as a bug. It's a design flaw. These people learned nothing from The Sims. EA is probably sitting around with a roadmap for a dozen expansions and the next one includes restoring that ability and the water stage.

I really have to wonder what the dev's have been working on for the past many years and what the inside story about all these poor design decisions is about. It seems a lot of Maxis employees have been jumping ship in the past couple years...which is a bad sign I didn't pick up on. It looks like they came up with something great, started over from scratch, and tried to imitate the original greatness but failed. The inside true story must be really juicy.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2180.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2180.page GMT
My question is: when EA will finally stop sleeping on this, wake up and make several accounts avalaible for one registration/PC, will we be able to transfer creatures from one account to the other?

My girlfriend couldn't wait for EA to solve the problem and started playing on my account. When she'll eventually get her account on the game we bought and installed, will I be able to transfert her creatures to her account? Or will she have to start all over again in order to have some creatures to show on her account?

That would be some way for EA to redeem themselves. Kind of...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2203.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2203.page GMT
Heck I cannot even get into theo nline content due to some odd bug anyways... but yeah my daughter would love to play this game too.

Anyways, bump for justice!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2209.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2209.page GMT
You are losing sales over this issue EA.

While I'm not particularly thrilled with the 3-install DRM, I was willing to live with it.

I bought the game and installed it on my machine. Then I showed it to my wife/kids. They wanted to try it out.

We tried to make spore accounts for them with the understanding that it was allowable.

After all, there's the so-called "misprint" in the documentation AND a SWITCH USERS option in the menus of the game itself. (How is it a misprint in the manual when the game was specifically coded to support multiple users?)

Yes it was understood that each of us could only be online one at a time. Heck with all of us on the same machine, that's pretty much required.

SURPRISE . . . can't have multiple accounts or switch users !!!!

Now, I have 5 different computers and I USED TO BE willing to buy multiple copies of the game (one for each machine) so that everyone could play at once.

However, this just plain ticks me off so much, that there's NO POSSIBLE WAY I'm shelling out more money for this game while this stupid, stupid, and anti-casual-player/family limitation is in place ....
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2221.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2221.page GMT
you wrote that, right?

i think you might have missed the part of the argument where people had multiple accounts in Creature Creater and was told that they would seamlessly interact...also the part where supposedly in the game menus it says "switch user"...right?

EDIT: but overall, good work i think! (i didnt mean to sound critical before)[/quote]

If you are referring to the Consumerist post, no I didn't write that, but I did tip them off. Be sure to bring that up in their comments section, cause you are right, that's a good part of the argument.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2225.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2225.page GMT
you wrote that, right?

i think you might have missed the part of the argument where people had multiple accounts in Creature Creater and was told that they would seamlessly interact...also the part where supposedly in the game menus it says "switch user"...right?

EDIT: but overall, good work i think! (i didnt mean to sound critical before)[/quote]

If you are referring to the Consumerist post, no I didn't write that, but I did tip them off. Be sure to bring that up in their comments section, cause you are right, that's a good part of the argument.[/quote]

ehh, im not a member, but please, feel free to bring it up yourself. i think its important (but im too lazy to do it while im at work now haha)]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2227.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2227.page GMT [/quote]

Hmm, you just touched on a good point. For a game to be so touted for casual gamers, EA sure seems to want to make sure that as few people can play the game as possible. My whole family can be considered casual gamers, but only 4/5 of us can play. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2230.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2230.page GMT
Let's say each CD key only allows creation of one MAIN account, but when you log into that main account, you can create subaccounts under it. Well, to allow an illegal downloader to make a subaccount, crackers would have to distribute some main account's login information with the cracked copy. But then anyone could delete those subaccounts, change the password on the main account, etc, rendering it useless. So this feature would really only be useful to legit users. And it should be obvious that this is technically feasible, considering even crappy AOL had this feature 15 years ago.

So there you go, EA. If you've been stonewalling on this because you've seen on other forums (as I have) people saying that they pirated the game but will probably go ahead and buy it anyway so they can get online, there's your solution. I won't even charge you a consulting fee.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2253.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2253.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2260.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2260.page GMT It doesn't appear as if EA/Maxis regards that as a bug. It's a design flaw. These people learned nothing from The Sims. EA is probably sitting around with a roadmap for a dozen expansions and the next one includes restoring that ability and the water stage.

I really have to wonder what the dev's have been working on for the past many years and what the inside story about all these poor design decisions is about. It seems a lot of Maxis employees have been jumping ship in the past couple years...which is a bad sign I didn't pick up on. It looks like they came up with something great, started over from scratch, and tried to imitate the original greatness but failed. The inside true story must be really juicy.[/quote]

Oh yea, I know EA's stance on this issue. Still, I believe this game was intended to have at least two or more accounts available on any given computer. Something happened, something very stupidly wrong, that is preventing this.

There still is not one comment from EA - Maxis on how to install multiple accounts, multiple copies of Spore, on a single machine.

Lets look at my Xbox 360... It's in the living room with Mercenaries 2 (I've never played a console game with more BUGS) in the DVD drive. I play on my Xbox Live account, then my daughter plays on her Xbox Live account. We are not forced to purchase two copies of the game. We can't play the game at the same time of course, but we can take our respective playtime separately.

I call the issue with Spore, the fact only one person can access their account, an overlooked BUG. And to EA's behalf, I don't think they would do something so ignorant on purpose. How could ANY company be so cowardly and greedy as to break their own EULA? How could a company, on purpose, leave entire households, entire groups of gamers, out to dry?

Now to cover their tracks, or an attempt to cover their tracks, we hear stupid responses about a misprint... "And oh by the way way we don't want too many people playing, it might slow our server down." Complete crap remarks that make NO since. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2301.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2301.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2309.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2309.page GMT
We also bought a spare copy of the CC so we could have an extra account for guests to make and upload cratures... to help us get them hooked!! I'm outraged, all this anti-pirate nonsense has gone too far. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2318.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2318.page GMT
It's my fault for buying before waiting out the first reviews, but it is frustrating to end up punished for being excited about a game. I would prefer that EA implement a fix for this. I don't think multiple profiles on the same computer is unreasonable. It's common enough for all of the other software I purchase (console and PC).

As I said, it's too late to withhold my money since it was paid for and installed on release day. I will, however, reconsider buying any what I'm sure will be a series of expansions. It would be a shame to see such an innovative and remarkable product die on the vine due to invasive DRM and unusually restrictive licensing.

I just didn't want to be a silent statistic.

- Mike]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2319.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2319.page GMT
I feel the same way. I've been wanting to install it on my laptop, but get nervous about it. I am protecting my 3, well now 2 installs.

I almost regret buying the game now. And all this DRM stuff has taken away from my enjoyment of the game. As soon as my daughter loses interest, I will uninstall it and manually remove SecuRom.

I wouldn't mind hearing from EA about how they paid to have this DRM stuff put on the game only to have the game cracked by pirates and out on the internet to download DRM-free four days before it's official release and how this does any good to legit people who just want to buy and play the game without any hassle. I have to worry how many times I install the game while those who engage in software piracy have nothing to worry about.

I figure that if EA continues the DRM stuff with future games they can expect not to see my $50. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2328.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2328.page GMT
Exactly. When I bought EA's Battlefield 2 for PC - we were able to have multiple accounts. I loved the game. My friends would come over and we would TAKE TURNS on the battlefield. It was fun, but the POINT is, you could only run one serial number at a time. Only one instance of the game could be running at a time. That's how things in PC gaming are SUPPOSED to work. That's how it is.

[quote=konomike]I will, however, reconsider buying any what I'm sure will be a series of expansions.
- Mike[/quote]

And here is a great point. Are we supposed to buy multiple copies of Spore for say 3 people to play? Then turn around and purchase 3 copies of each and every expansion? This is not how PC gaming supposed to work. One serial number playing at a time. Spore accounts are FREE to set up. BAM!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2332.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2332.page GMT [quote]Due to the recent release and amazing popularity of Spore, we are experiencing higher than normal e-mail volume. Rest assured we are working as quickly as we can to respond to your question and sincerely apologize for the unusual delay.[/quote]
I'll bet they really are getting a high volume of e-mails about Spore!
Like others complaining about this issue!

I just want my gf to be able to play her account on her computer like she could with the Creature Creator...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2382.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2382.page GMT
We're both absolutely sickened by EA and feel tricked by this apparent last minute change!!

Profile drama, DRM drama. This sucks EA!

/BUMP]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2397.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2397.page GMT
I would like to hear an official response and apology from EA regarding this issue (and a notification of when a patch will fix their mistake). The fact that EA isn't bothering to acknowledge the complaints about DRM and issues like this is simply a showing of the most extreme contempt for their customer base.

Please post a response to this as soon as possible. You have ripped us off by promising one thing and delivering another.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2476.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2476.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2546.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2546.page GMT
Heh, even if Bill hadn't stepped down and was personally in charge of the gaming division, I don't think a lone comment from a MS tech would set too much of your hopes into motion.

Now, a large public outcry...that could at least get the attention of those that need to hear that there are problems with this worth correcting. I can only hope they're reading their own forums.[/quote]

Well, what Microsoft needs to do is convince EA, with cold hard cash, if needed, to use Games for Windows - Live on all their PC games. [b]Then this problem never would have happened as it would have been literally impossible.[/b]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2553.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2553.page GMT
Not just the book, but the game itself has the phrase "[b]change users[/b]" in the menu. And it's broken, because you can't do that! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2558.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2558.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2573.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2573.page GMT
http://www.info.ea.com/company/company_message.php

http://www.theeca.com/contact]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2577.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2577.page GMT
Well, what Microsoft needs to do is convince EA, with cold hard cash, if needed, to use Games for Windows - Live on all their PC games. [b]Then this problem never would have happened as it would have been literally impossible.[/b][/quote]

It'll never happen. EA was very resistant to Xbox Live in the first place because MS wanted to keep everything on their servers and out of the hands of the publisher/developers. They were one of the last big names in the industry to finally come on board and start allowing online play with live on the original Xbox.

The thing is, EA and MS are both control freaks. And when you consider what an epic fail the Games For Windows label is at this point, then it's pretty much a sure thing EA won't be signing on anytime soon. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2579.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2579.page GMT

The thing is, EA and MS are both control freaks. And when you consider what an epic fail the Games For Windows label is at this point, then it's pretty much a sure thing EA won't be signing on anytime soon. [/quote]

It is not an epic fail at all. Sure, the paid idea was, but now its free to use for players, and also free to use for developers! It is also the only way to save PC gaming. I pray all the time that all games become Games for Windows - Live on the PC. Then we will never have to worry about a horrible company like EA locking down a game to only a single account. Games for Windows - Live is the only thing that can bring sanity to PC gaming and the DRM issues right now. No, I don't work for Microsoft, but I wish I did. They're the only ones with a clue.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2588.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2588.page GMT
We take turns. Or we would if this problem was fixed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2622.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2622.page GMT
Which leaves me with only one real answer: They thought they could get away with forcing people to buy multiple licenses per home except they forgot about the people that only have one computer which makes their model go completely against industry standard and common expectations.

I think EA is not answering this issue because they screwed up... and now they have to make a decision - make it obvious that this is the case by refusing to fix this - or fix this and try to say it was an "oversight".

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You'd still only be able to login using the spore account you're using on the first PC though. You couldn't register another account to it as it says it's already linked to that DVD Key.

So don't go buying another PC for that reason!

Nice to see that EA are giving you unclear information though! Can't say I'm surprised.[/quote]

Right. It binds the online web account to the installation, so sure, you can have this on your desktop and a laptop, but only under a single name. My wife an I have our own systems (we're geeky like that), so when we tried getting it on hers in hopes it was system based, rather than installation based, we were sorely disappointed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2628.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2628.page GMT
"You do not have Spore.com privileges to use this products online features."

Now I ask EA, again, [u]how do we obtain these certain privileges[/u]?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2685.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2685.page GMT
It just doesn't make sense from a data and technical perspective to create the "spore account" layer if it's just a one to one relationship with our EA account.

And if you can only create one account per computer - why in the world have a logoff / "change user" button in the options menu. It's not like WOW, where everything is server based and you just login from any where. Your content is sharable, but it's an offline mostly game. SO - if you can't create another profile.... why have this feature?

Am I missing something? or is it that obvious that they are trying to screw over us?
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And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

So the reason EA, Maxis, is limiting households to one account... To preserve server issues? I do not understand.

If there are 5 people in my house, you want to limit the amount of players to one, to save money on upgrading a server.

Yet you will continue selling Spore, intending to limit how many people can play???

That is the dumbest load of crap ever. And you, a Maxis employee, come up with something like that.

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While a bit extreme since licensing issues and fees surely come into the Games for Windows policies and could make it hard for smaller companies to publish their games, I agree there are good points for it. I've not had an issue with a game that carries that logo yet. I think how they license for the Xbox Live/360 downloads is perfect. You buy/download the game, you install the game on the PC/Console, and all profiles signed up on the system have full access. You're not promoting pirating, you're encouraging fair use.

This whole issue could seriously turn me off of EA. I've already made some purchasing choices based on the 360 being more fair to those in my house and friends coming over, I mean, I've got a 45nm Core Quad, 4 gigs of RAM and an 8800 GT. While not a power rig to be sure, and I plan on going to 8gigs of RAM and a 2nd 8800gt or better single graphics card next tax time, I'd rather play games that arn't locked down even if I do have to sacrifice some details. Bioshock, it's on my 360. Assassin's Creed, it's on my 360. Same for Mass Effect.

For the PC, I was looking forward to Spore..Sims 3, but you can bet that if this issue with Spore isn't fixed, my Sims 3 money will be going towards games made by other companies and probably for a game on the 360. Crysis Warhead was on my list, as was Dead Space for the 360. LotR Conquest, Mirrors Edge, etc. Need I go on? I don't know if EA really understands just how many 'hardcore' gamers it will alienate by what its done to this 'casual' game.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2788.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2788.page GMT
And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

What I find funny about this is that these are the same department guys who thought we'd hit only a million creations by launch day, and I doubt they planned on the 13+ million we had (last time I checked). So I'm still surprised they haven't started imposing creature sharing limits . The statement is a load of crap as well, as with multiple accounts on one PC your not getting 2x the content getting posted to the internet, as only a single person will ever be online at any given time playing & creating. Ea... I'm sorry, but you've really pulled a number on this one.

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Microsoft has done pretty well implementing the 'Live' brand into gaming. Like you I have never had problems utilizing multiple users on my 360. And that's the way it should be. I do occasionally grip about the DLC pricing and objectives, but I'm actually cool with buying new content for my favorite games.

@ everyone

This thread has some great comments and I thank everyone for voicing their opinion on this SERIOUS matter. Please keep this rolling and bumped to the top of the boards.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2831.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2831.page GMT
At any rate, here's the link for anyone curious:

[url]http://www.media-geeks.com/articles/1232/It%27s_a_Con-Spore-Acy/[/url]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2976.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/2976.page GMT http://www.ripoffreport.com/

look at the related spore stuff so far..
http://ripoffreport.com/searchresults.asp?q5=spore&q1=ALL&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0&submit2=Search%21

these guys are the best in the business for seo. they would get right up their #2 spot on google.


// i am not happy about this coverup at all. this makes me sick to my stomach that they have gone this low. all because some little baby in the crysis dept. cried. I buy all my games legit; completely! to be announced a low life directly from some made up misprint is bull.

the manual is a legal binding document because it contains the licenses to the product meaning that the wording in the document is also legal binding. just little bit words of advice.

im not going to say please.
im going to say fix thi,. nicely so my family can enjoy their own creations instead of mixing them up with my game experience.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3024.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3024.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3089.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3089.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3129.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3129.page GMT
EA could care less.

They've already shown that.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3227.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3227.page GMT
This sucks, quite frankly, especially when the manual even says it's possible. Different profiles have been a standard feature of PC games for the past decade; this is just bizarre.

EDIT: Read MaxisLucky's response; I suppose that's fair...I just wish it were made more clear. I can see the small print now, under system requirements on the box, but Regristration to me implies something different. Maybe it should say 'Account'?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3238.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3238.page GMT
They're making it a wedge issue with semantics instead of making sure this stuff was clearly explained and expressed in the first place.

Especially since in the manual it specifically says MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3257.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3257.page GMT

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bumpity]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3449.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3449.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3489.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3489.page GMT
I have read the argument from MaxisLucky about that they don't want to burden the servers to much but I really can't see how this thing can reduce server activity.
If 4 people in a family share the same computer (like my family) and used 4 accounts for Spore (which is impossible now) then they would use the servers to some degree and they would upload a bunch of creations each. If they instead shared the same account that now are the only way of doing it (as it doesn't seem to be possible to install two or more Spore games on one computer) then they would still be able to use the game the same amount of time and also be able to upload the same amount of creations to the servers. The activity on the servers would be the same so the argument fails.

And they must have calculated the load on the server before they released the game. Right now there are 1 437 391 users in the sporepedia. They have made a total of 13 738 071 creations which is actually only about 9-10 creations per user in average. Why create the sporpedia and buy a bunch of servers if they don't want us to use it.

I think that this is a big mistake for EA to make this decision, it will hurt the sales for spore and other games in the future.

over and out...

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Gimme a break. I got this game for myself, my wife and my son and you're telling me we can't individually track our achievements and creations?

EA/Maxis...please fix this game-breaking issue![/quote]

Well EA owns Blizzard so it shouldnt be very difficult to implement a technology they already own. Come to think of it EA seems to be buying everyone up....or atleast trying....cough, cough, Take 2...lol
EA seems to want to monopolize video games and at the same time try to enforce ridiculous DRM in this highly anticipated game....that and I've already gone thru 3 installations on 3 computers I have and now probably going to have to upgrade just to get the game to play properly...but NOW I will probably have to call EA just to convince them to reset my 3 installations....just ridiculous! Not the smartest marketing move IMHO. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3583.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3583.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3595.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3595.page GMT
But they wouldn't even need Blizzard - the functionality of having multiple accounts is already build into the game. They wouldn't even need to patch it, it was a last-minute decision that we were not to have multiple accounts per registration.
This issue is solely server-based - they have to activate the possibility of multiple accounts on their servers (they did so for so CC). But some of the EA executives still don't want this. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3607.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3607.page GMT
I'll have my say as I am disappointed.

I was looking for a game for my girlfriend as a B-day gift. So I went to check out what's out there and the Spore hit me. And I though - what a brilliang game for her! I've bought it and installed on my lap to give it a try! I've been curious and I've wanted to know how it works and how you do things for I know that my gf will ask me whenever she'll not know how to do something. It's always so.

Then I was comfortible due to 3 installations limit. 1 on my lap, one on her laptop and the third saved for the future.

I was amazed how the downloadable content improves the gameplay experience!

This issue of "You may have multiple Spore accounts for each installation of the game", NOT
Spoils the entire fun I can have of it, or my gf fun I may choose, What is more we would not be able to exchange contet send each other creature photos and stuff....

as I've already played then giving her the game with my accout will take away the pleasure of getting some achivements I already have!

And the feature of change user in the game is clear - thay used to allow it.

As I see it now they are trying to restrict that as all those idiotic creatures hammers their servers! Ithey may be little but still there is a millon of them in 5 days after release!

This is a problem so why wont the EA allow sharing i.e. 50 creations per account to sporepedia?! only the best designs would be avaliable ton's of crap and few really good

Anyway, I've emailed the support. Eather they are going to help me setting up the second accout for my GF or I'll have a refund.

This is SCAM to expect $100+ form a couple to play a game!

If I can't get the second account in the original price then I am happy with pirate copy without downloadable content! For the occasional Cell stage fun 50 bucks is faaaar to much! (actually I've just got Supreme Commander with Forged Alliance expansion for $10. For this price (expansion included) I am happy to get a second copy if I'd need a second account! But you need not a second account as you may happy play on LAN on same CD-KEY)


Regards,
rebbel


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Adding my voice to everyone else's here.
In my opinion, they should have limited the shared content (to reduce server loads) and actually have allowed multiple accounts per registration which is one registration per cd key(like the game is clearly meant to be played). One of the things I actually like is the play of the game, but I don't want my fiance playing my account and earning the badges I was aiming for.

Honestly, I bought my game 3 days ago and have been playing the entire time (yes, I don't have a life outside my wheelchair) except for 4 hour naps (3 of them). My fiance wanted to know what the new game was that had me all excited in a tizzy; at least, he wanted his own account until 45 minutes ago when I tried to set up an account for him to play, (on MY machine, though it is about time for my nap!) and lo, and behold, that function does not exist although the key/button for it does. How is it that the 40 games I have from Big Fish, the ever-wonderful GuildWars, and World of Warcraft all have the ability to have multiple users, yet Spore doesn't?

My fiance and I are two joe schmoes that barely saved up enough to buy one game (though that was the Galactic Edition $30 extra) and we don't own a second computer to play on. He created content in Creature Creator, just like I did. He wanted to get the same badges that I hollered about every time I got one (all throughout the house too!). The only thing he didn't do was buy another [b]ENTIRE[/b] computer and another [b]ENTIRE[/b] box of the game (which according to people on this forum, wouldn't have worked out anyway).

I will remind everyone here that Spore is the game that SciFi.com's Casey Lynch wrote "[u][i]The 1up.com Web site named the title best of show; the Game Critics Awards named it best original game, best PC game and best simulation game; and IGN.com called it the PC game of the show and the most innovative design.[/i][/u]"
For a game with such HIGH qualifications, I have some pretty basic questions:
Are the programming changes asking too much?
Are the changes really so big and so monstrous that the Maxis and EA couldn't have changed the game so that it works the way that the accompanying documentation reads?
Is it that big of a deal to just change the darn thing so that people aren't disgruntled enough to write off EA and Maxis altogether?
If this many people are on this forum (the forum everyone finds if they Google the word SPORE, ya know, the one that is named for the GAME) are disgruntled, how many more of the masses are holding their peace?
And of course, one more for the anarchists:
Can the government of the USA pull our rights and say that the Bill of Rights was/has a misprint, because it is just an accompanying document to the constitution?

