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We all know Spore has space-faring empires usually only a couple of systems away from your home planet, but how far away do you think we will have to travel until we find intelligent life forms?

This also depends on your idea of intelligent life wether with some form of brain (you don't know how anything will work out there) or with the ability to make communities.

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Spore is as unscientific as a toddler teaching nuclear physics.

Truthfully, probably only between 0.1% and 0.3% of planets have advanced life like us, and probably closer to 0.01% have interstellar travel.

Those with intergalactic drive...maybe 0.0005%.

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And wormhole drive? Yeah I didn't think so either.

But it is a wonder how far we'll have to go before we find intelligent life. It's just a shame that everything on Spore is inside the box, it uses elements from species from this planet...the only thing that is vaguely different are cells if you remove the eyes, spikes and wings, I haven't really seen any species that emits poison or at least in the way done in Spore nor a species that manages something similar to a jetski in water propulsion.

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Miralynn wrote:Spore is as unscientific as a toddler teaching nuclear physics.

Truthfully, probably only between 0.1% and 0.3% of planets have advanced life like us, and probably closer to 0.01% have interstellar travel.

Those with intergalactic drive...maybe 0.0005%.


Those estimations may even be quite generous.

Honestly, we're not sure. We've yet to directly observe a planet outside our solar system with enough resolution to infer anything other than its mass and orbital distance. We have no chemical composition data or atmospheric data. Earth may be a 1/100 planet or a 1/1,000,000,000,000 planet (or likely somewhere in between).

Then you must account for the odds of intelligence developing, which seem to be totally arbitrary. Millions of species have come and gone without evolving higher intelligence, it may have been a fluke. It may also be inevitable. Once an intelligent species arises it's unlikely to go extinct.

But there are a few things we can be fairly certain of:

The star must have a high metallicity
The star must be several billion years old
The star must be large enough to properly warm its planets
The star must be stable enough to not sear its planets with random energy bursts

The star probably needs to be single (not binary) as well, gravitational perturbations in a binary system tend to eject planets from orbit.

So that leaves you with moderately small to medium size main phase population I stars not in binary or ternary systems. Fortunately, there are many of these. Unfortunately, there aren't many in our immediate vicinity.

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If they are truly intelligent then they will not let us find them.

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ReggytheCreator wrote:If they are truly intelligent then they will not let us find them.
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ReggytheCreator wrote:If they are truly intelligent then they will not let us find them. In all seriousness I dont find it too hard to believe that we will make contact sooner or later. after all. if we ever develop the means to travel between star systems then its a sure thing that their will be species that have done it before us. and they will would probobly have set up colonys


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CosmosExplorer wrote:We all know Spore has space-faring empires usually only a couple of systems away from your home planet, but how far away do you think we will have to travel until we find intelligent life forms?

This also depends on your idea of intelligent life wether with some form of brain (you don't know how anything will work out there) or with the ability to make communities.


It may take a while. Despite the fact that life in general can adapt to nearly any environment on a planet, and advanced life (i.e. akin to rabbits and grass) adapt to most environments, the development of a sapient species such as us is determined primarily by chance, and even the closest star to our solar system (proxima centauri) is about four light years away, and one light year is about six trillion miles.

However, space, as the introduction to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is." Take that in to account, and there could be a countless number of alien civilizations in our universe. However, a lot of the universe is invisible even the most powerful telescopes. The portion we can see probably contains only a few hundred million civilizations.

So, to answer your question, a long way. The shortest trip to the nearest alien civilization will probably take longer than ten human lifetimes by the fastest manned spacecraft. Until we invent a warp drive, we will be unable to meet our closest galactic neighbors in person.

If you're willing to travel across the galaxy, here's my advice: bring a magnetic shield that blocks radiation and micrometeorites, a babel fish or two to help with communication, and a few snacks.
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Nine thousand and fifty-two stars exactly.

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gaiaman360 wrote:the introduction to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy says, "is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is."


Well that just reminded me of something, if we do gain mass space transit some day...think about losing your spacecar keys!

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Life could be anywhere.

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How are we supposed to know when we haven't found a star with life yet?

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Zero.

Humans, billions of them. 'Ucky.

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At what point did we change from intelligent (in opinion) life to life in total?

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