Just a though; however, I am patient enough to wait for their next installment to be DRM free.

Cheers,
Roboraptor

managerjosh wrote:Here's just a random thought since I've actually looked at all 36 pages of the complaint filed.

Can Ms. Thorne seek a lawsuit under CLRA? The CLRA is a law passed by the State of California to protect the citizens of California. Ms. Thorne is a resident of the state of Maryland.

Another question: Was Ms. Thorne directly affected by SecuROM? No where in the complaint states she was affected by it. Only allegations I could find is Amazon.com testimonies.

what the suit says is that
1
sence EA is based in californa then it applys.

2
sence the game was distribitubeted 'world wide' then, it applys.

I believe the 5 million case will be dismissed as well. If anything you might get your money back, if they do win. EA may be forced to put a statement on thier products stating what CP is being utilized.

twobit wrote:

managerjosh wrote:Here's just a random thought since I've actually looked at all 36 pages of the complaint filed.

Can Ms. Thorne seek a lawsuit under CLRA? The CLRA is a law passed by the State of California to protect the citizens of California. Ms. Thorne is a resident of the state of Maryland.

Another question: Was Ms. Thorne directly affected by SecuROM? No where in the complaint states she was affected by it. Only allegations I could find is Amazon.com testimonies.

what the suit says is that
1
sence EA is based in californa then it applys.

2
sence the game was distribitubeted 'world wide' then, it applys.

Erm, I don't think you understood the question. The CLRA is a law passed by the State of California and only applies to residents, and entities in the State of California.

For example, the State of California has a hands-free cell phone driving law. It means you can't have a cell-phone in hand while driving in California. It won't apply to someone who's driving in Minnesota, or Nevada, or Maryland, etc. Why? It's a state-law. However it does apply to residents of Minnesota, Nevada, or Maryland, etc. who are driving within the State of California.

So the question I'm raising is in this instance, since it's a state law, can it be used on the federal level? I'm thinking that someone who's a resident of the State of California would have to file the complaint.

Besides, I just realized another thing: Why isn't Sony (creators of SecuROM) not named in this suit?

managerjosh wrote:Here's just a random thought since I've actually looked at all 36 pages of the complaint filed.

Can Ms. Thorne seek a lawsuit under CLRA? The CLRA is a law passed by the State of California to protect the citizens of California. Ms. Thorne is a resident of the state of Maryland.

Another question: Was Ms. Thorne directly affected by SecuROM? No where in the complaint states she was affected by it. Only allegations I could find is Amazon.com testimonies.

EA's EULA states basically that for all legal purposes involving the software, you agree to treat them as being under the jurisdiction of the state of California. California is also the location of one of their major corporate centers.

Given those points this would be the most logical location to sue them in, the one that the judge would most likely agree to as being appropriate. If a judge thought your lawsuit was filed in the improper jurisdiction that would end your suit right then and there regardless of merits, so this is probably the best move, and by the value of their own EULA is the required jurisdiction anyhow.

This would be moot were one to argue their EULA to be void, of course; which is a sensibly correct argument. EULA's usually do contain things which makes it easy to argue that they're non-binding, though there is sadly little in the way of precedent to challenge their legality.

Jackuul wrote:I still support HD-DVD.

i dont support either im not re buying my movies again!

besides between dish on demand HD PPV and all my HD movie channels that broadcast in 1080p and my Dish DVR i get enough HD movies without having to re buy all of them besides is it just me or does anyone remember sony and BetaMax or how about a more recent UMD for psp ive been preying that blu ray flops because right now bluray is all the ps3 has going for it anyway lol

i lost all belief in sony when i had to rebuy my playstation 2 a 4th time!!!!!! i havent bought a sony product ever since

tokeymcbongrip wrote: ive been preying that blu ray flops because right now bluray is all the ps3 has going for it anyway lol

The internet killed blu-ray and hd-dvd.

I agree that SecuROM is a problem. I would like to be able to remove it, when I am finished with the game Spore.

It takes me between 10 and 20 hours to wipe my drive clean and to successfully restore/install all of my programs, due to several factors such as my HP application fails to install properly 70% of the time and the uninstall doesn't extract it completely, my XP OS can not be activated unless I call a Windows service rep (a call that takes nearly 2/3 hours to complete), installing certain apps will sometimes cause the system to crash (fails to boot successfully), etc.

Applications on disc are expensive. I generally try to make a copy of important applications, in case my disc gets scratched or lost. SecuROM will evidently inhibit my ability to make personal duplicates, not that I would want to duplicate Spore because I am rather disappointed with the game.

It would be nice if I could get my money back.

[Posted again due to my first post, on the topic, being removed.]

Jeremy Baker