Not sorry for the long read, but thanks to those who actually read it all.
[b]*EA/Maxis* LISTEN TO US[/b]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3718.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3718.page GMT
Some of us are absolutely livid over this... I have the game installed but can't start playing until this is fixed. My wife and I both want to play - it was meant to be a game we could both enjoy but we can't start playing until this is fixed.

I swear, if they don't fix this, there will never be an EA game in our house again.

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I expect EA to fix this problem, NOW, or this will become a much bigger deal.[/quote]

Ya man! go! if you go legal I want in! put me on the class action list, whoo ha! get me some extra accounts yah!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3790.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3790.page GMT
I swear, if they don't fix this, there will never be an EA game in our house again.

[/quote]

Whoah dude... but but but... EA owns like EVERY THING!~ that's quite a vow there buddy.... it pretty much is the same as saying, " I will only have games made by Blizzard, and Bungie in our house!... until Bungie gets bought by EA... then just Blizzard games! amen!

I kid, I kid, but... EA does sure own a lot of game companies that's for sure.


(n guys... seriously, there's no need to list all the game co's I didn't put in there - I Know there's allot. this was 'joking'.)]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3803.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3803.page GMT
Even assuming I was willing to buy 3 more full copies of the game (as stated earlier, I was ready to do this, but not anymore), would it work?

For those families who only have one computer to share, will the game even ALLOW you to associate multiple keys on the installation so that everyone can have thier own profile?

Or am I also expected to allocate 20-30 GIGS of harddrive space to physically install the game 3-4 times on the SAME machine (if that would even work?!?!) in addition to laying out several hundred dollars for the game copies?
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We got a good answer from the EA guys though. Oh hang on!! No we didn't.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3837.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3837.page GMT Whoah dude... but but but... EA owns like EVERY THING!~ that's quite a vow there buddy.... it pretty much is the same as saying, " I will only have games made by Blizzard, and Bungie in our house!... until Bungie gets bought by EA... then just Blizzard games! amen!

I kid, I kid, but... EA does sure own a lot of game companies that's for sure.

(n guys... seriously, there's no need to list all the game co's I didn't put in there - I Know there's allot. this was 'joking'.)[/quote]

I totally hear ya, but I mean what else is there - I have a game here that I paid money for, and I can't play it because of this profile issue. Neither one of us want to play unless we can both enjoy it together.

If EA isn't going to listen to their customers, and we can expect more of this from EA... then yeah.. I guess I'll be limited to console games.. For me, it comes down to: why pay for something that I can't use

See what I mean... Cheers man




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Nothing to see here folks

P.S. Here's a thought for families sharing accounts: Use the tagging feature to differentiate between everyone's creations.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3898.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/3898.page GMT
Here's an official answer to my request to Customer Service of having multiple accounts on one single registred game:

[quote=EA Customer Service]Greetings,

Thank you for writing to Electronic Arts.

We apologize for any inconvenience but unfortunately, there is no way to create more that one account with any registration code. Moreover, registration code can only be used once to create one account and registration cannot be transferred between account.[/quote]

Here's what EA Customer Service had to say about the multi accounts in Creature Creator:

[quote=EA Customer Service]Further, Spore Creature Creator is a tool which only provides you the ability to create creature. This is not actually a game. Thus, there is not such registration restrictions with Spore Creature Creator and you can create multiple accounts.

Sincerely,

EARepCaine
Player Relations
Electronic Arts[/quote]

These 2 quotes put together are the last answer I got. The first answer was from "customer support". Note that this last one is from Player Relation. EA, P/R won't save you. You need developers to work on this, not PR...



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I expect EA to fix this problem, NOW, or this will become a much bigger deal.[/quote]

Ya man! go! if you go legal I want in! put me on the class action list, whoo ha! get me some extra accounts yah![/quote]

Funny. I just took the time to write a few respectable class action law firms. Who knows what they'll think about this matter. I'll hit up some more law firms periodically throughout the following days.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4067.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4067.page GMT
But people screamed about that DRM being too restrictive, so they reduced it to only phoning home on installation. This makes it impossible for them to validate that you haven't installed the game on a couple friend's computers too. So they had to tie the serial# to your online login instead.

It's not ideal, but I can see their problem. This is the first Massively Online Single Player game, so it's new ground. People are used to single-player sim games being unbound by online restrictions. With The Sims, my wife and I can share the same game and have our own logins. But we can't share Spore the same way, so it seems more restrictive.

But we can't both share one World of Warcraft account because that's how online games work, so this doesn't seem so unusual.

As for those who claim false advertising or breach of contract, please remember that the misprint is in the manual, which is not a contract. Nothing on the box or in the EULA guarantees you multiple accounts.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4105.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4105.page GMT
For those families who only have one computer to share, will the game even ALLOW you to associate multiple keys on the installation so that everyone can have thier own profile?

[/quote]

Yes, this will work. However, since once you register in-game, the register button disappears, you will have to associate your second and third CD keys with their respective accounts some other way. I assume you can do it online, but I haven't tried.

Once the accounts are registered and active, you can switch between them in a single install of Spore simply by logging out and logging in with the desired account.

Honestly, the only reasons I can think of to want separate accounts would be if:

1) You have multiple players that are likely to screw with each other's game saves because they are jerks
2) For some reason you want to make sure that only your own creations show up early in the game as opposing tribes instead of those created by other players on that machine.

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I've just issued a refund request.
I'll keep you informed how it was responded.

I think I will to buy the game again but this time I am going to install it right away on my girlfriend's laptop. and set up with her account with her. I want this to be a gift not a half valued souvenir.

This policy of oneaccount per key sux!
limit uploaded data not the user accounts of they use a LEGIT COPY OF THE GAME!

you know you fight with piracy by making things affordable.... 200$ for a game for a 4ppl family is NOT affordable unless you wipe your bottom with bucks!

Consider this you greedy EA bastards.

Regards,
rebbel]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4127.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4127.page GMT
I want every EA/Maxis rep to have this post in their face everytime they log into their forums...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4130.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4130.page GMT
"Inside is a copy of WIndows Vista for installation on your PC"

Inside you find no DVD

and they reply "sorry was a misprint"

should have read "You need to download the contents and it will cost you a further £30 to setup a download account for this software", would you be mad ?



EA = ELECTRONIC AR**OLES]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4133.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4133.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4138.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4138.page GMT
To me it seems as though EA doesn't plan to change anything regarding their account-policy.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4145.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4145.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4146.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4146.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4178.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4178.page GMT
To me it seems as though EA doesn't plan to change anything regarding their account-policy.[/quote]

Give me a link to german and polish version so I can check them out!
asap!
thx

EDIT. got it. I try to locate it...

EDIT 2 OK so far I've located the "error" in all 4 (UK,US,DE,PL) versions of manual (downloaded on the 9.9.2008 )
screenshot will follow soon

how odd that this [b]misspelling[/b] is present to all the language versions they have?

actually both screenshots as I'll show a sceenshot from what I'm downloading now as well.



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[url]http://files.ea.com/downloads/eacore...RE/Manuals.zip[/url]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4199.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4199.page GMT
They can change the online documentation all they want, I have the original manual sitting in front of me. Still says I can have MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS.

At this point I almost just want to find a pirated copy so my wife and I can both play online. However, I don't want to screw someone else by taking their registration code so they can get NO ACCOUNTS online.

Come one EA. Give us something.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4221.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4221.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4246.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4246.page GMT
Yeah Ea is still full of work fixing things and this can also be one that they are fixing]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4252.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4252.page GMT
Not saying this is a great fix or anything like that, but it could possibly be a work around for some people that might ease some problems. Just make sure all your household accounts from the creature creator are buddies and that will allow everyone to use your existing characters.

Again I know it's not a fix to the problem but it does sound like a decent workaround. Also I know it won't help those who have multiple computers, but it's better than nothing....]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4302.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4302.page GMT
Not saying this is a great fix or anything like that, but it could possibly be a work around for some people that might ease some problems. Just make sure all your household accounts from the creature creator are buddies and that will allow everyone to use your existing characters.

Again I know it's not a fix to the problem but it does sound like a decent workaround. Also I know it won't help those who have multiple computers, but it's better than nothing....[/quote]


I see the point in two people sharing a game...
However we r talking about online content here. Publishing and downloading it. Game functionality stays intact.

the problem is present if:
1) you got a little brother who will do explicit creatures and effectively will have your account blocked.
2) someone accientaly deleted/overwrited your own creations/planets
3) you have two machines (laptop for yourself, PC for kids) then you need to choose which of them will not have the online content.

In my situation I hoped I'll be able to share my creations with my gf, (exchange pics, creatures ect) as its fun and we often live separately due to our lifestyle. It's fun if you can have a common game you can play and share even being miles away!

If I'd know such a game would cost me more than $100 I would never have it bought (as there are other games, of course different, but still giving me the same for less $$$) Counter-Strike for instance I am not entirely sure if my GF can compete me in CS

regards,
rebbel ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4332.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4332.page GMT
Not saying this is a great fix or anything like that, but it could possibly be a work around for some people that might ease some problems. Just make sure all your household accounts from the creature creator are buddies and that will allow everyone to use your existing characters.

Again I know it's not a fix to the problem but it does sound like a decent workaround. Also I know it won't help those who have multiple computers, but it's better than nothing....[/quote]


I see the point in two people sharing a game...
However we r talking about online content here. Publishing and downloading it. Game functionality stays intact.

the problem is present if:
1) you got a little brother who will do explicit creatures and effectively will have your account blocked.
2) someone accientaly deleted/overwrited your own creations/planets
3) you have two machines (laptop for yourself, PC for kids) then you need to choose which of them will not have the online content.

In my situation I hoped I'll be able to share my creations with my gf, (exchange pics, creatures ect) as its fun and we often live separately due to our lifestyle. It's fun if you can have a common game you can play and share even being miles away!

If I'd know such a game would cost me more than $100 I would never have it bought (as there are other games, of course different, but still giving me the same for less $$$) Counter-Strike for instance I am not entirely sure if my GF can compete me in CS

regards,
rebbel [/quote]

As I did mention, I know it's not a complete fix and it's not like having multiple log ins. But it might help some families get around the one log in problem for now. Just trying to help cool down some tempers.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4346.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4346.page GMT
Not saying this is a great fix or anything like that, but it could possibly be a work around for some people that might ease some problems. Just make sure all your household accounts from the creature creator are buddies and that will allow everyone to use your existing characters.

Again I know it's not a fix to the problem but it does sound like a decent workaround. Also I know it won't help those who have multiple computers, but it's better than nothing....[/quote]


Once again, nobody here is talking about running multiple profiles (accounts) online SIMULTANEOUSLY. That would/should/does require multiple purchases of the game, multiple accounts, multiple cd-keys, and multiple machines.

What folks want and should have is the ability to create multiple profiles for use ONE AT A TIME.

This is really nothing more than a way to manage/organize/seperate your creation content to the person who actually CREATED it.

Not allowing multiple profiles is in no way a "performance/load" issue, nor is it a "misprint". It's simply EA being draconian silly on trying to force multiple purchases of the game.

If I create 100 creatures and my wife creates 100 creatures, then it makes NO load/server difference whether or not those you end up with 200 creatures created by Soulwind (now) or 100 by Soulwind and 100 by Soulwind's Wife. It's STILL 200 creatures.

The only thing this does is create personal content organization headaches for the end-users and THAT'S IT !!!!
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Not saying this is a great fix or anything like that, but it could possibly be a work around for some people that might ease some problems. Just make sure all your household accounts from the creature creator are buddies and that will allow everyone to use your existing characters.

Again I know it's not a fix to the problem but it does sound like a decent workaround. Also I know it won't help those who have multiple computers, but it's better than nothing....[/quote]


Once again, nobody here is talking about running multiple profiles (accounts) online SIMULTANEOUSLY. That would/should/does require multiple purchases of the game, multiple accounts, multiple cd-keys, and multiple machines.

What folks want and should have is the ability to create multiple profiles for use ONE AT A TIME.

This is really nothing more than a way to manage/organize/seperate your creation content to the person who actually CREATED it.

Not allowing multiple profiles is in no way a "performance/load" issue, nor is it a "misprint". It's simply EA being draconian silly on trying to force multiple purchases of the game.

If I create 100 creatures and my wife creates 100 creatures, then it makes NO load/server difference whether or not those you end up with 200 creatures created by Soulwind (now) or 100 by Soulwind and 100 by Soulwind's Wife. It's STILL 200 creatures.

The only thing this does is create personal content organization headaches for the end-users and THAT'S IT !!!!
[/quote]

And again I have said that I know it's not a solution, but it CAN be a workaround for some people. Did I say everyone? No. Did I say I hoped it might help a few? Yes. This was not an argument for what was to be the reason why, it was simply a suggestion in which might help some people to play the game the obviously like.

Please learn to read and comprehend.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4371.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4371.page GMT
MaxisLucky suggests that if each installation allowed even a single extra user, their server capacities would be maxed out with creatures. Technically speaking they should have already considered this possibility, with slots for 8 save games. 8 games means 8 evolutionary creations by... you guessed it... 8 possible users. Since more games can't be saved, it makes no difference if one user takes up 8 slots or 8 users take up one slot a piece.

BTW, anyone that has screenshots/scans from the international language manuals, please PM me. I'd like to get those JPGs and add them to my article.

Thanks!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4418.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4418.page GMT
Not saying this is a great fix or anything like that, but it could possibly be a work around for some people that might ease some problems. Just make sure all your household accounts from the creature creator are buddies and that will allow everyone to use your existing characters.

Again I know it's not a fix to the problem but it does sound like a decent workaround. Also I know it won't help those who have multiple computers, but it's better than nothing....[/quote]

My problem with this is, I’m an experienced gamer and my wife isn’t. However we both like actually achieving what we’re working towards. I tried to start a game in her galaxy, but since she’d already unlocked things to the 4th stage, I could effectively start there. The genetic achievements are there, etc. I want to be able to earn and unlock things myself, not help her out, or be kept from getting things myself because she has more time to play than I do.

I do see what you’re saying, but it’s a half-solution that isn’t giving us what I feel is our money’s worth for the game. –shrug- Similarly, my wife and I want to be able to do and share things online separately with our friends, instead of having to share the same profile.
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Playing on different planets just means you're using different saves.

You are still sharing all the online content (achievements and such) and sporepedia information/catelogs.

Does playing on different saves allow more than one person to play? Yes.

But that's always been the case in ANY game.

Does playing on different saves allow legitimate users to organize/seperate thier content and achievements? NO.


I read and comprehend just fine thank you very much.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4436.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4436.page GMT
Playing on different planets just means you're using different saves.

You are still sharing all the online content (achievements and such) and sporepedia information/catelogs.

Does playing on different saves allow more than one person to play? Yes.

But that's always been the case in ANY game.

Does playing on different saves allow legitimate users to organize/seperate thier content and achievements? NO.


I read and comprehend just fine thank you very much.
[/quote]

It may not be a workaround for you. Again I didn't say it would work for everyone. But it apparently is working for some people since they are saying that is what they are doing. That gives you the point of a workaround.

But since it isn't exactly what you want it to be, you disparage it and take our your frustrations on someone that is just trying to help out some others.

I applaud you.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4455.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4455.page GMT
MaxisLucky suggests that if each installation allowed even a single extra user, their server capacities would be maxed out with creatures. Technically speaking they should have already considered this possibility, with slots for 8 save games. 8 games means 8 evolutionary creations by... you guessed it... 8 possible users. Since more games can't be saved, it makes no difference if one user takes up 8 slots or 8 users take up one slot a piece.

[/quote]

And that is just a flat out LIE from EA. That statement doesn't even scan as reasonable, much less true.

There is ZERO functional difference if all of my save slots / content are created by me or me and my wife.

It's the SAME AMOUNT of content. It's just organized/seperated by different user names.

SO IF EVERYONE WENT OUT AND BOUGHT ANOTHER COPY OF THE GAME, THAT WOULD BE BAD AND STOPPED BY EA????????

(or would they quite happily accept that with no "oh noes the server will get overloaded" issues?)

What then, only odd-numbered game purchases are allowed online and even-numbered purchases aren't?

Wow, EA, guess you actually DON'T want to sell a few million copies then Huh?

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[img]http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c225/berteh/sporescreen.jpg[/img]

Doesn't exactly seem like a misprint now...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4501.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4501.page GMT
The ONLY way anyone unhappy here is going to change anything is to contact legal representation and try to build a class-action lawsuit against EA.

Don't expect industry sites to pick this up and report it. EA is WAY too big and influential. No game sites or magazine wants to have EA on their bad side.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4518.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4518.page GMT
Speaks pretty loudly for me.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4531.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4531.page GMT
Speaks pretty loudly for me.[/quote]


Oh we got an answer alright.

The answer was:

We here at EA don't care that the game was OBVIOUSLY coded to support multiple user profiles.

Tough noogies.

Go buy another copy of the game AND another computer if you want to actually be able to organize your content.

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4565.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4565.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4586.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4586.page GMT
I agree with most everyone here. There is no way this can be a misprint. Any non-subscription based online game does not bind keys to individual accounts. Rather, they restrict accounts so that the same key may not be used simultaneously.

The limited installations are over zealous, but I can deal with it. This I cannot. Better yet, since EA is restricting us to a certain number of installs, why can't we have that many accounts logged in simultaneously? If we can only install the game three times, we might as well be able to log into it three times. Right?

Regardless, this is very large issue and I hope EA actually honors the print that they have released.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4611.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4611.page GMT
Playing on different planets just means you're using different saves.

You are still sharing all the online content (achievements and such) and sporepedia information/catelogs.

Does playing on different saves allow more than one person to play? Yes.

But that's always been the case in ANY game.

Does playing on different saves allow legitimate users to organize/seperate thier content and achievements? NO.


I read and comprehend just fine thank you very much.
[/quote]

It may not be a workaround for you. Again I didn't say it would work for everyone. But it apparently is working for some people since they are saying that is what they are doing. That gives you the point of a workaround.

But since it isn't exactly what you want it to be, you disparage it and take our your frustrations on someone that is just trying to help out some others.

I applaud you.[/quote]

cysgodi - dont bother trying to help people...apparently they dont care unless its a solution for them. they dont care if your workaround doesnt affect them. "oh, that workaround doesnt work for ME! so shut up!"

thanks for your efforts, i as well, am trying to help people on this forum.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4622.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4622.page GMT
If I have knowledge that will help someone new I'll still put forth the effort as I'm sure you will too.
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Appriciate this suggestion - but I feel like the others. We should be able to have our own profile to track achievements. My wife doesn't want to feel leftout or playing in my shadow. This was supposed to be something we could enjoy doing together but still have separate our own game data - without buying another computer.

This is almost the same as saying that each family member must have their own computer and copy of the license. Imagine if Mac/XP/Vista could have only one login, imagine if everyone had to buy a separate XBOX or PS3 machine.

[b]EA is trying to change the way licensing works by forcing each person (instead of each computer) to have a license. This is not the industry standard, and in fact - I feel tricked in to buying something. It's like a car, you just assume it's going to have a passenger seat if the car has two doors.[/b]

You buy it, you get home, and you're really disappointed... and now you don't even want the game anymore, but it's not that easy to return once you open it.

Yes, I totally feel tricked. Nice Job EA!

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My daughter and I bought Spore on release day. I don't understand how to access my account from my computer. I should have the right to purchase and play Spore to it's full intended potential. But EA still completely ignores this issue. The worlds largest game publisher can't even respond to my emails.

I would appreciate and answer... HOW IN THE WORLD CAN I PLAY MY SPORE ACCOUNT? WHAT ARE MY OPTIONS?

I'm tired of the silent treatment. I did not wrong EA in any way, but for some unknown reason, they COMPLETELY ignore me.

These tactics are gutless to say the least. This is no way to conduct customer service.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4670.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4670.page GMT
It's not that we don't care, it's just that for me, when any type of workaround is suggested, it fels like we are giving in to EA a little bit at a time. Maybe making it so that on less person might not be so upset about what EA has done. And yes, I do want people to stay upset about this until something is done by EA!

However, people should not get angry about cysgodi's suggestion or toward cysgodi. I'm just trying to say possibly why there was such a reaction in the first place.

Its not that cysgodi's suggestion is bad in any way. In fact, my family is using that method right now, just so we can play Spore at all! So thank you cysgodi for shareing good advice .

If I may add to this though, cysgodi: have you tried playing Spore on different Windows accounts? If you do that, then each family member can have their own galaxy!
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4692.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4692.page GMT
Yeah me too. It's just a real bummer because we should be enjoying the game, right! But I'm not going to leave my wife behind or buy another computer and license... All of these bad and non-standard decisions from EA is ruining the game's potential for anyone with a family.

Best,]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4694.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4694.page GMT
I really have no need to do this as currently I am the only one in my household that is playing the game. I do have it installed on two different computers but I know that is not the same thing.

Also in no way do I want people to think they are giving in to EA. I was just pointing out that for some family's that have younger children who just want to play it could possibly be a nice way to let them enjoy the game.

edited because I can't spell lol ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4708.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4708.page GMT If I may add to this though, cysgodi: have you tried playing Spore on different Windows accounts? If you do that, then each family member can have their own galaxy!
[/quote]

This is how my wife and I played. We have a Mac, so I created a user account on the machine for her, and she was able to play it just fine (though she burned a 2nd install upon startup of Spore), albeit on my Spore account. If it weren't for the fact that the achievements she obtained during her single 7-hour play session that first day are forever unlocked in my account and that all the creatures/buildings she made are also forever locked to my account, I probably would have played the game more. I fooled around in Space for a couple hours, but I haven't gone back to it in 3 days. I'm just so pissed at this issue.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4714.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4714.page GMT http://www.info.ea.com/company/company_message.php

Point them to this forum thread, send them an image of Darth Irish Guy's screenshot on the thread page before this.

DEMAND that they fix this issue. Remind them than back in 1999, they addressed player grievances against Ultima IX by sending EVERYONE who bought the game a new install CD. Ask them if they are pale shadow of the company they once were by pulling this on us!

I would Like DarthIrishGuy's screenshot posted ALL OVER THE INTERNET!

And yes, let's START a class action lawsut. They really work! I've been on the WINNING side of two such suits.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4735.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4735.page GMT
Not saying this is a great fix or anything like that, but it could possibly be a work around for some people that might ease some problems. Just make sure all your household accounts from the creature creator are buddies and that will allow everyone to use your existing characters.

