The parts of Spore that are broken are gameplay issues that run deep and involve the gameplay philosophy. "Fixing" Spore would require a reworking from the ground up, which is not happening.

Amazeron wrote:The parts of Spore that are broken are gameplay issues that run deep and involve the gameplay philosophy. "Fixing" Spore would require a reworking from the ground up, which is not happening.

My thoughts as well. This game is beyond repair because the sheer framework of it is broken.

theultimateend wrote:

Amazeron wrote:The parts of Spore that are broken are gameplay issues that run deep and involve the gameplay philosophy. "Fixing" Spore would require a reworking from the ground up, which is not happening.

My thoughts as well. This game is beyond repair because the sheer framework of it is broken.

Seconded...

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I have a game crashing now because I deleted a creature that I made a mistake on. You'd think they'dve thought of that stuff...

EA rules the game bussiness right now, but after spore release it's fame is going down and down. so if ea doesn't fix the problems in spore i guees that they go to the bottom of the pit.
and that would be a very lame endding of EA, we are trying to help them by saying were are the problems, and what they could add, but it seems to me that they are making fun of us by trying to help them :S

Im so disillusioned by what they've done to spore that ive gotten to the point where i dont care any more. I used to come to point out how they could fix an inherently broken game, but im afraid that there is no point. Frankly i dont CARE about the new patch that they're putting out. Sure they're fixing the profile problem... But then if no one in my plays the game then there is no point in more of us being able to do it. I'm disappointed, and its not just with spore or EA, its with the whole gaming industry. The fact is it feels like theres nothing really good out there, because whenever someone comes along with a great idea for a game, its hacked to pieces. So game companies just keep churning out the same stuff that worked before. We may never get anything truly innovative. Even my beloved J-rpgs seem trite, since the plot and characters are all call backs to previous games.

renlar wrote:Im so disillusioned by what they've done to spore that ive gotten to the point where i dont care any more. I used to come to point out how they could fix an inherently broken game, but im afraid that there is no point. Frankly i dont CARE about the new patch that they're putting out. Sure they're fixing the profile problem... But then if no one in my plays the game then there is no point in more of us being able to do it. I'm disappointed, and its not just with spore or EA, its with the whole gaming industry. The fact is it feels like theres nothing really good out there, because whenever someone comes along with a great idea for a game, its hacked to pieces. So game companies just keep churning out the same stuff that worked before. We may never get anything truly innovative. Even my beloved J-rpgs seem trite, since the plot and characters are all call backs to previous games.

/me holds the digital you and cries.

Yeah I think this is the last weekend I'll be posting here .

if you're gone ultimate, you better well add me as a friend on xbox! i come back to see what you're up to

PlasteredDragon wrote:I note on xfire Spoor is now being played less than Halo. That's Halo #1, mind you.

A game that has been around for SEVEN YEARS is still comparatively more interesting to the gaming community than a game a month old.

Nice work EA/Maxis. Got yourselves a real winner in Spoor.

Enjoy my $50. I hope it was worth it, because it's the last money you'll ever see from this gamer.

What.. the.. hell, are you on CRACK? sir you ,ust truly, absoluetly TRULY be on crack. Just on the creature creator alone, within a week, they surpassed the number of species on earth. Now i'm not guessing that Chinese "creature farmers" have anything to do with this, but come on this game has only been out for like what? Two months? a month? WAIT FOR THE FREAKING UPDATES and then if you still don't like it, THEN you can SPORE about it. in the meantime, SHUT UP

I couldn't agree with you guys more.


I was following Spore's development for years, eagerly anticipating its release...

Not only have I been bitterly disappointed by the final product, I've been even more disappointed with Maxis/EA's response to the community and their pathetic attempts to "support" this game's continuing development post-release.


Spore had so much potential...so much potential......

Instead, it's become one of the greatest tragedies in the history of gaming; All that incredible work that went on under the hood to make unprecedented creation tools wasted and untapped in a game with mind-bogglingly little depth.

Indeed, someone said it before and I'll say it again: Spore has less depth than the Sims.

