Nibiru does not exist, it is a fantasy created by Zacharia Sitchin from yours free-associations about the Sumerians culture and legends.

Sitchin does not have the slightest knowledge of astronomy needed to understand that their world can not exist in our solar system.

Nibiru can not exist for several reasons but the key is the instability of its orbit and orbital instability that would in other planets of the solar system. Simulations using professionals planetary dynamics softwares show that our solar system even exist the way it is (for example the inner planets would not exist, would have been ejected from their orbits by gravitational interactions with Nibiru) if this planet existed.

Even Nibiru not existed in our solar system after a few orbits cause the gravitational interactions with Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune destabilise completely its highly elliptical orbit ejecting the planet of the solar system at hundreds or dozens of years (depending on the degree of orbital inclination given its orbit in the simulation)

Forget Nibiru, it is just a fantasy and these videos are fake.

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Can you state your sources for this simulator? I'd beinterested in reading it and if its public software, running it myself.

The Mayan calendar stops working in 2012. So does our calendar on every single December 31st. It's the same thing.

Watching youtube videos and reading conspiracy theorist websites is NOT research, folks. Educate yourselves.

Well, that certainly is...interesting. Though I have to say, I doubt it. I can maybe see the possibility of a planet, but all this goes way out there. I think you said you didn't really agree with most of the video yourself, and I will agree with you there- the video just seems silly. Lizard humanoids who came to Earth and disguised themselves as US presidents is actually a theory I have heard before, and don't think much of. I doubt it will "kill us all" either.

BenRK answers with common sense.

I'll state this right now, Nibiru is not real. At least, not in the sense of the world ending. Meaning, I haven't ruled out the possibility of more planets in our solar system, but this Nibiru just doesn't exist.

First and foremost, it has a claimed elliptical orbit of 3600 years. If a Nibiru event was to happen in 2012, this would mean that Nibiru would have gone through 99.909722222...% of its orbit. With less then 0.1% remaining in its orbit, and something of that size, we would be able to see something significant in the sky with our naked eyes. And guess what, we can't.

Secondly, there is no geological or historical evidence of such an event occurring 3596.75 years ago. Simple as that. And didn't we have some ancient civilizations back then that we talk about regularly, and they didn't die off 2596.75 years ago.

Personally, I find it more likely that the moon in an ancient alien space station then a Nibiru event in 2012 happening.

All in all however, the world will end as we know it in 2012. Come dooms day, some people freak out. Come the next day, they wake up, kick them selves for being stupid, and continue on with our lives, coming up with some new date for dooms day.

Its all a lie the world really ended in 2000 when the crazy computers took over the world, your just in denial.

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Also, some people say that Nibiru will cause dramatic changes in temperature due to the magnetic polar flip. The major effects of this are the icecaps melting, and hurricanes and tornados everywhere, including tsunamis and hailstones weighing over 100 pounds each, also including volcanoes and earthquakes larger than anything ever experienced before

If the Warpublicans win the election this fall, we won't need Nibiru to melt the icecaps!
(The rest of the above is already occurring due to the impact of global climate change to this point.)

Every generation has those that think the world is going to end, it's nothing new.

Barring a mathematical quirk of the highest magnitude, we will destroy our own planet before it is destroyed by any outside source (given our current path, which we can change if people were willing.)

I believe we have a long history in front of us, and will eventually succeed in becoming a space-faring race, though it will be a long while from now.

When Simkill Said:

Maybe there really are aliens on Nibiru who had given the egyptians the exact location of where the stars are and how to align the pyramids,

Like In the new Indiana Jones? lol

I have had theories of my own somewhat similar to this (for some reason) before really hearing all of this. Another thing, the second video of the first page has been removed. Coincedence or to prevent us from knowing the truth?! I don't know, just saying overdramatically. I believe there is something that will occur on December 21st, 2012 of great change, but why does it have do be the end of the world and not just a paradigm (a great change in thought for society) like finding other life but not hostile or anything? Well... why does it have to be the END or fake? I'm waiting. That's my answer, and since it's not in the poll options, I can't vote.

Oh yah, forgot something, according to something I learned earlier, there was a planet in the early solar system that did crash with Earth, that made our moon. It was about the size of Mars. (according to the show I saw on it)

wow that is so deep

simkill wrote:Can you state your sources for this simulator? I'd beinterested in reading it and if its public software, running it myself.

Sure,

You can download it here:

- http://www.arm.ac.uk/~jec/

( Mercury software is free )

The astronomer Patryk Sofia Lykawka ( specialist in Planetary Dinamic - http://harbor.scitec.kobe-u.ac.jp/~patryk/index-en.html ) made some simulations testing the stability of the solar system in the presence of a planet like Nibiru in a time scale of 10 million years.