Again I know it's not a fix to the problem but it does sound like a decent workaround. Also I know it won't help those who have multiple computers, but it's better than nothing....[/quote]

This is not a workaround. The above scenario is the problem - I have not played this game AT ALL. If I log into my daughters account and play, I am tainting her experience, and mine.

I will not pollute her account by taking away achievements, adding my own buddies, using up HER save spots. It's not right for me to take away from her game. It's not right that EA expects families to share one account in Spore, when we all had our own personal accounts in Creature Creator.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4736.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4736.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4749.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4749.page GMT
And, to the fella who said my threat to not buy EA games anymore was an empty one... you obviously don't know me well enough to make that sort of assumption. I ASSURE YOU - there will be no more EA titles purchases in my household after this. As far as I'm concerned, I was lied to by EA in regards to accounts/installs.

Their DRM does absolutely nothing to prevent the piracy of this game. All it does is punish the people who paid for it. Frankly, I think their move is anti-family and incredibly short-sighted.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4769.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4769.page GMT
What's this?!? You use one of the installs when you create another account!?! I didn't know this. How would I find out how many installs I have left?

There are three accounts on my computer, but they were all there when I installed the game. I will NOT be happy if I have zero installs left of Spore.


Anyway:

[quote=heints]This is not a workaround. The above scenario is the problem - I have not played this game AT ALL. If I log into my daughters account and play, I am tainting her experience, and mine. [/quote]
[quote=cysgodi]It could possibly be a workaround for certain people. Just because it's not for you does not lessen it's validity. I want EA to fix it as much as you do, but for now it might help a few people.[/quote]

Please, let's not get worked up over definitions and semantics. We ALL agree that we want EA to do something about this account problem, so we [u]need[/u] to focus on that if we want anything to be done!
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4806.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4806.page GMT And they must have calculated the load on the server before they released the game. Right now there are 1 437 391 users in the sporepedia. They have made a total of 13 738 071 creations which is actually only about 9-10 creations per user in average. Why create the sporpedia and buy a bunch of servers if they don't want us to use it.
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i just took a look at my spore creations, and they were appx 21 kb in size each. i did a little calculation, and the sporepedia is appx 3 Tb in size so far. thats not big for a server... and some computers can have all of that on their hard drive. if, say, 500k people were online at the same time, the load wouldnt be that bad because its not like they are constantly uploading creatures, only when they make one, which STILL isnt even a mb per person, so i highly doubt they are having bandwidth issues...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4811.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4811.page GMT
What's this?!? You use one of the installs when you create another account!?! I didn't know this. How would I find out how many installs I have left?

There are three accounts on my computer, but they were all there when I installed the game. I will NOT be happy if I have zero installs left of Spore.
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I am only assuming that's how it worked, because when she started it up under her Mac account, it asked for the serial number again.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4812.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4812.page GMT
Hmmm. I wonder if it only does that if you create a new account after Spore is installed, or just with Macs, or both.


[quote=elektrodragon]And yes, let's START a class action lawsut. They really work! I've been on the WINNING side of two such suits. [/quote]

Well, if there is any legal basis to this, I'm for it. Though I really do think if we keep this thread going EA or someone with influnce will notice and do something. I guess I'm an idealist. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4848.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4848.page GMT
...tee hee... ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4876.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4876.page GMT
Precisely.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4895.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4895.page GMT
However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation.[/quote]

That section in the manual was a misprint and will be corrected in future printings of the manual. There is one Spore registration/account per game/serial code so you are correct in that you cannot make multiple accounts at this time. I have sent your guys' feedback to the game team though since I can understand the desire to share a game on a system that you entire family uses.

~Violet[/quote]

You know, I just can't swallow this one. I bought the game because my wife isn't much of a gamer but she's been excited for Spore since I brought back footage from two E3 shows ago. We were told that we could each have our own account on the game, and the text in the manual confirmed it. Now we're being told it was a misprint? Why can't you guys just be upfront and honest and tell us that you pulled that feature but forgot to amend the manual? It's obvious that's what happened.

The DRM is a nightmare, but the flat out lying to your consumers is what is really inexcusable. Yes, the game is great and I'm enjoying it, but definitely at a diminished level due to my wife and I having to share an account. Inexcusable, EA, simply inexcusable.

So, are we going to get full refunds if we decide not to keep the game?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4909.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4909.page GMT
I know it may seem silly but the online component is nothing more than an automated content downloader that's all there are no special treats or gimmicks other than the achievements involved. But seriously having paid $50 to play and have spore... is it really worth the $50 USD for just having separate achievements and content downloads? To be honest I had to turn mine to buddy only because I'm on a quad core with 3gigs of RAM and at just over 2k in my everything sporepedia its actually taking around 20-30 seconds to load it up and I can personally live with the maxis creations.

Anyway I hope no one jumps down my throat or thinks I'm being condescending because I'm not. Just revealing that the only component one person maybe missing is the online component which isn't required by a long stretch. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4944.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4944.page GMT
(And yes I did refresh several times before reposting)]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4947.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4947.page GMT The DRM is a nightmare, but the flat out lying to your consumers is what is really inexcusable. Yes, the game is great and I'm enjoying it, but definitely at a diminished level due to my wife and I having to share an account. Inexcusable, EA, simply inexcusable.[/quote]

I really feel like this is an attempt to license software to the person instead of the machine in an effort to extort multiple licenses from families. There is no other explination that makes any real sense. Database space? Misprints?

There is so much evidence that they originally supported multiple profiles [which is what every other game supports].

I would like to see a class action on this for game refunds...
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4964.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4964.page GMT
Is Cosumerist a big enough industry site for you?:
http://consumerist.com/5048556/want-more-than-one-account-on-yourspore-game-buy-another-copy-sucker

Comlpete with a goatse spore.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4969.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4969.page GMT
I know it may seem silly but the online component is nothing more than an automated content downloader that's all there are no special treats or gimmicks other than the achievements involved. But seriously having paid $50 to play and have spore... is it really worth the $50 USD for just having separate achievements and content downloads? To be honest I had to turn mine to buddy only because I'm on a quad core with 3gigs of RAM and at just over 2k in my everything sporepedia its actually taking around 20-30 seconds to load it up and I can personally live with the maxis creations.

Anyway I hope no one jumps down my throat or thinks I'm being condescending because I'm not. Just revealing that the only component one person maybe missing is the online component which isn't required by a long stretch. [/quote]

Don't worry ghost someone will jump down your throat because it's not the solution they are looking for But it won't be me. It's also an interesting idea but I doubt it will work for the most vocal because they don't want to have to share achievements that have been unlocked.

Good thought though.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4970.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4970.page GMT
You're missing the point. These are feasible solutions, but they are not solutions to the core issue at hand. We're not looking for a solution within the program itself because it's abundantly clear that having multiple accounts using the same installation was originally intended by the designers, and EA's activation/registration scheme is thwarting that. We want the original functionality restored the way it was intended.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4992.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4992.page GMT
You're missing the point. These are feasible solutions, but they are not solutions to the core issue at hand. We're not looking for a solution within the program itself because it's abundantly clear that having multiple accounts using the same installation was originally intended by the designers, and EA's activation/registration scheme is thwarting that. We want the original functionality restored the way it was intended.[/quote]

Sigh, no Hide I'm not missing the point. I totally understand the point. But until EA either decides to end their silence by saying one way or the other, coming up with different approaches to the problem [u]may[/u] help a few people. What is the harm in that?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4997.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/4997.page GMT
You're missing the point. These are feasible solutions, but they are not solutions to the core issue at hand. We're not looking for a solution within the program itself because it's abundantly clear that having multiple accounts using the same installation was originally intended by the designers, and EA's activation/registration scheme is thwarting that. We want the original functionality restored the way it was intended.[/quote]

Sigh, no Hide I'm not missing the point. I totally understand the point. But until EA either decides to end their silence by saying one way or the other, coming up with different approaches to the problem [u]may[/u] help a few people. What is the harm in that?[/quote]

NO HARM!

case closed. haha.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5008.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5008.page GMT
I know it may seem silly but the online component is nothing more than an automated content downloader that's all there are no special treats or gimmicks other than the achievements involved. But seriously having paid $50 to play and have spore... is it really worth the $50 USD for just having separate achievements and content downloads? To be honest I had to turn mine to buddy only because I'm on a quad core with 3gigs of RAM and at just over 2k in my everything sporepedia its actually taking around 20-30 seconds to load it up and I can personally live with the maxis creations.

Anyway I hope no one jumps down my throat or thinks I'm being condescending because I'm not. Just revealing that the only component one person maybe missing is the online component which isn't required by a long stretch. [/quote]

At least for me and mine - it's two things:

The the achievements and separation of game data is the main problem for us. She wants to have her own game data, and I want to have my own. So the game is really unplayable for us.

Secondly - it's the feeling that EA is doing something no one else is really doing. Licensing the software to the person and not the machine which forces families to buy mulitple licenses and computers. Obviously we wouldn't be complaining if we knew this upfront, we would have simply choose not to buy the game. But [whether intentionally or not] - their creator software allowed for multiple profiles, their manual said it supported mulitple profiles, and they made no effort to make it abundently clear that they were going against industry standard...

In my opinion - I think most people feel cheated because they did not get what they thought they were paying for and when it comes to something like this you don't just assume they would do this. When I buy a new computer keyboard, I don't ask if it has all of the letters a-z... I just assume it does. In this case EA removed the letter 'f' and the letter 'u'.

Cheers!


]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5010.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5010.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5018.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5018.page GMT
Well, there are a few problems with that idea. One of the things we are trying to accomplish is to have seperate accounts on the same computer. A lot of families have only a single gaming computer, like me and my family, so this wouldn't work.

Also, installing twice will burn up two of the three installation allowed for Spore by the DRM. Plus, there would still be one online account. I don't know about anyone else, but my family wants their creations to be associated with their own account.

But thank you for the suggestion . We need more people looking for bright sides right now. Maybe someone will eventually come up with something that will fix this mess. Doubtful though.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5023.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5023.page GMT Sigh, no Hide I'm not missing the point. I totally understand the point. But until EA either decides to end their silence by saying one way or the other, coming up with different approaches to the problem [u]may[/u] help a few people. What is the harm in that?[/quote]

The "harm" in coming up with workarounds that don't fix the central problem is twofold: 1) EA will view these workarounds as solutions to the problem and will continue to repeat them as the "solution" to cover their asses, and 2) players may take these workaround as solutions that keep them from being fired up about how badly EA has screwed up and it will hurt our cause in getting this fixed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5026.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5026.page GMT
I know it may seem silly but the online component is nothing more than an automated content downloader that's all there are no special treats or gimmicks other than the achievements involved. But seriously having paid $50 to play and have spore... is it really worth the $50 USD for just having separate achievements and content downloads? To be honest I had to turn mine to buddy only because I'm on a quad core with 3gigs of RAM and at just over 2k in my everything sporepedia its actually taking around 20-30 seconds to load it up and I can personally live with the maxis creations.

Anyway I hope no one jumps down my throat or thinks I'm being condescending because I'm not. Just revealing that the only component one person maybe missing is the online component which isn't required by a long stretch. [/quote]

At least for me and mine - it's two things:

The the achievements and separation of game data is the main problem for us. She wants to have her own game data, and I want to have my own. So the game is really unplayable for us.

Secondly - it's the feeling that EA is doing something no one else is really doing. Licensing the software to the person and not the machine which forces families to buy mulitple licenses and computers. Obviously we wouldn't be complaining if we knew this upfront, we would have simply choose not to buy the game. But [whether intentionally or not] - their creator software allowed for multiple profiles, their manual said it supported mulitple profiles, and they made no effort to make it abundently clear that they were going against industry standard...

In my opinion - I think most people feel cheated because they did not get what they thought they were paying for and when it comes to something like this you don't just assume they would do this. When I buy a new computer keyboard, I don't ask if it has all of the letters a-z... I just assume it does. In this case EA removed the letter 'f' and the letter 'u'.

Cheers!


[/quote]

Well I am really sorry that it is as bad for you as you say. Though at this point I am pretty sure EA isn't going to admit fault because to do so means possible compensation. There's a lot that stinks about this game which is really sad because it is a great game and really its not the game itself that stinks just everything surrounding it. As far as the details of what it supported and what it didn't is really in many ways up for interpretation. I've actually seen I think 3-4 different interpretations of what was said in the manual and whenever there is an inconclusive interpretation behind a legal document... it tends to be thrown out. Which means that really all of the people claiming legal action and this and that are probably barking up the wrong tree.

And no offense but everyone got what they paid for with Spore... they have been fighting it every step of the way the moment they knew what was in motion. Didn't do any good what so ever I'd say to everyone if the options provided here aren't enough... take it up with EA's support. If needbe demand a refund. They're the only ones you can get a refund from at this point.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5029.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5029.page GMT Sigh, no Hide I'm not missing the point. I totally understand the point. But until EA either decides to end their silence by saying one way or the other, coming up with different approaches to the problem [u]may[/u] help a few people. What is the harm in that?[/quote]

I think your words are valuable and may helpful for a few people, but some people who haven't had time to calm down are probably still frustrated at EA and may be feeling like you're some how sticking up for the bad guy.

I just hope everyone remembers that we have keep composed and focused in order to make sure that EA understands why we're frustrated. - We have to work together.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5037.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5037.page GMT Sigh, no Hide I'm not missing the point. I totally understand the point. But until EA either decides to end their silence by saying one way or the other, coming up with different approaches to the problem [u]may[/u] help a few people. What is the harm in that?[/quote]

The "harm" in coming up with workarounds that don't fix the central problem is twofold: 1) EA will view these workarounds as solutions to the problem and will continue to repeat them as the "solution" to cover their asses, and 2) players may take these workaround as solutions that keep them from being fired up about how badly EA has screwed up and it will hurt our cause in getting this fixed.[/quote]

Dang Hide, do you always go around disparaging everything and everyone? If you really think that such a small workaround that may only help or satisfy a few people would hurt your "cause", then you are a bit more paranoid than I first thought. Feel free to keep posting your opinions as I will continue to post my hopefully helpful opinions so that maybe a few people might be able to play the game they want to.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5052.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5052.page GMT Sigh, no Hide I'm not missing the point. I totally understand the point. But until EA either decides to end their silence by saying one way or the other, coming up with different approaches to the problem [u]may[/u] help a few people. What is the harm in that?[/quote]

The "harm" in coming up with workarounds that don't fix the central problem is twofold: 1) EA will view these workarounds as solutions to the problem and will continue to repeat them as the "solution" to cover their asses, and 2) players may take these workaround as solutions that keep them from being fired up about how badly EA has screwed up and it will hurt our cause in getting this fixed.[/quote]

Dang Hide, do you always go around disparaging everything and everyone? If you really think that such a small workaround that may only help or satisfy a few people would hurt your "cause", then you are a bit more paranoid than I first thought. Feel free to keep posting your opinions as I will continue to post my hopefully helpful opinions so that maybe a few people might be able to play the game they want to.[/quote]

Once again this is not a workaround. People have no choice but to share an account, or buy another copy of the game and install it on another computer. I feel the people churning in their concerns on this matter know what their options are, they don't need to be repeatedly told that, yes they can share an account, they already know this fact.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5069.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5069.page GMT And no offense but everyone got what they paid for with Spore... they have been fighting it every step of the way the moment they knew what was in motion. Didn't do any good what so ever I'd say to everyone if the options provided here aren't enough... take it up with EA's support. If needbe demand a refund. They're the only ones you can get a refund from at this point.[/quote]

I agree - I just think EA has done a great disservice to the industry. Every time I go to buy a game I'm going to think about this experience. No multi-profiles, really strict DRM... and the game pirates got the game 2 days before paying customers could - which tells me that EA didn't want to raise the price of the game, but instead wanted to force people to buy more licenses.

EA is doing new things, it's just too bad they are the wrong things.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5070.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5070.page GMT
While I agree with the basics of what you are saying, there still should be no reaon to get worked up about it. I believe that a lot of people are terrified (at least I am) that EA will never do anything about this and we will have to live with the fact that the game we had looked forward to above almost all other games is broken.

However, look at the views this thread has had. Nearly an order of magnitude greater than any other thread!! There are always going to be people demanding that this problem be fixed, like you and myself. I don't think any body should get upset with people that are trying to be helpful. Just say thanks but no thanks.

As long as this thread still exists, there is hope the someone will do something somewhere. Keep reading and posting on this thread!


]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5085.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5085.page GMT
I think you both are fighting the same nobel cause but in different ways.

What I see is cy just trying to offer a little relief to those affected by this bad EA decision. And then I see heints, like the rest of us on the front lines trying to fight the good fight.

Let's beat up on EA and support eachother.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5090.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5090.page GMT
I think you both are fighting the same nobel cause but in different ways.

What I see is cy just trying to offer a little relief to those affected by this bad EA decision. And then I see heints, like the rest of us on the front lines trying to fight the good fight.

Let's beat up on EA and support eachother. [/quote]

Exactly. We have a common cause! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5105.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5105.page GMT Dang Hide, do you always go around disparaging everything and everyone? If you really think that such a small workaround that may only help or satisfy a few people would hurt your "cause", then you are a bit more paranoid than I first thought. Feel free to keep posting your opinions as I will continue to post my hopefully helpful opinions so that maybe a few people might be able to play the game they want to.[/quote]

1) I'm not disparaging everything and everyone.

2) I'm not paranoid, I'm cynical that EA will ever address this and I think it takes as many voices as we can muster.

3) As someone else said, we KNOW that we can play with a single account, but the game should functionally be able to do so, Creature Creator allowed us to do so, and the manual SAID that we could do so. We want something that it makes sense for us to be able to do. What we don't want are half-solutions or CYA solutions (the "misprint" line from EA) that don't fix the core problem.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5114.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5114.page GMT

I see the whole Spore thing from both sides from the gamer perspective and from EA's sadly EA's justification for the crap they've pulled is practically non-existant. "The advantages are you can play without the CD" Uhm as far as I know I haven't had to load a CD in about 5 years because any game I legitimately own I rip a copy of the CD in the format of a mini-image and away I go.

I had an interesting discussion with someone last week just after I got the game though. He explained to me and had very valid points that EA isn't trying to stop piracy with their DRM and tactics. They're trying to stop resale and reselling of their "goods". Second hand games are surprisingly a large portion of the market and EA being one of if not the largest multi-franchise publisher in the video game market has decided and taken it upon themselves to put forth means and methods to prevent redistribution of their software in any form or fashion. Essentially they want you to buy the game... and not be able to loan it or resell it or let your mate install it on his computer. This thread is showing that they're even going as far as making sure that a spouse or child cannot install the game without buying their own separate copies. I feel that this is the more realistic reason they put these measures in place which technically in any other medium to do this is illegal by US law because most goods are transferrable by US law. Sure laws have gotten tighter with regards to media but a customer that purchases media is still entitled by law AFAIK to transfer that media to another person provided they destroy any copy they themselves have and transfer all associated materials with it. Guess what EA doesn't want us doing? They use piracy as an excuse which is a pretty weak excuse considering like all games Spore was cracked and up for download before the game even made its international release.


[quote=jjwalters3]heints and cy

I think you both are fighting the same nobel cause but in different ways.

What I see is cy just trying to offer a little relief to those affected by this bad EA decision. And then I see heints, like the rest of us on the front lines trying to fight the good fight.

Let's beat up on EA and support eachother.[/quote]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5137.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5137.page GMT
I accidentally discovered that you CAN have multiple universes on one computer,
just make a username for each player in windows,

the sporepedia aspect is the only thing restricted to a single account, which sounds reasonable to me as it's not relating to the person, but to the specific disc that you bought,

i really don't understand why anyone but pirates would gte worked up over not being able to have 10 sporepedia accounts for their one game, and how would you expect them to reasonably avoid piracy while allowing that?

also, as someone else has said, the sporepedia isn't exactly a major aspect of gameplay, just a way to get more content, it actually makes it easier for me to get new stuff because the things my other family members make are available to me without having to deal with loading and searching for things on the online sporepedia itself]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5141.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5141.page GMT

No more. I made an exception for Spore and clearly that was a mistake, since I did want to play it.

The incredible creative talent of Will Wright and his people are being stifled by EA and their approaches. Profit? I work for a large, large company, which sells product and has offices all over the world. I understand profit, and the motive to make it.

You do not make profit by alienating the consumer.

Gaming companies are part of service industry. They like to think of themselves as production, like people who make toothbrushes or steel I-beams or power tools, but they are not - they've in fact, chosen this route for themselves when they stopped letting us control the software that we buy, only handing out licenses.

The gaming companies are selling entertainment, an experience. The ability to experience the game is tantamount to the product that they sell. Most gaming companies, especially small start ups, understand this concept. EA Games has lost sight of their purpose, believing that there is some magical way they can do precisely and only what they want to do and leech even more money from the pockets of their customers. They cannot, and customer service fiascoes like this only prove it. EA games does not lose as much money from Pirates as it does from legitimate normal people, like you or me, that take a look at their extreme practices, put our foot down and say "Enough is Enough" and it's become time for that now.

EA Games honestly thinks that their products are so indispensable to the gaming customer that they can bandy around whatever they want in order to sell more copies and make more money. This is not the case, especially with the recent drop in quality. EA needs to realize that they are not just competing with other big name companies, but with every small gaming company who is attentive to their customers wants and needs (Shout out to Brad and Stardock here!) and they COMPETE with the pirates themselves. They have to show that their product, their service is greater than the one that the pirates provide, which is practically none. The fact that they are fundamentally unable to show this is their single greatest problem, and the most threatening thing to their bottom line. I bought Spore to support Will Wright, and I do not regret that decision. However, I can now see that the "service" of online play that Spore brings to me is more of a problem than a bonus. I will be playing my Spore in offline mode from now on, because I do not want my computer to so much as contact the servers that these people put out.

