shinu1729 wrote:

miguel8500 wrote:

shinu1729 wrote:

miguel8500 wrote:Done

You may want to take out the hard returns (I.E. the parts where you pressed "enter") in your sig. Or at least the hard returns inside the image tags. Unless of course that's how you want it.

i wanted side to side but i didnt know how to do that

just don't press enter

grobsmkII wrote:bust the staff of life one you cant go back in the *spoiler*

desepticon4 wrote:Myth: Other empires won't ever dare to attack the Grox.

Truth: They will attack sometimes. (what triggers it I don't know)

desepticon4 wrote:Myth: Other empires won't ever dare to attack the Grox.

Truth: They will attack sometimes. (what triggers it I don't know)

rupertlittlebear wrote:
... all the myths about EA ...
Will be updated as I find/research more... PM me with anything u find, and i'll add it to the list

rupertlittlebear wrote:let's start with a biggie

Myth: over 1 million copies of the game sold

Busted:

Marx83 wrote:Keeping Them Honest!

LIE
Spore Begins With a Big Bang! One Million Games Sold and 25 Million Creations Uploaded
http://www.ea.com/read/20080924-sporemillion.xml

TRUTH
Spore realised sales of 406K units
http://www.pcworld.com/article/152396/npd_xbox_360_soars_past_ps3_in_september_sales.html
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081017-september-npd-numbers-star-wars-trumps-flagging-us-economy.html

The claim of 25 Million Creations is also greatly exaggerated. Spore uploads every variation of a single creation, add a hat to ur creature, new creation uploaded. ~ Thanks RedLightning777

LIE
“I think that, in general, a year and a half ago EA was pretty well hated -- and I think for good reasons," he says. "Today, you’d be hard pressed to go to a forum and not see a lot of people defending EA and its products.” ~ EA CEO
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20655

TRUTH
You've got to be kidding!! EA is the MOST HATED developer! just google "hate EA"

STRAIGHT LIES
EA: Piracy didn't hurt 'Spore' sales
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13846_3-10054438-62.html

"Stepping aside from the whole issue of DRM, people need to recognize that every BitTorrent download doesn’t represent a successful copy of a game, let alone a lost sale," ~ Mariam Sughayer of EA's corporate communications department
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20424

TRUTH
Spore: Most Pirated Game Ever Thanks to DRM
http://torrentfreak.com/spore-most-pirated-game-ever-thanks-to-drm-080913/

LIES FROM THE VIDEOS
See this thread for a detail of how we were misled about spore
http://forum.spore.com/jforum/posts/list/8654.page

View the videos for yourself here
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8372603330420559198&ei=K3_5SIqnJ4mwrQLlo4TqDg&q=spore
and
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-394434397798392775&ei=Wn_5SNSAIJycrAK9oozNCg&q=spore

TRUTH
What you have installed on ur system

LIE
“So far, Spore has outsold Sims 2,” he notes. “Commercially, it’s doing very well.” ~ EA CEO
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20655

TRUTH
the updated list shows [Sims 2] in third with a total 534,000 units sold
(*Spore realised sales of 406K units*)
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=17129

And that figure was ONLY for the year 2007 and did not include previous years!! The release date was September 17, 2004

LIE
"...now we’re allowing more authentications and working with players to de-authenticate which makes it more in line like an iTunes." ~ Will Wright

TRUTH
Ummm....... Where's this de-authenticate wonder?? Oh yea, it doesn't exist yet o.0 so how are u allowing it now?

LIE
I'm guessing that half of them were pirates, and the other half were people caught up in something that they didn’t understand. If I’d had a chance to have a conversation with them, they’d have gotten it... There are different ways to do DRM; the most successful is what WoW does. They just charge you by the month. ~ EA CEO
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2008/10/15/ea-ceo-half-spore-drm-protesters-were-pirates

TRUTH
The simple fact of the matter is EA's CEO refused to talk to anyone about Spore's DRM. Even before Spore was released there was a small furor about the SecuROM DRM. At NO TIME did John Riccitiello invite any discussion.

WoW's model is not the only solution to DRM...
see http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3170117
and http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/10/02/fallout-3-pc-to-ship-with-simple-drm

The simple fact is that DRM does NOT protect sales or products. It only impedes legitimate users. EA has yet to provide proof to support the contrary, not to mention the common sense to see beyond its greedy nose.

Calling your critical opponents pirates or stupid??? Wow, that's really gotta boost the image of EA.

LIE
"I personally don't like DRM. It interrupts the user experience. We would like to get around that. But there is this problem called piracy out there." ~ EA CEO

TRUTH
SecuROM is not necessary to protect sales...

Sins of a Solar Empire by stardock has sold 500,000+ (surpassing SPORE sales) units with minimal DRM!
http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=20026

SoaSE DRM -
"Here's the basic question that every publisher/gamer/developer could ask: By requiring the CD to be in the drive to play a game, even assuming that protection unbreakable, do you increase your sales?

I ask that because many gamers who are on the fence on a given title won't purchase a game if it requires them to treat their CD like a dongle key. Why? Because let's face it, we lose our CDs eventually. Or we damage them. And so what happens is that people who are on the fence on a given title simply choose not to buy the game.

By not having any CD copy protection, people who are on the fence about our game can see that it's only $40 and once it's installed on their machines (plural) they don't have to fuss with the CD anymore. And we do have a type of copy protection -- free updates for customers."
http://forums.galciv2.com/107193/page/3/

Thanks to Dairuka for this lead. And Pyrion for the correction.

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Other Things You Should Know!

In-game advertising is in ~ http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-10065899-52.html
"The quick answer is, of course we would partner with them and anybody else who would write us a check."
What about all the customers who write you checks every day?? Aren't they partners?

In-Game Advertising
Our games may incorporate dynamic advertisement serving technology offered by Massive Inc. or IGA Worldwide Inc. (“Ad Providers”), which enables advertising to be temporarily uploaded into the game on your PC or console, and replaced while you play online. Ad Providers only log information that is needed to measure presentation of, and serve advertising to the appropriate geographic region, and to the right location within the game. Logged data may include Internet Protocol Address or player’s user name, in game location, length of time an advertisement was visible, size of the advertisements, and angle of view. Your game may be assigned an id number, which is stored on your PC or console, and used by Ad Providers to calculate the number of unique and repeat views of dynamic in game advertising. The id number is not associated with any personal data. No logged information is used to personally identify you. The servers used by the Ad Providers may be located outside your country of residence. If you reside in a Member State of the European Union, the servers may be located outside of the European Union. This ad serving technology is integrated into the game; if you do not want to use this technology, do not play the game while connected to the Internet. For more information concerning Massive Incorporated, please visit http://www.massiveincorporated.com. For more information concerning IGA Worldwide Inc., please visit www.igaworldwide.com.
http://legal.ea.com/legal/legal.jsp?language=en

Sims 3 To Have In-Game Advertising ~ http://industry.bnet.com/advertising/1000252/iga-scores-more-in-game-advertising-for-sims-3/

Check out the GAMERS BILL OF RIGHTS, championed by Game Developer http://www.stardock.com/about/newsitem.asp?id=1095

EA Creates Revisionist History on Wikipedia

EA's Rip Off Report

EA's Abysmal Record from the Better Business Bureau

Will be updated as I find/research more... PM me with anything u find, and i'll add it to the list

shinu1729 wrote:I clicked this thread thinking it was a discussion of ghostbusters in spore. I guess mythbusters is pretty cool too.