Haxorzunited14 wrote:No, that dog suffers no mental trauma from that, while a child will never mentally recover from being to deformed and different, your intolerance is not only disturbing but it is almost laudable.

No mental trauma?
Isn't pain and physical trauma something?

Your closed mindedness is crude and primitive.
Tough, yes, you are right that we can comprehend the pain more, I'd highly recomend you do away with any notion that the human species is more fully developed than other life forms if you ever plan on a scientific carrer.

I'm not going to argue with you any longer.
Animals feel pain.
Animals can be traumatised.

Humans feel pain.
Humans can be traumatised.

All your saying is that humans can comprehend enough to whine about their pain.

okknaggs88 wrote:

Haxorzunited14 wrote:No, that dog suffers no mental trauma from that, while a child will never mentally recover from being to deformed and different, your intolerance is not only disturbing but it is almost laudable.

No mental trauma?
Isn't pain and physical trauma something?

Your closed mindedness is crude and primitive.
Tough, yes, you are right that we can comprehend the pain more, I'd highly recomend you do away with any notion that the human species is more fully developed than other life forms if you ever plan on a scientific carrer.

I'm not going to argue with you any longer.
Animals feel pain.
Animals can be traumatised.

Humans feel pain.
Humans can be traumatised.

All your saying is that humans can comprehend enough to whine about their pain.

It is true that animals can be traumatised.

The thing is, a dog can have a happier life without a leg, than a human can have a happier life without a leg.
But that's because it affects our conscience, something animals do not have.

okknaggs88 wrote:

Haxorzunited14 wrote:No, that dog suffers no mental trauma from that, while a child will never mentally recover from being to deformed and different, your intolerance is not only disturbing but it is almost laudable.

No mental trauma?
Isn't pain and physical trauma something?

Your closed mindedness is crude and primitive.
Tough, yes, you are right that we can comprehend the pain more, I'd highly recomend you do away with any notion that the human species is more fully developed than other life forms if you ever plan on a scientific carrer.

I'm not going to argue with you any longer.
Animals feel pain.
Animals can be traumatised.

Humans feel pain.
Humans can be traumatised.

All your saying is that humans can comprehend enough to whine about their pain.

Arkanay pretty much sumed it up,

You however, are a simpleton of the first degree, the human species evolved to have a higher intellect and be sentient, i never said we are more developed, that is your own mind at work, and hilariously so, you can't even argue my real opinion so you resort to straw men.

This issue will be pressed no longer as your childish antics are a poor mask for your denial.

Guys, does anyone else think its slightly disturbing we're getting into a huge argument over how much children are suffering from horrible mutations? Shouldn't we just feel sorry for them instead of arguing over whether a dog could feel as much pain as the human could? Just wondering.

You are correct, but if you look at his earlier posts he feels we should not feel bad for them, unless I am mistaken.

okknaggs88 wrote:

--1Ak-- wrote:Uh.. No we KILL them before cooking, ect..

Yes, the flesh is dead, though I find it odd that the sight of grisley radiated meat doesn't upset you if its not from a human.

Even though you go crackers if it is from a human, or still attached to one.

okknaggs...has it sunk in that these unfortunates are STILL ALIVE? Animals are killed before they are cut up and burned to feed us. The difference is, they are DEAD before the painful part begins. And since they live a lot less, they don't suffer as much as a human who is constantly being tried to be kept alive.

A dog feels the same trauma as a human, its just that dogs are wayy more forgiving than a human is, and learn to cope with disadvantages much better than humans.

No, they are not self aware and do not feel remorse, nor do they feel vengence.

@ oknaggs: Spend a day with one of those people- better yet: go through what happens to those people and tell me that you don't feel sorry for them. People and animals die every second. It sucks, but it happens. Humans and animals are exposed to high levels of radiation very rarely. I feel for both, but I share the same species with the former, so I feel more for them. It is evolutionary. We care more for humans than for other species. It was better in the long run. This is not bait for a Cv.E debate. I am just stating scientific facts.

I care for my dog more than a lot of people though

Correction: We normally care more for our species in general than for other species in general.

I still wouldn't feel sorry for them if I had to go through it.

I'd only feel sorry for my self.

I love when people try the clasic "look at it from their point of view" thing and expect it to work. <3

Wow. You are emotionless. You must be popular.
Most people can understand other people's point of veiw. You know: empathy?

poisson14 wrote:Wow. You are emotionless. You must be popular.
Most people can understand other people's point of veiw. You know: empathy?

I like him...

Being a deformed mutant would suck for anyone, animal or human. But who cares? If you dwell on things, like pictures of deformed babies, it will only get you down. Build a bridge, and get over it.

I mean him not showing any remorse for them. It's not that we dwell on it; it's that he doesn't think we should care for them at all.