bonobotheory wrote:

hakadalmann wrote:I can't believe people are stupid enough to make a huge deal out of this DRM thing. It's retarded.

Yes, we should be happy that untrustworthy companies want to install harmful software on our computers so they can make a few extra bucks. Complaining about DRM is stupid, like complaining about getting a computer virus, or complaining about getting kicked in the shins by a stranger.

To me its the principle of the thing.
It shows more about the compagny's philosophy towards their clientele then towards security.
The same goes for the EA downloadmanager. They SPORE us by saying that Spore might not patch properly without it, yet we dont need the EA DM at all.

edit: (how can a word as S p o o k we cencor sensitive.....if there is something that needs to be adressed its the cencorship on the community)

Why do you say Cencor? Sounds like a Star Wars monster thing.

parvati wrote:The same goes for the EA downloadmanager. They SPORE us by saying that Spore might not patch properly without it, yet we dont need the EA DM at all.

Woh, they actually said that!? I clicked No to EADM as a reflex lol, then read up on it, discovered it sucks, and downloaded the patch manually. it beggars belief how they could even try to convince people that downloading and running something manually is any different to having a piece of software do exactly the same thing for you.

i still love the threads everywhere saying not to but new games with securom on them, i own and have owned games for years that installed it on my computer years ago with no issue to me.

people are acting like securom is the newest cyberdevil of the apocalypse

commandert wrote:i still love the threads everywhere saying not to but new games with securom on them, i own and have owned games for years that installed it on my computer years ago with no issue to me.

people are acting like securom is the newest cyberdevil of the apocalypse

i guess you are lucky to have had no problems with it. kudos. other people have.

commandert wrote:i still love the threads everywhere saying not to but new games with securom on them, i own and have owned games for years that installed it on my computer years ago with no issue to me.

people are acting like securom is the newest cyberdevil of the apocalypse

Well, if you haven't had any problems, that must mean nobody has had any problems.
I've never been to Belgium, which means Belgium must not exist.

bonobotheory wrote:
I've never been to Belgium, which means Belgium must not exist.

I assure you it does exist

qeustion: do i write the word cencor wrong? I dont understand 3rdtype's answer.

matticusuk wrote:

parvati wrote:The same goes for the EA downloadmanager. They SPORE us by saying that Spore might not patch properly without it, yet we dont need the EA DM at all.

Woh, they actually said that!? I clicked No to EADM as a reflex lol, then read up on it, discovered it sucks, and downloaded the patch manually. it beggars belief how they could even try to convince people that downloading and running something manually is any different to having a piece of software do exactly the same thing for you.

Yup, wich leads to the problem with the underlaying customer philosophy at EA customers department.
Or who ever that is in charge of these things.

parvati wrote:

bonobotheory wrote:
I've never been to Belgium, which means Belgium must not exist.

I assure you it does exist

qeustion: do i write the word cencor wrong? I dont understand 3rdtype's answer.

It's cool, it's spelled Censor usually, but don't sweat it, brah, I got a new creature name anyway.

It is CENSOR, I believe.
As for SecuRom, I have no issues with it, have had it on my machine for over a year, but not Spore's NEW & Improved SecuRom. Anyway, I would like it to go away for one reason only...so the secuRom debate will end. To some of you, it is a new thing. But I have been listening to this SecuRom debate for a year on several forums. So keep fighting the fight people.
I really don't care about SecuRom for any other reason, so I don't join the fight, but I support you guys who do

3rdtype wrote:

It's cool, it's spelled Censor usually, but don't sweat it, brah, I got a new creature name anyway.

Ah thank you for the heads up, i'll add this to my growing list of what not to do when typing in English.

A) Owning games for years doesn't really apply to the situation, as the form of SecuROM that instigated the uprising against it is practically brand new and has only been applied to a handful of games. Previous versions had groups that did not like it, but nowhere near what you see now. I believe this says something about the new incarnation, that so many people are rising up to oppose it.

B) The issue isn't specifically the technical problems it causes - though those are certainly numerous, but the wide scope of impact it has on other areas of issue (consumer rights, first sale rights, etc). Finite limitation on the number of 'uses' on hardware is also a primary contributor to the state of unrest (a revoke tool might alleviate some of the riot against it, but it can't be guaranteed at this point). It also sets some scary precedents on what a company can install in addition to the product you purchased, without any notification or confirmation that you are willing to install it. That's probably one part that may prove to be the legal thorn bush.

C) When things begin to become too invasive people will start to rebel against it. This can apply to laws, drm, taxes, etc. SecuROM has become incredibly invasive, and frankly after the rootkit fiasco Sony had (wherein security was drastically compromised as well as owners rights), I don't trust Sony one iota and that means I don't trust SecuROM which is their creation.

parvati wrote:

3rdtype wrote:

It's cool, it's spelled Censor usually, but don't sweat it, brah, I got a new creature name anyway.

Ah thank you for the heads up, i'll add this to my growing list of what not to do when typing in English.

I'm usually not a poopnose over such things anyway, but the word cencor sounds like some cool freaking monster I need to make soon.

3rdtype wrote:

parvati wrote:

3rdtype wrote:

It's cool, it's spelled Censor usually, but don't sweat it, brah, I got a new creature name anyway.

Ah thank you for the heads up, i'll add this to my growing list of what not to do when typing in English.

I'm usually not a poopnose over such things anyway, but the word cencor sounds like some cool freaking monster I need to make soon.

*rushes of to beat you to it*

Pugnap00 wrote:i bet even if they put it on the box people would still install it, or they would see it and say "oh, i have no clue what that is oh well i want spore"

EA even made an announcement that they would include this with their software, and people still installed it.

those ppl would be dumb then pugnap......i hope EA gets sued for millions even tho the lawsuit is stupid .....the reason i say this is for not giving us the full spore program lol