starkfist wrote:
I sent no prayer, although I did make a relatively reasonable complaint to their customer service.

And achieved how much, exactly?

My main point was that you are spending way too much time, energy and rage on a video game.

Me? You're the one spending your time responding to threads for no reason. I'm posting because I think their policy is a problem. you're posting because..... you're.... bored? Or maybe because you *like* the restrictions?
In either case, I don't think I'm the one who needs to be worried about how much time I'm spending on this.

Don't post angry, and they won't have a reason to suspend/ban your account.

You sound like it'd worry me if I got banned. I've already played the game for a couple of days. I don't need to play it more right now.

They are increasing the number of machines it can be installed on simultaneously from 3 to 5, and are adding a option to deauthorize computers- which essentially removes the install limits. Very few complained that they could only install it on 3 computers at once- what people were concerned about was that reinstalls, such as after a OS refresh or hardware upgrade, would be counted toward the 3-install limit.

Welcome to EA. Bend-over and enjoy the ride.

If you're really worried, there are ways around it. Outsmarting EA isn't exactly difficult.

Jesus, this is ridiculous, they should just ban you from the forums, not ban you from the game, for complaining.

Now if you posted SPORE on here, then banning you from the game would be acceptable, but not if you are just complaining about an outrageous anti-pirating tactic they are using.

Edit: (The word whose definition is a media where adults "display their love" is replaced by the word spore)

LOL- ok, you win. Cry more and make them do it your way! Scream, shake your little fists, and hold your breath until you turn blue. Then EA will listen to you for sure! By all means, don't act like an adult.

Well, this thread is starting to turn into the troll/flame threads they keep deleting. This one is probably going to get deleted also.
I understand players frustration, and will again post a link to a forum dedicated to secuRom. Where you can vent/discuss/debate the issues freely. I am not for or against DRM, but am trying to help players to not get banned.
And maybe a moderator could explain if the ban is from the forum, or the spore site and online sharing. As I think they are seperate...I could be wrong
http://secusphere.com/smf/

battsknox wrote:s freely. I am not for or against DRM, but am trying to help players to not get banned.
And maybe a moderator could explain if the ban is from the forum, or the spore site and online sharing. As I think they are seperate...I could be wrong
http://secusphere.com/smf/

Um, they said that already. That's why I posted this thread. The thread I linked to said pretty explicitly that discussing DRM on this forum can lead to your being banned from the game, and having to buy a new copy of Spore. So I think perhaps you should have read the thread I linked to before accusing anyone of trolling.

Cry more and make them do it your way! Scream, shake your little fists, and hold your breath until you turn blue. Then EA will listen to you for sure! By all means, don't act like an adult.

What you call "acting like an adult" (in other words, sucking it up, and keep paying EA more money) is what gave us Spore's DRM in the first place.

And you know what? So far the only thing that has managed to make EA back down on DRM is, in your words, "screaming and shaking your little fists". So yes, if it's ok with you, I think I'll continue to do what EA has already shown they notice.

People "shaking their little fists" got Mass Effect's DRM loosened a bit. People "shaking their little fists" has so far given us two additional installs on Spore. We *know* that this strategy makes EA listen.
Which smashing victories can your strategy of "sucking it up and not really doing anything much to show we don't like the DRM" report?

If it doesn't worry you, why post about it? And even if they ban your account, you can still play the game offline. You just won't be able to share your creations with the world.

Because I think it's a ridiculous business practice, and I hope they'll change it in the future. And because others may be interested in knowing about this.

Yup, I'm bored and wandering around the forums. I'm responding to you because you're a goofball and I think you are misguided and misinformed. Of course, I shouldn't respond to your post unless I agree 100% with you, right?

I didn't say you shouldn't respond. I'm just saying that if you do respond, and the only thing you have to say is that I should go get some fresh air, don't accuse *me* of making pointless posts or wasting my time. At least I had a relevant point to make.