It is effectively more reasonable from a customer standpoint to pirate Spore and play it offline, without DRM, with multiple installs, with more control over the creatures you create and add to the game, than it is to play it legitimately, and that is why Pirates are a problem for EA Games - because the stripped-down, DRM free version of Spore is in effect a BETTER PRODUCT. It does not take a brain surgeon to realize that a Customer does not want to pay fifty dollars for an inferior product. A product that you can play unrestricted, without a worry of "who's checking up on me every 10 days" or "I can only have one account and my wife and I will have to share."

EA Games clearly does not listen to its customer base. I think that in all honesty it notices the pinch to its wallets and the suits they have in charge, who have clearly never been in any form of retail customer service in their lives but only crunch numbers, blame this disappearance on the Pirates who are "Stealing" legitimate customers of their software.

No.

The only thing that is killing sales for EA Games is EA Games. Oppressive policies which make the customer prove he or she is not a criminal instead of assuming that the game was purchased legitimately are killing the sales. DRM which annoys the consumer or causes their system to do funky things are killing the sales. Ridiculous policies like "Three installs, one account, one registration" are killing sales, not increasing them. Trashy, unfinished games are killing sales, not increasing profits by speeding up the release process. A patch should improve content, not add what should have been completed in the first place - by the time the patch is out, most people have made a decision whether to Buy, Pirate, or Forget.

It's time for EA Games to grow up as a company. They need to realize that the heart of any company is its customers, and the core job of every company is customer service, not what they create but keeping the customer happy. And until they realize this, I'll just take my business elsewhere. Add me to the list of people who will NOT buy another EA Game until this is changed. I took a chance with Spore to support Will Wright, and while he did not disappoint, EA did - unsurprising, but highly disappointing.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5153.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5153.page GMT
I see what you're saying, but it's silly. Yes, the re-sale market in CONSOLES is huge, but honestly, for the PC, I don't think I've EVER bought a used game. Sounds like EA is applying console-related market issues to the PC market.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5166.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5166.page GMT
I accidentally discovered that you CAN have multiple universes on one computer,
just make a username for each player in windows,

the sporepedia aspect is the only thing restricted to a single account, which sounds reasonable to me as it's not relating to the person, but to the specific disc that you bought,

i really don't understand why anyone but pirates would gte worked up over not being able to have 10 sporepedia accounts for their one game, and how would you expect them to reasonably avoid piracy while allowing that?

also, as someone else has said, the sporepedia isn't exactly a major aspect of gameplay, just a way to get more content, it actually makes it easier for me to get new stuff because the things my other family members make are available to me without having to deal with loading and searching for things on the online sporepedia itself[/quote]

This is the one saving grace I found in all of this. Thankfully, I was able to do my game separate from my wife's. She has said that, having gotten to space, she was done with the game for a while and probably wouldn't pick it back up for a long time. However, her creations and her achievements showed up on my account and this can't be undone. This is what we're taking issue with. The game itself plays fine, and there are workarounds that make this issue almost a non-issue, but it's the principle of the thing.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5172.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5172.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5177.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5177.page GMT
I think you both are fighting the same nobel cause but in different ways.

What I see is cy just trying to offer a little relief to those affected by this bad EA decision. And then I see heints, like the rest of us on the front lines trying to fight the good fight.

Let's beat up on EA and support eachother.[/quote]

Which I agree to and have said time and time again I fully support everyone in complaining about the problem. But just because hide can't accept other people's suggestions as valid does not made them anything less. He just refuses to budge on anything and to me that just makes the situation even more untenable.

I will just agree to disagree with how hide approaches the whole situation.

Good luck everyone.

<bows graciously out of the thread>

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5191.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5191.page GMT This is the one saving grace I found in all of this. Thankfully, I was able to do my game separate from my wife's. She has said that, having gotten to space, she was done with the game for a while and probably wouldn't pick it back up for a long time. However, her creations and her achievements showed up on my account and this can't be undone. This is what we're taking issue with. The game itself plays fine, and there are workarounds that make this issue almost a non-issue, but it's the principle of the thing.[/quote]

So really if they just released a patch that saved achievements into your separate username folders....that would fix the issue, because the creature part...if you didn't have the creatures made by someone else on your computer, the game would download them anyway, so regardless of who made what, you're gonna see things that you didn't make anyway

it just seems like everyone is being so dramatic about this]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5203.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5203.page GMT [/quote]

(guy).. and yes I could use that beer!

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5214.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5214.page GMT It's an issue of your family member's content being attributed all under the same account.

Many of us bought the Creature Creator and made our own accounts with our own creatures.
Now, some of us cannot use our own creatures in the game with online intact because someone else already registered the serial code under a different Spore.com account name.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5221.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5221.page GMT
The text in the manual clearly read you may HAVE more than one account for each installation. Not you may REGISTER more than one account for each serial key. and page 3 clearly states "To access online features you must register online with the provided serial code, [b][i]ONLY ONE REGISTRATION PER GAME[/i][/b]." Its also printed very clearly on the back of the box as im looking at it right now.

It seems in clear language to me that they mean, anyone can log into their accounts on any installation not that you can register multiple accounts to a single cd key. This is no different than any other game i have ever played. 1 CD Key 1 Game. It seems like people are getting upset because they have to share if they only have 1 copy. How is that different from any game out there? Any xbox or console game is linked to its disk, 1 Disk 1 Game.

If your allowed to link multiple accounts to 1 cd key whats to stop you from both playing at the same time which would be the equivalent of owning 2 copies of any game?

The game allows for multiple planets to be created and playable, i dont see how they could have been more multiple person friendle in a single player game.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5247.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5247.page GMT At least they're letting us voice our outrage on their forums.

Whether or not they care or will do anything about this, only time will tell...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5253.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5253.page GMT
The text in the manual clearly read you may HAVE more than one account for each installation. Not you may REGISTER more than one account for each serial key. and page 3 clearly states "To access online features you must register online with the provided serial code, [b][i]ONLY ONE REGISTRATION PER GAME[/i][/b]." Its also printed very clearly on the back of the box as im looking at it right now.

It seems in clear language to me that they mean, anyone can log into their accounts on any installation not that you can register multiple accounts to a single cd key. This is no different than any other game i have ever played. 1 CD Key 1 Game. It seems like people are getting upset because they have to share if they only have 1 copy. How is that different from any game out there? Any xbox or console game is linked to its disk, 1 Disk 1 Game.

If your allowed to link multiple accounts to 1 cd key whats to stop you from both playing at the same time which would be the equivalent of owning 2 copies of any game?

The game allows for multiple planets to be created and playable, i dont see how they could have been more multiple person friendle in a single player game.[/quote]

uh oh....you better duck.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5255.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5255.page GMT
uh oh....you better duck.[/quote]

*trys to find fire retardant clothing]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5264.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5264.page GMT
I accidentally discovered that you CAN have multiple universes on one computer,
just make a username for each player in windows,

the sporepedia aspect is the only thing restricted to a single account, which sounds reasonable to me as it's not relating to the person, but to the specific disc that you bought.[/quote]

Thanks flop, someone else mentioned this well. I think this is the best approach for people that want to play while waiting for some kind of response. For some of us though, part of the excitement and challenge is being able to unlock achievements on our own.

For example - it's just not going to be any fun for my wife if I unlock all of the achievements, or if my man-eating carnivores show up on the same profile as her sun bathing vegitarian butterflies...

Once I explained that, she didn't want to play because there is no sense of self-achievement.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5265.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5265.page GMT The biggest issue(aside from the "misprint" in the manual and the fact that the [url=http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c225/berteh/sporescreen.jpg]game itself implies you can logout and switch to a different account[/url]) is that the Creature Creator had no such restrictions, so many many people created CC accounts for themselves and family members also created accounts via the CC.
Now, these separate accounts cannot be played at the same time without shelling out $50 for [i]EACH ACCOUNT[/i]!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5268.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5268.page GMT
The text in the manual clearly read you may HAVE more than one account for each installation. Not you may REGISTER more than one account for each serial key. and page 3 clearly states "To access online features you must register online with the provided serial code, [b][i]ONLY ONE REGISTRATION PER GAME[/i][/b]." Its also printed very clearly on the back of the box as im looking at it right now.

It seems in clear language to me that they mean, anyone can log into their accounts on any installation not that you can register multiple accounts to a single cd key. This is no different than any other game i have ever played. 1 CD Key 1 Game. It seems like people are getting upset because they have to share if they only have 1 copy. How is that different from any game out there? Any xbox or console game is linked to its disk, 1 Disk 1 Game.

If your allowed to link multiple accounts to 1 cd key whats to stop you from both playing at the same time which would be the equivalent of owning 2 copies of any game?

The game allows for multiple planets to be created and playable, i dont see how they could have been more multiple person friendle in a single player game.[/quote]

Your second paragraph contradicts your first paragraph. Anyone CAN'T log into their accounts on any installation - the only account that can be logged into is the one that was linked with that particular CD-key. Basically, only one user can use a single installation of Spore. If two people in one household want to play using separate EA/Spore accounts, they have to at the very least spend another $50 for another CD-key that can be linked to the second account, even though all you're paying for is that CD-key.

While this may be similar to MMOs like WoW that require a CD-key for each account, $50 does not justify the online capabilities having a linked account provides. The reasoning given by a (supposed) Maxis employee is that server load would be greater if multiple accounts were linked to a CD-key - this is just stupid, because whether 5 people use a single account, or 5 accounts use a single creation, 5 players worth of creations will have to be stored on the server.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5276.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5276.page GMT The biggest issue(aside from the "misprint" in the manual and the fact that the [url=http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c225/berteh/sporescreen.jpg]game itself implies you can logout and switch to a different account[/url]) is that the Creature Creator had no such restrictions, so many many people created CC accounts for themselves and family members also created accounts via the CC.
Now, these separate accounts cannot be played at the same time without shelling out $50 for [i]EACH ACCOUNT[/i]![/quote]

Not to mention buying multiple computers. EA just used us to create all their creature content... then even took the fun of the CC out by making us uninstall it.

I'm amazed so many people don't get what many are upset about.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5278.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5278.page GMT
Really, really wanted to play this... And really wanted to get my wife in on it, as there are so few games that she will play. But I will not accept this game as is. I'll move on. And my wife will be happy with the next version of PuzzleQuest coming out soon.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5292.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5292.page GMT
Right, you're not getting it. You said yourself, multiple accounts per game. Well, that's exactly the problem.

Not only is it one registration per CD, which is fine really, it just means that game can only be played once at a time. The issue is that it's also ONE ACCOUNT PER REGISTRATION PER CD. So, if you want to accounts, to keep the game data segregated between you and one other household member, you need to buy two copies of the game. Now that is the crux.

Saeverette,

I agree with you regarding EA and Maxis. I will scrutinize them CLOSELY forever in the future. And I spent a LOT of money on games, buying at least 2 to 4 games a month.

Compare this behavior with a company such as Stardock, which has mine and should have everyone's full support. They are anti-DRM and patch and update frequently and remain in close contact with their customer base.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5293.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5293.page GMT The biggest issue(aside from the "misprint" in the manual and the fact that the [url=http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c225/berteh/sporescreen.jpg]game itself implies you can logout and switch to a different account[/url]) is that the Creature Creator had no such restrictions, so many many people created CC accounts for themselves and family members also created accounts via the CC.
Now, these separate accounts cannot be played at the same time without shelling out $50 for [i]EACH ACCOUNT[/i]![/quote]

You shouldnt be able to play any game at the time withoutout everyone having a copy, unless its multiplayer and designed for multiple players of course.

But i get your meaning, cant you just import your creatures to 1 shared account though?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5297.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5297.page GMT
The text in the manual clearly read you may HAVE more than one account for each installation. Not you may REGISTER more than one account for each serial key. and page 3 clearly states "To access online features you must register online with the provided serial code, [b][i]ONLY ONE REGISTRATION PER GAME[/i][/b]." Its also printed very clearly on the back of the box as im looking at it right now.[/quote]

Let me jump in if you really want to understand the issue, look for my posts. I think I've done a pretty good job of capturing the essense of the problems.

But to add to the knowledge. Registeration is not the same as profile, and it certainly doesn't make it clear that multiple users of the same computer can't have their own game profile.

I think people are mad, because if this was made clear to us (before buying the game) we simply would have excercised our right to not buy the game.

But EA really and truly is walking new ground here. They are licensing the software to the individual person, and not the machine. That's like saying that everyone in your house needs their own computer and copy of Mac/XP/Vista.

Additionally, because the Creature Creator did support multiple profiles, and because the manual did say multiple "spore profiles"... people feel very cheated!

I don't expect you to understand everything, but obviously people with one computer and two people feel very upset... and this is because EA made some bad decisions.

Best,




]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5304.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5304.page GMT EA just used us to create all their creature content... then even took the fun of the CC out by making us uninstall it.

[/quote]

i didnt even think about that...good point. thats such a great way of making the customers work for you..."here is a "game" where you can create these cool creatures (which will make us do much less work)"]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5309.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5309.page GMT
If your allowed to link multiple accounts to 1 cd key whats to stop you from both playing at the same time which would be the equivalent of owning 2 copies of any game?[/quote]

I do have to disagree with you there, I've owned many games that let multiple users log in, post high-scores, etc., all from one disk. Battle.net never gave me this kind of grief. My Xbox 360 allows each profile to play a game, download content, get achievements, have separate saved games and online play, all with just one single disk.

If you register each login to a specific CD Key, and allow for multiple logins to be linked to a single CD key, it's just a server check once you try to login to only allow one prior CD Key linked profile on at a time. There, you've solved multiple people loging in at the same time. If you link each CD Install to a specific machine, then if someone tries to login via a 2nd PC, then you just burned an install. Problem solved there, too.

In my opinion.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5313.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5313.page GMT AFAIK, the only way to even do it would be to use the Creature Creator to open their creatures and change one part in some way, then re-save them as your own creatures.

A lot of work that shouldn't be necessary.

I think a lot of use would be happy if there was at least an option to pay maybe $5 to get a second serial code/activation for another account.
We shouldn't have to shell out $50 a pop for each member of our household just because EA decided they wanted to change this functionality(see that screenshot I linked to in my previous post if you haven't seen it already).]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5325.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5325.page GMT
Right, you're not getting it. You said yourself, multiple accounts per game. Well, that's exactly the problem.

Not only is it one registration per CD, which is fine really, it just means that game can only be played once at a time. The issue is that it's also ONE ACCOUNT PER REGISTRATION PER CD. So, if you want to accounts, to keep the game data segregated between you and one other household member, you need to buy two copies of the game. Now that is the crux.[/quote]

Well that was my point, why would u expect 2 people to have their own accounts, essentially allowing both to played at the same time with only 1 cd key? On the box it does explain you need to register with your cd key, and obviously you only get 1 per purchase.



]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5334.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5334.page GMT EA just used us to create all their creature content... then even took the fun of the CC out by making us uninstall it.


i didnt even think about that...good point. thats such a great way of making the customers work for you..."here is a "game" where you can create these cool creatures (which will make us do much less work)"[/quote]
Actually, what they did was hook multiple family members with the CC, then expect [b][u]everyone[/u][/b] who wants to play to shell out $50 for the "right" to do so.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5338.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5338.page GMT
Right, you're not getting it. You said yourself, multiple accounts per game. Well, that's exactly the problem.

Not only is it one registration per CD, which is fine really, it just means that game can only be played once at a time. The issue is that it's also ONE ACCOUNT PER REGISTRATION PER CD. So, if you want to accounts, to keep the game data segregated between you and one other household member, you need to buy two copies of the game. Now that is the crux.[/quote]

Well that was my point, why would u expect 2 people to have their own accounts, essentially allowing both to played at the same time with only 1 cd key? On the box it does explain you need to register with your cd key, and obviously you only get 1 per purchase.
[/quote]
We expected it because that's how the Creature Creator worked.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5340.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5340.page GMT
Well that was my point, why would u expect 2 people to have their own accounts, essentially allowing both to played at the same time with only 1 cd key? On the box it does explain you need to register with your cd key, and obviously you only get 1 per purchase. [/quote]

Perfect - You see the thing is.. We don't expect to play at the same time. We only have one computer.

We're not really talking about "accounts"... just because EA calls it and account, it's really just a profile. Imagine if you had to buy a new copy of Vista/Mac for each family member? !

Cheers,]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5351.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5351.page GMT AFAIK, the only way to even do it would be to use the Creature Creator to open their creatures and change one part in some way, then re-save them as your own creatures.

A lot of work that shouldn't be necessary.

I think a lot of use would be happy if there was at least an option to pay maybe $5 to get a second serial code/activation for another account.
We shouldn't have to shell out $50 a pop for each member of our household just because EA decided they wanted to change this functionality(see that screenshot I linked to in my previous post if you haven't seen it already).[/quote]

Im guessing they will move to sub accounts or something similar, Im sure it will work out in the end. It just seems like lots of people are taking it to the extreme here. I dont necessarily trust companies, but i dont think they are out to screw people out of anything other than money. So I dont think they would do these things intentionally its just this is the new trend in gaming, its moving toward digital distribution and having cd keys linked to your account rather than to a particular install. I mean look at steam and impulse. They are just trying to protect their work.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5358.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5358.page GMT
Well that was my point, why would u expect 2 people to have their own accounts, essentially allowing both to played at the same time with only 1 cd key? On the box it does explain you need to register with your cd key, and obviously you only get 1 per purchase. [/quote]

Perfect - You see the thing is.. We don't expect to play at the same time. We only have one computer.

We're not really talking about "accounts"... just because EA calls it and account, it's really just a profile. Imagine if you had to buy a new copy of Vista/Mac for each family member? !

Cheers,[/quote]

You have to for each computer, and its expensive. But the problem is the people could easily use it to play accross multiple computers. And when sharing a windows install or whatever you have to share space and make adjustments, i dont see how this is much different.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5364.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5364.page GMT
Just wish someone from EA would acknowledge that they'll do [i]SOMETHING[/i].]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5370.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5370.page GMT

Allow multiple accounts for the same game. Enable a multiplayer or co-op function. Stop making excuses for a game that was delayed tremendously already. The only way to continue increasing sales growth for this game is to fix it fast and make it public. To announce that it was never intended for multiple accounts was by far one of the dumbest PR video game mistakes this year.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5410.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5410.page GMT Well that was my point, why would u expect 2 people to have their own accounts, essentially allowing both to played at the same time with only 1 cd key? On the box it does explain you need to register with your cd key, and obviously you only get 1 per purchase.
[/quote]

What we are asking for isn't all that much, it's hardly a huge expectation that we would be able to keep our creations seperate but as it stands everything that I create, everything my wife creates, everything my kids create, those are all going to be under the name of whoever happened to play the game first.

Why would we expect 2 people to be able to have two different accounts?

Because it flippin says on page 52 that we can!!!! Imagine the nerve of us thinking we would be able to, right? Why the heck would we expect EA to keep their word. You're right. WE SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW.

Why would we expect 2 people to be able to have two different accounts?

Because it's very obvious that the menu system when you log in to was set up to be able to handle more than one account.

Why would we expect 2 people to be able to have two different accounts?

Because the Creature Creator allowed it, you know that program we shelled 10 bucks out for that essentially turned us in to the machine that created the content for this game? I mean really, the nerve of them. Most companies hire people to create the content for their game. They actually made *us* pay for that service, and then when we buy the full game we can't even enjoy our content in a way that we expected to.

We aren't expecting to be able to play on two different computers at the same time, we aren't asking for that. We just want to be able to keep track of whats ours like we could in Creature Creator.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5411.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5411.page GMT
The EA servers know when one instance of Spore is running. Therefor they would simply prevent the same registration running on separate computers, if you are logged into the online capabilities.

As I mentioned before, when I used to play Battlefield 2 I could have several accounts on multiple computers. BUT only one registered version could play online at any given time.

This is common practice for PC games that connect to online services.

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5437.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5437.page GMT You have to for each computer, and its expensive. But the problem is the people could easily use it to play accross multiple computers. And when sharing a windows install or whatever you have to share space and make adjustments, i dont see how this is much different.[/quote]

I don't know that I can explain it any better, perhaps if I used the word sub-accounts. But the bottom line is, software is usually licensed to be installed on just one machine. As such, any user of that machine should be able to use the software to it's full enjoyment.

I think what we see here, is that EA wants each member of the house, even if they play on just one computer to buy separate licenses. This is not the standard, and they didn't tell us this up front. Clearly you have to agree that if people knew about this - they probably wouldn't be complaining. We would have just excercised our right to not buy the game in the first place.

Add to this, the fact that Creature Creator supported sub accounts, and the book said it would - people feel cheated.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5442.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5442.page GMT
Exactly. It should not be hard to make spore such that there is one sub-account per Windows screen name, and the master account being associated with the computer.

To say it again so it's better understood:
- We do NOT want to play Spore at the same time on different computers.
- We DO want to have seperate accounts for our family members, on the same computer.

And now I'll say it to: I will not buy any more EA products until this is resolved.
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To say it again so it's better understood:
- We do NOT want to play Spore at the same time on different computers.
- We DO want to have seperate accounts for our family members, on the same computer.

And now I'll say it to: I will not buy any more EA products until this is resolved.
[/quote]

I wish I could lock the thread right here so that our message is clear to everyone. I know it's a hard concept to explain to everyone but trust me when I say that it is in everyone's best interest to support this. Otherwise you'll end up buying multiple copies of everything including add-ons.
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The text in the manual clearly read you may HAVE more than one account for each installation. Not you may REGISTER more than one account for each serial key. and page 3 clearly states "To access online features you must register online with the provided serial code, [b][i]ONLY ONE REGISTRATION PER GAME[/i][/b]." Its also printed very clearly on the back of the box as im looking at it right now.
...
[/quote]

This text is NOT! on the german box. But the sentence with multiple accounts is in the german manual. On the german box there is only: internet connection required to active the product]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5652.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5652.page GMT
Exactly. It should not be hard to make spore such that there is one sub-account per Windows screen name, and the master account being associated with the computer.

To say it again so it's better understood:
- We do NOT want to play Spore at the same time on different computers.
- We DO want to have seperate accounts for our family members, on the same computer.

And now I'll say it to: I will not buy any more EA products until this is resolved.
[/quote]

Agreed]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5664.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5664.page GMT
Even so, in English. Registration doesn't mean profile or limited to a one person experience. Registration means just that... registering your product. It in no way means "you are screwed if you have one computer and you expect that we will follow industry standard and allow users of that computer to enjoy the game".

