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Do you approve?
Yes, fully. 28% [ 12 ]
Yes, somewhat. 37% [ 16 ]
undecided/neutral 7% [ 3 ]
No, somewhat 14% [ 6 ]
No, completely 14% [ 6 ]
Total Votes : 43
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Aravan99


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The idea behind diplo dervish is to grat spore new interaction and thinking options. Its also to provide players with new kind of part features.

somewhat = 1 point
fully = 2 points.
Each star = +3 pts.

Step1: New creature features

(1) 2 new creature elements.

Patriot - This has the focus of Defense in his potentials. many of the special powers this has thru the stages reflect that. For example, mouths that combind good social with above average attacks capable of eating fruit and eggs.

To achieve: its a balance between omnivore and herbivore.


Mauler - These are the reverse of the Patriots. They solely dwell on battle more than even the predator. For example, thers NO social advantages with them, further, they can ONLY eat meat, not eggs.

To achieve: its the cross between carnivore and omnivore.


(2) 5 new job options

Dragoon - These forces are a strong offensive powerhouse. Their belief focus is that of power. Only the strong, intelligent, or very agressive players should have the right to live. Special technology is crusher missle which can destroy any ship in 1 hit.


Mercenary - These are somewhat akin to the prosperity forces, but on a more neutral tone. They are the most neutral group in existance, only caring about their own survival. Their special is Assimulator node. This means that they may use any technology that exists in the ships allied with their main ship.


Guardian - This is a strong defensive group that serves to protect others. Their belief focus is compassion. They almost always easily allied themselevs with the weak, undeveloped nations, but they hate any nation that achieves too much strength. Special technology is wave unit which can either repulse or attract enemy ships.


Tactician - Somewhat like the scientist, but focusses solely on battle fundamentals. His great desire is to learn every battle fundamental in existance, choosing missions that help to further his understanding of combat. Special technology is raid modules. This will steal the systems of the enemy ships.


Logistician - Logistics or exploration, but not to be confused with the explore option. This person seeks to travel and explore. His ultimate goal is to seek and find all the artefacts and rare areas throughout the galaxy. Special technology is celestial sensors which lets him see which planet systems have special treasures, and the locations of other ships.

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warmslime


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So these are archetypes for creatures right? Very neat idea, it hadn't crossed my mind. It's boring classifying them only by eating habits.

Aravan99


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I know, but thers much more to this. It will be a large discussion. I will post my comments, and when these have been discussed, I will head to the next phase of this upgrade idea.

Yet to come:

new creature adaptations
new diplomatic options

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Aravan99


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New creature elements:

New misc options:

Burrowing - This would give a new form of travel to creatures. At lv5, they could dig thru just about any kind of hill or mountain, reguardless the composition of the rocks it would posess. Just imagine moles, for example!


Ramming - A way to shake fruits out of a tree. Higher levels would make more fruit fall from larger trees. At lv5, even the fruits of the biggest trees would easily fall down.


Habitating - Some animals like stealing nests. This would give you the option to change your home nest to any species you would make extinct. However, this feature has no levels to it.


New social options:

Whine - If your species lacks certain social skills, this one can work as an alternative. Its not very reliable, but more intelligent animals will be more likely to understand what you are getting at. Its good for creatures with low social values that intend to do a lot of conversions.


Taunt - A dangerous social skill to use. Monsters with strong offensive values are likely to turn enemy. However, weaker or more social animals may be incited to convert to your side with this. It can be a very useful social skill to have dependant on what you face.


Specialty - This social skill does a unique move dependant on the choice you did in the first stage. If no stage exists, I would ignore it. Its basicly super effective against creatures of the same dietary style as the pertaining creature.


New battle options:

Latch - Found on varying hands. You would grab onto another creature. The higher the level, the harder it would be for the creature to break free of latch. Good for mounting a dangerous offensive strike on some monsters. However, each attack from either side has a chance to release this, equal to 1:level odds.


Note: If a latched creature is on the rampage creature.... That should do a HUGE amount of damage (like 90 or so). Further, if a latched creature is thrown direcly into a rampaging creature... that IS death, guaranteed.

Sling - A tail attack. Not very strong, but may catch a creature off guard, disrupting an attack or 2. Faster than other kinds of attacks. This move can be a very flexible attack as well. Its more efficient against monsters with low hp values. Cannot be countered, and is very effective versus Rampage.


Counter - Auto ability. Only patriots and herbivores can have this. There would be a chance, when attacked, the creature would react and attack back. Not very powerful, and the chances are only 10% times the stage, but very useful to have.


Rampage - A furious rampage that is only available to carnivores and maulers. Does heavy damage, and pushes other creatures away. But this one is horribly slow to recharge, and even costs health to execute. But the strength of this move is simply incredible.


Teamwork - Call on your allies to execute a major form of attack that uses all of them at once. Only those with this ability join into the pertaining attack. This can be a very useful skill, but beware countering and rampage units when this is applied. To execute, you will need to use a second attack.


New awards:

Lone Wolf - Do not hire any allies during the creature stage.
Solo Empire - In the civilized stage, do not accept any allies.
Solo Pilot - In the space stage, until you get the last award, do not hire any allies except via the initual alliance.
Destiny Bind - Find the epic world for your pertaining group and colonize it.
Supreme Ruler - Colonize the epic worlds of every job variant in existance.

Notes:

Colonizing any epic world will make that group instantly allied with you. Thats EVERYONE in the pertaining group, even sworn enemies.

