sredni wrote: Has a game EULA ever actually survived in a court? I don't think they're very binding when nobody in the history of gaming has ever actually read one while the gaming companies are fully aware that nobody does and thusly have put any and every ridiculous notion that takes their little heads into them.

They technically can't since you can't read them until after you bought the game. Legally, you should be able to read them before paying money. Otherwise you're paying a fee without seeing the terms of the contract.

tyger42 wrote:

Actually, it's pretty standard IP law that the owner of said IP can revoke the license to use it at any time. And about the "sight unseen" part, When *I* installed Spore the EULA popped up at the very beginning of the install process...

A license to use IP can only be revoked if there is a term of the licensing agreement that allows for that revocation. In business, this is almost never the case, as few companies would be willing to invest in IP they could simply lose. Similarly, an author licenses a publishing company to use their IP, the book, but this is virtually never revocable. Probably the clearest example, if an executive from Universal Studios turned up on your doorstep and said he was here to "revoke the license" to the DVDs you bought last month... well, I don't think he'd be leaving with any DVDs now would he?

When you installed Spore the EULA popped up. After you had already paid for the game. So in terms of straight contract law, the EULA cannot have formed part of the contract as the transaction was already complete as soon as you paid your money and left the game store. As I mentioned earlier, some jurisdictions have interpreted software terms of service into the contract, but it is a stretch, and its not a stretch every jurisdiction has been willing to make.

If you hate the game so much why don't you quit?

Gregory1 wrote:If you hate the game so much why don't you quit?

-Censored...
'Cause you touch yourself at night
-[/Censor]
I'm sorry i had to.

Mokinokaro wrote:

sredni wrote: Has a game EULA ever actually survived in a court? I don't think they're very binding when nobody in the history of gaming has ever actually read one while the gaming companies are fully aware that nobody does and thusly have put any and every ridiculous notion that takes their little heads into them.

They technically can't since you can't read them until after you bought the game. Legally, you should be able to read them before paying money. Otherwise you're paying a fee without seeing the terms of the contract.

In my opinion, according to the contract, once you open the game, its yours, yet you are agreeing to said contract blindly in my humble opinion. Catch 22? perhaps..

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The First Amendment wrote:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

If Congess can't do it, nobody can.

Yay! More evidence of the EA dictatorship! As a citizen of the United States of America, I am entitled to the right of freedom of speech, religion, media, and so on. Other than than words generally accepted to be vulgarities, I think that EA is playing God-Mode with the censorship on this forum. Islamic people can't even say the name of their God. Why? I don't know. Probably because EA thinks we'll think of terrorists.

If I get banned for this, I don't know what kind of message this will send to the Spore community.

I'm sorry to bring up this old thread again, but....

sporemasterladym wrote:
I've spent the last few hours here trying to reassure everyone that it's okay. I can understand if you doubt me but that's okay too. Soon you'll be eating cookies out of my hand.

Ahem...

For those who are too lazy to click the link:

Your forum account will be directly tied to your Master EA Account, so if we ban you on the forums, you would be banned from the game as well since the login process is the same. And you'd actually be banned from your other EA games as well since its all tied to your account. So if you have SPORE and Red Alert 3 and you get yourself banned on our forums or in-game, well, your SPORE account would be banned to

Again, there is no point in grabbing the torches and assuming the worst.

Remind me again, why shouldn't people assume the worst.

MaxisLucy stated in another thread that the forum account and game account are not linked for purposes of banning.

And other EA reps have stated that they are, not just for Spore, but for *all* EA games. Who to believe?

This is the second time we see the claim that they are in fact linked. Odd that it pops up again, from a different EA representative, don't you think?

Jalf_ wrote:And other EA reps have stated that they are, not just for Spore, but for *all* EA games. Who to believe?

This is the second time we see the claim that they are in fact linked. Odd that it pops up again, from a different EA representative, don't you think?

Agreed :/