Should Maxis make Science Spore?

So people don't need to buy Spore first to get a good game when expanded?

On the other hand, it would cost me more money, since I own the original game.

They would not give me a return to get that new game instead...

And if it's an expansion... I would have to pay for it too...

Thanks to Spode, piracy is an option...

theultimateend wrote:

Jackuul wrote:

RocketGirl wrote:I'd give a left bodypart to hear the reaction to this thread at Maxis...

Chris: Pffft, ignore it.

Will: But...

Chris: I said ignore it!

So true.

Hecker deserves a kick in the nuts.

Ooh, I see a new poll in the making!

RandomEmp: They're still complaining about it being too cute...

Chris: I don't care.

RandomEmp: They say you really made a mistake.

Chris: Wait until the expansions.

RandomEmp: They brought up your past talks, encouraging piracy...

Chris: I... Well... You see...

*Silence*

Chris: You're Fired.

RandomEmp: <sadface>

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Will: This is cool!

Hecker: Yuck!

Will: but it looks like a real petri disk.

Hecker: That's why I said 'Yuck", people want cute and I'm the "cute" team lead.

Will: I think sciencey stuff is cool.

Hecker: In my vast amount of game content history I can categorically claim that cute is more important than science. People want bland game play where everybody wins no matter what they do.

Will: but I like science......

Hecker: Go stand in the corner, you don't know anything about games. Did I mention that I'm on the board of GDC? Do you know how important that is?

Will:: but you never really shipped a game, right?

Hecker: I have written a lot of articles about it, more than YOU and EA wants a cute game that appeals to four year olds.

Will: but my four year old doesn't like what you describe.

Hecker:*sigh* ok, you are forcing me to tell you that EA wants to kill the game Spore but make as much money as possible when it comes out.

Will: What?

Hecker: Fire anyone with any brains

Will: Like who?

Hecker: Everyone except me. I will kill the animation system and make the game look cute and remove any reasonable gameplay, okay? Don't make me call EA execs.

What are we at, now...slightly better than 12 to 1? And some pretty rockin' comedy to go with it?

C'mon, Maxis! Get with the program, here! The people have spoken, and we want Science Spore!
Now, if Will Wright was as for SP as it appears, and against CP, I'd like to offer my support for the revolution against the Cutists in favor of the Scientists. Who'z with me? Viva la revolution!

Chant it with me now: Wright was right! Scientists unite!
Wright was right! Scientists unite!
Wright was right! Scientists unite!
Wright was...!

Ahhhhh!

Wright said, “and the ironic thing is that, if anything, we’re teaching intelligent design. I’ve seen a few games that relied on evolution — I’ve even designed some of them — and it’s just not as fun.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/magazine/08games.html?_r=1&pagewanted=4&oref=slogin

AnotherPoster wrote:Ahhhhh!

Wright said, “and the ironic thing is that, if anything, we’re teaching intelligent design. I’ve seen a few games that relied on evolution — I’ve even designed some of them — and it’s just not as fun.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/magazine/08games.html?_r=1&pagewanted=4&oref=slogin

Well they also failed at making this intelligent design part fun

But who am I right, I didn't spend 5 years at Fun college.

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Will: Look at this cool evolution game I made!

Hecker: It's not fun.

Will: What?!

Hecker: It's all yucky science stuff. Eeeewwww.

Will: I thought it was fun.

Hecker: Its not nearly cute enough. Look, you go work on the editors and I'll work on a cute gameplay system based on intelligent design. Oh, by the way, for the animation system, I couldn't get your linked, rigid bodies, constrained based system to work. You know, the one that you showed in the GDC 2005 demo? I just used a particle IK based system instead, I hope you don't mind.

Wright said, “and the ironic thing is that, if anything, we’re teaching intelligent design. I’ve seen a few games that relied on evolution — I’ve even designed some of them — and it’s just not as fun.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/08/magazine/08games.html?_r=1&pagewanted=4&oref=slogin

Well, you know...I think it would be fun.
I mean, okay, it'd be fun if you still got to design your creature still, but if the rest of the galaxy were subject to natural selection, and if even your creature were subject to a kind of natural selection in which you had to design your creature to cope with al the pressures of food gathering and predators and such, but HOW you innovate to prosper in your environment is totally up to you.

I think a game like that would kick some serious SPORE. It's what 2005 Spore--Science Spore--seemed to be attempting to do; that's the game I wanted to play!

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RocketGirl wrote:This horse isn't dead until Maxis kills it...

I dont think MAXIS is going to be the one to kill it!.

EA certainly beat it up enough, its almost dead. But I have hope.

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The poll is pretty straightforward and everyday there are new microbe's joining and saying the exact same things.
Its clearly something that bothers a lot of people.

I think a lot of people bought the game, thinking that the negative people are some weird twist on fanboyism.
Then they realise that what we have been shouting all along is in fact true.
Untill I get a clear cut answer you can expect me to keep bugging you Maxis/EA.

You would expect nothing less from us.

erm.... BUMP!! they should see this

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I find this whole topic to be interesting but quite funny, Yes a lot of people think they would like science spore as you name it but I prefer to enjoy playing not sit back and watch as a load of "scientific rules" dictate everything. So much depends on the balance.., I've played with scientific experiments where people created creatures and let them loose in an imaginary world. Once your creature was created all you had was something where you recieved reports about. X creature caught and ate Y. X creature mated with Y and Z was the result (oh Z died after being attacked and eaten 5 minutes after birth). It's already been explained that they had a system with speed in .1 increments. It meant that sometimes you had to chase after something for ages to battle them without really noticing that you wouldn't catch them. Is that fun ?

I've said it before but are people really saying cute and science are mutually exclusive ?

Spore gaming complexity can and should be improved. More science could be incorporated but pure science and gaming don't really work together well.

Let the flaming commence as I realise that most people who disagree don't actually participate in topics like this really making the poll pointless.

Thats not true, hehe, every poll is pointless.

But the number doesn't lie either, don't forget its just a slice of time and space. Nothing more.

Science and cute are not mutually exclusive.

Science Spore is also a bad way to name the game.
Science Spore has become the popular term to adress the missing behavioural code, form follows function, the micro/macro management. Its not so much about watching bacteria in a petri dish gameplay.

Its the shift from a 1st person, to a true 3rd person God experience. What we have now is a 1st person perspective on Spore. There is not a single moment where you feel you are your empire. Hard to explain, I admit.

can't really trust this poll since probably a lot only voting for it cause there mad at spore.