Colonizing all {15} will make you instantly win the galactic stage.

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Aravan99


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Part 3: A few devious extras.

Rare treasures - in each phaze, there would be some special rare assetts. These assetts happen about 1:50 games...

Cell stage

Ship ruins - when your asteroid crashes into the sea, there would be a chance to re-find it. Usually its not there, but sometimes it will appear. In such cases, it would grant an instant win with all the features enabled. But... reaching the core of it would be extremely hard! (availabe only on hard, worth a new award)


Creature stage

Transciever unit - Sometimes the aliens would have a small accident with their ship and not discover it for quite a while. If your creature enters social mode, and you interact with this device, you could pick one of these bonuses:

(1) I wish to leave a mark....

The aliens would actually super size your group. It only works 5 times. However.... if you can actually beat an epic this way, the aliens would ally with you even in the creature phaze, further, they would support your speedy advancement to the space age, even helping you to choose your final job status.

(2) A lust for power

The aliens would support your ventures to reach other continents. However, you could only evolve on the main continent. The creatures on the other continenents are guaranteed to be equal or higher to the genetic complexity of your creature at the time of interaction.

(3) Make us well known

The alien would leave, but would tell many of the nearby races of your existance. Further, this would grant a +10 in relationships with all races everywhere. This would also make your species seen more frequently.

(4) I am a rare creature

Its simple. They discover that your species is very rare. Put simply, games and planets would be much less likely to have a version of your species in any form. Especially the later stages... Further, they would loose contact with your species.

(5) Double agent

This one is devious. If you became a patriot or mauler in any stage, they would divide that into 2 elements. Whatever 2 that it balances between. It would provide you with potentially more flexibility. If you are neither, however, all the way thru, they would award you with 200,000 sporebucks and lv1 in every badge.

(6) Tribal lore

Put simply, your tribe woud begin with all the tribal buildings. Further, it would have 100 points initual food.

(7) Gene Hunter

Pick any 3 genetic elements. The aliens would reveal those genes to you.

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I support the RP posting betterment movement. Please put this in your sig if you agree.

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CrazyShyness


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Aravan99, you should use the edit button to add to your last post instead of triple posting.

Please check out my creations. I will attempt to comment back at some point or another. Real life and all. If I haven't returned the comment please remind me.

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Aravan99


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I fear that they may be too long for that. I had no choice where I stand.

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As long as one has an open mind and heart, there is always hope for improvement.

I support the RP posting betterment movement. Please put this in your sig if you agree.

If you give me absolute scientific proof... I guarantee it will force me to accept that concept. But I may find a reason against it.
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AaronMk


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Posts here can actually hold a lot of information I think. But there's no counter to tell us where and when the limit is and no one's bothered actually counting how many characters are in a post. So I would just edit those in until you can add any more, if I'm correct whatever goes over the limit should be auto deleted. Then you can make a new post for the rest. And afterwards copy the contents of the first post over into Word to make it count how many characters there are, including spaces.


Anyways, I'll try to read this later. Although I don't make quarentees, because I end up breaking them.

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Aravan99


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The problem is... I dont want to waste content. I want all the details of a section on one post... it makes clear sense, doesn't it?

So... unless I get a CLEAR understanding of just what that limit would be, I hate to do this, but I have no choice.

I will promise to try to make those posts as long as I can, however, ok?

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Aravan99


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Lastly, the diplo options.

(1) Relationship questions.

The idea is simple. There would be a file with 25 questions. Each race will potentially ask 10 eventually. These questions would each give a +5, -5, or 0 in relationships. A perfect score would grant you the races technology.

Most races would let you answer usually 1-3 at a time. Some may allow up to 5, but, with the exception of the galactic counsel, it would be rare to see a race willing to grant all 10.

(2) Atrocity Rights

You could ask any race the right to use a forbidden assett.
Up to 3 groups could approve. At 3, the relation penalties would be greatly reduced, but not eliminated.
However, no group would be willing to grant a race this right more than 3 times per game.

(3) Gather advice

You could ask the advice of another group if your relationship is sufficient, either asking a question or getting general advice about varying things.

(4) See relationships

It would be possible to obtain the relationship situation between 2 races. This can be a very useful tool in deciding which races should be attacked or not.

(5) Place a wager

It would be possible to gamble diplomatic actions. Be careful how much you wager. Some groups would be more likely than others to agree to a wager.

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As long as one has an open mind and heart, there is always hope for improvement.

I support the RP posting betterment movement. Please put this in your sig if you agree.

If you give me absolute scientific proof... I guarantee it will force me to accept that concept. But I may find a reason against it.
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Aravan99


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Somehow, I dont think this will be made. Its getting great support, but few comments are being made for it, let alone what I deem as attention in the first place.

If you are presently 80% certain of this as well, you have my permission to close this.


*sigh* I always fail....

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If you give me absolute scientific proof... I guarantee it will force me to accept that concept. But I may find a reason against it.
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warmslime


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Most threads in feedback are like that...

Aravan99


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I see that as a slight problem, but ok.

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As long as one has an open mind and heart, there is always hope for improvement.

I support the RP posting betterment movement. Please put this in your sig if you agree.

If you give me absolute scientific proof... I guarantee it will force me to accept that concept. But I may find a reason against it.
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Nice ideas. Mauler should be between Carnivore and Omnivore though. Their description makes it sound like they're more aggressive than Carnivores.
 
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