EdCase512 wrote:Actually his name is Hecker (no L)

Right you are! Thank you for the correction!

Visko wrote:182 to 16 says a lot even just right now. I guess they really DIDN'T know what they were doing

In fact im going to link this thread in my sig

Sadly with over one million box sales recorded to date. It makes the (poll) numbers insignificant. The silent majority (non-forum/lurkers) wins once again.

Visko wrote:182 to 16 says a lot even just right now. I guess they really DIDN'T know what they were doing

76% of us want o play Science Spore.

What boggles me is that this seems to mean NOTHING to Maxis. Apparently.
Will Wright should be jumping up and down right now, shouting, "See? See???" and firing the living daylights out of a whole bunch of people, and giving US just cause to pop champagne corks...but no.

Does anyone else kinna feel more than a little betrayed?
Maxis: first against the wall when the revolution came.

RocketGirl wrote:

Visko wrote:182 to 16 says a lot even just right now. I guess they really DIDN'T know what they were doing

76% of us want o play Science Spore.

What boggles me is that this seems to mean NOTHING to Maxis. Apparently.
Will Wright should be jumping up and down right now, shouting, "See? See???" and firing the living daylights out of a whole bunch of people, and giving US just cause to pop champagne corks...but no.

Does anyone else kinna feel more than a little betrayed?
Maxis: first against the wall when the revolution came.

76% of less than 1% of recorded box sales. Not really an impressive number RG. Get 76% of recorded box purchasers on your team and they'd pay attention.
Not to say I don't agree with you on an intellectual level. But cold facts make for depressing reading don't they ?

EdCase512 wrote:

Visko wrote:182 to 16 says a lot even just right now. I guess they really DIDN'T know what they were doing

In fact im going to link this thread in my sig

Sadly with over one million box sales recorded to date. It makes the (poll) numbers insignificant. The silent majority (non-forum/lurkers) wins once again.

i bet a lot of people who bought the game bought what they thought was going to be the science spore they were promised. the number of sales doesn't tell you what the buyers were expecting.

its a horrible idea to do this early.. they'll just probably wait a few years to make a expansion like this.. 2 spore pc games early if it happens.. monkeys will grow wings and attack KFC... its just a bad idea period.

as others have said and i've thought of as well. there are 2 sides to the spore fan base, casual and 'hardcore'. well if profit is your motivation, and we all know it is because you're owned by yet another greedy company, not your fault. anyways, if profit is the bottom line, and your fans are divided, don't pick a side, give them both! you'll make that much more money. just like picking the difficulty level you should have the option (option being a key thing to a game with supposedly limitlessly creativity) of "science/hardcore" game or the "casual/kiddie" game. then we all have both Spores in one super Spore! the people who are complaining aren't people whom hate the game and never wanna play it, if that was so, we wouldn't waste our time on the forums trying to get it fixed. we complain out of love. we want this to be all that it can be, it's tough love. we love you evolution, we love you games. but work with your fans, take our advice, or you won't be taking our money.

Catering to the lowest common denominator worked with LocoRoco, it's a puzzle game, a cute puzzle game.

With spore, it's just an insult, to have RTS, RPG, CIV elements, etc, all feeling like that if they were isolated, they'd be nothing more than a free internet game.

Not to mention giving us a glimpse of something different to begin with.

RocketGirl wrote:

Visko wrote:182 to 16 says a lot even just right now. I guess they really DIDN'T know what they were doing

76% of us want o play Science Spore.

What boggles me is that this seems to mean NOTHING to Maxis. Apparently.
Will Wright should be jumping up and down right now, shouting, "See? See???" and firing the living daylights out of a whole bunch of people, and giving US just cause to pop champagne corks...but no.

Does anyone else kinna feel more than a little betrayed?
Maxis: first against the wall when the revolution came.

It takes time for big entities to move. Give Maxis time. Like any large entity, they'll be split on the matter for personal reasons, but the majority will shift.

And my god, we finally found who to blame for the gameplay half of this whole controversy. I'm guessing a lot of people are getting the tar and feathers right now. This guy made a mistake that permanently damaged seven years of work from Maxis. I'm more than a little angry.

SPYDR wrote:

EdCase512 wrote:

Visko wrote:182 to 16 says a lot even just right now. I guess they really DIDN'T know what they were doing

In fact im going to link this thread in my sig

Sadly with over one million box sales recorded to date. It makes the (poll) numbers insignificant. The silent majority (non-forum/lurkers) wins once again.

i bet a lot of people who bought the game bought what they thought was going to be the science spore they were promised. the number of sales doesn't tell you what the buyers were expecting.

Neither does apathy and silence. No matter how you perceive reality..there are still less than 1% of recorded sales being represented. Not enough for anyone to take notice.

if you expect a video game to be like previews that are like a year old.. then you must be new to video games

EdCase512 wrote:Not enough for anyone to take notice.

Except that we've been assured that the developers and programmers are reading the forums.

*shrugs*

Neruu wrote:if you expect a video game to be like previews that are like a year old.. then you must be new to video games

The point is that it is "like" the previews a year old, but downsized, not changed, just downsized, even in 2005, I can still see what we have now.

Neruu wrote:if you expect a video game to be like previews that are like a year old.. then you must be new to video games

Kid, I've been playing video games ever since K-mart started selling Pong consoles. There's "development changes" and then there's "misleading the customer". In time, you too will learn the difference.

Voted 'yes'. I'd be behind this entirely.