Na-ja... wie gehts dir?
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keep in mind I am the one with the skunked end of the deal (my husband installed first) I am rather ticked off over this but I have also played Sims 2 for the last 2 or so years and know that it takes a while for them to make things like this happen.

TO EA/Maxis/forum writer: If you limit the number of shared Creations each account can have (this includes STOPPING the auto share feature for the game) And have the ability to delete old creations to put new ones in then that would save the server enabiling more people to play on one install and not jamming the server.

Sorry for my spelling! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5717.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5717.page GMT
And, in fact, each and every box (both of the Core Game and the Galactic Edition) states "Only one registration available per game" on the back.

There were many reason why we chose to have one account per copy of the game - some had to do with how saved games work and some had to do with limiting the online feature only to the one person who bought the game. We aren't charging a subscription fee for the online features and given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game. 2x to 1000x the number of people with accounts per game equals 2x to 1000x the number of creations on the server.

Please don't take it out on the mods. They are just trying to keep things civil.

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

If it's multiple users on one machine, then whether the creations they create are tied to one or multiple accounts has no effect on the number of creations uploaded to the server.

-- Edit
Sorry, I just noticed this thread is 22 pages long now.. and it's already been pointed out that you're not likely an EA rep of any kind. Still, your explanation makes no sense.

As others have mentioned, the game interface & documentation makes it clearly evident that the intent was to allow multiple USERS on a single INSTALL.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5769.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5769.page GMT
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/921.page

-MaxisLucky (most definitely a Maxis employee. )]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5824.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5824.page GMT are we never gonna get a response from EA/Maxis?
seriously. this isnt gonna go away. if it does, it means people are gonna stop playing spore. which means EA's sales are gonna drop.
I'll never forget what EA has done to this game. i have been waiting for this game for so long... i bet Will is PISSED at EA for this.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5825.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5825.page GMT
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/921.page

-MaxisLucky (most definitely a Maxis employee. ) [/quote]

Ok, were not confused as to how many accounts can be associted to one copy of Spore. You have officially said that in order for more than one person to play their own game on one computer, you have to buy more than one copy of spore.

No. This thread is about CHANGING this. My family would like to play THEIR accounts on ONE copy of Spore. Please tell us if this is changable! It's a rip-off if I have to spend $150 dollars just so my family can have their own accounts. I'm really getting desperate here.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5862.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/5862.page GMT
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The game already has different galaxies under different screen names. Just allow more than one account per game. As long as those accounts are associated with one computer, there should be no problem with pirating. It seems so simple!

If anyone can give me a good reason why this wouldn't work, I would be grateful, as this might take some frustration off my shoulders. I don't even know if could buy a Spore expansion now.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6197.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6197.page GMT
The game already has different galaxies under different screen names. Just allow more than one account per game. As long as those accounts are associated with one computer, there should be no problem with pirating. It seems so simple!

If anyone can give me a good reason why this wouldn't work, I would be grateful, as this might take some frustration off my shoulders. I don't even know if could buy a Spore expansion now.[/quote]

It would work so simply. Even if you were to have Spore installed on multiple PC's, only ONE - SERIAL NUMBER- REGISTERED piece of software, could run at any given instance. It's cake.

I can only think they really want to rip us off. SPORE I hate that.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6227.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6227.page GMT
The game already has different galaxies under different screen names. Just allow more than one account per game. As long as those accounts are associated with one computer, there should be no problem with pirating. It seems so simple!

If anyone can give me a good reason why this wouldn't work, I would be grateful, as this might take some frustration off my shoulders. I don't even know if could buy a Spore expansion now.[/quote]

It would work so simply. Even if you were to have Spore installed on multiple PC's, only ONE - SERIAL NUMBER- REGISTERED piece of software, could run at any given instance. It's cake.

I can only think they really want to rip us off. SPORE I hate that.[/quote]

EA has been doing this for other PC games since Battlefield 2142:

Quote from another post of mine
[QUOTE]Something like this would solve this problem. EA has been doing this "lock your key to an account" starting when Battlefield 2142 was released. Other games that have this similiar set up are: Medal of Honor Airborne, Command and Conquer 3, Command and Conquer 3 Kanes' Wrath, and Crysis. There may be more....but these are the ones that came to mind[/QUOTE]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6248.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6248.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6282.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6282.page GMT
But don't these games allow more than one person to have there own "account"? I don't know about them, but I'm fairly certain they're not as limiting as Spore is.
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All I did was ask people to stop bashing those who are quite rightly upset and just move on from the thread. Why would that be removed?

Sheesh.
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My wife wants to play and i would rather have our creations separate. This seems like a big mistake on EA's part how important something like this would be to consumers.

That comment about not punishing the actual people who bought the game is ridiculous. How are we rewarded for buying the game, when something as simple as this can easily outrage people, and you over look it.

I'm very happy with the game, but i have to say, this is the one and only major disappointment... i really hope you guys gets your act together and not leave us in the dust like with Orange Box.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6575.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6575.page GMT [/quote]

We are right there with you. /Bump]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6595.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6595.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6641.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6641.page GMT
Well, it IS the end of the week. I doubt we'll hear anything new until Monday... (if at all)]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6665.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6665.page GMT
I choose Monday over never. I really would like this fixed before the next expansion thought. Better yet, before I have to go to college at the end of the month!

Here's hoping.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6699.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6699.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6801.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6801.page GMT
[i]FROM [url]http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/921.page[/url][/i]:

All this 'Freyar' silliness aside for a moment...

Lucy, your points do little to explain the development decision to not include (or perhaps, remove) the functionality we're talking about. In fact, your final point seems to only back our frustrations:

[quote]Once you have a Spore account, you can log in with that account on any computer that has an install of any legitimate copy of Spore. On a single install it is possible for multiple users to switch back and forth between unique online Spore accounts. For this reason we have included a Log Out button in the Online Settings options labeled, Disconnect from Spore or change users. The different accounts will be playing in the same Galaxy, and will, therefore, share the same data folders. [/quote]

What this says, in non-PR speak is that once you've purchased and bound a spore.com login to your installed game, you can switch to a laptop installation, walk to a friends house with another installation or fly halfway across the country to a distant relative who also has installed the game and play on any of those machines with your login.

Fair enough, so far you've established that, similarly to Xbox Live, I can take a memory card with my login on it and play any game on anyone else's machine. I can earn achievements, play against other people, chat or what have you. Where it differs... [b]I DON'T HAVE TO HAVE PREVIOUSLY PURCHASED ANY GIVEN GAME IN ORDER TO PLAY IT ON SOMEONE ELSE'S MACHINE[/b]. GameFly would be completely out of business if that were the case.

What you are instead suggesting is that despite having created profiles and creatures associated with those profiles in the Creature Creator, I would be [b]FORCED [/b]to purchase [b]AND [/b]install 2 additional copies of the title on 2 completely separate PCs.

Logic and Convenience, we hardly knew ye.

You are a developer, whether it be in scripting, story, characters or solid code writing I can't say. However, you should know, better than anyone here, that the feature/change we're asking for has little effect on the DRM policies everyone else is already up in arms about. Nor will it support existing or encourage new instances of piracy. In fact, I would argue that it does just the opposite.

When I play Battlefield 2, which I have done for [b]MANY[/b] years, I was not required to purchase an additional copy of the game in order for my wife to create a soldier and play online, earning her own achievements and progressing through her own character's rankings. Are we talking about different storage requirements.. sure, but the principle is identical.

So why is it now that if my wife wants to create her race of peace nick herbivores, my son wants his warmongering robot-things and I want my omnivore traders to be credited and traded with the original author's name and online friends, I need to shell out a [b]MINIMUM [/b]of $150 for 3 discs, not to mention somehow scrounge up 3 separate PCs and get them all online?

I'm certain your package's printing refers to registration as ownership relating to limited warranties and customer service, just as every other piece of software on the market does. However, assuming for just a moment these decisions were set in stone from the beginning, I have two final questions:

1. How does a Developer glaringly omit such an obvious feature?
[b]and[/b]
2. How does an International misprint get by proof readers, legal staff and beta testers, particularly on a item that has been pointedly discussed and decided upon to disallow?

Paraphrasing [b]YOUR OWN[/b] response from earlier:
[quote]There were many reason [sic] why we chose to have one account per copy of the game ... given the load to our servers we were very interested in making the experience for paying customers not be slow and laggy because of many multiple accounts per copy of the game.[/quote]

One would think something like that would come up in your weekly scrum meetings. I can't WAIT to see the Game Developer Magazine post-mortem article on this one.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6951.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/6951.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7114.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7114.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7234.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7234.page GMT

so every windows user have different game profile

i'm sorry if this is wrong .]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7452.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7452.page GMT

so every windows user have different game profile

i'm sorry if this is wrong .[/quote]

No, this is good for having separate galaxies and save files and preferences. This is great for offline play. The issue is regarding the individual online accounts, achievement tracking, creature upload and attributing.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7490.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7490.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7494.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7494.page GMT
[quote]Hello Ste,

This is Canon again. I deeply apologise for the continued difficulties with the Spore game. There was a minor issue with the entitlement, which has now been fixed. You may now retry with logging in to your 'xxxx@xxxxx.com' account, you should now have the same privileges with the aforementioned account.

Regarding the screenshot you provided with the "conflicting" statement, this is not a mistaken statement as an account that already has Spore entitled to it should be able to make use of the said option. Since you now have two accounts with Spore entitlements, you may use the Logout feature as needed.

Best Regards,

Canon D.
Electronic Arts™ Customer Support
[/quote]Indeed. I can now log on with two accounts as I needed in the first please.
I guess I should be happy, and I am, but I can't help feeling that if it can be done, why are they holding it back?
So if you do want multiple accounts, pester the **** out of EA and threaten them with Trading Standards etc, worked for me.

EDIT:- The funny thing is, I was getting on to Trading Standards this afternoon too, no reason too now.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7606.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7606.page GMT
[quote]Hello Ste,

... There was a minor issue with the entitlement, which has now been fixed. ... you should now have the same privileges with the aforementioned account.[/quote]
Indeed. I can now log on with two accounts as I needed in the first please.
I guess I should be happy, and I am, but I can't help feeling that if it can be done, why are they holding it back?
So if you do want multiple accounts, pester the **** out of EA and threaten them with Trading Standards etc, worked for me.[/quote]

So..we know it can be done, one of the EA reps is calling it an "issue with entitlement", they let you do it because you threatened action, but in a public post they tell everyone that it's not an error and we all have to live with it? -shakes head-]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7639.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7639.page GMT
[quote]Hello Ste,

... There was a minor issue with the entitlement, which has now been fixed. ... you should now have the same privileges with the aforementioned account.[/quote]
Indeed. I can now log on with two accounts as I needed in the first please.
I guess I should be happy, and I am, but I can't help feeling that if it can be done, why are they holding it back?
So if you do want multiple accounts, pester the **** out of EA and threaten them with Trading Standards etc, worked for me.[/quote]

So..we know it can be done, one of the EA reps is calling it an "issue with entitlement", they let you do it because you threatened action, but in a public post they tell everyone that it's not an error and we all have to live with it? -shakes head-[/quote]

Nah, the issue with entitlement was because they had already tried once to activate a second account on my key, which is what that refers too, although yes, it shows it can be done.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7829.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7829.page GMT
This isn't about piracy... this is about corporate greed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7891.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7891.page GMT
EA please fix your website and stop trying to protect Spore it has already been pirated, just make your paying customers happy.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7929.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/7929.page GMT I guess I should be happy, and I am, but I can't help feeling that if it can be done, why are they holding it back?
So if you do want multiple accounts, pester the **** out of EA and threaten them with Trading Standards etc, worked for me. [/quote]

Oh...wow. So you actually can now log in with two seperate accounts? How many e-mails did this take?

This whole situation has become unfathomable. To not just disallow most of a family to enjoy a game on a single computer, but to allow this to those who yell loud enough (no offense stemot)?

And all I ask is that my family can access their already existing accounts from our present installation of Spore. Is that so hard to give to everyone?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8011.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8011.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8111.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8111.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8233.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8233.page GMT
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If no one wants to keep this going over the weekend, I'll bring this thread back Monday.

Hope remains!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8893.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8893.page GMT if i reinstall it will i then have to battle this multiple account issue, or will it uninstall and install correctly?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8910.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8910.page GMT
Totally Rad Show is a Podcast with a large fanbase of Gamers/Geeks that review games movies TV shows, Comics, etc. They're reviewing spore soon and I would love any potential buyers to know exactly what they're buying so they don't get sucked into a preemptive buy. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8934.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8934.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8953.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8953.page GMT
I don't mind a company using some sort of protection scheme to slow down the rate at which the game gets pirated. Even though, to date, no technology has been devised to prevent anything from being pirated. I just don't understand why they didn't take into consideration that there are multiple gamers in a single household.

This isn't simply a matter of "just buy another copy of the game." Once it is installed on a PC, you may only use one Spore account for that installation. I believe the developers intended for us to be able to have more than one account per install. But, EA cut that functionality out of the game, leaving families out in the cold.

It is the Online Community of Spore that makes it unique. Without family members having the ability to participate individually in that community kills the experience. As has been said by others: I want my designs and achievements chronicled in the Spore account that I created with the Creature Creator... not jumbled together in a group account.

EA has decided to cater only to the individual gamer and has cut a family experience out of the mix with Spore.

I want my money back for the Creature Creator. As far as I'm concerned right now, EA conned me out of $10 bucks and [i][u]used the Creature Creator to lead me to believe[/u][/i] that the game's user account system would be something decidedly other than what it actually turned out to be. It was my experience with the Creature Creator that led to my final decision to purchase Spore for my family in the first place.

And, to those of you saying "sour grapes", you obviously aren't sharing the game with other members of your family.. Ether that, or you're just a troll. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8956.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/8956.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9362.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9362.page GMT
They have gone over the line. And they are going to pay very very bad. Because spore's gonna get old fast! already has for a lot. And when it does for all. they are gonna want more money. And they are going to drop an X-Pack for more content. And guess what? They wont make a dime. And then the hard fact will set in..

"We made out bed now it's time to lay in it" Because no one not me not anyone will buy it. Sure they will get a few people to buy it. But at this point the way they are handling thing's. Nothing good will come of it.. I can see that and im sure you all can. And EA get pissed at me if you want. Im only calling it the way I see it.

Because none of you have done anything to fix these issues. You only offered stupid answer's to postpone your response you will be forced to make once spore finishing going down the drain...

I really really saw this game as something special. And now I see it was just a last attempt at getting as many dollar's as you could. Go out with a bang I guess EA? Because EA's been going down hill for awhile. And now they prolly made enough money to flip off everybody and said hahahah guess what? Stuck you with a POS. and I got your money. and after your 3 installs no more game for you!!! HAHAAHAH.

So there you go people. Spore in a nut-shell.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9570.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9570.page GMT
Sadly, I think you are probably right.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9719.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9719.page GMT
[quote]Hello Ste,

This is Canon again. I deeply apologise for the continued difficulties with the Spore game. There was a minor issue with the entitlement, which has now been fixed. You may now retry with logging in to your 'xxxx@xxxxx.com' account, you should now have the same privileges with the aforementioned account.

Regarding the screenshot you provided with the "conflicting" statement, this is not a mistaken statement as an account that already has Spore entitled to it should be able to make use of the said option. Since you now have two accounts with Spore entitlements, you may use the Logout feature as needed.

Best Regards,

Canon D.
Electronic Arts™ Customer Support
[/quote]Indeed. I can now log on with two accounts as I needed in the first please.
I guess I should be happy, and I am, but I can't help feeling that if it can be done, why are they holding it back?
So if you do want multiple accounts, pester the **** out of EA and threaten them with Trading Standards etc, worked for me.

EDIT:- The funny thing is, I was getting on to Trading Standards this afternoon too, no reason too now.[/quote]
Wait wait wait...
So you got them to activate a second account on just 1 copy of Spore?
I want to make sure this is correct before citing this as an example for my gf's account.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9733.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9733.page GMT So you got them to activate a second account on just 1 copy of Spore?
I want to make sure this is correct before citing this as an example for my gf's account.[/quote]

It would seem you are reading it correctly. They can do it... I have submitted a request for similar treatment with EA Support. I am awaiting their answer.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9836.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9836.page GMT
I'm glad thousands upon thousands of people installed pirated copies of Spore, before it was even released here in USA. That's what you deserve for trying to nickle and dime, lie, and screw loyal paying customers over.

Today I played Spore on my daughters account (She is already completely bored with this shallow game). I have to say it's a very unique game, and it becomes very boring, very fast. So I'm not going to b!tch like I used to, but I WILL NEVER BUY another EA product. I might take if for free, but no more money from me. I will pay those developers and producers who deserve my cash.

And I'll still not go away from these threads. EA, Maxis, if you want my money in the future, you better apologize and fix this stupid, minuscule error. I have given you hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars. That can stop right now very easily.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9848.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9848.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9893.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/9893.page GMT
Perhaps you're right. But, it proves that the multi-user functionality is built into the game.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10258.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10258.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10416.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10416.page GMT
cause i hate the word bump.

and i have 2 copies, one for my lappy, one for the family desky i dont use, cause family uses it and i has a lappy.
i can log in there, the first family member to get to it can log in... and others get to go to the account creation screen and run to us lucky ones for aid...

edit: now that ive looked around a little... i have some BS to point out. you can not be logged in on your legit account on 3 compys at once. i logged in downstairs while my lappy was running, cause i was trying to help my brother create his account. when i (failed and) came back to the lappy, i had been logged out, cause i was logged in elsewhere. no error message, no notice, just save and go to the main menu and see the "not logged in" tag.

at least pick a lie that is supported by your software.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10556.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10556.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10647.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10647.page GMT
absolutely ridiculous.

why is ea being run like this. its AWFUL. yeah you make a quick buck.. but your naieve if you think you next games will sell. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10765.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/10765.page GMT
Cheers
Draycen]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11002.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11002.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11004.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11004.page GMT
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Not that I have anyone else to share the game with, it would have been a burden if I hadn't moved out.

Because someone in the thread said something about it saying that you can only have one account per game right on the box I will QUOTE EXACTLY what it says:
"Internet connection, online authentication and end user license agreement required to play. To access online features, you must register online with the enclosed serial code. Only one registration per game."
and, like many pointed out, a game and an account ON a game are two different things.
It really makes no sense to limit only one account to a game like this. Especially since it isn't really an online multiplayer (all you really do is download other people's content, you aren't fighting them or w/e).

I WAS going to let my boyfriend try it out, just because I wanted to share something I enjoy (even though I wouldn't let him stay on for long.. haha), but it seems I would have to let him go on my account and possibly earn achievements that I haven't gotten yet... which takes the fun out of the game.

It isn't like multiple accounts in a game hasn't been done... this game is going backwards while the graphics move forwards.
Pretty soon their games will have no save option either and you will have to play the game straight through to beat it.

Just don't like the way this is going.
BUT I do love the game and will continue to play it.
Sorry I cannot support you all any further.

*Edit* By accounts I mean profiles..
Just thought I'd say that because someone previous mentioned linked 'profiles' under a single 'account'.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11185.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11185.page GMT
However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation.[/quote]

That section in the manual was a misprint and will be corrected in future printings of the manual. There is one Spore registration/account per game/serial code so you are correct in that you cannot make multiple accounts at this time. I have sent your guys' feedback to the game team though since I can understand the desire to share a game on a system that you entire family uses.

~Violet[/quote]

Technically speaking...if a store misprints a price tag, don't they have to give it to the consumer at that price? Due to false advertising laws. If I knew all this before I bought the game, I would have waited to see what happened. I feel SCAMMED.

My daughter and I both use the game. I don't mind sharing the game with my daughter on my laptop, but I want to buy her, her own laptop this Christmas, and I refuse to buy her, her own game. I should be able to use this game in any computer in my house, not get separate games for both of us.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11192.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11192.page GMT
[/quote]

I love C&C but as sad as i will be. I wont be buying it... Because i have had it after Mass Effect Then Spore. I just cant take another EA Game Dramafest]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11286.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11286.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11308.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11308.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11311.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11311.page GMT
I just think it's insane... I have never seen such a greedy lying game comp ever.. And I really love.. LOVE how no where on the box or TV/Puter ad's it said anything about a 3 install limit. I guess they just wanted the quick buck's and run like hell....

Spore will be known as the game that caused EA to show there true color's. I mean everybody's getting to see how they run thing's. And everywhere I see review's about EA's support. And how they are handling spore. Hell it's even on talk show's and radio and tv game review place's.

R.I.P. Spore

And So Long EA]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11316.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11316.page GMT
This isn't going away, EA.

[quote]Spore will be known as the game that caused EA to show there true color's. I mean everybody's getting to see how they run thing's. And everywhere I see review's about EA's support. And how they are handling spore. Hell it's even on talk show's and radio and tv game review place's. [/quote]

The sad thing is, I thought Spore might be the game that saved PC gaming. But now it's looking like it might be the final nail in the coffin. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11368.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11368.page GMT
However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation.[/quote]

That section in the manual was a misprint and will be corrected in future printings of the manual. There is one Spore registration/account per game/serial code so you are correct in that you cannot make multiple accounts at this time. I have sent your guys' feedback to the game team though since I can understand the desire to share a game on a system that you entire family uses.

~Violet[/quote]

Technically speaking...if a store misprints a price tag, don't they have to give it to the consumer at that price? Due to false advertising laws. If I knew all this before I bought the game, I would have waited to see what happened. I feel SCAMMED.

My daughter and I both use the game. I don't mind sharing the game with my daughter on my laptop, but I want to buy her, her own laptop this Christmas, and I refuse to buy her, her own game. I should be able to use this game in any computer in my house, not get separate games for both of us.[/quote]

False advertising laws are tricky. This is kinda like when you go to a department store and they have a sign in the window that says there was a misprint in this week's ad circular. We can cry "Bait and Switch" all we want, but it won't make any difference. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11485.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11485.page GMT
Now I understand other people may have been issued the privilege to run a second account per installation, as the game was intended, as the manual states, as the ingame menu states.

