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Xenopologist


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terrapod wrote:therory is a theory no matter the label


That's where you're wrong.

Most people use "theory" to mean a conjecture based on loose or circumstantial evidence; often it's used as a stand-in for "elaborate guess". In fields of scientific inquiry, for a proposition to be labeled a theory at all suggests a great deal of experimental evidence and peer revision is behind it.

A scientific theory carries far more weight than my friend's "theories" about alien abduction, and since this is the science section, the difference matters to us.

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so does that mean that the scientfic theory about the dinos going extinct from lack of sleep, carry much wieght?
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Depending on the amount of evidence behind it.

I can understand your concerns, terra. If it assuages you any, I'm a Christian and have no trouble with the theory of evolution. Granted, I'm also not the most knowledgeable about science, so take what I say with a pillar of salt (BAHAHA) but arguments on here aren't the way to solving things.

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SilentEpiphany wrote:Depending on the amount of evidence behind it.

I can understand your concerns, terra. If it assuages you any, I'm a Christian and have no trouble with the theory of evolution. Granted, I'm also not the most knowledgeable about science, so take what I say with a pillar of salt (BAHAHA) but arguments on here aren't the way to solving things.


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terrapod wrote:
ZhaoYun9 wrote:
terrapod wrote:yall got to remember evolution is still a theory, not scientific law

vampriess, on the first pg you have to remember at the time in the area people believe that the host should protect his guest no matter what, even at the cost of his own family,
and also im religious, now do you think if theres a god powerful enough to make the universe and earth and people, and to as in numbers 23:28 "then the Lord open the donkey's mouth, and she said to Balaam, 'what have i done to make you beat me three times?'" then do you think that this god could stop inbreeding deformities till people were no longer related?


...A "scientific theory" is not the same as the common, G-pop term for "theory'

Gravity and a host of other things are theoiries too.

Scientific Theory =/= Conspiracy theory



pistol and a gun,
a pistol is more exact then a gun.... therory is a theory no matter the label


Uh, no it isn't a common usage theory is VERY different from a scientific theory, don't post again until you finish high school biology, with a "B" at least.

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.
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terrapod wrote:so does that mean that the scientfic theory about the dinos going extinct from lack of sleep, carry much wieght?
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terrapod wrote:
terrapod wrote:so does that mean that the scientfic theory about the dinos going extinct from lack of sleep, carry much wieght?


It means that a poorly funded educational system has doomed you to a life of ignorance. At least you still have all that bliss.



The scientific community really needs a new word to replace "theory" since nobody seems to grasp the concept.

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Slyth33 wrote:
terrapod wrote:
terrapod wrote:so does that mean that the scientfic theory about the dinos going extinct from lack of sleep, carry much wieght?


It means that a poorly funded educational system has doomed you to a life of ignorance. At least you still have all that bliss.



The scientific community really needs a new word to replace "theory" since nobody seems to grasp the concept.


I've recommended this Sagan book before, and it's an entertaining read, aimed at people who need to understand scientific method and theorems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World

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ashkelon wrote:
Slyth33 wrote:
terrapod wrote:
terrapod wrote:so does that mean that the scientfic theory about the dinos going extinct from lack of sleep, carry much wieght?


It means that a poorly funded educational system has doomed you to a life of ignorance. At least you still have all that bliss.



The scientific community really needs a new word to replace "theory" since nobody seems to grasp the concept.


I've recommended this Sagan book before, and it's an entertaining read, aimed at people who need to understand scientific method and theorems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World

i got to the second sentence then my head hurt
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ashkelon wrote:I've recommended this Sagan book before, and it's an entertaining read, aimed at people who need to understand scientific method and theorems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World


That book should be required reading for all political offices and teaching positions.

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terrapod wrote:so does that mean that the scientfic theory about the dinos going extinct from lack of sleep, carry much wieght?


There is no such scientific theory. A scientific theory must be experimentally and observationally confirmed by many different sources. It must be able to predict future events and explain past events pertaining to the theory. It must be in line with other theories that already exist.

Basically, scientific theories have been proven many times over, while your sleep-deprived dinosaur hypothesis cannot even begin to be proven.

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SporeMasterSlyth33 wrote:
ashkelon wrote:I've recommended this Sagan book before, and it's an entertaining read, aimed at people who need to understand scientific method and theorems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World


That book should be required reading for all political offices and teaching positions.


They'd be getting off lightly compared to living around my dad for 25 years... I can still see the light in his eyes when he'd lean forward, tip his fingers into a tent and say "Is that what you REALLY think?"

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"while your sleep-deprived dinosaur hypothesis cannot even begin to be proven. "

Exactly, it seems terrapod has confused the word "hypothesis" with "Theory" like ever so many "Science-ignorant" people before him.

A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.
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so does that mean that the scientfic theory about the dinos going extinct from lack of sleep, carry much wieght?


Lmao, oh man, you made my day, that must have been the funniest thing I've read on this forum this year, just make this mental picture in your head of dinos being unable to keep their eyes open and slowly collapsing all at once and you'll see what I mean lol.

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Interesting, though.

Once the dinos ran out of food due to the biosphere collapse, they'd be too starved to maintain their large bodies & would thus begin feeling rather drowsy anyways.
It is but a hypothesis, but from what we know, you can't expect to keep fully awake when running low on energy.

But we have nothing to confirm that sleep deprivation had anyting to do with this. All we're doing is hinting at how, maybe, starvation among the dinosaurs led to possible drowsiness. And how can we confirm this?

Though if you get my mental picture, constant searching for food & the decreased temperatures of the earth due ot the large overhanging ash clouds can't have helped their sleep. You can't sleep well when too cold.
Then, this may have further deprived thier energy.

But, it's just another hypothesis. We've yet to confirm, but, it's of interest if you think about it.

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