The orbital data was got of Sitchin descriptions of Nibiru:

Semi-major axis (a): 235.5000000
Eccentricity (e): 0.9800000
Inclination (i): 30.0000000
Longitude of ascending node (Node): 120.5911330
Argument of perihelion (Peri): 90.0000000
Mean anomaly: 66.9061279
Diameter: 427600 km
Mass relative to:
- Earth: 314.483728404982
- Sun: 9.44442489354537E-04
- Jupiter: 1
- Kg: 1.8786E+27


The results of the simulations are here:

Simulation without Nibiru:
- No surprise, the entire Solar System and the belt of asteroids have remained stable until the end ( of simulation). Simulations published in scientific articles show stability more than 5 ~ 10 billion years.

Simulations with Nibiru:
- Planets: orbits of the planets become instable at least 1 million years! Some planets are expelled from the Solar System (for Nibiru or Jupiter, after disruptions caused by the first). Collisions of Mercury, Venus and Earth to the sun also possible. At the end of 10 million years, usually what's left is a system with 2-5 planets, and with profound changes in their orbits (in fact, instable orbits ).
- Nibiru: was ejected of Solar System by Jupiter after a few million years in 2 of 3 simulations. Its orbit has never remained stable! In the last simulation, survided by 10My, but the other planets not ...
- Earth: deeply disturbed by Nibiru on a scale of time for hundreds of thousands of years. Orbit significantly amended or even ejection system.
- The asteroid belt: the great majority are ejected out of the Solar System in less than 500 thousand years. General trend: the total destruction in millions of years.

Nibiru is a planet impossible in our solar system, at present or in the past. Nibiru is an urban legend !

Note:

You also use another astronomical integrators like:

- http://math.ubbcluj.ro/~sberinde/solsyin/index.html

- http://www.orbitsimulator.com/gravity/articles/what.html

- http://universesandbox.com/


The first two are free and more scientifically confiable than the last. The first two also more intuitive than Mercury ( good for beginners )

But the best ( with scientically robust results ) is the Mercury of John Chambers.


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this is just funny how simkill didnt relise that if it does exist it would have hit earth 3600 years ago and that would have killed all humans but it didnt cause it wont hit earth

In short, it is a real planet, that is confirmed, the thing is...

IT DOES NOT support life.
IT WILL NOT kill us all.
And scientist believe that it's own magnetic polarity or something something will stop before it reaches earth.
IT DID NOT start life on earth, let's be honest, "Aliens came here from lightyears away came before man had technology, left us here, died out for some reason, left no trace of there existence, and are coming back to get us. See something wrong here?
The pyramids have been quite explained... Actually, there are many many many accounts of how they were explained... They are so explained, that this would make you retarded to say that they haven't been explained.
Earth was not the reminisce of another planet... Why? Oh that's right, it's perfectly spherical and is placed in the exact position on a stable orbit to support life. The moon however, is believed to have possibly been once part of earth.
If planet Niribu or what ever has water, it is all quite frozen if it does, second, it has no certain orbit, do to the fact that it can't be that far from it's sun and still be orbiting it.
There is a moon that orbits... Jupiter I believe, that has frozen water on top, and water under that, but that is all.
Niribu is a completely dark planet if it is that far from it's orbit, it has no plants, it has no life.
It it hit a planet, it would have been thrown off orbit.

Ok, there's just too many reasons for Niribu not to have life, and all of these theory to be absolutely insane. At best, it is a planet that will not come any where near earth, or a large displaced planet that will eathier come close to earth, miss, or not come at all.

" Also, believe it or not, Ancient egypt used to be lushous green land with rivers, grass and trees. Something happened to cause a massive change of environment for the earth to turn it into the desert it is today. "

The Nile is quite lush, and if you've learned about a magical being called the dinosaur, you'll know that when they existed the earth shifted quite a lot, it was once very flooded, then the ice age happened, and a lot of the water turned into the polar ice caps.

The only way it will hit us is if it goes through what's known as a Gravitational Keyhole, which would then make it hit us on 2036, and even then the chance that it will is extremely low. However, scientists are working on several methods to repel it, such as wrapping one side of the rock in a highly reflective material, turning it into a solar sail or sorts (say that three times fast).

EDIT: Also, the asteroid thing that's supposed to hit in 2029, has a 1 in 45000 chance, or it did any way, until being classified as a close encounter, on both 2029 and 2036 where it will look like a pin point of star light. Oh, if it hits the gravitational key hole, it will appear again as a close encounter in 2036, if not, it will not show up at all.

Oh, and one of my final opinions... I don't care if it's real or not, if it destroys us, it's a worth while way to die. If we are visited by aliens, it's a worth while way to 'meet are makers'. And although I have HIGH doubts about this, I suppose we just have to wait and see. But if it doesn't come, I'm going to laugh at every one who believed in it, especially on youtube.

well if a meteor did come nasa said that they would have a plan for deflecting it i got this from http://near.jhuapl.edu/intro/faq.html go to question 14 that says Say an asteroid does come toward Earth?