Still, I am unable to log in to my free Spore account after spending good money on the software. If it was clear that only one account could be used per computer, I would not have purchased Spore.

EA simply ignores me on this matter. They have taken my money, now they cowardly pretend that me, a valid paying customer, does not exist. They have not explained to me why I can't play Creature Creator. They have taken away my rights to play software I purchased after Spore erased it. Spore even informs us we will have full access to the given CC features when playing Spore. Yet this is not the case. I have lost my right to play two different pieces of software I purchased.

And Spore is not an online game. The software simply downloads content. This is a single player game, plain and simple. I have purchased and installed software from EA, now I intend to use it. But EA comes up with ridiculous excuses when they could simply make note of their greedy mistake, and fix the problem. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11557.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11557.page GMT
In Spore's case, there is no misprint notification in the readme file. There was no indication prior to the post on this forum in which gave notice that the multiple accounts information was a misprint. Because EA was not proactive in getting the word out, anyone with the money to stick it to EA would likely get so far as a settlement since this would be very bad PR for EA. EA only bothered to give out information about this supposed misprint after people brought it up and started complaining. Timing is everything.

[quote=Dayner]guess iam not buying C&Cred alert 3 [/quote]Why in the world would you buy a C&C game in the first place? I'm sorry, but those games became crap ever since SPORE was kicked out. Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of Rise of Nations Gold or Sins of a Solar Empire.

EDIT: Did you know that SPORE can't be said? It's the name of a company! W-e-s-t-w-o-o-d. Did EA and that company really get their bridges burned that badly to block the name?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11641.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/11641.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12270.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12270.page GMT
[/quote]

I love C&C but as sad as i will be. I wont be buying it... Because i have had it after Mass Effect Then Spore. I just cant take another EA Game Dramafest[/quote]

I'm in the same boat. EA will never get another cent from me.

I wish west wood (really...you sensored your takeovers?) never got bought out . I had such a SPORE for them.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12570.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12570.page GMT
With so many ppl hating the idea of securom, they've just downloaded it. People who would otherwise have bought the game.

Good business strategy.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12597.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12597.page GMT [quote=Dayner]guess iam not buying C&Cred alert 3 [/quote]Why in the world would you buy a C&C game in the first place? I'm sorry, but those games became crap ever since SPORE was kicked out. Do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of Rise of Nations Gold or Sins of a Solar Empire.
[/quote]

don't get me wrong ,i do have Sins of a Solar Empire. and i join with Demigod Beta test .. and im having a blast with with them

but my point is why EA treat customers as potential criminals , they should learn a thing or two from Stardock or Stop making game all together

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[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/2857905880_183ff6fa63_o.png[/img]

Count me in with the crowd who will not be buying Sims 3... ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12749.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12749.page GMT
Ah there it is...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12806.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12806.page GMT
[img]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3017/2857905880_183ff6fa63_o.png[/img]

Count me in with the crowd who will not be buying Sims 3... [/quote]

Speaking of the whole "bad press" phenomenon going on with the game, is it actually affecting sales?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12815.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/12815.page GMT There was no indication prior to the post on this forum in which gave notice that the multiple accounts information was a misprint.[/quote]

even then you have to HAVE a regesterd acount to post on the forums, or to even GET to the forums.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13002.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13002.page GMT
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Sent in some new tickets asking for a new serial code for my gf.
Not sure what else I can do, really.

Keep up the good fight, guys!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13464.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13464.page GMT
[quote=dermeister]I heard many people did not receive any answer from Customer Service. I must be lucky, because they answered me both time I contacted them in the last 5 days.

Here's an official answer to my request to Customer Service of having multiple accounts on one single registred game:

[quote=EA Customer Service]Greetings,

Thank you for writing to Electronic Arts.

We apologize for any inconvenience but unfortunately, there is no way to create more that one account with any registration code. Moreover, registration code can only be used once to create one account and registration cannot be transferred between account.[/quote]

Here's what EA Customer Service had to say about the multi accounts in Creature Creator:

[quote=EA Customer Service]Further, Spore Creature Creator is a tool which only provides you the ability to create creature. This is not actually a game. Thus, there is not such registration restrictions with Spore Creature Creator and you can create multiple accounts.

Sincerely,

EARepCaine
Player Relations
Electronic Arts[/quote]

These 2 quotes put together are the last answer I got. The first answer was from "customer support". Note that this last one is from Player Relation. EA, P/R won't save you. You need developers to work on this, not PR...

[/quote]


Does this mean that, if/when I ever decide to actually buy the full game product of Spore, that the Creature Creator as a tool (which according to EA relations is not even a game but a tool) can be left installed on the same PC without having to be uninstalled prior to installing Spore, and without conflict?
rriigghhtt...this gets better and better. *grabs the popcorn out*
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End up spending 10 dollars on something I can't use anymore. I like this game but the overall experience is that this is my last EA purchase.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13767.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13767.page GMT
What kind of BS double talk is this?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13774.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/13774.page GMT
What kind of BS double talk is this?[/quote]

This is the same problem I have.

The fact that I cannot play my game on my friends computer even though I have an account. What were they thinking. What's the point of even having an account if the things you create or even your game play can't transfer to someone else's computer.

If it's only one account per game then it should be transferable data which would include game play, creatures, and everything in between. This isn't a X box where you have to transfer your HD to play your game on someone else's X box. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14019.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14019.page GMT
Not knowing that I would be limited to one account, I signed my wife up first for an account since she had first dibs on the game. So now I can't even complain about this under my own name because hers is the only account we have.

How is this even meant to limit piracy? If they put a cap on the allowable accounts to, lets say 20, all these problems would go away and any pirated version would run out of licenses VERY quickly and be rendered useless.

This is without a doubt the last time I purchae an EA game. Its too bad, I'm sure my wife was looking forward to Sims 3.

Ryan]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14096.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14096.page GMT
Not knowing that I would be limited to one account, I signed my wife up first for an account since she had first dibs on the game. So now I can't even complain about this under my own name because hers is the only account we have.

How is this even meant to limit piracy? If they put a cap on the allowable accounts to, lets say 20, all these problems would go away and any pirated version would run out of licenses VERY quickly and be rendered useless.

This is without a doubt the last time I purchae an EA game. Its too bad, I'm sure my wife was looking forward to Sims 3.

Ryan[/quote]

So is my GF, I'm going to steer her clear of purchasing it however. EA is on my list with things like the Titanic movie.

Stuff that will no longer be supported in my household and is smited on sight "I will never let you go! *psyche!*"]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14104.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14104.page GMT
Seriously. THIS ISSUE WILL NOT JUST GO AWAY AND BE ACCEPTED. So deal with it, don't ignore it.


Absolutely disgusting way to treat your customers. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14164.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14164.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14200.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14200.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14294.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14294.page GMT
Seriously. THIS ISSUE WILL NOT JUST GO AWAY AND BE ACCEPTED. So deal with it, don't ignore it.


Absolutely disgusting way to treat your customers. [/quote]


Confucius say; ignore something and it will go away........erm, or was that Confusion says

PM Maxis staff here: find a post of theirs, next to the profile box, click the PM button. Perhaps it might get more noticed if those it affected PM'd them lol
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]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14299.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14299.page GMT I'm more willing than most to put up with the DRM BS, but this is recockulous.
You expect my girlfriend to pay $50 to use another name in the game we already own? How much crack are you smoking?

are you actually TRYING to increase piracy of this game?

You know, I think my signature at Best Buy on my recipt was a misprint. I meant to write VOID, and accidently wrote my name. I assume that by your own logic you will be sending me a check, correct?
E-Mail me and we can set up payment.
THANKS!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14598.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14598.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14686.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14686.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14715.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14715.page GMT
Well yesterday she said to me.. I don't want to pre-order the sim's 3 anymore. And I said ohh.. You must not want any more drama from EA huh? ANd what she said about them I cant say on here LOL.

But to end the story... She work's in the medical field. And all her friend's at work from a few diff shift's use to hear her talk about sim's all the time. So most of like. like 40 of them got the sim's because of her. So here's the best part.

Today at work she told half of them and will tell the other half at the end of today's shift. Ok here's what you have been waiting for....

She told them all about spore. And how they handled the release. And how buggy and the support was being handled. And how she read all the drama on here. And from friend's of our's that couldn't install spore cus it wouldn't even let the disk be read. So she told them everything. And 17 out of 20 where going to pre-order it. But after she told them about the DRM crap and how spore was being handled. They all said they will not be getting the game prolly ever.

Because they listen to her when it comes to the sim's. And she listens to me when it comes to video games. Because I use to be a tester. And I use to write reviews for them. And have done quite a bit of beta on many games.

So after all that what happened in the end? EA bent over and took a huge dump on every person that paid for there games. The whole thing kinda makes me upset. Because they went after us the people who paid.. Why didn't they go after the SPORE downloaders.. I guess what can you expect from EA. Until mass effect I didn't think EA was that bad. But man they flipped my view on them fast as hell.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14716.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14716.page GMT
Last we got on friday was a message from Lucy in the general forum where they tried to brush us away with non-logical reasoning. I managed to get the 4th post and tried my best to build a case for us.

http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/921.page

Cheers,]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14748.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14748.page GMT
I bought this game on Saturday. Played it Saturday night. Girlfriend was watching me and became interested (that's an achievement as she is not a gamer). She played through it with me for 4 hours, then said, oh - i fancy playing this too.

Great i thought. So i log off as me, log in as her - double click Spore. Get asked for my serial number again (weird i thought), then proceeded to set her up a screen name.

Sorry - this serial number cannot be validated.

What? So i search the net, and come onto this forum. and find this.

EA / MAXIS. This is not on! I have ONE computer, ONE copy of the game, and despite having two user profiles on it, only ONE of us can play at any one time. Yet YOU want ME to pay £40 for another copy of the game?

Well, you've put a whole dampener on this. I know of three other people who were set to buy this this week, but are no longer going to as they can't have multiple accounts on the one game.

When will the 1.1 patch be released to allow multiple householders to share the same purchased copy?

I will be watching this thread carefully and with interest over the forthcoming days / weeks. I look forward to a suitable fix for this "BUG".

Regards.
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I bought this game on Saturday. Played it Saturday night. Girlfriend was watching me and became interested (that's an achievement as she is not a gamer). She played through it with me for 4 hours, then said, oh - i fancy playing this too.[/quote]

Many of us are right there with you [with one computer]. I haven't even created our first creature yet because I won't be able to enjoy the game unless my wife can play with her own character/profile.

The internet is full of complaints and postings - we have to keep complaining and yelling. They need to understand that this issue won't go away and if they ignore us, that people will stop buying their products.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14773.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14773.page GMT
I bought this game on Saturday. Played it Saturday night. Girlfriend was watching me and became interested (that's an achievement as she is not a gamer). She played through it with me for 4 hours, then said, oh - i fancy playing this too.[/quote]

Many of us are right there with you [with one computer]. I haven't even created our first creature yet because I won't be able to enjoy the game unless my wife can play with her own character/profile.

The internet is full of complaints and postings - we have to keep complaining and yelling. They need to understand that this issue won't go away and if they ignore us, that people will stop buying their products.[/quote]

I've played through on my own offline profile w/ one creature so far, through to the end of tribal, so that I can help my wife with her online-content-enabled playing (she is new to a lot of the genres it presents, though she and I have gone through Halo, Halo 2, and Halo 3 together, haha), but I've been spending quite a bit of time trying to make her not feel bad for installing the game first and trying it out before I had a chance to. I mean, to hear someone you love tell you they feel bad for playing a game before you did because they didn't realize they'd be locking the online-content of the game to them...? Come on. This is just ridiculous, and I feel it's idiotic to have anyone even be placed into that position.

/Bumping for resolution. EA, open your eyes, see what this is doing to the community, and fix it, please...or else you might not have such a large community in the future.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14831.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14831.page GMT
[quote=retrokid]EA / MAXIS. This is not on! I have ONE computer, ONE copy of the game, and despite having two user profiles on it, only ONE of us can play at any one time. Yet YOU want ME to pay £40 for another copy of the game?[/quote]

Oh, but it gets better than that that. You can't install two copies of Spore on one computer. Either you have to get a second computer or go through a long e-mail or phone process in order to use the new serial number you just paid money for.

So not only has EA made it so that only one account can be associated with a copy of Spore, they have even made it very difficult to get a second account on a single computer. And that's IF you buy a second copy.

This can not be possible. How can a game company say to itself that this is a good idea?

Goodbye EA. The longer you take to fix this, the less likely I'll buy ANYTHING from you again.
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And then I want to hear from someone who isnt a drone, someone with a *name*, someone who actually *made* this decision, why it was a good idea.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14932.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14932.page GMT
Morning yesrah

This issue is still burning me up too. You buy something in good faith, it's not what any reasonable person would expect and you have zero recourse. Oh yeah... I'm not going any where until we get better resolution.

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Unfortuantely, it isn't a good morning for me. I was hoping that for the rest of this month, before I go back to college, I could enjoy a really fun game with the rest of my family. You know, have someone playing the computer while others are sitting around yelling helpful advice and laughing when someone's creature gets eaten by a sea monster.

But no. EA has deemed that no more than one person per family can fully enjoy the game. Sure, my sisters can play on my account, but it's not the same and it's certainly not what we expected.

We need to stick together on this, and keep posting on these threads. We have already had some effect (even if EA ignores us). Just look at the Amazon.com ratings! If you google for news on Spore, there are a significant number of articles on the controversy of Spores anti-pirating mechanisms.

Keep it up, and this could get fixed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14975.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14975.page GMT
This is definately getting a lot of attention, I think more than the DRM install limit issue itself - google for "spore multiple accounts"]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14994.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/14994.page GMT
I love this, its hilarious. I thought I'd be the only one here who'd be pissed off about the single account thing, but apparently not. I'm just one of those many cases where someone bought this game with the intention that one or more family members and oneself would be able to enjoy the game to its full potential, until they booted up the game and were faced with the dismal truth.

I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to get another account when I spent a good 2 hours on the phone with EA and it got to the point where the support associate refused to answer my questions anymore. The only thing this "drone", to quote dredge, would say is, "To activate a second account you will have to buy another copy of Spore" or "would you like me to escalate this to my superior?" I hung up the phone at this point, now realizing I probably should have escalated it, and just went about my day with this "thing" bothering me.

I have to say, after reading through all 29 pages of posts and doing a bit of research myself, I am utterly disappointed at the disregard of customer ownership. Not sure if that's the right word, but it doesn't make much sense for EA to put such harsh DRM restrictions on a game like this. Surely there must be other ways in which they could provide the same amount of security against pirating and still please the legitimate consumer.

I'm don't know too much about the technical data in regards to pirating, but even I can think of a work around that would please both sides. What they should have done is make it that to play the game, a customer must create an online account, and in that, installing the game itself would be useless unless you are able to register your serial number through EA games. This would remove the install limit because it would be redundant. Also, to have some form of restriction, there could be a limit on how many accounts can be made, satisfying this whole crowd here.

Well, I think this message is long enough. I am pleased I'm worked up enough to actually post something, but I think its necessary for everyone to voice their opinion to get the point across. I now FIRMLY oppose spending any money on a title created by EA that has such restrictions that will dampen the fun factor of the game. If it is possible, I'd go back to BestBuy and get my money back because I can't find it in myself to play this game knowing that my sister, who just recently has become a big fan of this Spore, would not be able to enjoy it as I will.

This is to you EA, I want to thank you for letting me save money as I WILL NOT be purchasing anything with your branding on it. Don't count on my pre-order of the Sims 3 to happen anytime soon.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15141.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15141.page GMT
GAMESPY does an official news article about this!!!!

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/909755p1.html]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15198.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15198.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15269.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15269.page GMT

Thank you drish for that link. This is exactly the sort of thing we need. As more articles like this come out, more people who would have bought the game for their family will decide not to.

Well over a week from release and this problem should have been fixed by now, and not just "addressed" by saying "hey, it's impossible, go buy another copy".

Sure, I can wait a few more weeks, but if they do release a fix by then, I won't be sure if I'll buy anymore EA products anyway.


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Good luck to those who are pursing this with EA. I neither have the time nor patience to deal with such a pathetic company.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15280.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15280.page GMT
Just out of ceriosity, what do you mean by "merged" your accounts? I've been letting my sisters play off of my account, but that's not really merging their old accounts with mine.

Anyway, I'm glad you're letting your kids play. This game could be so family oriented! Imagine, a game so great that every family member would want to play!

[quote=jgsato]Good luck to those who are pursing this with EA. I neither have the time nor patience to deal with such a pathetic company. [/quote]

I know it seems like were beating our heads against a wall, but just posting here has and will continue to have an effect. So keep it up! Voice your thoughts, opinions or storys on this thread! With nearly 30,000 views of this thread, I think we should be able to keep going for a while.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15326.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15326.page GMT
GAMESPY does an official news article about this!!!!

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/909755p1.html[/quote]

Yes we may have gamesy on our side
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Also, patch the space stage already!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15355.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15355.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15565.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15565.page GMT
[/quote]

I would like to point out that you still entered a key for BF2142. You could ONLY register one new account with that key. You could also sign in with an account that has already bounded with a key. This is different than battlefield 2, which didn't have the CD key tied to an actual account, but actually bounded by the machine you were on.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15572.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15572.page GMT
Just out of ceriosity, what do you mean by "merged" your accounts? I've been letting my sisters play off of my account, but that's not really merging their old accounts with mine.
[/quote]

They had Creature Creator accounts in their Windows Vista Accounts. When they log in using my Spore account it uploads THEIR creatures.
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GAMESPY does an official news article about this!!!!

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/909755p1.html[/quote]

Yes we may have gamesy on our side
[/quote]

Yes! This is THE BEST article on the problem yet. It covers all the points I have. I nominate this as our official news story. Thank you, Gamespy! I think they're my new favorite site because of this. Quality reporting. LEt's send this article to the list of EA PR contacts I posted a while back.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15657.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15657.page GMT
Hear this EA. I'm sorry for any crazy or negative remarks I've made during this thread... Do you understand - APOLOGIZE. It's not hard. And in this HUGE business structure, it appears you are unaware. You don't realize that many, many gamers dislike your products and your worthless customer support structure (none).

I've still had not a single response from tech support - over 170hrs... Others have been given a second account upon their machines. I get nothing.

But that's OK... I'm not mad. I'm simply disappointed buy an extremely huge company. Where do I stand anyway amongst a stronghold like yours?





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GAMESPY does an official news article about this!!!!

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/909755p1.html[/quote]

Yes we may have gamesy on our side
[/quote]

Yes! This is THE BEST article on the problem yet. It covers all the points I have. I nominate this as our official news story. Thank you, Gamespy! I think they're my new favorite site because of this. Quality reporting. LEt's send this article to the list of EA PR contacts I posted a while back.[/quote]

I contacted GameSpy with a follow up on that. They might pick it up from there.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15817.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15817.page GMT
Edit again - Some weird server $tuff.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15822.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15822.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15824.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15824.page GMT
There's a fair number of web sites linking to this post now and a lot of people waiting to see what EAs next move is going to be. But it's obvious to me that everything they've said up until now just doesn't hold up.

We are the customers here...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15857.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15857.page GMT http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/909755p1.html

This is THE BEST article on the problem yet. It covers all the points I have. I nominate this as our official news story. Thank you, Gamespy! I think they're my new favorite site because of this. Quality reporting. LEt's send this article to the list of EA PR contacts I posted a while back.[/quote]

The GameSpy guys wrote one thing to think about:

[quote=GameSpoy]"User feedback on the official forums posit that this [Online Account Limit] may actually be a larger issue for Spore users than EA's decision to use DRM software."[/quote]

Actually both things may be the both sides of the same coin. It is possible that the Online Account Limit of "1" and the DRM are linked: The account limit might be be necessary for the EA DRM so that EA is able to firmly connect the Serial No. to the Online Account, as officially stated, to limit online access to the first user. The "change account" option and the manual telling about it indicate that EA perhaps had to cripple the online functionality of Spore for being able to enforce this kind DRM.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15882.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15882.page GMT
This is a failure on EA's part. If they cared, or were half @$$ clued in, they would realize that their entire piracy protection failed.

Now they sit, dumbfounded, as if we the paying customers did not exist.
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If it's a misprint, when can I expect EA to ship me a replacement manual, I didn't invest extra money in the Galactic Edition just to have shoddy editing.

Also, I had to install on my work laptop because it's the only computer I have around with Windows on it anymore, and the DRM stopped me using the game in WINE, when I give the laptop back, am I going to be completely screwed?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15971.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/15971.page GMT
The point isn’t whether or not I see other people’s content on my computer; it’s what content OTHER people see when they look at MY account! And personally, I would like MY account to contain MY creations, and my son’s account to contain HIS creations. And right now, EA has made that impossible. Thanks a lot guys.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16056.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16056.page GMT
But you CAN do this right now, as long as you’re using one account. You can have up to THREE copies of the game running simultaneously, as long as they’re all linked to the same account. So what you would call “the equivalent of owning 2 copies of any game” is something that is already allowed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16067.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16067.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16079.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16079.page GMT
EA, this is something you have to FIX, because it's a PROBLEM, no matter how many times you say it's intentional.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16161.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16161.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16302.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16302.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16430.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16430.page GMT NO WAY EATHER FIX THE PROBLEM OR i WILL GO TO MY NEWS CHANNLE AND ASK THE GUY WHO HELPS PEOPLE WHO GET RIPPED OFF...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16521.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16521.page GMT
[quote=Harp08]NO WAY EATHER FIX THE PROBLEM OR i WILL GO TO MY NEWS CHANNLE AND ASK THE GUY WHO HELPS PEOPLE WHO GET RIPPED OFF... [/quote]

If you think it will get publicity, then do it anyway. There are already quite a few online articles about this, but it's apparently not enought for EA to notice yet.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16769.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/16769.page GMT
I emailed at 7am on Friday (Pacific Coast time here in the US), and have not yet gotten a response either. That's 36.5 hrs in Monday through Friday time, or 84.5 hrs otherwise. -shrug-]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17005.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17005.page GMT
7 days, 570 posts, more then 30 000 views in 2 threads.