HungryMocha wrote:

PlasteredDragon wrote:I note on xfire Spoor is now being played less than Halo. That's Halo #1, mind you.

A game that has been around for SEVEN YEARS is still comparatively more interesting to the gaming community than a game a month old.

Nice work EA/Maxis. Got yourselves a real winner in Spoor.

Enjoy my $50. I hope it was worth it, because it's the last money you'll ever see from this gamer.

What.. the.. hell, are you on CRACK? sir you ,ust truly, absoluetly TRULY be on crack. Just on the creature creator alone, within a week, they surpassed the number of species on earth. Now i'm not guessing that Chinese "creature farmers" have anything to do with this, but come on this game has only been out for like what? Two months? a month? WAIT FOR THE FREAKING UPDATES and then if you still don't like it, THEN you can SPORE about it. in the meantime, SHUT UP

"To date, taxonomists have identified less than two million distinct species, mostly mammals and birds. But it's estimated that the number of undiscovered species—primarily fish, fungi, insects, and microbes—ranges from ten million to more than one hundred million. Even at the low estimate, it's an enormous number."

""Imagine doing chemistry knowing only one third of the periodic table," said biologist Terry Gosliner. "Sure, it can be done, but with an immense handicap. We are trying to do biology knowing perhaps only a tenth, or one hundredth, of our species. It is an immense handicap that does not need to exist.""

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/03/0305_0305_allspecies.html

Then you take into account, 30 million creations split amongst even just 200k people would have been 150 creatures a person. That's not even a weekend for a few of the folks here.

I rated you a one because of your ignorance in that post, be it both for the known species of the Earth, and for the small amount of creations compared to the amount of people owning the product.

Especially considering the current game considers recolors of a creature to be a new creature. There is one guy here with a different color of his creature for every possible color option on the creator. It's called "Ball of color" or something like that.

I do think the game can be fixed. I do think Maxis has a chance to redeem itself.

However, whether or not Spore gets fixed and made into something that actually supports story sharing, one thing is certain. The only way I will ever buy another Maxis title is if they completely break all ties with EA. I will never buy another EA related title again, period.

I bought the game not just because it had Will Wrights name on it, but also because the concept was astounding. I couldn't have imagined a more complex and impressive game!

Unfortunately, there seems to be developers who think that in order for a game to be fun it has to be blindingly simple (read trivial). Will Wright had the right idea from the start, and he knows what makes a game fun (they're complex, but that's why SimCity 4 and the Sims are fun). In this case, however, he was overruled, and this Spore was created.

Amazeron wrote:The parts of Spore that are broken are gameplay issues that run deep and involve the gameplay philosophy. "Fixing" Spore would require a reworking from the ground up, which is not happening.

I know this is most likely the case, but I will still maintain hope that something can be done.

It depends on what you mean by "fix". Turning it into the game it should have been, based on demonstrations in previous years, yes this would take far too much work to make happen. If, on the other hand, you mean turning it into the "storytelling" game it's supposed to be (but fails at), it's quite fixable. For the sake of creating and sharing my stories, there are only one or two things that would require anything more than a patch.

PlasteredDragon wrote:Enjoy my $50. I hope it was worth it, because it's the last money you'll ever see from this gamer.

Yes, same here. I haven't bought an EA game in years with the exception of Spore. It reminded me why I avoid EA games.

theultimateend wrote:Yeah I think this is the last weekend I'll be posting here .

I feel the same way. I've lost hope in Spore. With the thought of stuff packs coming out every 2 months, a laundry list of game problems, and such poor design (seriously, hunting for body parts strewn about the ground is one of the worst game design decisions ever) I've gotten tired of how repetitive things are. I haven't even hit 50 hours and I'm pretty much done. There are far better games out there that need attention.

fundamentally, indeed it cannot be fixed... there´s no way that in THIS version of the game they can revert it to include creature morphology that matters, fully simulated ecossystems and whatnot...


i believe, however, that with some major key changes, it is possible to make this Spore far more evolved as a game....

...even enough to make it a lot closer to what it SHOULD HAVE BEEN