The whole point I was making Parvati is that EA/Maxis misrepresented Spore and as a result a lot of people are annoyed and frustrated. You see it on this board and elsewhere. People resent not being told the game wasn't as shown. So just to restate as you appear not to realise what I initially said...

Maxis/EA made two main mistakes with Spore...

1) DRM
2) Mismanaged people's expectations.

I agree with the fact that, in this case (contrary to the usual cliché "No news is good news), some sort of drop of news, be it good or bad, from Maxis and/or EA, would be nice. I think I played Spore for about three weeks and then stopped. I switched out for Dungeon Siege 2: Broken World...playing the single player. Spore had become, to me, a game of constant repetition. Colonize, Save Planets, Prevent War, Start War, etc., etc...
In fact, my hard drive has limited space, and to make room for other things, I uninstalled Spore.

Please, remember this is coming from a guy who has played several games both on console and PC, many of the games reaching 200+ hours. In fact, at this very moment, I'm starting up two games (yes, two console games...switch back and forth when I want a break from one).
Tales of Symphonia: 198 hours
Grandia Xtreme: 213 hours

All in all, I'm saying that Spore has potential, but the fact that an avid gamer dropped it in less than a month says something...I hope.

I eagerly await some sort of news, be it good or bad. I just want to know if anything is going to be fixed, or if I wasted 60+ bucks.

Eekwotsthat wrote:The whole point I was making Parvati is that EA/Maxis misrepresented Spore and as a result a lot of people are annoyed and frustrated. You see it on this board and elsewhere. People resent not being told the game wasn't as shown. So just to restate as you appear not to realise what I initially said...

Maxis/EA made two main mistakes with Spore...

1) DRM
2) Mismanaged people's expectations.

Ah my bad, I must have misunderstood your intentions
I seem to have misunderstood what you were trying to say, excuse me.
Hope we are cool, cause it wasn't my intention to start an arguement over it.

No problem, just wanted to clarify. Whilst I enjoy Spore I would have loved what everyone thinks they were promised more.

Eekwotsthat wrote:No problem, just wanted to clarify. Whilst I enjoy Spore I would have loved what everyone thinks they were promised more.

Well yea, me too.
As you would have noticed.

But its not so much what we think we were promised.
Will did promise a Sim everything.
Spore is many but not a Sim everything. But its not worth to keep bringing it up.
I'm only interested in finding common ground with the new and the old.
I would be lieing if i said I don't care about Spore.

I guess we all formed opinions from looking at different sources of information.

Personally for me, Spore is what I expected. A cute creature maker with mini games to use the creatures. That is how I read the information given on the Spore website and other sources the last 6 months.

I nearly did not buy Spore because I thought it was for kids and would not appeal to me. I did not bother with the creature creator but when Spore was released curiosity got the better of me - and honestly it was more fun for a while then I was expecting - though I am bored with it now and can only see some added game play elements in the form of an expansion to keep my interest up. Certainly not a parts pack- hehe

I personally cannot complain though - I got what I expected including knowledge of the 3 activations in the DRM. Though securom itself does not bother me, I will state - unless there is some kind of deauthorisation tool released I would not buy a game with limited activations again so I am interested in feedback on their intentions with the activations. If they apply to expansions and base game it sounds like a nightmare keeping track of them and I really cannot be bothered with that hassle.

ausdreamer wrote:I guess we all formed opinions from looking at different sources of information.

Personally for me, Spore is what I expected. A cute creature maker with mini games to use the creatures. That is how I read the information given on the Spore website and other sources the last 6 months.

Yeap, thats the only defence I can think for their side.
The last 6 months before the release they started showing up to date info.
But no mather.

111uminate I want to have your babies.

Great posts, keep it up.

A new day and most likely brand new posts from Rocket saying the same thing, over and over again.

My aren't we all excited?

I am, but i'm not going to participate anymore.

It appears I am giving the impresion I don't like the game or that I enjoy to bash people, wich i don't.

So the best of luck with whatever is going on here.

ausdreamer wrote:I guess we all formed opinions from looking at different sources of information.

Well, I was looking primarily at the videos and demos made by Will Wright...and even as recently as 2007, he was still spouting the line that he had created Spore as a kind of Montessori toy, to give people room to experiment with lots of failure space.