2 official answers from EA calling this a misprint/mistaken information

EA, I hope you understand by now the amplitude of your "mistake" and will take action to correct it.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17250.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17250.page GMT
[b]I think EA needs to learn how to "[i]Evolve[/i]" maybe play spore themselves to learn how?[/b]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17278.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17278.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17291.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17291.page GMT
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/14/1510217

This is ridiculus!! Why can't they fix the game that is causing the problem in the first place!?!?!

Worst thing is, now I'm starting to lose respect for Maxis too. I would have thought that someone there would have noticed this by now and talked to someone in EA. Maybe they don't have much say in the matter, but still......

Any bets that we'll get a positive response within the month?
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17325.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17325.page GMT
Bump.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17399.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17399.page GMT
Frankly, if I had known we could only have one account, we would not have bought the game.

If EA doesn't reverse this decision (and they can do it - Bioshock used the same DRM (SecuROM) and 2K patched the game after release to loosen the DRM restrictions, plus at least one person in the UK has been given a second login for free so his wife can have her own account) then I will be taking this up with Consumer Affairs.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17438.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17438.page GMT
I have to admit, if I had known beforehand, I would have been torn. I had been looking forward to this game more than any other, but to play I would have to sacrifice the enjoyment of the rest of my family. How horrible of EA to put people in this situation in the first place.

You know, for a thread that has been the hottest topic of the forum pretty much ever since it was created, EA is sure doing a good job of completely ignoring us.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17454.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17454.page GMT
So, if I am understanding this article correctly there are a few people, or one at least, that has been able to get a second account with one registration.

Can anyone else verify this?
[url]http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/stemot/spore-multiple-accounts-yes-no-says-ea-102729.phtml[/url]

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17455.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17455.page GMT
http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/09/14/1510217

This is ridiculus!! Why can't they fix the game that is causing the problem in the first place!?!?!

Worst thing is, now I'm starting to lose respect for Maxis too. I would have thought that someone there would have noticed this by now and talked to someone in EA. Maybe they don't have much say in the matter, but still......

Any bets that we'll get a positive response within the month?
[/quote]


Makes for interesting read.

I was going to add some info here, but like EA/Maxis, can't be arsed.

This is some info though on securom, which is also linked/referened within Spores own help section.
http://www.securom.com/support_faq.asp
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So, if I am understanding this article correctly there are a few people, or one at least, that has been able to get a second account with one registration.

Can anyone else verify this?
[url]http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/stemot/spore-multiple-accounts-yes-no-says-ea-102729.phtml[/url]

[/quote]


[i]stemot's Destructoid Blog
stemot says:
(# 19) on 09/13/2008 12:13
I just received this e-mail from EA:-

Quote:
Hello Ste,

This is Canon again. I deeply apologise for the continued difficulties with the Spore game. There was a minor issue with the entitlement, which has now been fixed. You may now retry with logging in to your 'xxxx@xxxxx.com' account, you should now have the same privileges with the aforementioned account.

Regarding the screenshot you provided with the "conflicting" statement, this is not a mistaken statement as an account that already has Spore entitled to it should be able to make use of the said option. Since you now have two accounts with Spore entitlements, you may use the Logout feature as needed.

Best Regards,

Canon D.
Electronic Arts™ Customer Support
Indeed. I can now log on with two accounts as I needed in the first please.
I guess I should be happy, and I am, but I can't help feeling that if it can be done, why are they holding it back?
So if you do want multiple accounts, pester the **** out of EA and threaten them with Trading Standards etc, worked for me.

EDIT:- The funny thing is, I was getting on to Trading Standards this afternoon too, no reason too now.
[/i]


I do believe that this has been posted around here somewhere, maybe even earlier in this thread (either that or I've read it elsewhere already).

If what's to be read is true, then yes, it does seem that according to the statement in italics above, that they got a 2nd account.
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If they get thousands of legitimate requests for second or third accounts (now they have revealed that yes, they can do it) then it will be easier for them to just patch the game and let everyone have multiple accounts.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17578.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17578.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17677.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17677.page GMT
If they cared about server load, they would not have made a news event out of hitting X million creatures uploaded. They must think we are tragically gullible.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17699.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17699.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17719.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17719.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17724.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17724.page GMT
I mean, seriously, "most pirated game ever"! So obviously all their malware crap is not working and it's only peeing off us legit customers, causing even more piracy.

The only way to stop piracy is if you make people WANT to buy the product.

So afr I'm the only player in the household but I can very well imagine what trouble this causes in families with more players and just 1 PC especially when they had previously had multi accounts for CC.

BTW it's not much of a boycot if people go and download pirated software instead. That's just being weak and having no principles. If you're truly peed off, then stop playing those games altogether, period. Rising pirate numbers only give short-sighted companies like EA more of an excuse to screw over paying customers.

For me Sims 3 will be the breakpoint, so I guess we'll see what they'll do, and if they will learn from this and dump the entire SecuROM crap for good. If not, I guess Maxis will either step out or die out.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17809.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17809.page GMT BTW it's not much of a boycot if people go and download pirated software instead. That's just being weak and having no principles. If you're truly peed off, then stop playing those games altogether, period. Rising pirate numbers only give short-sighted companies like EA more of an excuse to screw over paying customers.
[/quote]

As I pointed out somewhere else, getting pirated copy is the only way for some people who have purchased the game, to get it working and/or to have a backup copy and/or to be sure, that they will be able to play the game in the future, when EA looses any interest in *khem* supporting the game...

So, well... yeah...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17837.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17837.page GMT As I pointed out somewhere else, getting pirated copy is the only way for some people who have purchased the game, to get it working and/or to have a backup copy and/or to be sure, that they will be able to play the game in the future, when EA looses any interest in *khem* supporting the game...

So, well... yeah...[/quote]

Yeah I understand that, totally, I was just talking about those people who were talking of a real boykot. By downloading and cracking pirated versions you're only hurting users who paid for their copy and then cannot play it at all cause someone stole their key (as seen some posts further back).

It may be different if you DL a ripped version but still use the key you got on your own legally bought CD. I see no issue there, anything without SecuROM is great!

btw how I understand it, regardless of how many times you legitly buy a copy of the game, if you only have 1 PC only 1 person can have their account registered, is that correct? Since you cannot install multiple versions of a game on a single system, right? I mean you don't even have the option for multiple offline profiles or anything, so basicly they're saying this is NOT a family game and only 1 person can play it effectively (to the full potential).

I'm just no fan of piracy in any form because it can make people greedy and detached from the value of things. I'm also a devoted gamer and I especially love the smaller game companies and I would never dream of illegally downloading something from Lionhead.

Which brings me back to Sims 3 and maybe skipping it, in the favour of Fable 2, since in Fable 2 you can also sorta play like a sim, just have more adventures.

I have no hopes for EA resolving this and I already warned all my family and friends to not buy spore if they want to share and so far they all reconsidered, so that 5+ less sales for EA and when they come over to my place they can play on one of my side planets but EA won't get any more money out of them.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17869.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17869.page GMT
I bought my copy, you have my money, so spore off! ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17921.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17921.page GMT And #5 on CNET]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17937.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/17937.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18025.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18025.page GMT
Every time they come up with an excuse the issue grows even greater because there's not a logical reason why two or more people can't access their free Spore accounts on a single PC. Every time EA - Maxis makes a comment they're portraying undying corporate greed, and ignorance, with no positive regards for their entire customer base.

Like many others on this topic I purchase a lot of games, and have been doing so for MANY years. I have my gaming PC, a 360, a Wii, and I'm quick to purchase games that my household anticipate will be good. Never have I had a problem like this. I've bought every single Sim City title (I still play Sim City 4), all of the Sims (the first game) and the endless line of overpriced expansion packs. The reason I didn't buy any Sims 2 is because my household grew tired of the expansion pack hassle. We knew EA would release and franchise Sims 2 the exact same way. They lost my money for any future Sims 3 or beyond.

I've bought Madden, NBA Live, Tiger Woods, and many other titles embraced with the EA logo. I stopped buying all of their sports games over the past year or two. Madden simply blows IMHO and is overpriced for simple roster updates, bland graphics, and stupid features. And I now play the MUCH better NBA 2K series and gave up Tiger Woods all together after buying the buggy Wii version.

I had looked forward to Mercenaries 2... Now I find another one of my favorite games to be worthless for the most part. The bugs and various glitches are horrendous meaning the game should not have been released. But the big time publisher EA cares not about the buggy games they release. EA has one plan - a simple plan. Release games, quick and in rapid succession, regardless of minor flaws or bugs. "Here's a deadline - release the game no matter what!"

This type of corporate maneuvering works for them. People are still going to buy Madden every year no matter what - they need their NFL fix. EA will continue their attempt to monopolize this market, buying and pursuing hostile takeovers of game publishers and developers. This works for EA, but not for me. I find myself, and others around me, buying fewer and fewer EA game titles.

And here is EA at its best with Spore. They must really think their entire consumer base is clueless. Who ELSE would pull these scandalous tactics with a highly anticipated game? No gaming publisher I know of, except EA. They are simply attempting to milk their customers with some last minute EXECUTIVE decision. I feel sorry for Maxis having to look these EA executives in they eye as the giant publisher commences to destroy everything that is good about gaming.

So I feel our concerns about Spore, this issue about family members or friends sharing a single installation, will go unresolved by the greedy EA. They may soon tell us to buy multiple computers and multiple copies of Spore before actually fixing this. They simply do not care about our concerns. It's obvious from the few responses we've had on this thread, and the total silent treatment their tech support. This is how it is, they don't care what their customers want, they just expect our money to keep rolling into their pockets.

More than 194 hrs. - Still no response from EA tech support.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18136.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18136.page GMT
This is definately getting a lot of attention, I think more than the DRM install limit issue itself - google for "spore multiple accounts"[/quote]

LOL you think thats all thats getting attention. I did a news server search for all new's that has to do with spore. And let's just say out of the 23,000+ reports done all over the globe. Very few where good ones. Like i could say maybe 5% of them where good... LOL. And thats bein nice. Prolly like under 4%.. But still..

EA need's to say something about this.. They really do.. Ignoreing everyone is just bad business.. They are even getting listings put on the BBB. Check them out. They are rated a very bad company. [url]http://goldengate.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=99&bbb=1116&firm=64196[/url]

Click that above and leave your feedback. That will get there attention. I bet you!!!! Because they care about feedback when left there!!!!!! they get ranked as the worst business and alerts are sent out!!! LOL.

But my god look at how many bad thing's that have gone wrong with them and people.. Jesus!. Go there now and check them out or even fill out a complaint (if needed tho) Just to be clear. Thats like for people who cant get refund's from them. Or there game dont work and they wont do nuffin about it. Or what ever. Im sure you could write one about it being a crappy product and they will be forced to do something!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18137.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18137.page GMT
Every one go here and do some reading up on EA. Because the way stuff is going it's makeing alot of people study up on them.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Arts[/url]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18163.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18163.page GMT
Its a shame because stuff like this actually forces people to pirate the games.

I have a legitimate copy with a legitimate code, but in order to create a second account for my girlfriend..... because of this stupid decision by EA (which really doesn't come as a surprise...we all know what they are like).... I have a choice... go out and spend another £39 on a second copy of the game so i can run another account on the EXACT same machine.... OR.... get a cracked version... (which a five year old could find by the way)

Hmm... which do you think most people are gonna choose.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18189.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18189.page GMT
Bump for justice!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18295.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18295.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18380.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18380.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18416.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18416.page GMT
You know what? That would be extremely bad for this forum, because a lot ofe people, myslef included, would just go nuts.

Oh, I wouldn't do anything to get me banned, but I would start a new thread about this in every forum, and be more angry than ever.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18438.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18438.page GMT
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2008/09/12/spore-drm-piracy-tech-security-cx_ag_mji_0912spore.html
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Yeah, I read that too. You would think that by now EA would have caught on.
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Yeah, I read that too. You would think that by now EA would have caught on.
[/quote]

To catch on something you need a clue. We all know EA is clueless.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18611.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18611.page GMT
[url]http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169939[/url]

It says here that EA has received a perfect rating by the Corporate Equality Index. Just throwing it out there, but it doesn't change the fact that we've been mislead by false advertising and should receive the account functionality Spore intended. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18614.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18614.page GMT
[url]http://www.simprograms.com/?p=1979#comments [/url]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18638.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18638.page GMT
EA: fix it now!! What does it take?!?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18714.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18714.page GMT
[url]http://www.simprograms.com/?p=1979#comments [/url][/quote]

Send the link above to everyone on the PR page and to tech support and ask for a CONSISTENT POLICY. This is ridiculous.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18741.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18741.page GMT
All i want it for my husband to have a separate log in (EA user name) on the same pc!
We don't even want to install this on a different PC, just the same windows machine with a different online account. I can not believe that this is not possible. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18781.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18781.page GMT I bought Spore for my husband but to be used on just my pc (the only windows PC in the house) so i thought i'd be nice and install it for him before he got back from a horrible meeting at work. I already had an account from the CC so i logged in to check it worked.......

Now he can't play the full game.

Thanks EA for making me trying to be nice end up ruining a present.

[quote=Chamtha]My wife bought this for me for my birthday. She happened to be able to play it before me, and so I sit down to play, lo and behold, I can't use online features.

Low blow EA. Really low blow.

Sure you can argue semantics, but obviously, the people in charge of all the legalese and proofreading stuff initially viewed a distinction between "registration" and "accounts."

To me, one registration means you can only install it on one system, akin to a license. Multiple accounts (different words, stated we would get it in the manual) means multiple users on the same system. At least that's how I took it, until I couldn't use online and here I am on the internet.

Someone on here said they would pay. I say poppycock. Why should I have to pay for a service that was free when we purchased the game, just not for both of us?

EA once again takes something wonderful and ruins it, being more concerned with dollars and bottom lines than customer satisfaction.

I call shennanigans. Get your brooms people.[/quote]]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18850.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18850.page GMT
Any other game I've ever owned at least can acknowledge the existence of other players. If I have a save game MY accomplishments are kept separate from my FRIENDS accomplishments. Even something as simple as Mario Kart understands that. And yet here we have a program that half the marketing is dedicated to how awesome it is to make things. But only one user can make things. It's like selling a version of PHOTOSHOP where every image is covered in a big nasty watermark stating the first user's name.

This is bull-flop.
And I for one am ACTIVELY telling people not to buy this game until this issue is FIXED.

FIXED! Not just addressed in some perfunctory press release that tells the fans where they can stick it.

]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18896.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18896.page GMT
Anyway I'd like to state for the record that this is a good game. I had my doubts at first and everything seemed pretty shallow through the first stages, but overall the scope and playability are very interesting to partake. Once again Maxis has delivered something fun, something new, something for everyone to enjoy. So I take back a comment I made a while back, about the game being extremely shallow.

And we have been running Spore without a hitch. Unlike most PC games that ship all bugged out, Spore runs great. I've read the many thread lines about problems other people are having, but on my rig everything is smooth sailing (with all graphics options maxed, 5.1 surround). Good job Maxis.

Now can someone over there at EA pull down those corporate blinders and give Maxis the go ahead to fix the multiple accounts per PC problem. What's our other option? I've read how someone bought two copies for one PC, still only one account would work. Clearly this thread would go away and be quickly buried beneath the flood if EA would satisfy us customers with NORMAL PC GAMING FUNCTIONALITY. Clearly you can't claim Spore to be a new genre? What do you call it - Massive Multiplayer Single Player Game??? Come on... Yes Spore is unique, but it is nothing new. It's just another single player game, with a creative twist where people can choose to share custom created content. People have been sharing mods and other content in gaming for a long, long time. Just like Sim City 4 - We shared custom land regions, custom cities, custom buildings... And we did that without a hitch, no probs.

EA if you want to make more money, try making better games. Don't try ripping off your consumers and expect us to keep coming back. People can live without the Sims if they have to. Just stop digging this hole and open up to the people who are buying your products. Something called customer relations, in which are not going well for you right now EA. Fixing this might be a good start, don't ya think?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18935.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18935.page GMT
On the other hand, you might be happy with what's being offered to you. In that case, good for you. I mean it.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18979.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/18979.page GMT
Who else here has been alive for at least a decade? I've watched them consume and destroy for quite sometime.

I was just under the impression that the deal they made with wright was that he'd make a blockbuster and they'd SPORE and give him money (I'm paraphrasing an interview some EA upper guy had with a game magazine).

I wish I still had the mag...it would be funny when looking at modern day SPORE.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19061.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19061.page GMT
Here's the way I see it: If none of us had seen the videos that showed all the really cool things that were supposed to be in the game, then we wouldn't be seeing it as shallow as we are. Because we did see those videos, we became very disapointed that some very cool things were not put in.

In general, I agree; the game is shallow. However, I expect LOTS to added through expansion packs. Yes, that means EA would be squeezing us for every last penny. But it's Spore, and I would have done it.

Now, however, EA has done something I can't turn a blind eye to. From my perspective, this single account bullhocky is the single most detrimental aspect of the game.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19074.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19074.page GMT
Here's the way I see it: If none of us had seen the videos that showed all the really cool things that were supposed to be in the game, then we wouldn't be seeing it as shallow as we are. Because we did see those videos, we became very disapointed that some very cool things were not put in.[/quote]

The only problem is, I didn't watch the trailers until very recently. I have to admit, what was proposed was very interesting and hooked me up, but, I was expecting a lot more content. Once in space, there not much to be done. Defend from pirates, enemies and Grox, avoid eco-disasters, make alliances and establish trade routes, explore the galaxy. Finally, you have to go to the galaxy's center.

Where is the story? There is nothing.
Are there any quests? Not really. Incentives to get badges yes. Stuff to find on planets to terraform or useless junk to collect, but that's it.
Any interaction between races? Except for the above missions, no.

I'm sorry but even though the game itself seemed fun at first, there is nothing that will keep me hooked up. When I'm able to play without problems I will "finish" it, that is go to the center of the galaxy, do whatever has to be done there and cyber-shelf it until, hopefully, some content is added.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19098.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19098.page GMT
Anyway, EA where the heck are you? How long will it take for us to get your attention?

EDIT: Yeah, see what I mean? I couldn't see madjack's last post until I posted. Weird.
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A bug? that's a big surprise!

Guess we'll have to keep adding more posts!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19186.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19186.page GMT
Read my BBB complaint which I added to my first post on the other thread (easy to find).

http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/921.page

What do you think?
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19376.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19376.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19429.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19429.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19578.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19578.page GMT
[url]http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3169939[/url]

It says here that EA has received a perfect rating by the Corporate Equality Index. Just throwing it out there, but it doesn't change the fact that we've been mislead by false advertising and should receive the account functionality Spore intended. [/quote]

lol. im sure EA prolly give the dude that wrote that a few grand. hahahaha. Hell they give Securom about 5% of there total income from spore to use it. Im sure that a few grand to people to write good reviews aint no issue to them. Or the writer was smokein crack. Cus out of all the research i have done over the past week. All the source's i have found said they are a very bad business. Even the BBB said so. And they dont make stuff up. Hell its in big bold letter's. "Unsatisfactory Business" on the BBB review of over 200,000+ people that have filed issue's with them. Not to mention the wive's of the people who work for EA. I was reading alot of there blog's And let's just say that speaks for it's self.. The guy they go though.. I would never work for EA. sorry...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19658.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19658.page GMT
Who else here has been alive for at least a decade? I've watched them consume and destroy for quite sometime.

I was just under the impression that the deal they made with wright was that he'd make a blockbuster and they'd SPORE and give him money (I'm paraphrasing an interview some EA upper guy had with a game magazine).

I wish I still had the mag...it would be funny when looking at modern day SPORE.[/quote]

Yea i remember alot of nasty stuff EA has done. 2 word's....

West Wood

^------ R.I.P.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19679.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19679.page GMT
Here's the way I see it: If none of us had seen the videos that showed all the really cool things that were supposed to be in the game, then we wouldn't be seeing it as shallow as we are. Because we did see those videos, we became very disapointed that some very cool things were not put in.

In general, I agree; the game is shallow. However, I expect LOTS to added through expansion packs. Yes, that means EA would be squeezing us for every last penny. But it's Spore, and I would have done it.

Now, however, EA has done something I can't turn a blind eye to. From my perspective, this single account bullhocky is the single most detrimental aspect of the game.[/quote]

You know whats funny. I bet half of the board on EA voted to charge 50 dollar's for a 1 install copy. And some prolly wanted it to have 30 day acess. I mean really how can they say they didnt want to do that? Cus 3 install's and 1 account. I wouldnt pust anything past EA.. Yall are some sad sad people...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19692.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19692.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19704.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19704.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19841.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19841.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19964.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/19964.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20053.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20053.page GMT

I cannot believe that EA have first of all either screwed up with the manual ("misprint", LMFAO), or taken the decision that only one person can play the game in your household.

Its no wonder that I am the only person I know who paid for this game.

Serious disappointment, and my new Alienware has seen it's last EA game until this is resolved and is made 'as advertised'

~ karembeu]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20229.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20229.page GMT
I can deal with three installs, I can deal with home-base checks , and I'll even tolerate SecuROM sitting there in my computer's memory. All I want is to be able to have multiple unique accounts on my computer for me and my wife. That's all.

Why is that so much to ask? Obviously it was a feature yanked at the last minute ("misprint" - yeah, right) and it would be an easy job to reinstate it.

Just give us this one thing and you'll win back a LOT of good will.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20348.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20348.page GMT
Blowin up bytes on there Multi-Raid 4TB server's aint nuffin to them. So hit EA where it hurt's. There wallet!

EA is like a buncha honey bee's. If there building where to catch fire or something and you could see in from the top like a bee give. You would see the board and the CEO and the rest of the suites runnin around grabbin all the money they could. (Just like bee's with a smoker) =P

I better shut up. Cus i might be givein EA a idea for a new game. It would be a FPS game. Called Outrage.

