kaleb702 wrote:As soon as you managed to count it it would have expanded so far that you would have to recount.
It expands at an FTL rate, and we have only puddle-jumped to the moon, let alone the galaxy, to the universe we are basically blind.
So, let's face it.
No one knows.

yes.

UltimateZob wrote:I think it would be somewhere over 9000.

and lol, yes.

kaleb702 wrote:As soon as you managed to count it it would have expanded so far that you would have to recount.
It expands at an FTL rate, and we have only puddle-jumped to the moon, let alone the galaxy, to the universe we are basically blind.
So, let's face it.
No one knows.

Theres something called an approximation. To estimate the size of the universe, they have the expansion of space as a function of time. Which puts the diameter of the universe at 78 billion light years. having checked it it seems that the 150 billion light years was a mistake someone made because they thought 78 billion was the radius not the diameter calculated.
Using the hubble telescope the youngest stars and pulsars about that distance have been seen at 60 billion light years with the observable universe obviously greater than that.

Rebecca1208 wrote:Well, a KM is just far too small a measurement for the universe. It's like getting a nano-meter (if such exists) against a parsec, IMO.

They exist.

And they are used to measure lengths of bacteria.

actually, it's more like using millimeters to measure the width of the Solar system.

CaptainOomp wrote:Space can move faster than light, so the universe is expanding like that. The universe's expansion is getting larger every day, as well as the universe. So right now it's probably infinity.

Just how would something expand to infinity?

Galacticworld wrote:

kaleb702 wrote:As soon as you managed to count it it would have expanded so far that you would have to recount.
It expands at an FTL rate, and we have only puddle-jumped to the moon, let alone the galaxy, to the universe we are basically blind.
So, let's face it.
No one knows.

Theres something called an approximation. To estimate the size of the universe, they have the expansion of space as a function of time. Which puts the diameter of the universe at 78 billion light years. having checked it it seems that the 150 billion light years was a mistake someone made because they thought 78 billion was the radius not the diameter calculated.
Using the hubble telescope the youngest stars and pulsars about that distance have been seen at 60 billion light years with the observable universe obviously greater than that.

But as soon as they approximate, it would have grown.

kaleb702 wrote:

Galacticworld wrote:

kaleb702 wrote:As soon as you managed to count it it would have expanded so far that you would have to recount.
It expands at an FTL rate, and we have only puddle-jumped to the moon, let alone the galaxy, to the universe we are basically blind.
So, let's face it.
No one knows.

Theres something called an approximation. To estimate the size of the universe, they have the expansion of space as a function of time. Which puts the diameter of the universe at 78 billion light years. having checked it it seems that the 150 billion light years was a mistake someone made because they thought 78 billion was the radius not the diameter calculated.
Using the hubble telescope the youngest stars and pulsars about that distance have been seen at 60 billion light years with the observable universe obviously greater than that.

But as soon as they approximate, it would have grown.

It took 13.75 billion years for the universe to reach 75 billion light years. Its not suddenly going to increase by another 10 billion light years in the time it takes to solve an equation.

Damnagoras wrote:

CaptainOomp wrote:Space can move faster than light, so the universe is expanding like that. The universe's expansion is getting larger every day, as well as the universe. So right now it's probably infinity.

Just how would something expand to infinity?

I just said how

CaptainOomp wrote:

Damnagoras wrote:

CaptainOomp wrote:Space can move faster than light, so the universe is expanding like that. The universe's expansion is getting larger every day, as well as the universe. So right now it's probably infinity.

Just how would something expand to infinity?

I just said how

I think he was pointing out that expanding to infinity is impossible because no matter how far or how fast you expand, you are always as far away from infinity as one.

Just face it, the WHOLE UNIVERSE is expanding at a rate faster than the speed of light, so we couldn't find that out even if it was created a second ago! And infinity is a parallax number, if a number at all, you can't count to it, its the number form of FOREVER.

Note: didn't read all of this.

Approximately 9460528400000 × 156 billion kilometers, whatever that is.

Source: Google.

The first option and the second, and third are impossible, because the first one is smaller than the Earth, and the others wouldn't fit in even more stars.

properhealth wrote:Just face it, the WHOLE UNIVERSE is expanding at a rate faster than the speed of light, so we couldn't find that out even if it was created a second ago! And infinity is a parallax number, if a number at all, you can't count to it, its the number form of FOREVER.

Thats rather specious logic. The universe has constant variables in its design. Which means if you know the variables that cause the universe to expand you dhould know how far it has expanded.

I mean thats like saying what 256 x 342. You don't need to add 342, 256 times by going one number at a time. There are rule which allow you to get the correct answer a much faster way. The same applies to the universe. You don't need to directly count each specific lightyear when knowing the relationship between universal constants allows you to get a formula and work it out faster.

And I'm not sure its expanding 3 dimensional space but expanding into higher theoretical euclidean dimensions. But I may be wrong.

Aweirdgamer wrote:Note: didn't read all of this.

Approximately 9460528400000 × 156 billion kilometers, whatever that is.

Source: Google.

Wrong.
That is:
1.4758424304e+24
And, that wasn't the replacement for a comma because of the system we're using. That was a decimal point.