What a load of bollocks.

Whilst I'm not exactly thrilled to have this software, no Company is going to risk the potential damages that would befall them by using something that will "completely wipe the hard drive" and all the other nonsense people are spouting about the program.

No, the sky isn't falling.

michlo wrote:What a load of bollocks.

Whilst I'm not exactly thrilled to have this software, no Company is going to risk the potential damages that would befall them by using something that will "completely wipe the hard drive" and all the other nonsense people are spouting about the program.

No, the sky isn't falling.

i think we totaly beat that horse all ready

Pugnap00 wrote:

matterialize wrote:

"completely wipes their hard drive"

I think they're exaggerating their claim a bit.

yeah alot of it is exagerated. DRM doesnt wipe your hard drive

Which is why this case is doing the anti-DRM crowd more harm than good.

Pugnap00 wrote:i bet even if they put it on the box people would still install it, or they would see it and say "oh, i have no clue what that is oh well i want spore"

EA even made an announcement that they would include this with their software, and people still installed it.

yes but not all people follow games like a cult, just because they announced over the net that the game would include said DRM, does not ensure that everyone who purchased spore was aware of the DRM and the heavy price of having it bundled with their game, while installing the game it never mentioned once that it was installing the DRM nor did it mention that you have a limit of 3 installs, all though i was drunk when i installed it, but im positive that it didnt mention it was installing the DRM! i am also looking at my galactic edition box and it is not labeled anywhere that it has this DRM included, or anywhere on the box indicating that im only allowed 3 installs after which i will have to kiss EAs feet to be able to install it after those 3 (no more doing what i used to do with the sims all these years, uninstalling it to free up space when im bored with it and reinstalling it when i feel like playing it again)

its those lack of labeling mixed with spores creature creator with the big letters SPORE STARTER KIT!<-the exclamation point is not added by me if you own the creature creator pick up the case and look for your self, they wanted us to believe this was a necessary purchase in order to play spore when it was released! because in reality who pays 10 bucks for demos esp demos that dont show any gameplay what so ever...this was false advertisement in my book, starter kit implies that its needed in order to play the game when infact if you read the book in the spore creature creator case it states that you will need to completely remove the creature creator in order to install spore! now im not too sure about this but if this was written in big letters with an exclamation point at the end on the front of the case im sure you would have seen more people using the free creature creator demo from the site instead of paying 10 dollars for what is now a useless piece of software mixed in with all my old software!

its about time someone tries to show EA that were not gonna be bullied by false advertisement and lack of effort to alert the people buying their games that we are only allowed 3 installs after which we must beg to be allowed to play a game that we rightfully own and payed for!

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\SecuROM -s" and "C:\regdelnull

LOL , I would but " registry editing has been disabled by your administrator "


whoa whoa whoa

Is EA being sued or suing?

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/23/Spore.pdf

mrrogershasagun wrote:Is EA being sued or suing?

being suied

there taking it up the butt.

This would be interesting news, if it weren't for the fact that we live in a country where you can "Go to court" over spilling hot coffee on yourself in a Drive-Thru or by snapping yourself in the eye with your underpants. (Both very real). Doesn't mean it will WIN. The worst thing it does is create negative press which makes people think twice about using products so it hurts the company usually in a more PR respect than a legal respect.

http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/5054.page

The actual PDF court documents are in the thread here. First post.

DRM does not wipe your harddrive.

I think the reason why they are suing cause there is now way for the consumer to know that its including the stuff when they buy the game. The problem with the EULA you don't see it when you purchase the game.

Well... I have to say.. this makes me feel sad for EA... I hate EA for their untested patches, forcing devs to release products early and their choice to produce alot of derivitive games and games with an excess of advertisements...

But I totally understand DRM... You can only install on 3 (or 5) systems? What a travesty, you cant pass the disc off to all of your friends... or more likely, put it online for free download... This is the only way PC gaming can exsist and keep going, consoles have a disc, much harder to fake, but on a cmputer it is *very* easy to fake a non-mmo. I met several people who have proudly stated they havent paid for a computer games in years... I understand people dont wanna be treated like criminals but seriously...

Thats like walking into Gamestop and saying "How dare you put a sensor on the game that needs to be switched off before I buy the game, who the hell do you think I am, I am not a thief." There are plenty of thieves... A few precautionary measures are understandable... I understand if it was only for one install on one computer with no chance of reinstalls people getting pissed off... but you got 5 installs that only trigger if you change your comp or are on different computers...

PC games are bieng ripped off at ludicrous levels... When I was living in dorms at college someone ripped off a game online, put it on a disc and passed it out through the entire floor then had a lan party... This is just one example... I mean jesus if I ripped off pretty much any other type of store ohe then a music store (another things that is ripped off way too much) and blatantly said it, most people would recoil and say "Whats wrong witbh you/"

I understand this is not the best way to do things... but until a better method of copy protection is formed this will do... I dont see what the big deal is... I mean alot of people are in a huff over it... but I have yet to hear a valid arguement... I dont like limited installs either buy is there any reason people are pissed that isnt just that they cant lend it to their friends... jesus.. theres plenty of valid reason to dislike spore like its lack of depth....

The drm isnt reallty a big deal...

Whoa, whoa, whoa. How is the average consumer going to know how (or even have the time or patience) to do this?

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/23/Spore.pdf


At no point did the case pdf say that the DRM wipes out you hard drive. courthousenews got the quote wrong so read the actual case file pdf before commenting.

commandertWhoa, whoa, whoa. How is the average consumer going to know how (or even have the time or patience) to do this?[/quote wrote:

[quote=]the average user isnt going to know or care what securom is in the first place, because believe it or not its not new and it barely causes many issues at all

@ the guy who quoted the text from the agreement, yeah thats what im talking about. it tells you what its going to do and that you have set limit to installs but not in specifics. so if you read that and clicked accept anyway its your own fault that you didnt bother to go find out what its actually going to install on your computer

this is not the issue the issue is that when you go to the store to buy the game does the store clerk hand you a copy of that paticular games EULA and force you to read it word for word out loud to prove you understand it and force you to sign it before purchasing the game? once the game hands you the EULA its too late you opened the game placed the disk in your computer and it is now in most cases impossible to return for a full refund!

edit i dont know what happend it cut the second quoters name out????