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Imperiex-prime


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Zombies are not possible as far as I know, lots of problems with the theories I guess.....

Now, zomdies on the other hand, those are far more likely. I mean, Mcdonalds is the proof zomdies are real, I mean they feed us zomdie burgers that never rot, it is only a matter of time their experiments move on to us humans.

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"Zombism", I shall now call it, is probably not even rotting flesh, but a parasite taking complete control of your brain. Like rabies. But the parasite, such as all bacteria needs to spread and to do that, they bite being to spread the bacteria. So this can make it even more dangerous because you can never be too sure by lookng at them unless they're trying to bite you.

This is only a thought but it may be possible. Please quote if you have any suggestions or critique on this idea.

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flametitan wrote:Give it person to eat and get it over with.


But now their primary prey is also their primary method of reproduction and their primary predator. If they eat each other they're too busy cannibalizing one another to threaten the remaining humans. If they eat humans, their prey is deviously smart and much more dangerous than the "predator" itself.

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StinkyPachem wrote:"Zombism", I shall now call it, is probably not even rotting flesh, but a parasite taking complete control of your brain. Like rabies. But the parasite, such as all bacteria needs to spread and to do that, they bite being to spread the bacteria. So this can make it even more dangerous because you can never be too sure by lookng at them unless they're trying to bite you.

This is only a thought but it may be possible. Please quote if you have any suggestions or critique on this idea.


I could see a type of fungal/parasite type organism take over the nervous system of its host, just enough to make it walk around, and then give off spores to any humans that get close to it. Perhaps it is able to use its sense of smell, sight, and hearing to a certain degree, and wants to give more spores to humans.

To me, that sounds more likely then a zombie trying to bite you and stuff, this is much more simple, just lumber around, instead of having to chase down those pesky, fast, and way smarter humans down to bite them.

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A parasitic zombie would not pose much of a threat to humanity because It wouldn't have any knowledge about how to use it's body, unless the host is still "alive" but acting entirely on instinct influenced by it's parasite. Even if that were to happen, The 'zombie' would be able to be killed rather quickly by any organized military force. Thus, unless the parasite can reproduce and spread quickly it's unlikely that The zombies themselves would be a threat.

Now, If a disease were to come into existence (wether by human manufacturing or some form of natural mutation) that would just make humans insane, so they kept their muscle memory, ability to use their body and knowledge of the way machines like guns work then we might have a problem, unless the infection was quarantined.

Also, some people were discussing animal zombies earlier: It really wouldn't mattter if an animal with a more powerful bite got infected, because they wouldn't be any more of a threat than they are now, because a wild animal will still hunt for food, it would just be less discriminatory about what it eats. It's the spreading of the bacteria that would be the problem, and having a more powerfully biting host would be irrelevant as Humans could easily kill the zombified animals.

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Now remember, there is a parasite called a fluke, I forget the whole name, just remember the fluke is in its name.

Now, it has a really complicated life cycle, I will not get into each part of the cycle, but one part that may be interesting. It has to do with ants. The parasite makes its way into the ants brain, controls the ant and makes it leave its nest, climb up a blade of grass at evening, bite the end of the blade of grass, and wait till an animal eats the grass. If no animal comes by during the evening, it basically lets the ant go back to its colony. The sun would kill the ant and parasite, so the parasite lets the ant keep it alive. Evening comes, it takes the ant back there, until finally it is eaten. It could take days of going back and forth, controlling the ant, and letting the ant take it back to the colony to keep it safe, before it is eaten.

If a parasite can control an organism with six legs into climbing a blade of grass, then bite the blade of grass and hang there for days, I think a parasite can control a bipedal human into lumbering about, at the very least.

Humans brains are far more complicated, yes, but it is being done in the animal kingdom right now as we speak, so I would not throw that out completely yet.

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It is called the Lancet liver fluke, so look it up if you do not believe me.

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Zombies would be dead bodies reanimated.

It is certainly possible to revive a body after it was considered dead--giving jolts to restart the beating of hearts is an example. So I suppose you could consider anyone who has had heart shock treatment a zombie.

But all of the stuff about coming back, mutilated bodies, eating other bodies? Why would that happen?

If a body was mutilated, or even jsut dead for too long, you could not reanimate it, at least not with current technology.

And what would be their incentive for eating human flesh? Bah, silly people. The only zombies are cacturne, and they are firmly ingrained in the pokemon world.

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Zombies could only be reanimated by a parasite or a DNA renewal and Heart-shock thing

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CAMPFIRE STORY!

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StinkyPachem wrote:"Zombism", I shall now call it, is probably not even rotting flesh, but a parasite taking complete control of your brain. Like rabies. But the parasite, such as all bacteria needs to spread and to do that, they bite being to spread the bacteria. So this can make it even more dangerous because you can never be too sure by lookng at them unless they're trying to bite you.

This is only a thought but it may be possible. Please quote if you have any suggestions or critique on this idea.
Strange, that people affected by Zombism are not zombies:
Dictionary.Com wrote:
–noun
1.
(in voodoo)
a.
the body of a dead person given the semblance of life, but mute and will-less, by a supernatural force, usually for some evil purpose.
b.
the supernatural force itself.
2.
Informal .
a.
a person whose behavior or responses are wooden, listless, or seemingly rote; automaton.
b.
an eccentric or peculiar person.
3.
a snake god worshiped in West Indian and Brazilian religious practices of African origin.
4.
a tall drink made typically with several kinds of rum, citrus juice, and often apricot liqueur.
5.
Canadian Slang . an army conscript assigned to home defense during World War II.


I guess you could possibly twist 2a into a parasite, if you ignore the ravenous hunger.

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Being brought back from the dead like that does not make you a zombie. Zombism started, as far as I know, from practices in Haiti, when a shaman would give a villager a mixture of herbs to stop their heart and breathing rate to almost nothing, they would appear dead. The villagers would bury them, but their low heart and breathing rate meant they used Oxygen up slower, giving the shaman time to dig up and "resurrect" the poor villager, now a zombie and "undead" slave to the shaman. I am sure the shaman found a sneaky way of getting them to drink their concoction, so they never knew they were drugged, and so thought they were zombies, remembering dying, then being revived by the shaman in their grave, no less.

Now zombies in stories may have started earlier then that, but that was when it was practiced I am fairly sure.

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Imperiex-prime wrote:Being brought back from the dead like that does not make you a zombie. Zombism started, as far as I know, from practices in Haiti, when a shaman would give a villager a mixture of herbs to stop their heart and breathing rate to almost nothing, they would appear dead. The villagers would bury them, but their low heart and breathing rate meant they used Oxygen up slower, giving the shaman time to dig up and "resurrect" the poor villager, now a zombie and "undead" slave to the shaman. I am sure the shaman found a sneaky way of getting them to drink their concoction, so they never knew they were drugged, and so thought they were zombies, remembering dying, then being revived by the shaman in their grave, no less.

Now zombies in stories may have started earlier then that, but that was when it was practiced I am fairly sure.


They use fish liver and rub it on the doorknob of the person. The worst part is, in Haiti, they use a needle to the eye to check if you're dead. You can't move or react at all but you can feel the pain...

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Has noone noticed that all diseases that could seriously want to harm someone will go away and that infections attack vital parts of the body ending in death or be weak enough just to give up on life without meds most of the time

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drapion60 wrote:Has noone noticed that all diseases that could seriously want to harm someone will go away and that infections attack vital parts of the body ending in death or be weak enough just to give up on life without meds most of the time

I do not understand this.

And the Haitian zombies are the only real type. All others are stupid campfire stories, and this thread goes to prove why Thomas said that S&S section was declining.

 
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