So I have writen extensively about my dspleasure about this failure of a game , sandbox whatever you want to call it and so have many others.


I think its safe too say that the Majority feels ripped off and wronged over SPORE .

But what Really makes me wonder is what EA thinks .....

I want their stance on the game and what they see and hear and what they intend to do about it now.....

What I mean is this

I want a release from them posted HERE on their forum to US the customer addressing a List of issues we have pointed out and what they intend to do about it .

HERE is why its important to me they do this

1 it will make their intensions clear and they will be liable for them . If they promise to fix it for free they have too

2 If they say this is the game we paid for and only intend to fix bugs in patches and everything else is going to be added in EP then we know and can uninstall our games and be Done with it.

Also I want over everything else just to be acknowledged . I dont care if they are telling me to get lost or that they understand. I just want to get their offical reponse to the community who paid for this sliver of entertainment .


3) I want to know what they intend to add to the game for free in patchs and a list of things they intend for expansions even just bascis

like are - the Flora editors going to be something we have to pay for
are the issues of depth and Micromanagment going to be addressed

so on and So forth


I just want their reply to US in general. We can theroize what went wrong all we want but I want to hear what they think.

I just want to know how they see spore . Cause if I do hear a reply from them in general saying they are proud of spore then Im washing my hand of this game and the company behind it and I dont think Ill be alone .

If anyone can stand behind this game and say they are proud of what they achieved they need to find a new line of work or wake up tommorrow play spore like they are a gamer and not a programmer Play till your eyes bleed and your wrist hurts.

Play it and see what you can really do with the game and then give your head a smack .

I think If I was a programmer on this project and I was out on a job interview somewhere else and they asked me what I did before I would tell them Im was telemarketer before admitting my name was stamped on this game somewhere . you Might get a better chance at the job.

So basically, you want the company that made the game to come to the forums and say, "Gee, guess what everyone, our game sucks, only YOU can make it better!"

That sounds like the worst PR move ever. While some people don't like the game, a lot of people do. There are already numerous posts detailing what people think is wrong with the game and what people would like to see added. Maxis people and forum mods have already stated that they are looking at our suggestions and working on things. If employees popped over to the forums and told everyone that their game was horrible, then I have feeling perspective buyers lurking here would drop like flies.

And the really silly thing is, if they say, "We think we did a decent job making this game that we spent a lot of time on," then you're just going to throw it away. That's really going to make them want to do it even more.

Also, EA/Maxis did not promise you that anything would be in the game. They showed demos of an in-development game. Any in-development game is subject to change without notification.

Furthermore I have an issue with this:

ashloc wrote:

I think its safe too say that the Majority feels ripped off and wronged over SPORE .

Wrong. It's dangerous. When you make assumptions like this, it only shows how much of a solipsist you are.

I wouldn't mind seeing a representative of Maxis posting a list of known issues that are going to be fixed in the near future. Its not like they don't have a list, we all know they do, they might even have a bunch fixed for next patch. A little sharing would make us feel better! Or even a rep coming in to certain posts and leaving a comment about it being a known issue and they are looking at it for a fix without giving specifics.

Probably they are afraid to show a presence here because they are afraid of getting mobbed by people carrying pitchforks and torches. If you respond to a few, people think it automatically means your ignoring all the ones that you aren't responding to, so therefore its better to let the patches speak for themselves.

I personally actually felt bad this afternooon for posting a snarky poll in the general discussion area because of my current frustrations with the web Sporepedia. Got a direct response in the thread from a web developer, and it definately made me feel better, and well, embarrased for being snarky. (Plus, I bet I got added to the never ever EVER feature this crazy person list!)

Anyhow.. Im digressing.. A list would be nice! =)

oneblackbird wrote:

ashloc wrote:

I think its safe too say that the Majority feels ripped off and wronged over SPORE .

Wrong. It's dangerous. When you make assumptions like this, it only shows how much of a solipsist you are.

