I remember once the Ape empire calling me a "intergalactic whippersnapper". He also said "And any frisbees we see on our lawn we're keeping." Okay I asked him the philosophy and they said shaman. My awkward first encounter with a shaman. And they were close to the core. Weird thing is, they distrusted strangers! Afterwards, on another save, I met another shaman who seemed to be a lot nicer.

Have you noticed shamans are correct by believing in spirit and magic? The STAFF of life? Come on! This form is about shamans.

Every once in a while you come across an "old" empire. Old folks that is. Regular shamans are usually much more friendly.

And just like real life people, we're free to believe what we want. There is no right and wrong.

No, see if the backround is like a bunch of crystals and and they don't like strangers, then it is a horrible glitch!

Blaziken2008 wrote:No, see if the backround is like a bunch of crystals and and they don't like strangers, then it is a horrible glitch!

.. There are old empires. I have one in one of my files. Though I don't believe mine are shamans. Then again, I haven't asked them

Could be a bug, or could be by design. Either way, now I'm going to have to look for these old Empires. I do not think I have encounter one yet.

Well, Maxis may have made the Ape empire on purpose like that. I found them the diagonal left, near the groz borders.

pizzaboy9109 wrote:Well, Maxis may have made the Ape empire on purpose like that. I found them the diagonal left, near the groz borders.

I've come across the Ape empire in my game. I believe they were Scientists.

What is the significance of "Old Empires" anyhow? I've never heard of them. But then again I've not heard about a lot of things.

they are probably easter eggs i found one in my first file....and that's how i started my next few files....my poor poor Alecheys

Well... On the whole, Shamans try to be colour-blind. After all, we're all the Galaxy and the Galaxy is in everyone and everything. Me myself, I find it hard to live up to those standards whenever I encounter Zealots...

Maybe Old Empires are have special philosophies! Someone try to ask the the philosophy, because it's been a while. Ally with them and do the archetype mission.

If an empire talks about "old whippersnappers buzzin' in our ear" and they distrust strangers at the same time, then it is a Warrior empire. If they say their philosophy is Harmony, then it's a glitch. The philosophy for them should be Force.

old empires dude, old empires like the poster said

somehow i think this a glitch because of using Mods.

i'm using Mods heavily on a Zealot save file & in one instance, my relationship with a scientist empire had:

"-15 Refused to pay us tribute" (or something like that)

i ignore it. it doesn't affect my game much, except make it more fun. i dont think my relationship with that 'rogue' Scientist Empire became lower because i refused them tribute. it was stuck at -15 & they never asked me for any tribute at all.

No it isn't a mod glitch it was the Grobbit empire for me and when i encounterd them i didn't even have a registerd account name so how could i have known what mods where?

Old Empires are just a part of the game. I assume that the game just randomly picks a few empires throughout the galaxy to behave as the oldies. The species and philosophy doesn't matter. Old is old...

Be funny as hell if the Grox could be chosen to be an old empire.