They haven't released exactly how they will implement the deauthorization procedure. It might suck or it might work. You are jumping to conclusions

So are you. I'm just saying that they haven't yet solved this problem. Therefore it is still a problem. Yes, they may at some point in the future solve it, but then you are the one jumping to conclusions. I'm talking about how it works *now*, and what they have promised to do. That is, what we *know*.
You are talking about what you hope they'll do.

But once again, this has nothing to do with the thread. This thread was about their apparent policy of banning you from the *game* for discussing DRM on the *forum*. Not about DRM. Thanks for trying to change the subject into something that *will* get the thread closed.

Um, they said that already. That's why I posted this thread. The thread I linked to said pretty explicitly that discussing DRM on this forum can lead to your being banned from the game, and having to buy a new copy of Spore. So I think perhaps you should have read the thread I linked to before accusing anyone of trolling.

I DID read that and it says IN SOME CASES it could require another purchase of the game, so there you go. I was hoping for a little clarification, not arguing the DRM issue, in ANY way.
And I was not accusing ANY ONE in particular for trolling/flaming...and I used both terms, trying to be non partisan on the DRM/no DRM argument.

First let's calm down. There seems to be a mis-communication issue somewhere. It is okay to discuss issues on this forum as long as it's done in a respectful manner and there are no personal attacks. This includes the DRM and other controversial issues. Just keep it civil.

As moderators, we're here to help and keep things on track, we're not here to censor discussions unless things get rude and offense. We moderate by the forum guidelines that are publicly posted. I've been gone for a week but I'm trying to catch up on what's been going on.

Just know that we are here to help and even if we don't have an answer, we do listen.

^ agreed

blazur wrote:Integrity at it's best. No wonder EA has such a stigma among gamers.

Well, there was a time when Electronic Arts, to me, meant, "This game is gonna ROCK!" Seriously. Some of my fondest memories of gaming--and I've been gaming since my age was in the single digits, back in the scary old 1980s--came from EA games.

But ever since their logo stopped being this:


...I've stopped enjoying their products.
I'm not saying the logo controlled anything, but...it marks time, and the time I dug EA games like a backhoe was when their logo was that.

I mean, c'mon...Archon, The Bard's Tale, Populous, Mail-Order Monsters, Wasteland, etc...these were games that put EA on the map for me. But since those days...ehhh...I see the EA logo, and I worry that what I'm about to play may well be crap.

...and that's to say nothing at all with EA policies, just game quality.

wow EA, way to make your customers feel like crap...

Geesh guys, as others have said, calm down.

As said, discuss things in a mature and responsible manner and I think you will see things not disappear.

While seeing someone "threatened" about being banned does not seem to be all that customer service friendly if it was a maxis or EA employee then that someone needs a boot in the butt. If it was a volunteer sporemaster then they need to re-read their forum monitor rules.

I also think it's a given that everyone on these forums understands the general opinion of SecurROm and other similar programs. So try and keep things civil peeps.


Deeeeeeeeep Breath.

tyger42 wrote:

jalf wrote:

tyger42 wrote:No, you can lose your account for posting the thousandth thread trolling about the same gorram topic yet again after the mods have told us to stop. There are a thousand other threads to safely discuss it in that already exist, we don't need new ones.

So they're allowed to withdraw the product I paid for because of that?

Yes. And it's perfectly legal. You might try reading contracts when you agree to them.

I'm just wondering where in the SPORE's EULA can you read that (if it is the contract you are talking about)...

It's pretty much like a store or restaurant. They have a right to deny you service. And it is spelled out in their EULA. Sure you can still play their game offline. But if you want the full effect you have to log onto the servers they are supplying the universe with. That gives them a right to deny you access.

O and I still find it quite funny that if people don't like what you say they give you one star....like that invalidates the post......NOT.

You all are too funy...

Cysgodi wrote:It's pretty much like a store or restaurant. They have a right to deny you service. And it is spelled out in their EULA. Sure you can still play their game offline. But if you want the full effect you have to log onto the servers they are supplying the universe with. That gives them a right to deny you access.

O and I still find it quite funny that if people don't like what you say they give you one star....like that invalidates the post......NOT.

You all are too funy...

you make a good point