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BBeast


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Am I permitted to create a 4-Dimensional race? As opposed to the standard three?

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lukeking4564


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For Necro?

I'm not sure, please explain exactly what you have in mind for these 4D people.

Also, Bbeast, would you mind checking over to my Diablo RP thread, I would like your approval to use a similar format to Catacombs.

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4-Dimensional like a hypercube/tesseract. They could have been a small cult of Mysims and some of their spatial changing powers went a bit astray and bumped them up a dimension. They were then outcast from their city because of illegal magic or something like that, and they ended up in Necro. Or anywhere, really.

Being 4-dimensional, they react to our 3rd dimension as if it was the ground, meaning they can bypass pretty much any physical barrier. They are still weak to psychic abilities though. And they have another problem- there is no food-source for 4-dimensional creatures.

Of course, if they are not permitted I understand.

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lukeking4564


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Seems a developed concept, but I think you should ask Pithadius, he is arch-mod after all and I'm not sure I fully understand the concept, DragonEye might understand it though do you might want to wait for him

Sorry I wasn't of more help

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Can you post a sample post of roleplaying a four-dimensional creature?

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Well my second semester has begun, and now I realize the danger of having your last class end fifteen minutes before the bus to take you home is set to leave. Well at least I will get some exercise.

First off, I like the concept. It would be hard to pull off of course, but I think you could do it. Of course as lukeking4564 indicated it is hard for three dimensional creatures to grasp the nature of fourth dimension life (kind of like in that book Flatland) and I am no exception. So if you can give more detail on the subject it would be appreciated. Either way there are a few things to consider about this.

One, in LATG the outer dimensions were basically concepts, like heat, gravity, time, and mind. Of course we are in a new universe so physics might be different, but it is something to consider.

Two, there are only two scenarios were Mysims could pull that off. The first scenario requires your group or their ancestors to have lived in Ombra'Tri between 10,000 and 9,000 years ago, which is when something happened that I will not discuss until the page 100 event is over, as it is just a concept at the moment. The other answer is that this fourth dimension race, back when they were Mysims, dug too deep. This is also post page 100 plot, and it only works if this race's territory has since been overtaken by Silva for similar plot reasons. Curse winter break for giving me time to over plan! Of course the current members of your race must not know what they dug up, though I can tell you some clues they might know if you chose this route.

Alternatively, they could be just another race of the now collapsed UUF. That is where all the races in Necro come from. The UUF spanned tons of galaxies, it is totally plausible that they have fourth dimensional races in their group. This is probably a good route, as if the UUF had 4 D races then they might have technology to convert 3D foods into 4D substances. You would only have one such converter and you won't know how to ficpx it, but it could keep your people alive

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Hmm, I think having them as a remnant of the UUF would be the simplest option. The 4D beings (whom I shall call Tesseracts, after the name for a four-dimensional shape) would have a remnant of 3D to 4D technology. Long ago they knew how it worked, but that knowledge is now lost. The few of them who made it through to Latu now survive by stealing food and converting it into 4D, allowing compatible sustenance.


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It was Twilight in a small village in Necro. It was always twilight there, as with everywhere else on Latu. The village was atop a vast mountain range, impregnable from the ground. Any invaders attempting to enter the village via the hazardous paths up the sheer slopes would be defenceless against the sentry towers. They made a living off farming fungal crops and highland grains.

Thus when thieves arrived for their food it was completely unexpected.

They suddenly appeared at the edge of fields in groups of two or three. Some of these edges were over sheer drops, but they appeared there all the same, not fazed by the many hundreds of metres of air below them. They moved in on the crops.

The torches at the edges of the fields illuminated their figures. They were vaguely humanoid in shape, but it was impossible to determine a distinct form as it was constantly shifting and pulsing mildly. There were no features on the bodies, as it instead appeared as some kind of translucent gel, with vague reflections of itself inside. This would be near the best any normal being could describe them, as these strangers were actually four-dimensional. They referred to themselves as the Tesseracts.

