Plants instead of Animals, Animals instead of plants, is that even possible?

ashkelon wrote:I've had herps since I was a kid

I nearly read that in a totally different way.

OneBlackbird wrote:

ashkelon wrote:I've had herps since I was a kid

I nearly read that in a totally different way.

I am entirely certain that you did. As to the madlib, I do not, thank you.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=first-evidence-found-insect-photosynthesis

Relevant.

Relevant indeed, but those aphids are hardly closer to becoming autotrophs than we are. After all, we make our own vitamin D from sunlight. It would really be interesting though to see if we could force aphids to become autotrophs by feeding them sugarfree juice.

Very interesting article. I've watched ants tending aphids many times. I'll be interested in what they publish.

On phrase in the article left me in giggles... it came right after the aphic-crushing discussion, and yes, I know I'm juvenile sometimes but....

"the findings certainly throw up that possibility."

I kept thinking or more seemly verbs.

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If my mother sun bathes, does that make her a plant?

It makes as much sense as the idea of plants eating flies makes them animals.

StinkyPachem wrote:If my mother sun bathes, does that make her a plant?

It makes as much sense as the idea of plants eating flies makes them animals.

That's not quite what the OP said... it said that plants have demonstrated the ability to move and react to stimuli, while animals have demonstrated the ability not to. The OP was just wondering if that could go any further, as far as I can tell.

Still, I think it would be a bit of a stretch for plants to become sentient. It's not entirely out of the question, though....

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Mhm.

On Alien worlds, the plant/animal line may blur even further.

Coral polyps & Euglena are simply enough to profoundly blur that line, but something more complex might be difficult.
Although, vestigal leaves could make good mating dance material.

StinkyPachem wrote:If my mother sun bathes, does that make her a plant?

It makes as much sense as the idea of plants eating flies makes them animals.

your mother can sunbathe, but does she have to sunbathe to survive?

The sun is healthy for the body, try living in a cave the rest of your life, even with food and water supplies. I guarantee your lifespan will exponentially shorten.

ZorchyGroxFox wrote:

StinkyPachem wrote:If my mother sun bathes, does that make her a plant?

It makes as much sense as the idea of plants eating flies makes them animals.

That's not quite what the OP said... it said that plants have demonstrated the ability to move and react to stimuli, while animals have demonstrated the ability not to. The OP was just wondering if that could go any further, as far as I can tell.

Still, I think it would be a bit of a stretch for plants to become sentient. It's not entirely out of the question, though....

When have I ever implied that's what the OP said? It's a response to all the kids that think venus fly traps are on the verge of becoming animals.

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StinkyPachem wrote:The sun is healthy for the body, try living in a cave the rest of your life, even with food and water supplies. I guarantee your lifespan will exponentially shorten.

ZorchyGroxFox wrote:

StinkyPachem wrote:If my mother sun bathes, does that make her a plant?

It makes as much sense as the idea of plants eating flies makes them animals.

That's not quite what the OP said... it said that plants have demonstrated the ability to move and react to stimuli, while animals have demonstrated the ability not to. The OP was just wondering if that could go any further, as far as I can tell.

Still, I think it would be a bit of a stretch for plants to become sentient. It's not entirely out of the question, though....

When have I ever implied that's what the OP said? It's a response to all the kids that think venus fly traps are on the verge of becoming animals.

Ok, can your mother live with just sunlight and not food or water?

and I wouldn't call God-Mod a kid; he probably knows a lot more than you do.

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I get a little tired of seeing these ideas get shot at. The OP suggested that the line between plants and animals could have blurred if things had happened differently, and maybe could be blurred on an alien planet, and I see some people here go "no that couldn't happen because venus flytraps are not even close to animals and my mom can sunbathe so there"... you're totally missing the point.

cpelite wrote:On Alien worlds, the plant/animal line may blur even further.

Coral polyps & Euglena are simply enough to profoundly blur that line, but something more complex might be difficult.
Although, vestigal leaves could make good mating dance material.

THIS^ is the getting the point.

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ZorchyGroxFox wrote:I get a little tired of seeing these ideas get shot at. The OP suggested that the line between plants and animals could have blurred if things had happened differently, and maybe could be blurred on an alien planet, and I see some people here go "no that couldn't happen because venus flytraps are not even close to animals and my mom can sunbathe so there"... you're totally missing the point.

I don't think you're getting my point.

MaxxToron wrote:

StinkyPachem wrote:The sun is healthy for the body, try living in a cave the rest of your life, even with food and water supplies. I guarantee your lifespan will exponentially shorten.

ZorchyGroxFox wrote:

StinkyPachem wrote:If my mother sun bathes, does that make her a plant?

It makes as much sense as the idea of plants eating flies makes them animals.

That's not quite what the OP said... it said that plants have demonstrated the ability to move and react to stimuli, while animals have demonstrated the ability not to. The OP was just wondering if that could go any further, as far as I can tell.

Still, I think it would be a bit of a stretch for plants to become sentient. It's not entirely out of the question, though....

When have I ever implied that's what the OP said? It's a response to all the kids that think venus fly traps are on the verge of becoming animals.

Ok, can your mother live with just sunlight and not food or water?

and I wouldn't call God-Mod a kid; he probably knows a lot more than you do.

That question doesn't even seem relevant to what I said. If I'm getting you correctly, then plants can't live with soil or water either, what's your point? Further, I've never even implied that God-Mod was the user I was referring to, and not to mention you do not even know me well enough to make that assumption. Going by the two things you just said, I can tell a lot about your own intelligence.

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StinkyPachem wrote:

ZorchyGroxFox wrote:I get a little tired of seeing these ideas get shot at. The OP suggested that the line between plants and animals could have blurred if things had happened differently, and maybe could be blurred on an alien planet, and I see some people here go "no that couldn't happen because venus flytraps are not even close to animals and my mom can sunbathe so there"... you're totally missing the point.

I don't think you're getting my point.

MaxxToron wrote:

StinkyPachem wrote:The sun is healthy for the body, try living in a cave the rest of your life, even with food and water supplies. I guarantee your lifespan will exponentially shorten.

ZorchyGroxFox wrote:

StinkyPachem wrote:If my mother sun bathes, does that make her a plant?

It makes as much sense as the idea of plants eating flies makes them animals.

That's not quite what the OP said... it said that plants have demonstrated the ability to move and react to stimuli, while animals have demonstrated the ability not to. The OP was just wondering if that could go any further, as far as I can tell.

Still, I think it would be a bit of a stretch for plants to become sentient. It's not entirely out of the question, though....

When have I ever implied that's what the OP said? It's a response to all the kids that think venus fly traps are on the verge of becoming animals.

Ok, can your mother live with just sunlight and not food or water?

and I wouldn't call God-Mod a kid; he probably knows a lot more than you do.

That question doesn't even seem relevant to what I said. If I'm getting you correctly, then plants can't live with soil or water either, what's your point? Further, I've never even implied that God-Mod was the user I was referring to, and not to mention you do not even know me well enough to make that assumption. Going by the two things you just said, I can tell a lot about your own intelligence.

No, you actually can't. Wait until you have more data before drawing confrontational conclusions such as that one. Further, if he doesn't know you well enough to draw conclusions about your intelligence, what makes you think you know enough about him to do the same?

But not to go off topic... I still think that the lines between all the kingdoms could be blurred on alien planets. With only one planet in our sample, life as we know it may not be the same thing as life as it is.

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If someone asks or says (or maybe even a combination of both) two ridiculous questions or statements, I am frequently able to conclude that specific individual isn't considerably bright. Or an "idiot" in lame man terms.

I call it deductive reasoning.