Well look at my siggy and you'll have some statistical data to support their theory.

theultimateend wrote:

Well look at my siggy and you'll have some statistical data to support their theory.

That's only Xfire users, which really can't be an extraordinary number when we're talking about a game supposedly designed for everyone. It's also only a representation of time played. It's only natural for that time to decrease as it's unlikely that most people are still doing "I-just-got-the-game-marathons."

Well to the post Directed at me as being a solipsist

I fail to see how Im Showing egoistic self-absorption by requesting this .

What we were shown in demos and what we were given are worlds apart and EA knowingly and willfully made no effort to inform potential customers awaiting the game that features and things displayed where not going to be there ( to my knowledge)

This is under any reasonable judgement bordng if not complete false advertising and could be subject to legal action if someone wanted to get a class action going they could .

Honestly I dont expect it.

If you disagree with me thats fine but dont insult me by calling me names no matter how fancy a word you use to wrap it in .

I wouldnt do it to you

Enjoy SPORE

ashloc wrote:Well to the post Directed at me as being a solipsist

I fail to see how Im Showing egoistic self-absorption by requesting this

Look at what I quoted in my post acting as a rebuttal to your original post.
By assuming that the majority hates the game as much as you, you project yourself onto the rest of the players.

I did no such thing.

I wrote a Post based off my personal feelings and the overall feelings of others.

I guess you would prefure if I sited Quotes from every Post with similar POV.

You want to take that kinda time to show the lovers of SPORE I might take the time to do the same with those that are in my boat.

I said A majority feel ripped off over Spore and Wronged and I stand by that statement . If you would like to refute that your welcome too but again dont insult me .

ashloc wrote:I did no such thing.

I wrote a Post based off my personal feelings and the overall feelings of others.

I guess you would prefure if I sited Quotes from every Post with similar POV.

You want to take that kinda time to show the lovers of SPORE I might take the time to do the same with those that are in my boat.

I said A majority feel ripped off over Spore and Wronged and I stand by that statement . If you would like to refute that your welcome too but again dont insult me .

I don't want you to cite posts from people claiming they dislike the game or feel ripped off. I simply don't want to see people making the assumption that "a majority" hates the game. Too many posts open with "The majority of players feel ripped off" or "I know I hate this game and most people agree with me." Unless you have access to statistical data indicating this or some sort of poll that was filled out by all the people who bought the game, then one or two forums are a terrible representation of overall user satisfaction. However, neither of us has access to these sorts of things and so neither of us can state one way or the other who the actual majority is. Now, I am done. I don't want to argue with you because you seem like the sort to get very set in his ways and every time I attempt to refute things with these sort of people, I end up going nowhere.

I can agree to disagree with you ..... that seems fair.

One known thing is that they will be working on graphical/sound issues the last patch caused. A guy from Maxis gathered people's data to recreate the bug so... that definitely means they are/will be working on a fix. They're not deaf, and the SporeMasters also work to relay feedback to Maxis. I haven't doubted in that even for a moment till now and neither should you.

Let them do their job instead of reassuring people that they're not slacking off in Jamaica while you're suffering from the bugs.

Cheers.

If Maxis is ready to comment, they will comment.

azrupl wrote:One known thing is that they will be working on graphical/sound issues the last patch caused. A guy from Maxis gathered people's data to recreate the bug so... that definitely means they are/will be working on a fix. They're not deaf, and the SporeMasters also work to relay feedback to Maxis. I haven't doubted in that even for a moment till now and neither should you.

Let them do their job instead of reassuring people that they're not slacking off in Jamaica while you're suffering from the bugs.

Cheers.

My faith took a hit with the insistence that we use EADM only to download the patch, bad effects of the patch and a five day period of silence, intimations accounts would be shut off for complaining, all of the forum post deletions and lockings, and so on.

It's going to take a while before I trust any Maxis/EA personnel just because they ask me to.

bump

from what i've seen with WoW, dev's don't spend a lot of time on the forums. they're either too busy working on the upcoming fixes, or counting their giant stacks of money.