They moved in on the fields in a motion that was somewhere between floating and walking. They reached out for crops, uprooted them without the plant even touching the ground it was attached to (such as how a 3D being can pull apart two interlocking puzzle pieces) and gathered them into bundles. As these bundles began to grow large, they made them vanish, along with their arms. Then their arms would return and they would repeat. What they had done was scrunch up the three-dimensional object into a four-dimensional ball, like a three-dimensional creature could do to a piece of paper to make it take up less room.

It wasn't long before the farmers of these crops noticed the unwelcome visitors. Not stopping to wonder how they got all the way up here, they grabbed their weapons and went to deal with them. The first obstacle they encountered, however, was that merely looking at the Tesseracts made their eyes and brains hurt due to their inability to physically comprehend and process a four-dimensional object.

Shoving these mild issues aside, the farmers attempted shouting at them to make them go away. The visitors looked in their direction, but otherwise ignored them. So the farmers resorted to brute force. But to their dismay, although bullets appeared to draw very mild signs of pain, they did virtually nothing to the beings. This was all because any attack in the third dimension was only attacking the very bottom layer of the Tesseracts. Their equivalent of the soles of their feet.

While most of the Tesseracts remained passive, some did retaliate. They vanished from sight, only to return again right next to the farmers. They did this by literally jumping, but through the fourth dimension, meaning they exited that third dimensional plane, headed over it in higher 3D planes, and then landed back down at another point in the base third dimension (ie. This one, which is akin to the ground for them). There most of them reached into the gun, bypassing its physical form, and disassembling it with a simple flick of the wrist and wave of the hand, scattering gun parts around the ground. A few used other tricks, but they all left the farmers unharmed. That was their general policy.

Guards were soon to arrive, but by then the Tesseracts were mostly finished and were happy to leave with the spoils they had collected. They exited the same way they entered- via a four-dimensional jump to a rendezvous point somewhere at the base of the mountains.

Although the bewildered town would go hungry for a while, the Tesseracts had again gathered enough food which, when converted, could stave off starvation for long enough to get some more.

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DragonEye4


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Looks like you can handle it well enough. Go ahead and make a sheet!

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Seems okay, though keep in mind that farming gangs are rare in Necro. Also remember that your gang is only just starting out (as are all PC gangs so that power levels are about equal) so they won't have many tools or technology. Aside from that it seems fine.

Well Webageddon might be just around the corner. All we can do now is hope.

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If not many people farm, where do the gangs get their food from?

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PITHADIUS


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Most are hunter gathers, grabbing whatever weeds and prey they can. The demolished city does have a fair amount of plants infesting it, and pets of the UUF have turned feral. A few of the stronger clans can sythesis food from organic material like clay, water, and the atmosphere, though the imitation food is not the best in taste.

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Gang: The Tesseracts
Race/s: Tesseracts
Population: 80
Primary territory: An abandoned, irradiated and supposedly haunted nuclear fission power plant.
Starting tools: The power plant's generator and a 3D to 4D converter.
Allies: None in particular
Enemies: Hostile psychics

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PITHADIUS


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Looks fine. Just so you know, new gangs (PCs) usually are smaller in population, at least initially.

By the way, how active do you think you will be from now till about page 100. I have a plot in mind for Necro, and it needs an active player.

I updated the Wiki with pages for Jalupi, Arooii, and Hwaee. Do not edit the histories of Jalupi yet, as I want to wait a bit longer.

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I will attempt to remain active, although in a few weeks conditions may get a bit tough.

And 80 is actually the entire remaining population of the Tesseracts. And with poor nutrition they are incapable of growing in number.

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Whoah! I'm finally back to the sporum and it feels like three times as long! Well, sorry to anyone who has been waiting on me *Awkward look at Shawie* I've been really busy lately. I'll be sure to read back and post more often. Just letting you know I haven't left.

Any important events i have missed? Within any of the stories?

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