It starts out where your in a mall. And your buyin a game. And you dont like it and people hate it cus it's crap. So you have to fight your way to the EA HQ and serve payback! MUHAHAAH!!!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20444.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20444.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20447.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20447.page GMT
This is exactly what is I'm talking about. That's all I want. If they did more, incredible, but if they do just this, I'll be happy.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20476.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20476.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20546.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20546.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20601.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20601.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20706.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20706.page GMT
this wouldn't be the first time EA took part in false advertising. they did it with crysis as well. it pissed off a lot of people (including myself, but i got my money back for the game), and to the best of my knowledge they are still ignoring them.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20731.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20731.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20882.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20882.page GMT
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/spore-technical-support/335416-you-may-have-multiple-spore-accounts-each-installation-game-6.html#post5727440]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20903.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20903.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20947.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20947.page GMT
I'm starting to think EA could care less....

I'm gonna go play some Sins of a Solar Empire now...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20994.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/20994.page GMT
I am disabled and on a very strict budget. I buy maybe one game a year (and usually one of the cheap $10 games that are already years old) but when I heard about Spore about a year and a half ago I began saving my pennies each month...and I do mean that literally. Sometimes I'd only be able to put aside less than a dollar toward my Spore fund. When the game came out I had just enough saved up to buy it. My significant other of seven years was also interested in playing the game, and she normally HATES video games, so this seemed like a wise purchase.

Well, despite some features that I immediately saw could use some upgrading/revamping (and assumed they would in future patches/expansions/Spore2), I was quite pleased with the game...until the inevitable trying to register my girlfriend. I'm sure you've heard many times over how upset people are when their family members couldn't play their "own" game...well, just add my girlfriend to the list.

Please fix this issue EA so that my girlfriend, who works full-time (since I'm unable to work) and goes to school full-time in order to try to provide a better life for us can play this game she was looking forward to. Heck, at this point I'd be happy if I could unregister my name to this seriel code and register hers.

If you did so, thank you for listening. If not, buzz buzz buzz.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21132.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21132.page GMT
We must keep pushing.

Knowing EA and their history they won't care but the more people we can educate about the restrictions of the game before buying the game the better.

There's no problem with people buying it if they know what the limitations are. It's their own choice then which is something we didn't have when we bought the game.

In times like these 50 Euros (or whatever the game cost anywhere else) is a LOT of money to many families, and it's not everyday we can still afford a new game. And to be screwed over by such a large game company like that, with something that hits mainly families with children is downright evil.

I made up my mind that Spore is my LAST EA game, until they change their entire policy. I'll still play all the games I have (30+ from EA, I counted them and was shocked!!!) cause I paid for them, I might as well play them. But no more new games, most importantly, no more Sims expansion packs...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21169.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21169.page GMT
I've been a loyal customer to them/Maxis for years. I've purchased every Sim title, Every Sims 2 title, and now, Spore. I have been looking forward to the Sims 3 since before it was announced.

I can. not. believe that a company could have this little respect for their customers/fan base. It's appalling that they are willing to sacrifice their reputation (and with a good reputation comes more money) for their bottom line. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21307.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21307.page GMT http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_knQsNb7SdI&feature=related
(for a longer and better version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWGaFEA41I&feature=related )
Doesn't it fit just like a glove on EA's businessmen?
Pay attention to the "costumer service" he talks about. Isn't that the way they teach people in EA how to treat the customer? It really looks so to me!
I never felt more sorry about buying a game before...
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All of the net is swarming with angry people, though, so maybe it will really make a difference this time.

EA simply cannot ignore this any longer, even if they won't adress the spore problem, if they want to keep making money they will need to adjust their "copy (read:paying customer) control" policies.

Its so sad because I always loved MAXIS games and I do enjoy spore here and there, but EA is killing anything good that MAXIS and other game creators could contribute to the gaming world.
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To add insult to injury the game reminds me every time I play (after attempting to use either login) that I will not be able to access all the features of the game by playing offline.

What other option do I have?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21465.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21465.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21547.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21547.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/921.page




Thank you for contacting the Better Business Bureau (BBB) regarding your complaint.

The complaint was received by the BBB on September 16, 2008 and has been assigned case# 57128420 in our files. Please make a note of this number.

Your complaint has been applied to the following business:
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Redwood City, CA 94065-1175

[color=darkblue]The case has been reviewed by one of our Dispute Resolution Specialists and has now been forwarded to the business for their response.[/color] Should you hear directly from the company and the complaint is resolved, please notify us immediately.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21568.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21568.page GMT
On the other hand, you might be happy with what's being offered to you. In that case, good for you. I mean it.[/quote]

Ah yea it's shallow. And I'm still in the beginning phase of the space stage so I'm actually having some fun. But I wish there was more to do in the creature, tribal, civ, stages. The game feels real fresh when you first start playing, but after running around in the creature stage making friends or eating every other creature in sight, the boredom kicks in pretty fast.

To be honest this feels like Maxis left a lot out of the game so they will have reasonable content for the long line of expansions that are soon to come out. I hate expansion packs, and I REALLY HATE how EA/Maxis release 10 freaking expansion packs for the Sims - at what $30 a pop. They're simply taking advantage of their customers expecting them to pay $300+ for the entire experience... It's just cheap, and it's a shame the same thing will happen to Spore.

It's a growing trend within the gaming business I guess. Look at GTA IV. its a great game but they left a lot out because Microsoft paid Rockstar/Take Two $50 million dollars for two exclusive expansion packs to be released via Xbox Live. GTA IV is great, but clearly very light on features. Spore seems very light on features IMO, therefor they are going the same rout - milking the consumer base dry.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21589.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21589.page GMT
All of the net is swarming with angry people, though, so maybe it will really make a difference this time.
[/quote]

I have submitted two reviews about the game to amazon.com, both were clean, non-angry sound (if that makes sense) and did not mention the DRM problem. However I did give it 1 star, and described the single profile issue, and mentioned that I bought the game.

But Amazon didn't post either review. I wonder how many other reviews they aren't posting...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21603.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21603.page GMT
We must keep pushing.

Knowing EA and their history they won't care but the more people we can educate about the restrictions of the game before buying the game the better.

There's no problem with people buying it if they know what the limitations are. It's their own choice then which is something we didn't have when we bought the game.

In times like these 50 Euros (or whatever the game cost anywhere else) is a LOT of money to many families, and it's not everyday we can still afford a new game. And to be screwed over by such a large game company like that, with something that hits mainly families with children is downright evil.

I made up my mind that Spore is my LAST EA game, until they change their entire policy. I'll still play all the games I have (30+ from EA, I counted them and was shocked!!!) cause I paid for them, I might as well play them. But no more new games, most importantly, no more Sims expansion packs...[/quote]

Yea talk about messed up. Yall will love this. A close buddy of mine got 2 copy's of spore right. And it just kept messing up. And they totally lied to him over the phone. And treated him like crap. So this past Monday he went to work. And got on the radio. (He works at a local radio station) and for the afternoon mix/talk show he took 10 min's away from the rush hour call in for a 10 min rant on spore. LOL he gave it to them. And he even took phone call's from people who played spore. And every one of them talked crap about it. And one caller said she was about to head over and get it. But soon as she heard him on the radio talking about the drama and the 3 install's and 1 account. she said she will buy something else LOL.

Now that's karma! EA got it handed to them. Because after the show he got email's from people. I think it was like 4,600+ fan's that all said screw ea and thanked him for warning them about not getting the game. So you see guy's. In the end you get what's coming to you!. EA treat's people like crap. And lie's. Well now they are paying for it. Spore was suppose to be the game that put them back on the map. But so far it's the game that is ending them. Karma is a bish... What you do in life always come's back to you in the end. And EA is gonna get served big time soon. I wouldn't doubt it if they went out of business cus no one ever bought any of there games anymore.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21618.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21618.page GMT
All of the net is swarming with angry people, though, so maybe it will really make a difference this time.
[/quote]

I have submitted two reviews about the game to amazon.com, both were clean, non-angry sound (if that makes sense) and did not mention the DRM problem. However I did give it 1 star, and described the single profile issue, and mentioned that I bought the game.

But Amazon didn't post either review. I wonder how many other reviews they aren't posting...[/quote]

I just looked, Amazon has apparently locked the reviews for Spore... No new reviews have been added since September 15, 2008

This is really bad for EA... I mean who in their right mind is going to buy an EA game with this much bad publicity. Even non-gamers are hearing that people are unhappy or pissed off - even if they don't quite understand the problem.

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All of the net is swarming with angry people, though, so maybe it will really make a difference this time.
[/quote]

I have submitted two reviews about the game to amazon.com, both were clean, non-angry sound (if that makes sense) and did not mention the DRM problem. However I did give it 1 star, and described the single profile issue, and mentioned that I bought the game.

But Amazon didn't post either review. I wonder how many other reviews they aren't posting...[/quote]

That is just freaking crazy. Why on earth would they delete reviews... In an attempt to raise the Spore rating. LOL good luck with that. My guess is EA might be giving Amazon something under the table, or just strait paying them to stop the negative reviews all together. Sounds like something EA would do - pay large humps of money to Amazon, and a huge line of lawyers, instead of using the money to make quality, profitable software.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21644.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21644.page GMT
Right now EA is standing there with their tail between their legs wondering what should they do. Will this go away? Will customers eventually accept this? Did we make a mistake here?

EA, pay attention and listen to your consumers - you screwed up.

You've been spanked by every gaming website out there
You've got a segment of your user-base in absolute outrage
It's so bad that Amazon.com has to lock or hold up on reviews
> And by the way you've got a major title coming down the pipe

Is the picture clear yet?

My advice to EA - make the right choice, apologize for not understanding how your efforts would impact customers, fix this, learn your lesson, and move on. - or stay your course and take a chance that you'll drive your company in to the ground....


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EA has to protect its brand name from who? Not the government, not yet at least. They are trying to protect themselves from their own consumer base. Only in gaming would you find such a travesty within corporate endeavors.

Yes - many of us have to get our thumbs stuck to console controllers. We have to build an empire by mouse clicking through hours of gameplay on a great PC game. We love to game, it's who we are.

And EA... They sit silent, ignore us, and hope we'll shut up and buy many expansion packs. No patch update yet! Not a single consistent remark to all of the consumers having problems. They are at war with their customers! How pathetic!

I'm done, my household is done... We are finished with EA, Spore, Sims, Madden, Mercenaries 2 - whatever, and every other game EA has a big money grabbing hands in.

How did your hostile takeover of Take Two end up EA??? Everyone is fed up with this crap. We love our games, but we hate you. And you fight against us, the last few who actually bought your crap product. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21811.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21811.page GMT
It´s just silly how you treat your paying customers!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21923.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21923.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21938.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/21938.page GMT
I would like to thank the people who posted while I was asleep and made this one of the first threads that they wrote in. Keep it up!

Well, it's day 10 for me and there is still no good response from EA, and I just got a generic reply to my e-mail question. Funny, though. I had just finished writing a very long response to that generic e-mail (and while I was writing this, too!), and I tried to post it. Apparently I had been on long enough so that I had to sign in again, but when I did, I also lost everything I had written. Maybe not EA's fault, but I still became even more upset.

I really hope that EA is just waiting to fix this at the same time the first major patch is released. I'm not holding my breath though.

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I got another response to my question from "Samuel S" a "Senior Representative".
They still claim they cannot activate 2 accounts on the same key, even though we had that poster say that's exactly what they got accomplished earlier in this topic.

I'm sick of this stupidity.
No more EA games will be bought by me until they do what is right.
I'd even accept them giving people who bought the Creature Creator 1 extra account key or something at this point.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22030.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22030.page GMT Never had to do that before.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22051.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22051.page GMT Never had to do that before.[/quote]

I posted my on the bbb web site, it's pretty limited in space (only 3000 chars or so). I posted my intended full complaint here (easy to find) http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/921.page but had to cut it down.

Basically I am arguing that EA decieved customers and they should update their software or offer refunds.


]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22091.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22091.page GMT
Also, I wouldn't be able settle for just one more account (yet). Either they gave us the same number accounts that were allowed in the CC, or I will continue this thread as long as Spore exists (and I'll never buy anything from them again).

Let's hope they do fix it.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22103.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22103.page GMT
Also, I wouldn't be able settle for just one more account (yet). Either they gave us the same number accounts that were allowed in the CC, or I will continue this thread as long as Spore exists (and I'll never buy anything from them again).

Let's hope they do fix it.[/quote]

One extra account doesn't really solve the problem - the game is about as useful as a baby wipe warmer...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22117.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22117.page GMT
But yea. They should [i]at least[/i] give us the same number of accounts per game as their silly install limit.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22133.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22133.page GMT
This is not a smooth operation EA. Where's the recall???? You are running out of time.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22175.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22175.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22176.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22176.page GMT
The news article can be found here:

[url]http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/09/16/spore-drm-update-ea-loosening-one-restriction/[/url]

All in good time people, all in good time...]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22179.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22179.page GMT
However this is not the case, nobody is allowed to have more than one single account per installation.[/quote]

That section in the manual was a misprint and will be corrected in future printings of the manual. There is one Spore registration/account per game/serial code so you are correct in that you cannot make multiple accounts at this time. I have sent your guys' feedback to the game team though since I can understand the desire to share a game on a system that you entire family uses.

~Violet[/quote]

I'd like a refund for my misprinted manual as part of my $80 galactic edition. How many other misprints are there?


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The news article can be found here:

[url]http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/09/16/spore-drm-update-ea-loosening-one-restriction/[/url]

All in good time people, all in good time...[/quote]

**** it's not in good time. Screw this stupid decision by EA. Apparently nobody wants to even play this game anymore - I don't. This is about the entire picture that this corporate slumhole portrays.

Start anew by cleaning portable crappers EA. Screw this, and hell with your crappy product, upon more crappy products.

My daughter loves Sims. She entitled herself to save money and buy Sims Pets for Wii, Sims Castaways for Wii, and My Sims for Wii. They are horrible games! Buzz off EA. You suck.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22197.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22197.page GMT
The news article can be found here:

[url]http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2008/09/16/spore-drm-update-ea-loosening-one-restriction/[/url]

All in good time people, all in good time...[/quote]

Very good article! Again EA beats around the bush and keep quiet at the real issues. So pathetic and so expected.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22205.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22205.page GMT
What that article says is that they didn't even respond to the bloggers questions about the single user problem. They didn't even respond. That's wrong EA. If you did it on purpose and you plan on fixing it, SAY SO! If you don't plan on fixing it, SAY SO, so that I can finally rest knowing that my new life's goal is to make sure you will never sell another game again.

By the way, thank you for the link locals. ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22212.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22212.page GMT
I've been around since the beginning. I kicked my brothers butt in the first Madden, the second Madden, and every other since.

I learned to read playing Enchanted Scepters on the first ever Mac. I went on to play Airborne, Blackjack, and whatever else. I've been playing games longer than your company has been alive. When I was young my dad would have Nibbles contests on Fridays. Do you know that MShell game? Hmmm? I do.

So you have taken simple game programing and turned many a products into ****. We will not stand for this. It's time for you to die, or pay us back. It seems you set the standard for horrible games.

I owned the Atari, Mac, PC, NES, Sega, SNES, Genesis, Playstation, N64, Dreamcast, PS2, Xbox, 360... I've received or bought hundreds of games. And I'll say EA games have always been the biggest disappointment... Except for NBA Live 97... Madden 04... and the early Maddens were great (really great). Other than that, pretty horrible.

Wherever you seek guidance, it's not a good place to venture anymore. Heints has the answers. And the answer is to release great games that are user friendly for any household to enjoy.

Now it's over EA. There's only one direction to move! And that direction is simple... Help us gamers live our little fantasy worlds without having to spend god **** days on YOUR ******* forum support page. Then we are told ignorant corporate BS, followed by SILENCE.

We are the people who keep you in business. And we can keep you out of business!

Laugh now if you must... Or save this.


EDIT: Did anyone else play Nibbles back in the early 90's? It was the snake game, where you tried to gobble up 1-9 without running into your tail. Anyway, it was good.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22256.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22256.page GMT Your complaint has been assigned case # 57128492.

i've also filed a complaint against EA on the BBB. I suggest others take similar measures and not drop this issue.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22417.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22417.page GMT I just now got a response to my response where I say I'm reporting them to the BBB.
Here's their reply:
[quote]Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts Customer Support.

Since you mentioned taking legal action, we can no longer assist you. Please direct future communications to legal@ea.com.

If you need additional assistance or have further questions please reply to this email or visit our self help knowledge base at http://support.ea.com

Thank you,
Samuel
Senior Representative
Electronic Arts Customer Support[/quote]
So they'd rather have another complaint filed against them instead of just doing the right thing?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22480.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22480.page GMT
They cowardly remain silent with no announcement as to when this will be resolved.

How much like EA. Do they really think people are going to buy multiple copies of Spore? Then we the consumers try to install multiple copies on one hard drive, only to find out a single account can be active.

Come on EA.

People have purchased multiple copies of Spore, installed, only to have one account per household.

I guess this is not the first forum of EA's work that's exploded with consumer complaints. EA must have strong experience dealing with pissed off customers. And they must enjoy remaining silent, waiting to throw out the next ***** game.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22497.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22497.page GMT I just now got a response to my response where I say I'm reporting them to the BBB.
Here's their reply:
[quote]Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts Customer Support.

Since you mentioned taking legal action, we can no longer assist you. Please direct future communications to legal@ea.com.

If you need additional assistance or have further questions please reply to this email or visit our self help knowledge base at http://support.ea.com

Thank you,
Samuel
Senior Representative
Electronic Arts Customer Support[/quote]
So they'd rather have another complaint filed against them instead of just doing the right thing?[/quote]

what email did you use to contact them?]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22538.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22538.page GMT

I wouldn't be surprised if this is in part due to all these issues surrounding the game & people bombarding them with complaints. They've probably been overloaded.



(found this from another thread)
Some BBB info/tidbits on EA, including (EA) contacts;
http://goldengate.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=99&bbb=1116&firm=64196
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22542.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22542.page GMT
BTW:
[quote]Thank you for using the Better Business Bureau's Online Complaint System.
Your complaint has been assigned case # 57126505.[/quote]

Didn't want to have to do it this way, but EA left me no choice.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22551.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22551.page GMT
BTW:
[quote]Thank you for using the Better Business Bureau's Online Complaint System.
Your complaint has been assigned case # 57126505.[/quote]

Didn't want to have to do it this way, but EA left me no choice.[/quote]

Yea I also filed one. Like I said I suggest people do the same.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22554.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22554.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22689.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22689.page GMT
my money is on them not responding at all.

as long as they can make money off the game they wont care at all about a few dozen people complaining. not when there's millions of others that can/will buy and play the game without complaining.

even if you were to go so far as to take them to court, chances are they would just have a few high paid lawyers put the case in arbitration until you back down, even if it took a few years.

its the sad truth of the fact that the world is run by greedy cooperations that will try to lie, cheat, and scam every dollar they can out of you no matter what the conditions are.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22749.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22749.page GMT
my money is on them not responding at all.[/quote]

Give me your money I just got another support reply with a link to this wonder FAQ link that answers all of our questions - or NOT

http://support.ea.com/cgi-bin/ea.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=20295
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Good work EA. Thinking short term is always the best way to go.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22783.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/22783.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23017.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23017.page GMT
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/2897.page

-MaxisLucky]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23153.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23153.page GMT
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/2897.page

-MaxisLucky[/quote]

As I said on the linked thread, I am so glad that our concerns have not fallen on deaf ears and that steps are being taken to remedy this situation. I feel that it is a reasonable compromise and my interest in the game has been renewed.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23452.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23452.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23457.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23457.page GMT

Cheers.
]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23550.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23550.page GMT
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-MaxisLucky[/quote]

Ok... I thought this was a repeat of the last response... Sorry. Big EDIT here.

Good job Maxis... Good job.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23722.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23722.page GMT
I do hope they will allow us to bring in previously made CC accounts as well as create the new ones.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23728.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23728.page GMT
And I'm very sorry Will is associated with EA... Sucks.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23752.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23752.page GMT
Again, thank you Maxislucky and everyone at Maxis. I won't be happy with EA for a while though.

Oh, and yes earthbounder64, I too would like to link old accounts made in the CC to my copy of spore.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23815.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23815.page GMT
Really like Will Wrights games.....but EA still sucks.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23982.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23982.page GMT
Really like Will Wrights games.....but EA still sucks.[/quote]

Yeah other than the money EA is nothing good for Wright. He's way better than them.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23992.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/23992.page GMT
Thank you guys, you've have made my night an awesome one. I CAN'T WAIT to play spore tomorrow!

- Locals]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/24194.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/24194.page GMT
I installed SPORE on a portable Hard Drive that i use for my job. I am a technichian at a Mac computer lab. I bought the game to help pass time a t my work9I work evenings---BORING). i love the game. However i was unaware of the limited install feature. Because the computers in the lab go back to a fresh install everytime you restart or shutdown, nothing is saved on the internal harddrive on the MAc. So i've had the ganme since Tuesday, and since then everytime i -play it asks fort a registration number. I<ve entered it twice already and am scared to enter it again for the fact my game might not work again. NOTE: i always enter the same login name because i need only one account.

WILL MY GAME STOP WORKING IF IT KEEPS ASKING ME FOR MY SERIAL EVERYTIME I PLAY? If you can help or advise i will be very greatful. Need to know soon or i won't install it again and never play again and that SUCKS ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/24492.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/24492.page GMT
I would say call EA to check with them, and while you're at it, give them an earful for how they make paying consumers suffer while piracy rages on.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/24633.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/24633.page GMT
it can only be installed 3 times per disc. the real question is where does spore keep installed information. if your computers at work as mine at school reset you should be ok as long as spore stores it on the disc. if not 2 things you can do, put it on another computer or drive or - the one i would do - copy the data to the work computer format the drive and put it back on the drive. the only problem that could occur now would be if when it checks or a proper activation code and connects to ea the info about the drive is sent to the server which is very unlikely]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/25552.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/25552.page GMT ]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33157.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33157.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33215.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33215.page GMT
My husband and I each have our own laptops. I do understand that we can install the game on both machines. What I'm curious about is if we could both play the game at the same time on two different accounts after the install from the one disc. I'm used to this answer being "no" from other games, I'm not hunting for something to be -angry- about. On the contrary, if we can't do this we go back to life as usual, and if we can we'll be really excited!]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33307.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33307.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33801.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/33801.page GMT http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/90/2897.page
Thank you.]]> http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/34604.page http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/preList/103/34604.page GMT