...but by then, the look of the game had already solidified into what we see today, and looking back on it, so had the gameplay. But in the demos, there was no indication that anything had changed this substantially; Spoor was still demo'ed as if it were this amazing SimEverything game.

And that's to say nothing of the hype in the month before Spore's release; to hear the Maxis folks tell it in this vids, Spore is the best game evar.

I don't know which information you were watching, but nothing I saw showed that Spore had been so dramatically changed.

Personally for me, Spore is what I expected. A cute creature maker with mini games to use the creatures. That is how I read the information given on the Spore website and other sources the last 6 months.

Well, that's the difference.

Go back and do a little research, watch the vids from 2005 to now. Try to put yourself in the place of someone who STARTED on the 2005 demo and then went from there.

While we're talking about 2005...who here signed up for the Spore mailing list as soon as it was made available, like I did? Does anyone else think it would have been nice of them to send us an e-mail with the title "Come see how we've butchered Spore!" when they started with the whole cutesy, form != function thing? I feel like taking the game in a 180 from the direction that hooked most of us so early on is definitely the kind of thing you want to let people know about.

Well, maybe it's not the kind of thing you want to let people know about...

RocketGirl wrote:

Go back and do a little research, watch the vids from 2005 to now. Try to put yourself in the place of someone who STARTED on the 2005 demo and then went from there.

I know i was going to bud out, but I had to quote this.
This explains perfectly why I reacted the way I did.

Now, i'm really out of this convo, am going to read it though

What about all this don't you get? This is NOT 2005. Again we get that you feel that EA/Maxis/Wright misled you. God only knows WE GET IT. But guess what, it's done. It's past. Give it a rest already.

You all keep pointing out the same things over and over and over again. You just keep coming up with different ways of saying it.

Sadly Maxis has forgot what customer service means since joining up with EA.

I doubt anyone is going to get anymore then a canned answer to anything and this includes the questions submited to Maxis.

At some point in time EA/MAXIS is banking on the boards calming down and most everyone that is unhappy will simply go away. This is the way EA has done things for years now and sadly Maxis is taking a page from the play book. The bottom line any anwer they give is going to make some happy and others more unhappy Maxis is in a position that they can't win no matter what they do. I would be shocked if we get answers with real substence on the boards and also to the quetsions submited, some PR person will be coming up with feel food responses.

Spore is what it is and I don't see it getting any better no matter how many expansion packs they put out the base game wont change enough to make the "science" crowd happy. Sadly the only reason I purchased Spore was because Maxis, I wont buy a product from EA and have not done so in a long time. Looks like Maxis is now on that list.

Will sold out, its as simple as that. The game is not even close to what it was marketed as. However, dont think for a second this wont be a sucsessful game for them plus they will make a ton on all the little packs and expansions that will come out for Spore over the years.

Igbe

Cysgodi wrote:What about all this don't you get? This is NOT 2005.

No, it isn't.

The part you don't seem to get is that THAT'S THE STINKING PROBLEM.

The Spore shown in 2005, the Spore talked about in 2005, was a much, much better, more interesting game than what we got in 2008.
And as recently as 2007, there was nothing--NOTHING--to indicate that the direction of Spore had changed so radically. And the fact is that people still want to play the game that was talked up in 2005.

We've made it known, and the response is a resounding silence from EA and Maxis.

Well, I for one am going to keep at them UNTIL there's a response, one way or the other.

You don't like that; I get it. SO STOP COMING IN THIS THREAD TO HARASS US ABOUT IT!
Seriously, how hard is that? Just stop clicking on this thread! Ignore it! You don't have to have anything to do with it! Whatinhell is WRONG with you? *boggle*

You all keep pointing out the same things over and over and over again. You just keep coming up with different ways of saying it.

So do you. Only...what you have to say isn't constructive, it amounts to little more than "Shut up, shut up, shut up!"
Guess what...Not Gonna Happen™. I want and answer and I'm gonna GET an answer one way or the other; if you don't like it, well, tough, because stronger people than you have tried to shut me up and they've all failed. You aren't going to succeed where they failed.
Now, there's a whole forum out there for you to peruse, you don't have to be in this thread; I can only assume that you ARE because you get your sick jollies out of harassing other people whose opinions you happen to not like. What are you, twelve?
If you don't have anything constructive to say on the topic, GET OUT. You're not helping, you're just trolling.

This is my last word on the subject unless you change your tune.